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SweetyPie
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| | #1 posted July 8, 2005 at 6:16am (EST) |
As it stands, I'm currently a student at the University of Hawaii heading towards a bachelors in business management. I'm working full time for the summer and was just proposed a job working for a private airlines company back on my old island home on Kauai, HI.
The job pays $22/hour, with a full time scheduling of 40 hour weeks. However, I'd have to abandon whatever education I've acquired so far but I can probably pick up on it as long as the credits I earned don't expire or anything. The job requires CDL licensing which the company will train me for and for the job itself, it's basically just to refuel the jets and to do all the paperwork in that area of the jobsite.
I told myself that I would leave Kauai and not go back until I was completely through school but since this came up, I don't know what to do. It's really promising so I'm tempted. Grrrrrwar!
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | mackey
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| | #41 posted July 9, 2005 at 3:16pm (EST) |
Fudgein' A. I had the feeling you felt the same way about life.
 | Richie
  
 
| | #42 posted July 9, 2005 at 3:18pm (EST) |
The average household income is $25,000.00
If you'll be making nearly twice that, you got a good portion of
the population beat.
AKA: Alfred Saint Vincent and the Grenadines | j_factor
 
| | #43 posted July 9, 2005 at 3:49pm (EST) |
$22/hr is certainly good enough to live off. But I think the real question is, does this job sound okay to you? Are the duties involved things that you think you'll hate?
I say, if the job sounds like something you won't mind doing, then go for it. If it sounds like something you're dread every day, stay in school.
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<Guru> Yeah, but it's funny
<j_factor> So is your face.
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| | #44 posted July 9, 2005 at 7:05pm (EST) |
when do you have to decide by?
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| | #45 posted July 9, 2005 at 10:24pm (EST) |
school is forever...jobs are not...if you dont take it, someone else will, ya know
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| SweetyPie
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| | #46 posted July 9, 2005 at 11:02pm (EST) |
I loved doing physical type of work at my other job I had a couple of years ago. I'm sure the duties involved with this one will be different but laborous just the same. I'm almost certain that I'd be happy with the work involved with this job. The will to actually wake up and want to go to work has always been a factor I considered when applying for jobs throughout my life.
In Hawaii, it seems like people live a lifestyle that many other states don't know about (I can't say all because I haven't been to every state in the nation to pass a complete bias). A little saying that people go by here, which states: "live aloha," is one of the reasons I really enjoy living in Hawaii compared to any other location I've been in. It's like people aren't competing with their neighbor for who owns the bigger boat or whose job fetches more income. Friends pool their money together and get a bigger or better quality boat. Other examples of this would be morning traffic. Normally in the bigger cities I've been in, people are out there for themselves and nobody else. Here in Hawaii, people are always letting you merge into the lane they're in and you don't often see instances where a person's sitting in their car at a standstill for half an hour like so many cities I've been in around the U.S. It's because the person knows that they'll receive the same chance later when someone allows them to merge into traffic in front of them. It's hard for me to explain this behavior in general with small examples like I've given. You've got to live here for a year or two to experience it.
Yeah... I kind of blew off on another tangent there. Hehe.
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | goldbera
 
| | #47 posted July 9, 2005 at 11:27pm (EST) |
I think its good that you are thinking this through but there is one other issue to consider. At your age, even more important than $ is keeping your options open. If you drop the school and work, you are closing a large number of doors. Get your degree (just power through) and then go work for the airline for a year - you will still have your full range of possibilities afterwords. I cant tell you how important the options that a college education provides are... its difficult to quantify, but frankly there is almost no chance that you wont be better off in the long run. | SweetyPie
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| | #48 posted July 9, 2005 at 11:44pm (EST) |
Okay, well I got a question for everyone. How many of you have earned at least a bachelors degree? If you have, how much do you make a year with it?
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | Chad
| | #49 posted July 9, 2005 at 11:54pm (EST) |
i earned a bachelors degree, my salary is $60,000, this year from my job i will probably be taking home 80k before tax because of crazy overtime. | lordkaosu
| #50 posted July 10, 2005 at 12:15am (EST)
edited July 10, 2005 at 12:31am (EST) |
I don't have a degree but I'm working on it. I make $10/hr($20,800 before taxes) at my current job(which isn't too bad for no degree in this town). But I'm bored at my job, along with every other job I've had, so I'm going to school again in hopes I'll find something I enjoy more.
