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CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

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#1 posted October 23, 2007 at 3:45pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 10:56am (EST)  

 

Yes, I have returned from the dead. It's time for the... GameTZ Secret Santa

Once again, we will be using a subtime "bond" to encourage people to follow through on sending. If someone gets stiffed on a gift, at least they will get something. Any subscriber without a BTR is eligible to sign up. If you don't have at least a Bronze Star , you will have to put up double the bond. Everyone will signup in one of three pools: United States, Canada, and Anywhere. Signups for the US and Canada pools are limited to users in that country, respectively. Everyone else must signup in the Anywhere pool. Residents of the US and Canada may signup in the Anywhere pool if international shipping is not a problem. Everyone will be assigned a partner from their own pool.

Everyone must put up 8 weeks subtime. (16 weeks if less than Bronze Star ) If you don't have that much, someone else can put it up for you, but the bond will be returned to you. It is up to you to repay your benefactor. You will get one week (two weeks if less than Bronze Star ) back when you provide a valid tracking number that proves you've sent, and you will get the rest back when your partner receives. Signups are open now and will continue until November 29. Partners will then be assigned and mailed out. There will be weekly reminder e-mails sent to those whose partners have not received. Items must be received by December 25. At that time, anyone who hasn't received will receive one-quarter of his/her Santa's subtime bond. If a gift still isn't received after one week (January 1) another quarter will be awarded. If yet another week passes (January 8) the remaining half will be sent. Sending and receiving will be tracked through the signup site. It is very important that you update the site as soon as you send and receive so the subtime bond can be handled appropriately.

The target gift value is $10-20 US. Gifts MUST be worth at least $10 US not including shipping. Every effort should be made to send a complete item. If you are sending something used, it should be complete and in at least "very good" condition. This is not a way to unload your unwanted crap.

Tips:
 * check * Look at your partner's wants and check his/her lists and posts. Put the same effort into selecting a gift for your partner that you would want someone else to put into yours.
 * check * If your partner has inadequate "wants", don't just give up and stiff him/her. Just get a gift card to Walmart or something like that.
 * check * Make sure you provide adequate "wants" for your Santa. There should be at least 4-5 things on your list that fit in the target range.
 * check * When you get assigned a partner, go out right away, get something and send it. Immediately. Especially, if you have to send international.
 * check * If, before signing up, you already have something picked out to send to your partner, don't bother signing up. You just don't get it.

WARNING
People suck. Despite our best efforts, I guarantee there will be people who will get stiffed. If you don't intend to follow through on your commitment here, please do not sign up.

I'm sure the moderators will keep a close eye on this thread. Please keep discussion here about the SS, so things get don't out of hand like in the past.

Signup at http://gtzss.cygnustm.com and send your subtime bond to me. Just posting here will not get you in. Please use your GameTZ username when you signup. This makes it easier for your Santa to find your list. None of the accounts from the previous SS's are there. Everyone will have to re-register.

When you get your gift, post here and log in to http://gtzss.cygnustm.com and indicate that you have received.

This graphic will track who has received:
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HAMMER
Triple Gold Good Trader

#721 posted December 26, 2007 at 11:40pm (EST)  

You are alright Wormer, just think before you type. And before you need serious help I think Jeffro needs a full psychiatric evaluation. Don't worry buddy.

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vDub
GameTZ Subscriber 1000 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Gold Global Trader (12) Has Written 2 Reviews

#722 posted December 26, 2007 at 11:43pm (EST)  

I have a real problem doing that. I always say/type before I think. What I said was totally unnecessary and uncalled for. I am thankful for what I got and sending the food was pretty cool, although some of the stuff I did get I don't really like and I've given them to someone who'll enjoy them more.

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Eggplant_Wizard
350 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader (3)

#723 posted December 26, 2007 at 11:57pm (EST)  

vDub wrote:
> I am thankful for what I got and
> sending the food was pretty cool, although some of
> the stuff I did get I don't really like and I've given
> them to someone who'll enjoy them more.

To who? A forensics lab?
vDub
GameTZ Subscriber 1000 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Gold Global Trader (12) Has Written 2 Reviews

#724 posted December 27, 2007 at 12:00am (EST)  

you got me...I sent them to have tests done to make sure they really weren't poisoned.  * winking raspberry *

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Jeffro
"YEAH!!!!!" GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (4) Has Written 3 Reviews

#725 posted December 27, 2007 at 12:10am (EST)  

HAMMER wrote:
> You are alright Wormer, just think before you type.
> And before you need serious help I think Jeffro needs
> a full psychiatric evaluation. Don't worry buddy.
>
>
They would lock me up for sure, I am so afraid of psych fudgeers, I would'nt see the light of day ever again if I got evaluated. bahahahahahahaha!




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CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

(frozen)
#726 posted December 27, 2007 at 1:01am (EST)  

millenium_dare wrote:
> So Todd, when will the Secret Santa's be revealed?

