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CygnusTM
 
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| #1 posted October 23, 2007 at 3:45pm (EST)
edited January 9, 2008 at 10:56am (EST) |
Yes, I have returned from the dead. It's time for the... GameTZ Secret Santa
Once again, we will be using a subtime "bond" to encourage people to follow through on sending. If someone gets stiffed on a gift, at least they will get something. Any subscriber without a BTR is eligible to sign up. If you don't have at least a Bronze Star , you will have to put up double the bond. Everyone will signup in one of three pools: United States, Canada, and Anywhere. Signups for the US and Canada pools are limited to users in that country, respectively. Everyone else must signup in the Anywhere pool. Residents of the US and Canada may signup in the Anywhere pool if international shipping is not a problem. Everyone will be assigned a partner from their own pool.
Everyone must put up 8 weeks subtime. (16 weeks if less than Bronze Star ) If you don't have that much, someone else can put it up for you, but the bond will be returned to you. It is up to you to repay your benefactor. You will get one week (two weeks if less than Bronze Star ) back when you provide a valid tracking number that proves you've sent, and you will get the rest back when your partner receives. Signups are open now and will continue until November 29. Partners will then be assigned and mailed out. There will be weekly reminder e-mails sent to those whose partners have not received. Items must be received by December 25. At that time, anyone who hasn't received will receive one-quarter of his/her Santa's subtime bond. If a gift still isn't received after one week (January 1) another quarter will be awarded. If yet another week passes (January 8) the remaining half will be sent. Sending and receiving will be tracked through the signup site. It is very important that you update the site as soon as you send and receive so the subtime bond can be handled appropriately.
The target gift value is $10-20 US. Gifts MUST be worth at least $10 US not including shipping. Every effort should be made to send a complete item. If you are sending something used, it should be complete and in at least "very good" condition. This is not a way to unload your unwanted crap.
Tips:
 Look at your partner's wants and check his/her lists and posts. Put the same effort into selecting a gift for your partner that you would want someone else to put into yours.
If your partner has inadequate "wants", don't just give up and stiff him/her. Just get a gift card to Walmart or something like that.
Make sure you provide adequate "wants" for your Santa. There should be at least 4-5 things on your list that fit in the target range.
When you get assigned a partner, go out right away, get something and send it. Immediately. Especially, if you have to send international.
If, before signing up, you already have something picked out to send to your partner, don't bother signing up. You just don't get it.
WARNING
People suck. Despite our best efforts, I guarantee there will be people who will get stiffed. If you don't intend to follow through on your commitment here, please do not sign up.
I'm sure the moderators will keep a close eye on this thread. Please keep discussion here about the SS, so things get don't out of hand like in the past.
Signup at http://gtzss.cygnustm.com and send your subtime bond to me. Just posting here will not get you in. Please use your GameTZ username when you signup. This makes it easier for your Santa to find your list. None of the accounts from the previous SS's are there. Everyone will have to re-register.
When you get your gift, post here and log in to http://gtzss.cygnustm.com and indicate that you have received.
This graphic will track who has received:
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maddawg
  
| | #81 posted November 3, 2007 at 8:02pm (EST) |
i cant sign up
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Forgotten_Freshness
  
| | #82 posted November 3, 2007 at 8:38pm (EST) |
I sent you my bond... it was 8 weeks subtime right? I did it 
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virtuadept
(frozen)
| | #83 posted November 3, 2007 at 10:07pm (EST) |
send 8 more just to be sure. and send me 8 more for my role as subtime advisor.
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CygnusTM
(frozen)
| | #84 posted November 4, 2007 at 8:35am (EST) |
ChaosOverdose wrote:
> Not a problem, anytime man.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what's the most people we've had
> participate in the Secret Santa? Anyone remember?
I think we had around 50 one year. We were mentioned in a newsletter that went out during the sign-up period.
mmm40x wrote:
> Hmmm, SS is slow this year. What's up with that?
How do you mean "slow?" This is the same timing we've used in the past.
Forgotten_Freshness wrote:
> I sent you my bond... it was 8 weeks subtime right? I did
> it
The acknowledgment in the first post isn't automatic. I have to see the transfer e-mail and update the DB manually. |
vDub
 
| | #85 posted November 4, 2007 at 11:13am (EST) |
CygnusTM - I think she meant that it's slow in that there aren't as many users signed up compared to past years.
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Jeffro
 
