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metsfan718
  
| #1 posted June 20, 2009 at 12:01pm (EST)
edited November 5, 2009 at 12:04am (EST) |
This topic had many older posts which were moved here:
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SEspo
  
| | #721 posted November 5, 2009 at 12:44pm (EST) |
I just got home from New York.. (had to stay overnight, missed trains back to jersey)... Have TONS of pictures, woohooooooo. |
iowa_cowboy1968
| | #722 posted November 5, 2009 at 1:23pm (EST) |
Who freekin cares, Baseball is just as stupid and pointless as golf.......... |
Lino
| | #723 posted November 5, 2009 at 3:08pm (EST) |
-1
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Yazzinit
| | #724 posted November 5, 2009 at 3:14pm (EST) |
Woo. To the Canyon of Heroes tomorrow for the parade!
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SEspo
| | #725 posted November 5, 2009 at 3:33pm (EST) |
I'll see ya there Yazz. haha. |
Yazzinit
| | #726 posted November 5, 2009 at 3:34pm (EST) |
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GonePostal
  
| | #727 posted November 5, 2009 at 4:00pm (EST) |
You'll see me there too! I'll be down by City Hall.
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Feeb
| | #728 posted November 5, 2009 at 4:16pm (EST) |
Who won? |
SEspo
| | #729 posted November 5, 2009 at 4:38pm (EST) |
Marlins. |
BluePhoenix
 
| | #730 posted November 5, 2009 at 5:00pm (EST) |
SEspo wrote:
> Marlins.
yeah good thing Miguel Cabrera hit that walk off. |
metsfan718
| | #731 posted November 5, 2009 at 6:08pm (EST) |
iowa_cowboy1968 wrote:
> Who freekin cares, Baseball is just as stupid and pointless
> as golf..........
Yeah because Iowa doesn't have any teams lololol!!!!!! |
Feeb
| | #732 posted November 5, 2009 at 8:43pm (EST) |
SEspo wrote:
> Marlins.
See, I told you fudgeers. |
DirtyMarco
| | #733 posted November 5, 2009 at 9:22pm (EST) |
Broccoli wrote:
> yeah, you like seein guys get jizzed on lots, don't ya? Dirty Marco?
>
No, but I do like to imply that the Yankees are a bunch of cum guzzling whores. |
mentalpowers
| | #734 posted November 5, 2009 at 9:30pm (EST) |
Congratulations to the Yankees. They deserved this championship. Steinbrenner got robbed by Matsui for the MVP, though.
The offseason has already started:
The White Sox traded Chris Getz and Josh Fields to the Royals for Mark Teahen. I like the deal the both sides, but especially for KC. Fields exploded onto the scene a few years ago for Chicago, but has done nothing since. Getz struggled as a rookie, but he could be a solid guy for the end of the order. The Royals really added some decent, affordable depth. The Sox got a cheaper replacement for Dye in right field. Dye is certainly a better hitter, but I still think Teahen is a nice addition.
The Angels resigned Abreu for a couple years at $9 mil per year. This is a good signing, but the Angels will have to start worrying about having too many DHs soon.
The Red Sox traded a couple of minor league left handed relievers, Hunter Jones and Jose Alvarez, to the Marlins for Jeremy Hermida. I don't really know anything about Alvarez, but Jones looked terrible in his few major league innings. I guess Jones was pretty good against left handed hitters in the minors. It seems like a pretty small price for an average outfielder who still has some upside. At this point, I see Hermida replacing Baldelli as the fourth outfielder rather than being the starting left fielder. I don't think Hermida's a great fit, though, because he's a left handed hitter and the Sox already have lefties Drew and Ellsbury in the outfield. Since the price was so cheap, I'm okay with it, but I could see them flipping him later in the offseason. |
Broccoli
| | #735 posted November 5, 2009 at 10:20pm (EST) |
DirtyMarco wrote:
> No, but I do like to imply that the Yankees are a bunch of cum guzzling
> whores.
Good. I am in support of that.
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Broccoli
| | #736 posted November 5, 2009 at 10:21pm (EST) |
I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
Any year the NYY don't win the World Series, is another year choked. Well, I guess after all those years of choking, it was bound to happen again (the Yanks winning finally) |
GonePostal
| | #737 posted November 6, 2009 at 4:57am (EST) |
Broccoli GTFO ice cream man!
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DirtyMarco
| | #738 posted November 6, 2009 at 6:00am (EST) |
The 6th pic also looks like the guy is getting jizzed on.
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GonePostal
| | #739 posted November 6, 2009 at 7:13am (EST) |
More so actually.
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mentalpowers
| | #740 posted November 6, 2009 at 12:41pm (EST) |
The Brewers just traded JJ Hardy to the Twins for Carlos Gomez.
My first reaction was that the Twins got a steal, but I guess the trade is pretty helpful to the Brewers, too. Minnesota gets a shortstop who had a terrible season last year, but before that had been really good. I like Hardy's chances to rebound.
The Brewers get a cheap replacement for Cameron in center who is a terrific fielder, but not much of an offensive threat. The trade also ensures Escobar will get a good chance to grab the SS spot for good. The money that the Brewers will be saving is expected to go toward starting pitching.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/twins-acquir... |
rpgfan
| | #741 posted November 6, 2009 at 12:47pm (EST) |
I don't think teams were offering that much for Hardy, probably best offer they got.
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OuTrAgE
 
