Bad Traders


Bad Traders Reported by Miranda

Abstrakt23 BTRs9-Jan-2008
Status: active
Aliases: Kristine (He's a guy though)
Email: stephhhhhhhhhh@yahoo.com
Address: New Jersey
Reporter: Miranda

This is truly pathetic. He should be ashamed of himself. Abstrakt23 asked in the Secret Santa thread if someone could loan him the 8 weeks sub time bond. At the time I was broke. A couple of days later I had the money. I sent the bond to Todd and sent a PM to Abstrakt23. I explained very clearly when Todd refunded him the time he was to return it to me. I've gone looking for him but get the brush off. He Got His Bond Posted For Him AND STIFFED HIS SECRET SANTA PARTNER TOO

What a sleazy, slimy piece of work. Enclosed below are the Pm's regarding this transaction.


on 10-Nov-2007 at 9:13am mmm40x

Hey there. I sent Cygnus your 8 week Secret Santa bond. Now you need to go to the Secret Santa thread and sign up on his site. The link is in his first post. After you complete your SS transaction Cygnus will return the 8 weeks to you and then you can just send it back to me! Enjoy this years SS. It's always fun!

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on 11-Nov-2007 at 2:20am Abstrakt23

Oh thank you Miranda for being so kind to me from day one, i really appreciate it!

And yes i'll sign up asap

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on 23-Dec-2007 at 1:42am mmm40x

You still need to repay the 8 weeks I lent you. I was nice enough to loan it to you I should not have had to go looking for you. Please return it now.

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on 24-Dec-2007 at 12:24am Abstrakt23

looks like i got to scrape up some subtime

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on 25-Dec-2007 at 9:21am mmm40x

Um, when will that be? I'm running out of sub time and Christmas has wiped out my checking account.

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on 28-Dec-2007 at 4:00am Abstrakt23

well id have to trade for it, i dont have a credit or debit card

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on 28-Dec-2007 at 2:00pm mmm40x

Bill accepts money orders. 5.00 = the 2 months I paid out of my own pocket. Please take care of this.

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on 30-Dec-2007 at 5:37am Abstrakt23

5 bucks no problem give me like a week or two to have it sent out, i go to school and work so i am busy, i appreciate you lending me the subtime, but theres no need to get stressed over 5 dollars.

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January 9, 2008 mmm40x

I still have heard nothing from Kristine. Today CygnusTM made a report that Abstrakt23 stiffed his secret Santa partner and sent them nothing.

This BTR isn't about the 8 weeks/$5.00 It's the principle of the matter.
How low is it to barrow the sub time bond to get into the Secret Santa, never send a gift to your partner and not pay back the person that gave you your bond? This guy is so low he can slither under a snake.This BTR makes me feel dirty. I need to go wash my hands.


Response from Accused "Bad Trader": (9-Jan-2008)
Actually if you read my original post i asked if someone could lend me the subtime, as in give me in.

Maybe you dont understand that i go to school and work and i'm busy, all my trades get done even if they take time. Your the one who's making a huge ordeal over $5

I will be sending you a $5 money order tomorrow.

DarkPaladinSE BTRs21-Feb-2006
Status: active
Email: rjarmstrong100@gmail.com
Address: 25A Winthrop Drive Woodbury, New York 11797
Reporter: Miranda

Wednesday October 4, 2006

Just sent the following message too this loser: Are you ever going to make this right? Be a man and send my 2 lousy bucks back and clean this up. How sad this is?


On January 1st Ryan and I pended a trade for the manual to Vexx. On the 4th he claimed he sent. In the interest of speeding up the trade I mailed out 2.00 cash the following day.
I have never received and he has never acknowledged receipt. I have sent 4 trade messages. I asked him 2 times to send a tracking number. I asked him to acknowledge receipt of my cash. The last two trade messages I told him I would contact the mods. and file a BTR if I got nowhere. Not one of my messages has received a response. That is why I filed. His lack of response equates with an admission of guilt. If this guy is willing to screw you over for two bucks he's a sad, sad case. If he'll steal two lousy bucks he'll steal anything. It's not the money. It's the principal. As well as letting people know how low he is.

UPDATE: Exactly one hour and 12 minutes after this BTR was posted Ryan logged onto the site. He has not contacted me. He knows it here. He just doesn't care. Stay away from this guy.


*UPDATE 12/28/2006* Coping Trade info into BTR so that I may cancel the trade and get it off my page.

Trade/Offer History Log:
When Who Message
on 4-Oct-2006 at 11:03pm mmm40x Are you ever going to make this right? Be a man and send my 2 lousy bucks back and clean this up. How sad this is.
on 17-Feb-2006 at 1:55pm mmm40x Last chance before I involve Bill. How said to steal 2.00 bucks. No one will ever trade with someone willing to steal 2.00 lousy bucks
on 25-Jan-2006 at 5:58am mmm40x Well one BTR and you are about to have another one filed. Pretty sad you'll rip someone off for 2.00 bucks. You know you got the money. Be a man and take care of your responsibilities! I have already emailed you asking you to post the confirmation number you agreed to use when shipping. You ignored the message. Last chance before I too, file a BTR.
Are you really going to ruin your chances of being able to trade here over a manual and two bucks?
on 12-Jan-2006 at 11:44am mmm40x Just wondering if you can post the tracking number. This seems to be taking long-even for Media Mail. Have you received my end? I sent it first class. I should have arrived days ago.
on 5-Jan-2006 at 9:41am mmm40x I sent on 5-Jan-2006.
Hi. In the interest of speeding up the trade I just sent via USPS. I didn't know how you wanted to be paid. PayPAl would have taken about .31 - .32 then postage would have left you with very little left. I just sent cash.
Thanks again,


on 4-Jan-2006 at 5:15pm DarkPaladinSE I sent on 4-Jan-2006.

on 1-Jan-2006 at 2:03pm mmm40x When I receive, how would you like payment?
on 1-Jan-2006 at 2:01pm DarkPaladinSE DarkPaladinSE's address:

Ryan Armstrong
25A Winthrop Drive
Woodbury NY, 11797
on 1-Jan-2006 at 2:01pm mmm40x mmm40's address:


on 1-Jan-2006 at 2:00pm mmm40x Pending trade created.
Offer Accepted

on 1-Jan-2006 at 1:37pm DarkPaladinSE Offer Accepted
Sure! Thanks for informing. Learn something new everyday XD

on 1-Jan-2006 at 1:29pm mmm40x Offer Created
3 seems a little steep. 2.00 is the highest I have seen them go for here at the site. I would do 2.00.