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| | #51 posted July 10, 2005 at 12:28am (EST) |
I earned a bachelors degree, I make about $12,000 a year. | lordkaosu
| | #52 posted July 10, 2005 at 12:32am (EST) |
bill wrote:
> I earned a bachelors degree, I make about $12,000 a year.
But you sleep well at night knowing how you improve the lives of so many 
Click to set up Live games with fellow GTZers! | Z
| | #53 posted July 10, 2005 at 12:57am (EST) |
and your wife drives a jeep.... that's something money can't buy.
Graham cared. | SweetyPie
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| | #54 posted July 10, 2005 at 1:24am (EST) |
I'm really digging all the feedback this thread is producing. It caused me to extend my subtime a bit, today being the day I was expecting to leave on my vacation of unknown length. I'd really like to hear more from those that have posted their opinions on the matter and what they honestly make a year at this current point in time.
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | Chad
| | #55 posted July 10, 2005 at 5:53am (EST) |
one other thing, did they at all discuss the benefits with you? At my job, I can put up to 20% into my 401k (which I do 17% because based off of my "base salary" that is how much I felt I needed) and they match 8% of it at 75% (meaning I an putting in essentially 23% with 6% being for free), which they take off of my gross income, not my schedule gross income (so for me it is roughly $353 a week as opposed to $265, although) . In addition to that, I get roughly $10k worth of medical/dental/insurance (right now I believe I am insured at $250,000, maybe it is $500,000 for free) and I pay $0/year for my medical/dental (I am under a "Prefered Provider" plan, similar to an HMO but with a few more local options but not as many long distance options, if I went with whatever doctor I damn well pleased it would be like $13.XX a month).
Anyways, getting back, if I put in $13,600(actually 17% match at my estimated $80,000) with a annual return (not amazing, but respectable) I will retire at 62 with $10 million dollars in my 401k. Quite a tidy sum, really (in addition to the killing I have bene making in the stock market) assuming that I annualy make 5% raises (basically stay in the same position and never get a promotion, although within 8 years I intend to be a manager at my wonderful company, which as a level 1 right now makes ~$110,000 salary and salary +$6.50 an hour for OT so that number could very well be significantly up).
Anyways, I have spent like 20 minutes writing this post because I have been drinking and spell checking this as I go. Just som food for though. | Chad
| | #56 posted July 10, 2005 at 5:55am (EST) |
err, in that first paragraphy I may need to clarify that. If I put in 8% or more of my own money, they will put in 6% (i.e. if I earn 100,000 a year and put in 8%, that is $8000 and they put in 6% that is $6000 from them or $14,000 total, but if I put in the full 20%, that would be $20,000 from me and still $6000 from them, for a total of $26,000). | bill
| #57 posted July 10, 2005 at 6:41am (EST)
edited July 10, 2005 at 6:56am (EST) |
> I will retire at 62 with $10 million dollars in my 401k.
But, Chad, you're going to die from liver failure long before age 62.
p.s. The government caps 401K contributions.. I used to be $15K per year, I think... maybe it's $20K now?
What is your job, by the way? It sounds pretty well-paid. I feel like I should change my career choice, right now. | bill
| | #58 posted July 10, 2005 at 6:42am (EST) |
http://mutualfunds.about.com/od/retirement/a/2005_...
2005 401k Contribution Limit: $14,000
2005 Catch-Up Contribution Limit (only for those over 50 years old): $4,000
http://mutualfunds.about.com/od/retirement/a/2006_...
"2006 401k Contribution Limit: $15,000
2006 Catch-Up Contribution Limit (only for those over 50 years old): $5,000 "
| Z
| | #59 posted July 10, 2005 at 6:46am (EST) |
Chad is a professional butt-hole.
Graham cared. | vDub
 
| | #60 posted July 10, 2005 at 8:24am (EST) |
I say go for the job. If you don't like the school you're going to, at least with the money you make you can afford to go to one you do like. 
His destiny has been fulfilled...
The NEW NWA World Champion....Raven! | Osiris
| | #61 posted July 10, 2005 at 9:19am (EST) |
McQueery-sounds like you really want to take this job at this point in your life, think of it as an education sabbatical. One door closes, another door opens.
