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DummyP

#1 posted May 30, 2009 at 6:25pm (EST)

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Finn

#201 posted June 15, 2009 at 4:10pm (EST)

They are, but they can't win it all buy themselves. Pittsburgh just has to watch it or they will end up like Tampa.

Broccoli

#202 posted June 15, 2009 at 6:28pm (EST)

PJ Stock is pretty annoying as an analyst. Pierre McGuire is worse though. His ego is humungous. Hrudey is a lot better than he used to be.. I like Kelly Hrudey now.

As for the Pens, next year..... Malkin's cap hit goes from 3.85 mil to 9 mil, Staal goes from 2.2 cap hit to 4.0. Makes things a little more difficult, especially if/when the cap goes down.

Finn

#203 posted June 15, 2009 at 7:05pm (EST)

Broccoli wrote:
> PJ Stock is pretty annoying as an analyst. Pierre McGuire is worse
> though. His ego is humungous. Hrudey is a lot better than he used
> to be.. I like Kelly Hrudey now.
>
> As for the Pens, next year..... Malkin's cap hit goes from 3.85 mil
> to 9 mil, Staal goes from 2.2 cap hit to 4.0. Makes things a little
> more difficult, especially if/when the cap goes down.

THANK YOU! PJ Stock ... I was trying to remember that name

yes he is annoying. When Bordeur went down last year he actually called him brittle! Who the fudge does he think he is? Brodeur is far from brittle! PJ is useless. McGuire is not as bad as PJ though, ego aside he knows alot about the game. But yeah he can be a douche sometimes

Jesabell4246

#204 posted June 15, 2009 at 7:08pm (EST)

I wonder if the pens will become the NHL's Patriots. players take less $$$ to play and have a chance at a title, lol.

Finn

#205 posted June 15, 2009 at 7:19pm (EST)

Jesabell4246 wrote:
> I wonder if the pens will become the NHL's Patriots. players take
> less $$$ to play and have a chance at a title, lol.

Well it would not be a new thing to the NHL... Both Iginla took a lot less money to stay with the Flames, a lot of players take hometown discounts....

OuTrAgE
AHHH

#206 posted June 15, 2009 at 7:21pm (EST)

Hossa took less to sign with Detroit last year. I'm not sure what Edmonton was offering him, but it was probably 9-10 mil.

Hell, Crosby signed for less than you know he could have gotten. Like Avro said, it's definitely not uncommon.

Broccoli

#207 posted June 16, 2009 at 1:08pm (EST)

Hossa ain't gettin no 9 million now. That's Crosby/Ovech/Malkin money..
Hossa is worth about 7 a year... though suitors might be a bit wary on him still..

OuTrAgE
AHHH

#208 posted June 16, 2009 at 1:11pm (EST)

Ehhh, I don't know about that. He had a great regular season and did solidly in the rest of the playoffs. He played great in last year's finals, so I don't really think you can call him a finals choker or anything.

If Detroit doesn't resign him, which I think they will, I think somebody will offer him 8-9 mil a year.

Suikoden

#209 posted June 16, 2009 at 1:14pm (EST)

No chance does Detroit offer Hossa 7 mil again

At times,I hate to practice,but I love to play.I know I need to study and I know I need to practice and I know how important it is.That doesn't mean I have to like it. The question I have to ask myself is am I willing to do that?And the answer is yes

OuTrAgE
AHHH

#210 posted June 16, 2009 at 1:18pm (EST)

Yeah, probably not. But, I think they'll offer him 5-6, and I think he'll take it.

Suikoden

#211 posted June 17, 2009 at 1:03pm (EST)

I hear they have a new drink at Starbucks called "The Hossa", but it comes without the cup.

Mendo

#212 posted June 17, 2009 at 1:04pm (EST)

So cheesy but i still laughed

DirtyMarco

#213 posted June 17, 2009 at 1:20pm (EST)

Hey Guy congrats on getting those BTRs cleared up.

jj10_19

#214 posted June 17, 2009 at 3:59pm (EST)

http://www.wgnradio.com/sports/sns-ap-hkn-red-wing...

so who do you think is to blame?

Broccoli

#215 posted June 17, 2009 at 8:27pm (EST)

Meh, they should just let it go.

Unless they really think Crosby was purposely being a jerk... just let it slide.

Finn

#216 posted June 17, 2009 at 10:38pm (EST)

They should let it go. Detroit Needs to let this go... The pens waited longer last year but a couple of wings are being really poor losers! Its the kids first fudging cup! Crosby did nothing wrong, the people who complain are just butt hurt that the wings lost. I say just shut up and deal with it.

jj10_19

#217 posted June 18, 2009 at 7:12pm (EST)

Avro wrote:
> They should let it go. Detroit Needs to let this go... The pens waited
> longer last year but a couple of wings are being really poor losers!

yes, but doesnt it make crosby a poor winner? just saying.