Every year this gets asked. I don't reveal the assignments unless someone turns out to be a deadbeat. It's too early for that.

Also, I've processed the first round of bond forfeitures, with a couple of exceptions due to extenuating circumstances.
Mitsuru
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (3)

#727 posted December 27, 2007 at 2:12pm (EST)  

I had to resend mine gift to someone. They also made it rather difficult to find them a present, because they listed everything they HAD, not everything they wanted.


Anyway.

I have delivery confirmation for it.

lastly, I got a dreamcast and some games from my Secret Santa. I was shocked to say the least, thank you very much!
guncrazy90
Ginja GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

#728 posted December 27, 2007 at 4:07pm (EST)  

yeah some took it a little too far *looks at Jeffro*
glad vDub was nice enough to apologize
Jeffro
"YEAH!!!!!" GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (4) Has Written 3 Reviews

#729 posted December 27, 2007 at 4:16pm (EST)  

My hate for vDub goes back a long ways, any excuse I find I rag on him.




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John
cLOLverfield GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator
350 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (12)

#730 posted December 27, 2007 at 7:35pm (EST)  

CygnusTM wrote:
> Also, I've processed the first round of bond forfeitures, with a couple
> of exceptions due to extenuating circumstances.

Did you make sure that those that hadn't received yet actually didn't receive by Christmas (as opposed to just not being around)? I think I would have waited a couple of days after Christmas to confirm that it actually didn't get there before doing forfeitures.

But, no biggie either way.  * yes *

- John...

"Been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding..."
- Harvey Danger, Flagpole Sitta
Steelpen2
GameTZ Subscriber Bronze Good Trader

#731 posted December 28, 2007 at 12:38pm (EST)  

I opened my gift on Christmas day and received the 2-disc special edition DVD of "The Departed." Thanks Santa!
CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

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#732 posted December 30, 2007 at 11:11am (EST)  

John wrote:
> CygnusTM wrote:
> Did you make sure that those that hadn't received yet actually
> didn't receive by Christmas (as opposed to just not being
> around)? I think I would have waited a couple of days after
> Christmas to confirm that it actually didn't get there before
> doing forfeitures.
>
> But, no biggie either way.  * yes *

That hasn't been a problem in the past. I hope people are honest enough to return the subtime if they received on time.
CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

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#733 posted January 2, 2008 at 9:51am (EST)  

I've processed another round of forfeitures. They have one more week to deliver, then I reveal the deadbeats.
DummyP
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Global Trader (9)

#734 posted January 2, 2008 at 10:32am (EST)  

Then we eat their babies?

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dragonwarriorfan
Gold Good Trader Global Trader (3)

#735 posted January 2, 2008 at 4:27pm (EST)
edited January 2, 2008 at 4:28pm (EST)  

Stupid deadbeats ruining Christmas. *shakes fist like Homer*

lol



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CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

(frozen)
#736 posted January 9, 2008 at 10:58am (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 11:01am (EST)  

And the deadbeats are...

Abstrakt23 and tbluhp

Abstrakt23 is still active, but I bet this is the last we ever hear of tbluhp.
sinnie
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (5)

#737 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:03am (EST)  

Shame..... SHAME!!!!

s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net
dragonwarriorfan
Gold Good Trader Global Trader (3)

#738 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:13am (EST)  

***adds personal notes



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Helen
GameTZ Subscriber Bronze Good Trader
Gold Global Trader (7)

#739 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:20am (EST)  

I had tbluhp  * wry smile * Should've sent him coal.
sinnie
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (5)

#740 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:54am (EST)  

Is there a way to ban these people next time? Like not by username but address or something? Or is there usually not a problem with them trying to do the same the following year.

s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net
CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

(frozen)
#741 posted January 9, 2008 at 12:34pm (EST)  

Like I said, usually, being an SS deadbeat is someone's way of saying goodbye to GameTZ. They don't send a gift and are never heard from again. It will be interesting to see how Abstrakt23 reacts since he still seems to be trading. If he insists on sticking around, he will not be allowed in any future SS.
Helen
GameTZ Subscriber Bronze Good Trader
Gold Global Trader (7)

#742 posted January 9, 2008 at 12:37pm (EST)  

The chart says that 32 gifts were sent... which person sent and when? Is it possible it could still be in transit, or ran into some address issues or such?
sinnie
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (5)

#743 posted January 9, 2008 at 12:40pm (EST)  

Abstrakt23 doesn't surprise me. He/she left me hanging in a trade that I eventually can canceled.

s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net
CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

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#744 posted January 9, 2008 at 2:23pm (EST)  

Helen wrote:
> The chart says that 32 gifts were sent... which person sent
> and when? Is it possible it could still be in transit,
> or ran into some address issues or such?

Just because someone claims to have sent, doesn't mean he did. In this case, there is no tracking to back up the claim.
CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

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#745 posted January 9, 2008 at 2:23pm (EST)  

Admiral wrote:
> We can put BTR's on them for this right? They are CERTAINLY
> not "good traders" by acting this way...