If you really want/need more formal education later, you can get it. Just leave the university in good standing. I really wouldn't be concerned that working now will screw you forever. Lots of second chances in life. Getting solid work experience now certainly will help. After 13 straight years of formal schooling, working will
add a dimension to your experience that will help if you return to school later.
I take it working on one island, schooling on another is too difficult to remain as a part time student while working? Does the company have any educational benefit you can take advantage of?
Chad-you are not an exempt employee at that level? OT for managers at Boeing?
Usually 60 plus hour weeks are common at that salary level. | Richie
| | #62 posted July 10, 2005 at 12:46pm (EST) |
Kanes_Son wrote:
> Chad is a professional butt-hole.
>
AKA: Alfred Saint Vincent and the Grenadines | Chad
| | #63 posted July 10, 2005 at 1:44pm (EST) |
bill wrote:
> |> I will retire at 62 with $10 million dollars in my 401k.
>
> But, Chad, you're going to die from liver failure long before age
> 62.
>
> p.s. The government caps 401K contributions.. I used to be $15K per
> year, I think... maybe it's $20K now?
>
> What is your job, by the way? It sounds pretty well-paid. I feel
> like I should change my career choice, right now.
That could have been the other reason why I did 17% (brings it to $13,600 on my projection of $80,000) because that is all the system let me do.
I am Supplier Management and Procurement (the meat and potatoes of the job is negotiating contracts (the current one I am on is $6.2 million and it is one of the smallest, they like to start you out small first) with cost, schedule, and functionality being the key focuses. The everyday work is gathering information for metrics, being the intermediary for the supplier and our engineers.
When I looked on vault.com I was expecting like $50k starting, but for whatever reason this was teh first offer they gave me($60k) and I accepted.
As for the managers getting over time, there are levels 1,2,3, J,K,L and then senior. Levels 1-3 I believe get time + $6.50 for over time. I know once you are level J there is no OT (but also at J you are making about $220,000 a year.... so thats alright then I suppose). | Chad
| | #64 posted July 10, 2005 at 1:45pm (EST) |
Oh, and I am technically exempt (by definition) but for whatever reason level 1 is generally paid on a non-exempt salary (most likely to get them used to the fact of working over time without it being painful). | rayzor6
 
| | #65 posted July 10, 2005 at 2:56pm (EST) |
mackey wrote:
> rayzor6 wrote:
>> Stay in school...the job offer isn't that great and what if after
>> 6 months you hate it? Or 2 years? College degrees USED TO mean guaranteed
>> good job. Now, it is a pre-requisite to almost any job you apply
>> for and the person WITHOUT it gets eliminated, sometimes without even
>> an interview.
>>
>> Get school out of the way and be done with it. It may not be fun,
>> but once it is done, you got it. Jobs like that will come up again,
>> only at that time, you will have a degree and if you quit, no big
>> deal.
>>
>> Also, you needs will 'change'. Don't count on not needing alot of
>> money like you do when you are in college. If you take this job,
>> you will regret it.
>>
>>
>
> Fudge that man, all sorts of people make a living off of less than $10.00/hr.
>
>
> People only need so much money because they can't get over being money gobbling
> consumerist whores. Way too much emphasis is placed on the importance of television,
> automobiles, and debt in general.
>
> It's fudging America, everyone's in debt. When the time comes, he can rack up
> a good $20,000 in credit card debt, not answer their phone calls for the better
> part of a decade, and they'll settle for 5 cents on the dollar.
>
> Jobs this, jobs that. Even drones can fly away.
>
>
I think in 12 years, when you are my age, your perspective might change...ALOT. At 19 I was still in the military, and not making a whole lot of money (but I also had no bills either) but I was still incredibly happy...just like you are now. I think every needs to be young and have a great time.
As far as that job, it is really unimportant. If you want, you will find a job that pays close to that or even more than...hell, the same job might be available again sometime in the future.
The point is, once you leave school, you most likely will not go back. That whole fudge the job, fudge making money thing is kind of backwards. I know what it is like not making money and I know what it is like by making quite a bit. I like making money quite a bit. When I didn't make any, I was happy NOT making any. But I'll tell you, I wouldn't EVER want to go back to not having enough money for both things I want and things I need. I remember needing 500 bucks to fix my car and that wiped me out...now, it is just sad to lose 500 bucks for something when you could have saved it or blew it on something fun.
