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CygnusTM
 
(frozen)
| #1 posted October 23, 2007 at 3:45pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 10:56am (EST) |
Yes, I have returned from the dead. It's time for the... GameTZ Secret Santa
Once again, we will be using a subtime "bond" to encourage people to follow through on sending. If someone gets stiffed on a gift, at least they will get something. Any subscriber without a BTR is eligible to sign up. If you don't have at least a Bronze Star , you will have to put up double the bond. Everyone will signup in one of three pools: United States, Canada, and Anywhere. Signups for the US and Canada pools are limited to users in that country, respectively. Everyone else must signup in the Anywhere pool. Residents of the US and Canada may signup in the Anywhere pool if international shipping is not a problem. Everyone will be assigned a partner from their own pool.
Everyone must put up 8 weeks subtime. (16 weeks if less than Bronze Star ) If you don't have that much, someone else can put it up for you, but the bond will be returned to you. It is up to you to repay your benefactor. You will get one week (two weeks if less than Bronze Star ) back when you provide a valid tracking number that proves you've sent, and you will get the rest back when your partner receives. Signups are open now and will continue until November 29. Partners will then be assigned and mailed out. There will be weekly reminder e-mails sent to those whose partners have not received. Items must be received by December 25. At that time, anyone who hasn't received will receive one-quarter of his/her Santa's subtime bond. If a gift still isn't received after one week (January 1) another quarter will be awarded. If yet another week passes (January 8) the remaining half will be sent. Sending and receiving will be tracked through the signup site. It is very important that you update the site as soon as you send and receive so the subtime bond can be handled appropriately.
The target gift value is $10-20 US. Gifts MUST be worth at least $10 US not including shipping. Every effort should be made to send a complete item. If you are sending something used, it should be complete and in at least "very good" condition. This is not a way to unload your unwanted crap.
Tips:
 Look at your partner's wants and check his/her lists and posts. Put the same effort into selecting a gift for your partner that you would want someone else to put into yours.
If your partner has inadequate "wants", don't just give up and stiff him/her. Just get a gift card to Walmart or something like that.
Make sure you provide adequate "wants" for your Santa. There should be at least 4-5 things on your list that fit in the target range.
When you get assigned a partner, go out right away, get something and send it. Immediately. Especially, if you have to send international.
If, before signing up, you already have something picked out to send to your partner, don't bother signing up. You just don't get it.
WARNING
People suck. Despite our best efforts, I guarantee there will be people who will get stiffed. If you don't intend to follow through on your commitment here, please do not sign up.
I'm sure the moderators will keep a close eye on this thread. Please keep discussion here about the SS, so things get don't out of hand like in the past.
Signup at http://gtzss.cygnustm.com and send your subtime bond to me. Just posting here will not get you in. Please use your GameTZ username when you signup. This makes it easier for your Santa to find your list. None of the accounts from the previous SS's are there. Everyone will have to re-register.
When you get your gift, post here and log in to http://gtzss.cygnustm.com and indicate that you have received.
This graphic will track who has received:
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mmm40x
(frozen)
| #761 posted January 9, 2008 at 7:52pm (EST)
edited January 10, 2008 at 1:06am (EST) |
Well, Abstrak23 responded to my BTR. Apparently, I am an idiot for not understanding when Abstrank23 asked someone to lend him the bond that what that meant was Give it to him free  He said nothing about being a SS deadbeat.
http://gametz.com/?A=BadTraders&btuid=5680
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Eggplant_Wizard
| | #762 posted January 9, 2008 at 8:01pm (EST) |
What a dumbfudge. |
sinnie
  
| | #763 posted January 9, 2008 at 8:04pm (EST) |
What a freaking butt-hole. And yeah he/she/it was bragging about how good a gift he/she/it got. Made their own topic in General and was just whining over the fact that their gift was so awesome.
Complete bullcrap.
s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net |
jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #764 posted January 9, 2008 at 8:08pm (EST) |
I will donate some $ if you would rather do it that way. I would just hate to see 2 people getting stiffed so wanted to help out one way or another. PM me whoever is collecting the funds. |
willyum
  