| #86 posted November 4, 2007 at 11:39am (EST)
edited November 4, 2007 at 11:39am (EST) |
GameTZ use to have newsletters? bill's fudgein' up.
YOUR SUCH A SUPER LADY!! |
mmm40x
(frozen)
| | #87 posted November 4, 2007 at 1:46pm (EST) |
vDub wrote:
> CygnusTM - I think she meant that it's slow in that
> there aren't as many users signed up compared to past
> years.
>
>
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mmm40x
(frozen)
| | #88 posted November 4, 2007 at 1:50pm (EST) |
Admiral wrote:
> Ha! I haven't seen a newsletter is a couple of years
> or so...what happened to those? 
We had one on 2/6/2007
http://gametz.com/forum/Announcements/topic/260297...
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Jeffro
| | #89 posted November 4, 2007 at 3:02pm (EST) |
"Well it has been a while (over 18 months) since I last sent out a GameTZ Newsletter. But, I was thinking, maybe I should get back into the habit of doing this."-bill
Bahahahahahahahaha, maybe he means a habit of every 18 months(I really do  u bill, seriously  )
YOUR SUCH A SUPER LADY!! |
maddawg
| | #90 posted November 4, 2007 at 9:52pm (EST) |
i dont know why but it says user name is invalad
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CygnusTM
(frozen)
| #91 posted November 4, 2007 at 10:49pm (EST)
edited November 4, 2007 at 10:50pm (EST) |
maddawg wrote:
> i dont know why but it says user name is invalad
You have to sign-up before you can log in. |
Abstrakt23
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #92 posted November 5, 2007 at 3:57am (EST) |
Im interested in taking part in this!
but i dont have subtime so if anyone wants to cover me, i'd appreciate it. Hope this all goes well, good idea, idk if you've had this program going for years or if this is the first, because it's my first |
maddawg
| | #93 posted November 5, 2007 at 12:28pm (EST) |
where do i send the subtime
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Helen
 