Ghaleon

#218 posted June 18, 2009 at 8:56pm (EST)

jj10_19 wrote:
> Avro wrote:
>> They should let it go. Detroit Needs to let this go... The pens
> waited
>> longer last year but a couple of wings are being really poor losers!
>
> yes, but doesnt it make crosby a poor winner? just saying.

He just won his first Stanley Cup, I really believe he got lost in the moment. There is no reason to not believe him.

This is just a case of trying to ruin it. He isn't the first professional sports player to not shake hands, and won't be the last.

Jesabell4246

#219 posted June 18, 2009 at 8:57pm (EST)

Not only that, but he became the youngest captain to win a cup....2 years before Gretzky even won one.

Finn

#220 posted June 18, 2009 at 9:57pm (EST)

jj10_19 wrote:
> Avro wrote:
>> They should let it go. Detroit Needs to let this go... The pens
> waited
>> longer last year but a couple of wings are being really poor losers!
>
> yes, but doesnt it make crosby a poor winner? just saying.

Not at all. Not at all.

Detroit are being poor sports about this. They made the pens wait longer last year and nothing was said...

Ghaleon

#221 posted June 18, 2009 at 10:29pm (EST)

A note to this.

Lidstrom has too much class to bring to up on his own in public. It isn't him starting this crap.

Mendo

#222 posted June 18, 2009 at 10:43pm (EST)

Everyone on Detroit is still bitter about losing the final. They had it set up just like they wanted it but couldnt pull the trigger. Still one of my favourite teams despite their not-so mature banter post loss.

The team just wants to be outspoken and protect their captain that lost some of his testicles and still came back to play for a chance to win. I'd back him up too, but would understand crosby was just caught in the moment.

He had surgery and still came back for game 7.That is nuts! (pun intended)

duckymcfly99

#223 posted June 19, 2009 at 2:30pm (EST)

the reason (well i think) why the wings didn't win was because of the money situation in Michigan. I am a MI native and i was rooting for the wings all through the season. when they blew then Pens out of the water i almost peed a little (not really). WE WERE GOING TO WIN! then...out of now where...

WE LOST!!! WTF??!?!@!1/1/21/?!?1/1!??!

we could have won but we couldn't throw another party after the whole mayor thing, and the auto industry failing, and us having the worst unemployment rate in the country, etc.

i'm not bitter, in fact i'm happy because at least there isn't a hockey strike!

Mendo

#224 posted June 20, 2009 at 2:59am (EST)

Guy wrote:
> Ahh the Stanley Cup. Crazy to see Pittsburgh and Detroit
> have at it again but Detroit will win.
>
> Pittsburgh has no chance in hell. Arguing about who is injured
> and who isn�t is pretty pointless. A team wins by the depth
> they have.
>
> While Pittsburgh is pretty solid (and showed it to get this
> far), Detroit is just too much. Every line is a threat,
> just watch the way they move the puck.
>
> I really like Malkin, and i wont even beef on him for getting
> into a scrap. He is a team player and was just doing it
> to get his guys into the game. Too little to late though,
> he�s going to have lots of opportunities to hoist the cup
> in his future..... just not this year.
>

Eating my own words... Talbot for the win! Whoo-wuda-thunk-it...

sixteenvolt420

#225 posted June 20, 2009 at 7:13am (EST)
edited June 20, 2009 at 7:32am (EST)

Jesabell4246 wrote:
> I wonder if the pens will become the NHL's Patriots. players take
> less $$$ to play and have a chance at a title, lol.

Brooks Orpik was offered a ton of money by other teams at the beginning of the season, and he chose to saty in pittsburgh for considerably less money. He said he loves how pittsburgh treats their players, and it's a team he greatly enjoys being a part of.

OuTrAgE wrote:
> Hossa took less to sign with Detroit last year. I'm not sure what
> Edmonton was offering him, but it was probably 9-10 mil.
>
> Hell, Crosby signed for less than you know he could have gotten.
> Like Avro said, it's definitely not uncommon.
>

Crosby also gets free room and board and also a great role model, living with Mario Lemieux and his family.

Broccoli wrote:
> PJ Stock is pretty annoying as an analyst. Pierre McGuire is worse
> though. His ego is humungous. Hrudey is a lot better than he used
> to be.. I like Kelly Hrudey now.
>
> As for the Pens, next year..... Malkin's cap hit goes from 3.85 mil
> to 9 mil, Staal goes from 2.2 cap hit to 4.0. Makes things a little
> more difficult, especially if/when the cap goes down.