| | #765 posted January 9, 2008 at 8:47pm (EST) |
baby_phat_girl03603 wrote:
> I will donate some $ if you would rather do it that way.
> I would just hate to see 2 people getting stiffed so wanted
> to help out one way or another. PM me whoever is collecting
> the funds.
Same here. |
Helen
| #766 posted January 9, 2008 at 8:52pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 10:08pm (EST) |
Paypal (non-CC) to me at helen.nie@gmail.com
mmm40x has also started a new thread for this in the General forum 
It's very kind of you to offer to send gifts baby_phat_girl03603, especially being new to our community (welcome to GameTZ btw!) but hopefully with everyone together we can give a bigger gift to these guys and make up a little for the wait too.  |
willyum
| | #767 posted January 9, 2008 at 9:03pm (EST) |
Just saw that thread. Thanks mmm40x for making that! I just sent my $2. |
sinnie
| | #768 posted January 9, 2008 at 9:18pm (EST) |
Excellent Helen, I also just sent $2.00
s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net |
dragonwarriorfan
| | #769 posted January 9, 2008 at 9:41pm (EST) |
You guys are too nice. I was one of the two "screwed." No worries, its part of it. I've said before I really enjoyed gift giving, especially my partner's response. I just hate that people got screwed - I don't mind that I was one of them so much as the principle of not honoring the agreement and would feel the same no matter who the recipient was.
No need to send me anything, seriously.
 Looking for Etrian Odyssey Case and Manual |
Eggplant_Wizard
| | #770 posted January 9, 2008 at 9:52pm (EST) |
Awesome!
http://gametz.com/forum/General/topic/285937.html#... |
mmm40x
(frozen)
| | #771 posted January 9, 2008 at 9:55pm (EST) |
dragonwarriorfan wrote:
> You guys are too nice. I was one of the two "screwed."
> No worries, its part of it. I've said before I really
> enjoyed gift giving, especially my partner's response.
> I just hate that people got screwed - I don't mind
> that I was one of them so much as the principle of
> not honoring the agreement and would feel the same
> no matter who the recipient was.
>
> No need to send me anything, seriously.
>
>
You'll get a gift and like it! Now hush!
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alexander8
| | #772 posted January 9, 2008 at 10:09pm (EST) |
so waht did ppl get
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[ 360 GT - JQS11 ADD ME ] |
millenium_dare
 
| #773 posted January 9, 2008 at 10:24pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 10:25pm (EST) |
Same here Dr. B, I don't feel the need to receive anything from you guys and gals but I sure appreciate the offer. I actually wish Todd would let me know who my deadbeat was so I can send the subtime bond back to their loaner...I feel that good deeds shouldn't be punished...
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jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #774 posted January 9, 2008 at 10:57pm (EST) |
I will send paypal as soon as my auctions end tomorrow. I feel great being able to help out. And thank you for the warm welcomes! |
alexander8
| | #775 posted January 9, 2008 at 10:58pm (EST) |
thats great of u babyphat member ur bud alex8 is always here if u feel like donating lol
[ Wii # - 2519 6000 6427 7046 ADD ME ]
[ 360 GT - JQS11 ADD ME ] |
Noltillian
(frozen)
| | #776 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:12pm (EST) |
CygnusTM wrote:
> And the deadbeats are...
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> Abstrakt23 and
> tbluhp
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> Abstrakt23 is still active, but I bet this is the last we ever hear
> of tbluhp.
tbluhp's last login was only 2 days ago.
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dragonwarriorfan
| | #777 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:21pm (EST) |
Thanks for the subtime, whomever!
Looking for Etrian Odyssey Case and Manual |
alexander8
| | #778 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:22pm (EST) |
u should have a miniumum of gold or higher on this its a lot more prevntable for scammers
[ Wii # - 2519 6000 6427 7046 ADD ME ]
[ 360 GT - JQS11 ADD ME ] |
Noltillian
(frozen)
| | #779 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:27pm (EST) |
No. That's a stupid idea.
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Noltillian
(frozen)
| | #780 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:34pm (EST) |
Not likely. I still haven't gotten my silver after 3 1/2 years.
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Jeffro
 
| | #781 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:41pm (EST) |
Or a gold subscriber............
GTZ Steam First Meet will be Some Time Soon
We will be meeting around {insert time here}
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jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #782 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:43pm (EST) |
I wouldnt be able to join the next one then lol....that stinks..oh well...maybe it should be a "who has 96% or higher" LOL...because I have noticed some posts about gold stars turning bad....just a thought. |
kzn
(frozen)
| | #783 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:44pm (EST) |
Not all Bronze traders are douchebags. |
Forgotten_Freshness
 
