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DummyP
  
| | #1 posted May 30, 2009 at 6:25pm (EST) |
me
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Broccoli
  
| | #321 posted July 4, 2009 at 6:08am (EST) |
To Heatley's credit, not including 08's sweep by the Pens over the Sens, Heatley's been a point per game playoff guy too.
The year Ottawa made it to the cup final Heatley, Spezza and Alfy were unstoppable- until they played Anaheim in the final. Everyone knows how that turned out. |
Grimlock
 
| | #322 posted July 4, 2009 at 12:12pm (EST) |
Heatley FUDGEED them over big time. If he would have taken the trade, they would have had Cogliano, Penner and Smid + Cammalleri in F/A.
Completely fudgeed. They should have traded Alfred when he was worth something a year or two ago. Spezza is their future.
2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS |
Broccoli
| | #323 posted July 4, 2009 at 7:32pm (EST) |
Alfy would have a lot of trade value right now I think.
He'll probably retire a lifelong Senator though.. |
Ghaleon
| | #324 posted July 6, 2009 at 4:12pm (EST) |
Kovalev and Koivu will not return to Montreal. There goes the heart and the top goal scorer on the team.
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Finn
 
| | #325 posted July 6, 2009 at 4:39pm (EST) |
Kovalev had one good season... and after last year it was not much of a loss. Besides its His fault he is not playing in Montreal next year! He had a verbally agreed to a contract and still decided to shop himself to see if he could find better. Koivu sad to see go.. but they had to go in a different direction! They have people that can step up and take on the role of leader! Montreals current team was not getting it done, not saying this will be any different... but they have more skill and a new direction... so its either going to be a playoff bound team or one that should get a good draft pick lol |
Ghaleon
| | #326 posted July 6, 2009 at 5:46pm (EST) |
Kovalev was the most skilled player on the team. But most fans expected him to carry the team on his back.
He can't do everything.
Now they have much less such and more dead weight.
Koivu is the player you should be bashing. He hasn't had a great season since before his cancer which is probably why he was even with the team still.
http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app?page=HistoricalP...
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
2003-2004 Canadiens 12 1 2 3 -4 12 0 0 1 29 3.4
2005-2006 Canadiens 69 23 42 65 -1 76 9 0 5 206 11.2
2006-2007 Canadiens 73 18 29 47 -19 78 8 0 5 197 9.1
2007-2008 Canadiens 82 35 49 84 18 70 17 0 5 230 15.2
2008-2009 Canadiens 78 26 39 65 -5 74 11 1 4 209 12.4
Team Totals: 314 103 161 264 -11 310 45 1 20 871 11.8
His numbers have been almost identical over the last few years. Last year was one of his better seasons with Montreal. At least he signed with the Sens, and can show the fans who dislike him how good he is. Just like most skilled players who leave Montreal do. Let's not forget Montreal hasn't been a really good team for a decade now, besides one year.
LeClair, Tucker(yes Tucker went on to have good seasons), Chelios, etc.
He just made Ottawa a better team, not that it will make that much a difference.
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Mendo
| | #327 posted July 6, 2009 at 5:50pm (EST) |
wow, Ottawa is the last team id want to play on. Good luck to him though, Ottawa might get their game back now if Heatley stays. |
Finn
| | #328 posted July 6, 2009 at 6:40pm (EST) |
Kovalev was good when HE wanted to be. He stunk it up last season (as did most of the team) Montreal needed to go into a new direction! They could not pin there hopes on a player that decides to play when he wants to! you never know wich one your going to get. Besides Montreal made an offer they had a verbal agreement and he still decided to look around so.. Its his fault he is not in Montreal.
Tucker, meh. He was no superstar! You forget what we got in that Chelios deal? and Leclair was lazy and doing crap in Montreal they traded him and he performs. You take that gamble on any young player when you trade him away! Montreal is not the only team to have this happen to.
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Ghaleon
| | #329 posted July 6, 2009 at 10:09pm (EST) |
Beauchemin signs with Toronto. Wasn't expecting that.
Tucker may not of been a star, I agree, but you're missing my point. He did better in Toronto. LeClair score 50 goals a year several times with Philly, so once again, he did better than in Montreal. Most stars that go to Montreal stink, then they get traded and do great.
Kovalev may of been good when he wanted to, but that was more than any other player did. Gainey got impatient and signed someone else. Which pretty well meant he had no real interest in him. |
Finn
| | #330 posted July 6, 2009 at 10:33pm (EST) |
Kovy Spun his wheels. Who is to say Montreal would have signed what they did had they waited? There offence is better now.. still to small. But its more skilled. Tucker may have been better but he was and is no star! Montreal (not when they had Leclair) had really crapty coaching, no system in place it was really bad! Up until now when you actually have a NHL coach with NHL experiece! This will go along way in building a system the players can buy into wich never happened before.
Kovalev had his best season as a pro Hockey player in Montreal! but he was to inconsistant! Montreal will not miss that! They will miss the days he decided to show up... This will be better for the young kids and alot of the new players should set a better example! I think we are better off with the team as it stands now then we were with the one we had last year!
Kormisierk (sp) was a defensive liability last year! He pissed Price off a lot! Sure Price had a shaky year but damn Big Mike would often screen the goalie I can't tell you how many times I seen Price look at Kormiserek after a goal went in! Let the damn goalie see the puck! Anyway I hope he gets is rythem back in Toronto.. he had a bad year! I am really liking the way TO's Defense is looking! they may actually be fun to watch this year! |
Grimlock
| | #331 posted July 7, 2009 at 12:12am (EST) |
What is Toronto going to do? Beat the crap out of people while Montreal tries the Louis Mendoza lines? David and Goliath when they play.
2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS |
Ghaleon
| | #332 posted July 7, 2009 at 12:28am (EST) |
Toronto has gotten bigger on D. Now if they can actually PLAY good.
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Grimlock
| | #333 posted July 7, 2009 at 12:41am (EST) |
It'll be a regular Fight Night on ice.
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Finn
| | #334 posted July 7, 2009 at 12:47am (EST) |
I actaully like what TO is doing! They won't be able to score... but they will be a hard team to play against. |
Grimlock
| | #335 posted July 7, 2009 at 12:53am (EST) |
Think Ducks with 100 less goals a year.
2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS |
Mendo
| | #336 posted July 7, 2009 at 1:30am (EST) |
LOL I think im going to like this new Leafs team. I just wish Matty stuck around for a couple more years. |
Suikoden
  