Making money isn't about being a 'consumer whore' or just about having nice crap. It is about having control over your own life. My best friend works at a job where he was making great money at 19...not so great anymore. He has a family to support and does so paycheck to paycheck. His youngest son got sick and needed serious medical attention. For his condition, it is well known that the Cleveland Clinic here in Ohio is the best facility. His insurance (which is very crapty) wouldn't cover that, and with his current finances, they wouldn't even take his son there because of lack of adequate insurance. I cosigned a loan for him to get his son the medical help he needed. My friend had virtually no options at that point. I guarantee that loan wouldn't have been available if I kept the same job I had when I got out the Army (also good money at the time). The reason I have the job I have now is because of college.
Bottom line, denying yourself options is a losing proposition. Crap, you are debating whether to stop going to college now! What is going to happen if you have a girlfriend/wife, kids, mortgage, car payment, other financial obligations? All of a sudden, you will want to go back then?!?! Look at it from the other perspective: you said you don't need alot of money. You can work a regular job part-time and get your degree and THEN come back to that job if you really want it. Ask yourself if you are just looking for what you think is the easiest solution. I am not saying you are...only you can come up with that.
Lastly, what if that job fires you or it is such hell that you can't work it anymore...what then? If you can find another job that pays close to that, why not find it after college. If that rate of pay is indeed rare, why put all your eggs in one basket? If that job doesn't work out...what is plan B?
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| | #66 posted July 10, 2005 at 3:16pm (EST) |
Plan B
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| | #67 posted July 10, 2005 at 3:35pm (EST) |
rayzor6 - What is the ultimate outcome in your mind once you have your degree? Many jobs require degrees but at the same time, there are so many other positions out there that can be had with a CDL that pay pretty well. I'd have full medical/dental insurance with the company but I'm not sure what their coverage is limited at.
The job requires four ten-hour days out of the week and three days off. Scheduling is always different every week but it follows that same basic guideline. Right now, I'm working six days a week and don't have much time for anything fun on the side.
There's all kinds of stuff to think about. The average household income compared to this job's pay is enough to persuade me that I'd make it just fine working there. I'd be back in the city I grew up in. The beach is in biking distance from where I'd be living. The employees at the job are all really cool. There just seems like there's too much good coming out of the situation to let it pass by. I'm pretty sure that once I start working there, I can do so on a part-time basis and do the community college thing on the side.
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | Osiris
| | #68 posted July 10, 2005 at 3:55pm (EST) |
OK, you've talked me into it...if you turn it down, let me know!
Paradise calls... | rayzor6
| | #69 posted July 10, 2005 at 4:21pm (EST) |
McQueery wrote:
> rayzor6 - What is the ultimate outcome in your mind once you have your degree?
>
You will have options. This SINGLE job looks great from what you are telling me. But what if they relocate, close down, downsize, don't like you, etc. You will be back the job market, and obviously if you worked at that job for a few years, you aren't going to want less money. You will be accustomed to what your current pay is. You will be back in the job market, looking for a job. The typical ones with better pay will ask for a college degree. Are there jobs that don't require one? Yes. Are there alot more that do? Yes. We are just looking at playing the odds at this point. If a single position nets 10 resumes, including yours, they will be looking for ways to "narrow the field". The first...the very first thing...is college education. Even if the position doesn't require a degree, you will be quickly ousted if your competition has a degree. It doesn't even have to be a relative degree. I have my BA in Communications. I am in sales. They were looking for 4 year degrees and I even beat out someone with more experience than me.
You sound like you are trying to talk yourself into this...if you are, nothing is going to stop you. However, these are very likely to happen:
1. You won't work there forever. Everyone looks at a new job as something that will last for the rest of their lives. It doesn't happen too often, especially in today's marketplace. I am sure those that work/invested in Enron thought it would last forever too.
2. You will not be likely to go back to school, especially when the little college you have taken
is no longer counted (you will basically be starting over)
3. Your life will change by the time you hit 30. As your life changes your needs/wants will also change. I am telling you this from someone who is 31 and lived through your age group. I used to also roll my eyes when someone that is only 12 years older than me told me that crap. Guess what? It is true. And the quicker you listen to the free advice, the better off you will be.