I think a mod should weigh in on that.
sinnie
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (5)

#746 posted January 9, 2008 at 2:27pm (EST)  

I agree that BTR's should be in order. Since they did get something and stiffed their partner.

s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net
jshepa
BTRs

(abandoned)
#747 posted January 9, 2008 at 2:38pm (EST)  

I did not join Gametz in time for this but I see a couple people who did not receive their items and got stiffed..If you would PM me (the 2 people who sent gifts but received nothing) that would be great.
Thanks
CygnusTM
Global Trader (4) Has Written 2 Reviews

(frozen)
#748 posted January 9, 2008 at 2:45pm (EST)  

baby_phat_girl03603 wrote:
> I did not join Gametz in time for this but I see a couple
> people who did not receive their items and got stiffed..If
> you would PM me (the 2 people who sent gifts but received
> nothing) that would be great.
> Thanks

You can see who didn't receive a gift by looking at the graphic in the first post.
jshepa
BTRs

(abandoned)
#749 posted January 9, 2008 at 3:58pm (EST)  

My plan is to make this right. Nobody should have gotten stiffed so I am going to take care of it. I want the people who did not receive something to have something. I feel that is fair. So if they can PM me I would like to send each of them something.
mmm40x
Global Trader (4)

(frozen)
#750 posted January 9, 2008 at 4:05pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 7:23pm (EST)  

Admiral wrote:
> We can put BTR's on them for this right? They are CERTAINLY
> not "good traders" by acting this way...

Abstrack23 is getting one right now. I ponyed up his sub time contacted him a couple of times. He was real flip about it and still haven't heard from him.

Bruce_34
Yeaaahhhh... *wink* GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader

#751 posted January 9, 2008 at 4:39pm (EST)  

Let's start killing the deadbeats. Preferably starting with Dads, but that's just my opinion.


-Talk to the elbow, because you're not worth the extension. *snap* *snap* *snap*
jshepa
BTRs

(abandoned)
#752 posted January 9, 2008 at 4:58pm (EST)  

Thank You Admiral. I just think it is not very fair for those who didnt receive to have been waiting all this time and sure enough, nothing but disappointment. I know I would be ticked if it happened to me and I like giving gifts so I figured I would make someone happy that wasnt so happy and got burned. This site should be a fun place and when the couple of deadbeats want to ruin that I feel the need to step in, Newbie or Not.
Jeffro
"YEAH!!!!!" GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (4) Has Written 3 Reviews

#753 posted January 9, 2008 at 4:59pm (EST)  

So, was there already a thread revealing the secret santas?




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willyum
Go Ninja Go Ninja Go! GameTZ Gold Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Gold Global Trader (16)

#754 posted January 9, 2008 at 5:27pm (EST)  

I'm extremely disappointed that Abstrakt23 turned out to be a deadbeat. I know he received a good gift, and it's just unfair that he didn't return the gesture to whoever he was assigned to. Admiral, kudos to you for taking the initiative to make sure that those who didn't receive actually get something. I was going to suggest that something similar be done, but you beat me to it.  * smile *
mmm40x
Global Trader (4)

(frozen)
#755 posted January 9, 2008 at 5:44pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 5:44pm (EST)  

Would a Very High Starred Trader Who is also Respected be willing to collect donations of 1 or 2 bucks? That way no one person gets stuck and those guys get their gifts?


willyum
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Gold Global Trader (16)

#756 posted January 9, 2008 at 5:48pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 5:48pm (EST)  

Whoops! My apologies baby_phat_girl03603, for the mistake! Kudos to you for your good deeds! And thank you, Admiral, for setting me straight. Props to the both of you!

>Would a Very High Starred Trader Who is also Respected be willing to collect donations of 1 or 2 bucks? |>That way no one person gets stuck and those guys get their gifts?

I'm all for that; it's a great idea! Excellent suggestion!
Helen
GameTZ Subscriber Bronze Good Trader
Gold Global Trader (7)

#757 posted January 9, 2008 at 6:16pm (EST)  

Am I highly starred and also respected? I can collect paypal (non-CC so no fees) for this.
Pyramid_Party
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (4) Has Written 6 Reviews

#758 posted January 9, 2008 at 6:16pm (EST)  

and i think abstrakt was even bragging how he got a wonderful gift too
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Global Trader (6)

#759 posted January 9, 2008 at 7:20pm (EST)  

So 2 people got stiffed huh? That's crapty. Whoever didn't send a gift should be banned.

You know. From Christmas.

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mmm40x
Global Trader (4)

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#760 posted January 9, 2008 at 7:28pm (EST)  

Helen wrote:
> Am I highly starred and also respected? I can collect
> paypal (non-CC so no fees) for this.

I feel confident in saying you are one of the top most respected members.  * yes * Thanks for offering.
Unless someone has a problem with it. (doubtful) Should we start a new thread for better visibility?


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