| | #784 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:44pm (EST) |
Just subscribe for a year Gold subscriber would be hot because then they're locked in for over a year left at least 
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Sneeks
| | #785 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:48pm (EST) |
yes and yes. |
willyum
| | #786 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:50pm (EST) |
dragonwarriorfan wrote:
> You guys are too nice. I was one of the two "screwed." No
> worries, its part of it. I've said before I really enjoyed
> gift giving, especially my partner's response. I just hate
> that people got screwed - I don't mind that I was one of
> them so much as the principle of not honoring the agreement
> and would feel the same no matter who the recipient was.
>
>
> No need to send me anything, seriously.
>
>
I agree with you; I enjoy the actual giving far more than the receiving. I'm sure lots of the people who joined the Secret Santa feel the same way (well, except the ones who joined to screw people over). Hence the fact that we're going to get you something, whether you like it or not. Ha ha ha!  |
Helen
| #787 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:52pm (EST)
edited January 10, 2008 at 12:00am (EST) |
willyum wrote:
> dragonwarriorfan wrote:
>> You guys are too nice. I was one of the two "screwed."
> No
>> worries, its part of it. I've said before I really enjoyed
>> gift giving, especially my partner's response. I just
> hate
>> that people got screwed - I don't mind that I was one
> of
>> them so much as the principle of not honoring the agreement
>> and would feel the same no matter who the recipient was.
>>
>>
>> No need to send me anything, seriously.
>>
>>
>
> I agree with you; I enjoy the actual giving far more than
> the receiving. I'm sure lots of the people who joined the
> Secret Santa feel the same way (well, except the ones who
> joined to screw people over). Hence the fact that we're
> going to get you something, whether you like it or not.
> Ha ha ha!
Agreed 100%!
Cygnus, could you please send me the Secret Santa want lists of the 2 guys in question? |
jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #788 posted January 9, 2008 at 11:59pm (EST) |
LOL I will THINK about it hahaha....so what do I need to do to get in on this next year? I do not know if I would be able to do the subscription thing but I do really want to join in! |
mmm40x
(frozen)
| | #789 posted January 10, 2008 at 12:04am (EST) |
baby_phat_girl03603 wrote:
> My plan is to make this right. Nobody should have gotten
> stiffed so I am going to take care of it. I want the
> people who did not receive something to have something.
> I feel that is fair. So if they can PM me I would like
> to send each of them something.
How very generous of you. This shouldn't fall to one person tho. We are a community of traders. I think we can pull together to help our fellow gamers.
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jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #790 posted January 10, 2008 at 12:07am (EST) |
Thanks mmm! I think the way it is now being done is perfect. Thanks to those who set it up and I am glad to help |
Bruce_34
| | #791 posted January 10, 2008 at 12:53am (EST) |
Admiral wrote:
> Paypal sent Kudos to everyone chipping in, to Helen for collecting, and
>Baby_Phat_Girl (PLEASE get an easier name to type!!! ) for the idea!!!
Check it.(If it's ok with her that is..)... "Vanessa."
-Talk to the elbow, because you're not worth the extension. *snap* *snap* *snap* |
Richie
(frozen)
| | #792 posted January 10, 2008 at 2:11am (EST) |
Cheers to those wanting to correct the situation. Again, GameTZ 
Jeers to the two losers who screwed their secret santa recipients. And in my opinion, both
should receive a BTR.
| "Being President is easy. You just point the Army and shoot" -Homer Simpson |
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jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #793 posted January 10, 2008 at 7:13am (EST) |
LOL..."Vanessa"...very creative definitely. I NEVER would have thought of that. Wow you guys are GREAT!! LOL.....That made my morning. You guys make me laugh lol |
virtuadept
| | #794 posted January 10, 2008 at 8:17am (EST) |
baby_phat_girl03603 wrote:
> LOL I will THINK about it hahaha....so what do I need to do to get
> in on this next year? I do not know if I would be able to do the subscription
> thing but I do really want to join in!
There was talk of putting together one this summer as a Christmas in July or whatever type deal. If Cygnus is not up to running it, I could maybe do it, minus the fancy web site. Actually I have a web site I just would have to whip something together for keeping track of users on it. That way we get TWO BIG EVENTS per year!
Visit virtuadept's RPG forum! or virtuadept's blog! |
CygnusTM
(frozen)
| | #795 posted January 10, 2008 at 8:19am (EST) |
I was thinking for next year we require that participants have at least a bronze star and have been a member for at least one year. We can probably make an exception for you next year, Vanessa. These criteria would have eliminated the two deadbeats. |
jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #796 posted January 10, 2008 at 8:35am (EST) |
Sounds good! How many trades do I need to get a bronze anyways? And how many for gold? |
virtuadept
| | #797 posted January 10, 2008 at 8:37am (EST) |
http://gametz.com/?x&A=Good+Traders
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jshepa
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #798 posted January 10, 2008 at 8:40am (EST) |
Okay! I can do bronze within the next month LOL..I have alot of trades going on, just waiting to receive my side as everyone has received theirs...Thanks for posting that! |
John
 
| | #799 posted January 10, 2008 at 10:33am (EST) |
Maybe we just need to increase the bond for the less than bronze people up to a level so that it really would make a great gift if they didn't come through.
- John...
"I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place!"
- Nixon's Head, Futurama |
Helen
| | #800 posted January 10, 2008 at 11:22am (EST) |
A more substantial bond is a good idea, though I'm not sure it should be different for starred traders and unstarred... it doesn't make much difference to someone who got ripped off, and it shouldn't make much difference to those who aren't planning to rip anyone off since we'll get it back afterwards.
Going back to what you said earlier though, I think it's very important for people to be less generous about handing out subtime loans for this thing. Yes, it's the holiday season and we all like to be helpful and believe the best of everyone, but it also kind of defeats the purpose of the bond. We should only offer loans to people we know well and are willing to personally vouch for, since that's literally what we're doing.
Regarding the gifts fund for the SS deadbeat victims, I'm glad to see so many people supporting this and supporting the spirit of the GTZ Secret Santa. I was thinking to take donations until the end of the day and then try get the gifts out tomorrow - these guys have waited long enough for their SS gifts. If anyone wants to contribute but won't have funds until after today, feel free to PM me. |
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