Bad Traders

Bad Traders

Status: active
Aliases: kudedude
Email: N/A
Reporter: oneCRAZYtrader

Hey have i dealt with you before have i made a deal with you ?I dont even know you why did you post a bad trade report in my page!!!!Thats what i want to know!!!!!!!You better take it off , i dont even know who you are , do you have emails or proof we made a deal!!!!! also is it in our pended page NO thats what i thought , i do have grandia 2 but thats not the way to get it if you want it talk to me ok!so take off that bad trade report before i talk to bill and have you suspended for putting false bad trades into other peoples pages!!!!!

claylesmeister Canada BTRs30-Mar-2001
Status: active
Address: old address: clay lesmeister P.O. box 450 windermere, BC v0B 2L0 Canada.......i don't have his newer address in calgary
Reporter: Y2k

i don't think clay is a real bad trader but obviously we have unfinished business that has been avoided from his end for too long.

here's the story...

Clay and I made a trade last spring involving his game gear games and some accessories in exchange for my oddworld and resident evil: director's cut (psx)

my end of the trade appeared to have been lost in the mail so i replaced it with metal gear solid, tekken 2, and a psx multi-tap. i express-posted this to him to have the deal done and to make up for the postal problems. all was done until....

...a little while later, the original package showed up at his door also, apparently delayed by an error by the post office. i told him to play the games and we'd work something out in the future on the extra stuff he now had.

we had talked from time to time, but in the fall i wrote to request that he just return metal gear solid and tekken 2. he agreed and said that he shipped on september 22nd. a few weeks passed so i e-mailed him to see what was up. he said it must've been lost and i said we should give it a month anyway, in case it was misrouted like my package was. a couple months passed. his e-mail was down again and he was reformatting his pc but said he was going home for the holidays and would get back to me after that. nothing.

i wrote him again in february and was told that he just had to get his metal gear solid back from whoever had it and would get back to me. nothing.

i wrote again on march 11th and i was told that the friend of his that had his metal gear solid was dropping it off and he'd mail it asap.

here, i was told that he had mailed it a few months earlier and now his friend has it. hmmm...

i've heard nothing back from him since so here i am now. luckily, i still have all of the e-mails saved here. this has been a small, nagging issue for too long and the misinformation in his e-mails is disturbing after having gone through them all..

i have e-mails to confirm this all.

this report will come down when the games really do get mailed and arrive...hopefully that will be soon.

btw, the games are all still listed on his available list.....

Jbad_Machine BTRs30-Mar-2001
Status: active
Address: james keller 2723 east 2nd place lubbock, texas 79403
Reporter: Y2k

james and i made a deal at the end of january involving my gran turismo 2, wcw nitro, and some wrestling action figures in exchange for his dC memory card, beavis and butthead tv talkers and $25 USD.

the talkers and memory card arrived in good time, but the $25 was absent from the package. i e-mailed him to see what was up with that and was told he was a little low on cash and he would send it in a couple weeks. this was no problem for me so i shipped out his stuff, which he recieved.

a few weeks passed so i wrote to see what was going on with the cash. i was told he was getting some paypal money and he'd send later that week. cool. not cool...nothing showed for a few more weeks so i wrote once again to see what was happening. no reply. i caught him in chat and he said he got the e-mail and disappeared. i wrote again to find out. still no reply. it's now been several weeks and i have gotten no feedback from him at all in regards to the money so i guess i need to post this.

i'll take this down when the money shows up. here's my address for reference:

scott McDougal
box 4
Giroux, Manitoba
R0A 0N0

some communication would have prevented this report. i tend to be a very patient and understanding trader. it doesn't help that he has so many pending deals made since that involve cash on his part.


today, april 17th, i've decided to edit the ratings i gave him when i expected he would hold up his end and ship the cash. seeing as how he is logging on often again, he is obviously aware of this and has taken no action to correct it. it's too bad since half the deal showed up in great time and he has only lagged poorly on the cash part of it with no explanation or e-mails.

Anarchykil BTRs29-Mar-2001
Status: active
Address: PO Box 516, St. Boni, MN, 55375, USA
Reporter: mestevron

I sent him payment almost 2 months ago and have not received my games. I have sent many emails and have not received any reply at all.

Xeonite Canada BTRs29-Mar-2001
Status: active
Aliases: Xenonite
Email: removed
Address: 10-8716 Walnut Grove Drive, Langley BC, V1M 2K2, Canada
Reporter: CrOnO

probably the biggest liar and scam at UGTZ....i sent to this guy in January..still no package from his till this day, which is March 29, 2001....almost 3 full months now....he said that it got stuck in customs..then he said he sent another one out...yea it all is people :

Fist i complained it didnt arrive after 2 months-

"This is getting unbelievable man. I am tracking it with Canada Post right
now. they told me it got held up at Customs and it should be on it's way. If
it doesn't reach you by Monday I will start harassing them again.
Sorry about all of this. It really sucks."


then i complained again..and here is what i got:

"Hey, listen man. I'm not the fudging post office alright! All I can do is listen to their half assed answers and pass them on to you. That's all I have! What the hell you want me to lie and say some crap about how it is being held up because of a bomb scare and it will be there in a few more days!?
I can't give you any "solid answers" because they haven't given me any. I am an excellent trader and my track record speaks for itself. I understand it sucks to wait but quite frankly you can take your questions about my credibility and shove them up your ass. I'm doing all I can man. Stop being an ass. I have been honest and up front with you on everything this far. if I was trying to rip you off I would have just told you your crap never showed. And I sure as hell would not have continued to keep you informed as to the state of our trade.

I have had packages held up for weeks and once I had my package in customs for a month and a half! It sucked ass but I never started being a fudging jerk and pointing fingers at the person I was trading with. Don't even bother emailing me again with your accusations without any basis of fact. You have no reason to believe I am a scammer trying to "take you" on this swap. I will not tolerate that crap again.

I am working with on this the best I can. You have to understand how hard it is to track a package, across country, without a tracking number. Why don't you start checking with your local postal outlet and see if they have anything in their system with your name on it? It might help me out a little here. Unless of coarse you would rather impede my ability to help you with this and just send me another ignorant ass hole email like the last one. That's really professional and I feel it really helps out this situation. "

Then it went on for that for like 5 emails...finally we reached common ground..and he agreed to send again :

"I'm biting the bullet here and re-sending. It will be out tomorrow or

Let me know as soon as it shows...or when either of them show for that

Soon after that, his friend disguised as a guy who thought he was being ripped off by Xenonite asked me what i thought about him and how our trade was goin.i simply stated that it wasnt going good and that i just wish the trade was over with...and that i was waiting for his second shipment...of course the guy told on me....Xenonite informed me that he would not send me my packages now and that he doesnt care that i didnt get the package..and that he wants nothing to do with me now....well folks.u have the whoel stor..u can email me if you wanna hear anything else..cause im sure i left out some stuff here.all i want is my just sick of these jokers online...