> There's all kinds of stuff to think about. The average household income compared
> to this job's pay is enough to persuade me that I'd make it just fine working
> there. I'd be back in the city I grew up in. The beach is in biking distance
> from where I'd be living. The employees at the job are all really cool. There
> just seems like there's too much good coming out of the situation to let it
> pass by. I'm pretty sure that once I start working there, I can do so on a
> part-time basis and do the community college thing on the side.
If you will honestly do both and not quit....you have nothing to lose. There is nothing wrong with taking college at a slower pace. Actually, it is better that way so you don't have to memorize/regurgitate the info you learn. BUT! You must never take a semester off...keep going. If you are ready for that kind of commitment, you can do both. Crap, you can work full time and take a couple of classes per semester. It is difficult, but you won't ever have any regrets about this decision...and that is worth it.
Xbox Gamertag: rayzor6 Games: Halo 2, RB 6:3, RB 6:3 BA, Star Wars Battlefront, Mortal Kombat Deception, , Links 2004, Counterstrike, KUF:TC, GR, GR:IT, GR 2, Burnout 3, Splinter Cell: CT & PT, P Dust, Forza, UC, W.C. Poker, Rallisport2 | SweetyPie
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| #70 posted July 10, 2005 at 5:17pm (EST)
edited July 10, 2005 at 6:20pm (EST) |
I already have initially talked myself into taking the job before I created this thread. The reason I made this topic was to have someone either:
A. Throw a possible outcome that taking the job could create that I had overlooked.
B. Have someone talk me out of my choice to oust school for now.
That last post really did start to drill into me which is what I was looking for.
I know that college is important but while I was there, I didn't feel that it was right for me. It just wasn't working with what I expected it to be. Maybe I just needed to see a guidance counselor or something whose job it is to provide that kind of service.
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | Felty
BTRs
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| | #71 posted July 10, 2005 at 5:46pm (EST) |
I'm glad to hear you chose something that you want to do, instead of staying in school which you said was not right for you. I hope everything works out and good luck on the job.
Visit my forum, it's wild. | SweetyPie
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| | #72 posted July 10, 2005 at 6:19pm (EST) |
Thanks James.
-The Cooler John
John - "I screwed up." | Osiris
| | #73 posted July 10, 2005 at 7:02pm (EST) |
Oh pooh, so the job on the Garden Island is taken? Rats! | ResqTek
| #74 posted July 10, 2005 at 7:21pm (EST)
edited July 10, 2005 at 7:22pm (EST) |
>The other jobs you mentioned (driver, fireman) were
> blue collar too. But, the degree you're working toward is white collar.
> What do you see yourself as, blue or white?
I am a firefighter and love my job but I dont consider it Blue Collar. Its avery tough job and requires a lot of skill. So I dont think blue collar is the term that should be used to represent a firefighters job. We take pride in what we do. A lot of people would take offense to that. Thats just my opinion.
 | j_factor
| | #75 posted July 10, 2005 at 8:44pm (EST) |
ResqTek wrote:
> |>The other jobs you mentioned (driver, fireman) were
>> blue collar too. But, the degree you're working toward is white
> collar.
>> What do you see yourself as, blue or white?
>
> I am a firefighter and love my job but I dont consider it Blue Collar.
> Its avery tough job and requires a lot of skill.
Blue collar means "easy and unskilled" to you? Blue collar to me just means jobs that are done in "work clothes" (as opposed to casual or business attire) and involve physical labor. Which firefighting does.
<j_factor> one-liners in a videogame are so 1995.
<Guru> Yeah, but it's funny
<j_factor> So is your face.
pwned? | Chad
| | #76 posted July 10, 2005 at 9:25pm (EST) |
blue = a color that hides dirt and oil well. I dont think anyone was insinuating that on average blue collar jobs are easier than white collar or vice versa. | Osiris
| | #77 posted July 10, 2005 at 10:49pm (EST) |
I just discovered that the producer of "Legally Blonde" graduated from NYU Law School in 1982, interesting career path. Wondered if he always wanted to be a big time movie producer? | mackey
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| | #78 posted July 11, 2005 at 12:12am (EST) |
rayzor6 wrote:
> mackey wrote:
>> rayzor6 wrote:
> |>> Stay in school...the job offer isn't that great and what if after
> |>> 6 months you hate it? Or 2 years? College degrees USED TO mean
> guaranteed
> |>> good job. Now, it is a pre-requisite to almost any job you apply
> |>> for and the person WITHOUT it gets eliminated, sometimes without
> even
> |>> an interview.