| | #337 posted July 7, 2009 at 10:29am (EST) |
Avro wrote:
> I actaully like what TO is doing! They won't be able to score... but they will
> be a hard team to play against.
why do people say they can't score? scoring was not their problem last year; weren't they like 10th?
At times,I hate to practice,but I love to play.I know I need to study and I know I need to practice and I know how important it is.That doesn't mean I have to like it. The question I have to ask myself is am I willing to do that?And the answer is yes |
Ghaleon
| | #338 posted July 7, 2009 at 4:36pm (EST) |
Jonas Gustavsson signed with Toronto. Finally a solid goalie in nets as a backup. |
Ghaleon
| | #339 posted July 7, 2009 at 4:38pm (EST) |
Suikoden wrote:
> Avro wrote:
>> I actaully like what TO is doing! They won't be able to score...
> but they will
>> be a hard team to play against.
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> why do people say they can't score? scoring was not their problem
> last year; weren't they like 10th?
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Scoring has never been a big problem, keeping the puck out of the net is. A pathetic PK and mediocre D was the cause. |
Broccoli
| | #340 posted July 10, 2009 at 10:32am (EST) |
Wii wrote:
> Suikoden wrote:
>> Avro wrote:
> |>> I actaully like what TO is doing! They won't be able to score...
>> but they will
> |>> be a hard team to play against.
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>> why do people say they can't score? scoring was not their problem
>> last year; weren't they like 10th?
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> Scoring has never been a big problem, keeping the puck out of the
> net is. A pathetic PK and mediocre D was the cause
Now the Leafs are poised to finish last in the league. They had the worst PK in the whole league last year.... and have now got all these huge tough guys who rack up the penalty minutes! Maybe they're making an early pitch for Taylor Hall of the Windsor Spitfires.. |
Mendo
| | #341 posted July 10, 2009 at 2:48pm (EST) |
I actually think that they might crack the playoffs this year. They might be first round exits but this team is a huge improvement. The penalty killing sucked because the defense and goaltending was terrible. Just cause LEafs had the worst states for PK last year, doesnt mean they will suffer the same fate. Good coaching and a change in the players mentality might teach them not to take so many dumb penalties.
Whats wicked is that each game is problably going to have at least one fight, and im all for that! |
Grimlock
| | #342 posted July 10, 2009 at 3:13pm (EST) |
JAY MCKEE WILL LEAD US BACK TO THE PROMISED LAND.
2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS |
Mendo
| | #343 posted July 15, 2009 at 7:53pm (EST) |
How many of you would be interested in a NHL pool for the upcoming season? Im willing to put a new release title up for grabs to the winner at the end of the season. Or maybe subtime too. Most likely 360 or PS3. Want to see how many hockey fans would partake. |
Broccoli
| | #344 posted July 16, 2009 at 9:27am (EST) |
In like Flynn |
Jesabell4246
| | #345 posted July 16, 2009 at 2:38pm (EST) |
I'm in. |
Mendo
| | #346 posted July 16, 2009 at 4:40pm (EST) |
Im thinking of 1 month subtime to enter. 8 forwards, 6 defensemen and 1 goalie.
Goals and assists are one point
Goalie wins are one point, a shut out gets you 2 points
Nice and simple, but it will keep discussions fresh as the season goes by. Feel free to add in some suggestions on the point scheme or any other ideas. Ill put up my Protoype for the PS3 or an xbox 360 game for the winner.
Ideally at least 10 people would make it interesting. I will let someone else hold the subtime, perferably a mod? or maybe Dummy, if that dummy ever fixes his BTR 
So if 10 people join, that would be 10 months subtime and a ps3/xbox360 game to the winner. If things go good we can have a playoff one as well after.
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Jesabell4246
| | #347 posted July 16, 2009 at 4:43pm (EST) |
just a thought, how about a GTZ based Yahoo fantasy hockey thing? that way its easier on you then updating all the time. |
Mendo
| | #348 posted July 16, 2009 at 4:52pm (EST) |
Ive seen those before, theres even one called hockeypool.net or .com. Ill confirm with my buddy but thats a good idea, it would look a lot better and i can post a link to it from the forum  |
Jesabell4246
| | #349 posted July 16, 2009 at 4:57pm (EST) |
glad I could help |
Grimlock
| | #350 posted July 17, 2009 at 3:51pm (EST) |
Let me know how we are doing this.
BTW, if any of you guys intend on getting NHL 10 for the 360, PM me. I made a team for the BAP mode and we were late 1st DIV early 2nd all season long and we started in January. Looking to get top 20 overall this game.
2008-2009 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS |
Mendo
| #351 posted July 19, 2009 at 11:32pm (EST)
edited July 19, 2009 at 11:32pm (EST) |
made a thread, check it!
http://gametz.com/forum/General/topic/349940.html#...
send me some feedback on the point scoring or anything else worth brainstroming, the lists are adjustable till the day before opening day
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