Malkin and Orpik Contract: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=347113...

Jordan Staal Contract: http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/01/08/penguins-jordan...

Crosby Contract: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/spo...

Max Talbot Contract: http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2008/12/19/Penguins...

Fleury Contract: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/34707-marc-andr...

The pens have their 4 centermen, top goaltender, and their top 2 defensemen in gonchar and orpik signed atleast for the next 4 or 5 years and in some cases more. Fleury is also signed to a long term deal as well.

Suikoden

#226 posted June 24, 2009 at 10:44am (EST)

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv36/IlRe_DiDen...

sixteenvolt420

#227 posted June 24, 2009 at 3:43pm (EST)

Suikoden wrote:
> http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv36/IlRe_DiDen...
>
>
>

That's is priceless. My buddy and myself were yelling f.u. hossa at the end of the games for doing that. Like i've said before, i liked when we had hossa, but i wasn't really sad to see him go. I definately hated seeing jarko ruutu and ryan malone go more.

CoachMcGuirk
Coach McGuirk

#228 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:17am (EST)

Black Hole Brew pub is open for business! Drunken ramblings encouraged!

Mendo

#229 posted June 26, 2009 at 1:49am (EST)

Trade Deadline tomorrow! Kaberle from the leafs on the move! Great defensemen, sad to see him go but he deserves to be on a team with a chance

OuTrAgE
AHHH

#230 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:43pm (EST)

Anything official on him. I heard Kessle for Kaberle, but I don't think that went through.

Grimlock

#231 posted June 26, 2009 at 1:05pm (EST)

Nah, it didn't. It's still hinged on giving up that pick.

Heatley to the Rangers is another "done" deal. There's nothing done about these but they are getting there. Zherdev is one of the pieces.

2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS

OuTrAgE
AHHH

#232 posted June 26, 2009 at 1:10pm (EST)

I hope that doesn't happen. We don't need the Rangers getting any better.

I wonder how they could afford him though. They'd have to pay his bonus which I believe is $4 mil. They still have Lundqvist, Rozsival, Redden, Gomez, Drury. Plus like half of their team are free agents. I guess if the trade was like Rozsival + Zherdev and maybe a young D prospect or something, but I don't know if the Sens would take that. There has to be better deals than that.

Grimlock

#233 posted June 26, 2009 at 1:48pm (EST)

Yup. Roz or Redden are rumored to be piece a la dos.

I don't know about better.. certainly more explosive.

2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS

Mendo

#234 posted June 26, 2009 at 1:57pm (EST)

Heatly needs the change in scenery. I see him playin on the line with Antropov. Could be deadly.

Grimlock

#235 posted June 26, 2009 at 2:15pm (EST)

They'd have to resign him first.

2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS

Suikoden

#236 posted June 26, 2009 at 2:41pm (EST)

talks of Kaberle AND the Leafs 7th pick for Kessel

LOLOLOLOLOL

If Burke does this, I will laugh

Kaberle, sure, but the 7th pick?
You'd think they would try to trade up

Suikoden

#237 posted June 26, 2009 at 2:41pm (EST)

Guy wrote:
> Heatly needs the change in scenery. I see him playin on the line with Antropov.
> Could be deadly.

Burke said no to Heatley

Leafs will still blow next year

mentalpowers
A nice rock-n-roll band from Shepherd's Bush, London. . .

#238 posted June 26, 2009 at 2:59pm (EST)

Suikoden wrote:
> talks of Kaberle AND the Leafs 7th pick for Kessel
>
> LOLOLOLOLOL
>
> If Burke does this, I will laugh
>
> Kaberle, sure, but the 7th pick?
> You'd think they would try to trade up
>
>

If this is true, I wonder if the Bruins would then look to trade Wideman. The defense really isn't bad as it is as long as it's healthy, and they really need a pure scorer.

Suikoden

#239 posted June 26, 2009 at 3:10pm (EST)

I wouldn't trade wideman

Broccoli

#240 posted June 26, 2009 at 4:11pm (EST)

Is Kessel the guy Toronto wants to build its team around? I don't think so. Kessel is a bit one dimensional- I'm not convinced he's a "Burke" type player, though he's one of the premier young scorers in the game today, so maybe Burke will see it as a chance to get a top flight young gun. You can always teach guys to be better in other areas, but ya can't teach skill/scoring ability.

Ken Holland of the Wings always tells his agents to rate players based on their skill alone, and that team is arguably the best drafting team the last decade.

I can't see them giving Kaberle AND the 7th. Maybe Kaberle, a 2nd rounder (or 2), and Matt Stajan in exchange for Kessel works better for the Leafs I think.

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