> |>>
> |>> Get school out of the way and be done with it. It may not be
> fun,
> |>> but once it is done, you got it. Jobs like that will come up
> again,
> |>> only at that time, you will have a degree and if you quit, no
> big
> |>> deal.
> |>>
> |>> Also, you needs will 'change'. Don't count on not needing alot
> of
> |>> money like you do when you are in college. If you take this job,
> |>> you will regret it.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Fudge that man, all sorts of people make a living off of less than
> $10.00/hr.
>>
>>
>> People only need so much money because they can't get over being
> money gobbling
>> consumerist whores. Way too much emphasis is placed on the importance
> of television,
>> automobiles, and debt in general.
>>
>> It's fudging America, everyone's in debt. When the time comes,
> he can rack up
>> a good $20,000 in credit card debt, not answer their phone calls
> for the better
>> part of a decade, and they'll settle for 5 cents on the dollar.
>
>>
>> Jobs this, jobs that. Even drones can fly away.
>>
>>
>
> I think in 12 years, when you are my age, your perspective might change...ALOT.
> At 19 I was still in the military, and not making a whole lot of
> money (but I also had no bills either) but I was still incredibly
> happy...just like you are now. I think every needs to be young and
> have a great time.
>
> As far as that job, it is really unimportant. If you want, you will
> find a job that pays close to that or even more than...hell, the same
> job might be available again sometime in the future.
>
> The point is, once you leave school, you most likely will not go back.
> That whole fudge the job, fudge making money thing is kind of backwards.
> I know what it is like not making money and I know what it is like
> by making quite a bit. I like making money quite a bit. When I didn't
> make any, I was happy NOT making any. But I'll tell you, I wouldn't
> EVER want to go back to not having enough money for both things I
> want and things I need. I remember needing 500 bucks to fix my car
> and that wiped me out...now, it is just sad to lose 500 bucks for
> something when you could have saved it or blew it on something fun.
>
> Making money isn't about being a 'consumer whore' or just about having
> nice crap. It is about having control over your own life. My best
> friend works at a job where he was making great money at 19...not
> so great anymore. He has a family to support and does so paycheck
> to paycheck. His youngest son got sick and needed serious medical
> attention. For his condition, it is well known that the Cleveland
> Clinic here in Ohio is the best facility. His insurance (which is
> very crapty) wouldn't cover that, and with his current finances, they
> wouldn't even take his son there because of lack of adequate insurance.
> I cosigned a loan for him to get his son the medical help he needed.
> My friend had virtually no options at that point. I guarantee that
> loan wouldn't have been available if I kept the same job I had when
> I got out the Army (also good money at the time). The reason I have
> the job I have now is because of college.
>
> Bottom line, denying yourself options is a losing proposition. Crap,
> you are debating whether to stop going to college now! What is going
> to happen if you have a girlfriend/wife, kids, mortgage, car payment,
> other financial obligations? All of a sudden, you will want to go
> back then?!?! Look at it from the other perspective: you said you
> don't need alot of money. You can work a regular job part-time and
> get your degree and THEN come back to that job if you really want
> it. Ask yourself if you are just looking for what you think is the
> easiest solution. I am not saying you are...only you can come up
> with that.
>
> Lastly, what if that job fires you or it is such hell that you can't
> work it anymore...what then? If you can find another job that pays
> close to that, why not find it after college. If that rate of pay
> is indeed rare, why put all your eggs in one basket? If that job
> doesn't work out...what is plan B?
>
>
>
I feel like reading this and responding to it, I just don't have the time tonight. Will read+post tomorrow. I like life discussions, and I don't think that my age makes me unwise, I think that it's probably that the people like me aren't on the internet using GameTZ. They're out living life.
| bill
| | #79 posted July 11, 2005 at 9:03am (EST) |
white collar = desk job
blue collar = hands on
Both can be tough or easy, depending on the job. Both require intelligence to do well.
Unfortunately, I think there's an implication of class to each. But, I think that's often fairly irrelevant these days. | nihon
| | #80 posted July 11, 2005 at 11:13am (EST) |
Especially since many blue collar jobs pay more than many white collar jobs.
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