| | #94 posted November 5, 2007 at 12:29pm (EST) |
Send it to CygnusTM |
John
 
| #95 posted November 5, 2007 at 1:49pm (EST)
edited November 5, 2007 at 1:49pm (EST) |
IMO, people should stop doing subtime loans for people. This is an excellent opportunity for people to actually subscribe to take part.
Just say  to subtime bond loans! 
- John...
"Because you made a phone call."
- Brill, Enemy of the State |
virtuadept
(frozen)
| | #96 posted November 5, 2007 at 3:46pm (EST) |
ya rly.
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HAMMER
| | #97 posted November 5, 2007 at 6:19pm (EST) |
What does it matter if somebody loans somebody else subtime or not? If people don't want to subscribe they don't have to. It's not mandatory.
And what about people like me? I got a loan and paid it back a week later. Does that bother you too?
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Jeffro
| | #98 posted November 5, 2007 at 7:58pm (EST) |
Your just itchin' to be Gogganized.
I was acually going to say something, but I cowered in fear(much easier, btw).
YOUR SUCH A SUPER LADY!! |
Shadowchemist
 BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #99 posted November 5, 2007 at 9:35pm (EST) |
I Love Mr. Goggan.
*whips out popcorn* |
John
| | #100 posted November 5, 2007 at 9:56pm (EST) |
No show, sorry. I simply think that the whole point here is that it was decided that to give some sort of guarantee that people don't screw things up, a subtime bond is required. Someone else giving that bond pretty much screws up that guarantee.
So, no, subscribing is not required to use this site -- but I would argue that, if that is what is used for a bond for this non-official-site event, then it should indeed be required.
- John...
Join the GameTZ Secret Santa now! |
Shadowchemist
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #101 posted November 5, 2007 at 9:58pm (EST) |
You made me whip out my popcorn for nothing John. NOTHING! |
John
| | #102 posted November 5, 2007 at 10:01pm (EST) |
Some people aren't worth Gogganizing...
Actually, in this case, it is just that I don't care enough about the topic. I do believe in it, but it isn't my event, so it doesn't matter much. If I were running it myself and decided to require a subtime bond, then I wouldn't allow transfers from other people is all. Cygnus is free to do as he wants, of course.
- John...
Join the GameTZ Secret Santa now! |
virtuadept
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| #103 posted November 5, 2007 at 10:45pm (EST)
edited November 5, 2007 at 10:47pm (EST) |
how would you stop it? you only know about it because people are posting about it here. they could just as easily have made arrangements in chat or PM and borrowed the subtime to their own account and then transfered it to Cygnus. so while i agree with you in principle, the more i think about it, it's a bad rule because rules that are unenforcible are bad. 
edit: oh and the reason i was for the "subscriber only" idea is because i would hope that people using the site often enough to even know about secret santa should be helping out the site by subscribing. if that's subscriber elitism, so be it.
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Abstrakt23
BTRs
(abandoned)
| | #104 posted November 5, 2007 at 11:42pm (EST) |
John wrote:
> IMO, people should stop doing subtime loans for people. This is an
> excellent opportunity for people to actually subscribe to take part.
>
> Just say to subtime bond loans!
>
Well i actually am a subscriber, just dont have 8 weeks, but i guess that means i wont be buying someone a gift, it's not like it's selfish of me to ask for a loan so i can take part in this.
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ACEuvSPADES
| | #105 posted November 6, 2007 at 12:29am (EST) |
Well I like HAMMER, so I know that either A) he will subscribe at a later date and pay me back, or B) will do something else to make up for it.
It's a community. If I see that someone needs my help with something (i.e--the subtime bond for secret santa), I'm more than happy to help out. I'm probably not going to drop tons of subtime for someone I don't really know.
Plus the fact that he was already a subscriber. Oh well. I guess the point is that I don't mind doing it, and I don't see why anyone else would. Especially for a member that's been here for 5+ years like he has. He knows how the site works. |
John
| | #106 posted November 6, 2007 at 8:39am (EST) |
virtuadept wrote:
> how would you stop it? you only know about it because people are posting
> about it here.
No, in some cases, people are sending subtime straight to Cygnus on behalf of someone else. THAT is what I wouldn't allow.
If User A wants to send subtime to User B and then User B sends it to Cygnus, that's fine. I just wouldn't allow User A to send subtime straight to me "on behalf of" User B.
I don't care how people get the subtime -- as long as they send it. If they trade for it or borrow it from someone else, then that is fine. (Although, on a side note, I would recommend that people not loan others subtime for this -- but, if they did, that's not my concern -- I would still accept their subtime, of course.)
> edit: oh and the reason i was for the "subscriber only" idea is because
> i would hope that people using the site often enough to even know
> about secret santa should be helping out the site by subscribing.
> if that's subscriber elitism, so be it.
Agreed to that.
- John...
Join the GameTZ Secret Santa now! |
John
| #107 posted November 6, 2007 at 8:40am (EST)
edited November 6, 2007 at 8:41am (EST) |
Abstrakt23 wrote:
> Well i actually am a subscriber, just dont have 8 weeks,
Then buy more. Or trade for some.
> but i guess
> that means i wont be buying someone a gift, it's not like it's selfish
> of me to ask for a loan so i can take part in this.
You're free to ask. I just suggested that people shouldn't give. heh.
And, whether or not it is "selfish" to ask for money/subtime is a whole another argument that I don't feel like pursuing.
- John...
Join the GameTZ Secret Santa now! |
CygnusTM
(frozen)
| | #108 posted November 6, 2007 at 10:01am (EST) |
John wrote:
> No, in some cases, people are sending subtime straight to
> Cygnus on behalf of someone else. THAT is what I wouldn't
> allow.
>
> If User A wants to send subtime to User B and then User
> B sends it to Cygnus, that's fine. I just wouldn't allow
> User A to send subtime straight to me "on behalf of" User
> B.
I wasn't keen on that either, but I'm tying to be inclusive. I'm just deterring it by not keeping track of who sent for whom. If User A send a bond for User B, when it comes time to return the bond, I'm sending it to User B. That means that if User B never subscribes, User A will most likely not get all the subtime back since it will start to deplete as soon as I send it to User B.
>> edit: oh and the reason i was for the "subscriber only"
> idea is because
>> i would hope that people using the site often enough
> to even know
>> about secret santa should be helping out the site by
> subscribing.
>> if that's subscriber elitism, so be it.
> Agreed to that.
I'm not against making it subscriber-only, but I think it might be too late for that. |
virtuadept
(frozen)
| | #109 posted November 6, 2007 at 1:37pm (EST) |
i can definitely see admiral's argument that the goal here is to get as much participation as possible. but i would encourage people to subscribe if they use the site often, that's all. bill needs love too.
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kzn
(frozen)
| | #110 posted November 6, 2007 at 4:44pm (EST) |
No he doesnt. |
Jeffro
| | #111 posted November 6, 2007 at 6:56pm (EST) |
bill eats love like candy, I'm currently working on a second batch for him.
YOUR SUCH A SUPER LADY!! |
maddawg
| | #112 posted November 7, 2007 at 1:14am (EST) |
i sent my subtime why does it say that i didnt
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mmm40x
(frozen)
| | #113 posted November 7, 2007 at 4:25pm (EST) |
maddawg wrote:
> i sent my subtime why does it say that i didnt
>
Todd has to change it manually.
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ryanflucas
 
| | #114 posted November 8, 2007 at 2:25am (EST) |
I signed up and sent bond
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dragonwarriorfan
| | #115 posted November 8, 2007 at 5:51pm (EST) |
ryanflucas wrote:
> I signed up and sent bond
james bond.
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vDub
| | #116 posted November 8, 2007 at 10:43pm (EST) |
where in the hell did that come from?
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sinnie
 
| | #117 posted November 8, 2007 at 10:53pm (EST) |
haha wow
s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net |
ACEuvSPADES
| | #118 posted November 8, 2007 at 11:08pm (EST) |
Christ, thank god I still wasn't at school. Wow. |
HAMMER
| | #119 posted November 9, 2007 at 1:41am (EST) |
I just chuckled Dr. B
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dragonwarriorfan
| | #120 posted November 9, 2007 at 11:56am (EST) |
HAMMER wrote:
> I just chuckled Dr. B
I was hoping someone would see that. I say it to myself every time I see one of Ryan's posts lol
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