| | #742 posted November 6, 2009 at 12:56pm (EST) |
I was hoping the Pirates would land Hardy.
Then I woke up.
Need car parts? PM me and I may be able to help you out. |
rpgfan
| | #743 posted November 6, 2009 at 12:59pm (EST) |
They can have Suppan....cheap
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mentalpowers
| | #744 posted November 6, 2009 at 5:23pm (EST) |
If they waited, they might have received a better offer. It's not as though there's a strong SS free agency class. There's pretty much just Scutaro. I just think it's way too early for the excuse that it was the best offer they had. I think they could have gotten more value out of a prospect deal, but I can see why they'd want a major league player instead. |
GonePostal
| | #745 posted November 6, 2009 at 6:22pm (EST) |
Nice parade and celebration for the world champion New York Yankees today.
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rpgfan
| | #746 posted November 6, 2009 at 10:14pm (EST) |
mentalpowers wrote:
> If they waited, they might have received a better offer. It's not
> as though there's a strong SS free agency class. There's pretty much
> just Scutaro. I just think it's way too early for the excuse that
> it was the best offer they had. I think they could have gotten more
> value out of a prospect deal, but I can see why they'd want a major
> league player instead.
I have gotten too many headaches trying to figure the Brewers out.
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mentalpowers
| | #747 posted November 6, 2009 at 10:45pm (EST) |
rpgfan wrote:
> mentalpowers wrote:
>> If they waited, they might have received a better offer. It's
> not
>> as though there's a strong SS free agency class. There's pretty
> much
>> just Scutaro. I just think it's way too early for the excuse that
>> it was the best offer they had. I think they could have gotten
> more
>> value out of a prospect deal, but I can see why they'd want a major
>> league player instead.
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> I have gotten too many headaches trying to figure the Brewers out.
>
>
If what this article says is true, I'm baffled by the Brewers. How can you try to get a young pitchers like Buchholz or Bard, then settle for Gomez? I can understand not having any interest in Bowden, but trying to price Hardy as high as they apparently were for the Sox seems crazy.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extra... |
CoachMcGuirk
 
| | #748 posted November 7, 2009 at 12:27am (EST) |
Overweight girls in Wisconsin are going to be pissed when their guy friends tell them that JJ got traded... probably sometime in May 2010.
On the other hand...
Hispanic girls in Wisconsin are going to have a new heartthrob at SS when their guy friends tell them 'we' got them from the twinkies... probably sometime in May 2010, or whenever they go to their first game of the year.
Black Hole Brew pub is open for business! Drunken ramblings encouraged! |
rpgfan
| | #749 posted November 7, 2009 at 1:51am (EST) |
Or they can take them to the games when the Twins come to Miller Park and act surprised when he shows up in a visitors uniform.
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CoachMcGuirk
| | #750 posted November 7, 2009 at 1:57am (EST) |
Apparently Akinori Iwamura was traded to the Pirates, but I don't know for who or what. Why does MLB.com do that a lot? I couldn't even find the Jake Peavy trade to the White Sox from a couple months ago at all in the transactions page.
Black Hole Brew pub is open for business! Drunken ramblings encouraged! |
Yazzinit
| | #751 posted November 7, 2009 at 2:01am (EST) |
MLB.com blows for transactions.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playe...
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CoachMcGuirk
| | #752 posted November 7, 2009 at 2:03am (EST) |
Thank you. I've been meaning to find a better mlb transaction site; but never got around to it.
Black Hole Brew pub is open for business! Drunken ramblings encouraged! |
CoachMcGuirk
| | #753 posted November 7, 2009 at 2:07am (EST) |
Ha! This site is great!
Prosecutors in Clark County, Washington have agreed to drop marijuana possession charges in exchange for Tim Lincecum paying $377 in fines.
According to attorney Grant Hansen, the agreement is standard practice for a first-time misdemeanor offender who cooperates with police and Lincecum won't go to court. |
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Yazzinit
| | #754 posted November 7, 2009 at 2:15am (EST) |
Yea, rotoworld is a great site
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mentalpowers
| #755 posted November 7, 2009 at 9:34am (EST)
edited November 7, 2009 at 10:22am (EST) |
I haven't used Rotoworld in a long time. I'm even sure why. I check the following sites frequently:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
http://thebaseballcube.com/
http://www.minorleagueball.com/
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/index.jsp
http://firstinning.com/ |
rpgfan
| | #756 posted November 7, 2009 at 11:15am (EST) |
mlbtraderumors.com
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Lino
| | #757 posted November 9, 2009 at 5:51pm (EST) |
Broccoli wrote:
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
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> Any year the NYY don't win the World Series, is another year choked.
> Well, I guess after all those years of choking, it was bound to happen
> again (the Yanks winning finally)
I disagree completely. The point of the game is to win. Other owners are satisfied with single-year ticket sales and merchandising. Steinbrenner wants to win and has found the best formula is to put the most money behind your team cuz it equates to winning and $$$'s follow.
It was the biggest gripe with my hometown Marlins. They won the two quickest championships of any major sports franchise and what did they do? Dismantle the team the following year, both times! That doesn't add fans, that loses fans. That loses merchandise dollars. They have the gall to wonder why no one is coming to the games and it's not because south florida is a football town, it's because the fans have been crapted on every time a great player enters the organization we know the Marlins aren't gonna sign him for the long haul. Terrible formula and we almost lost the Marlins if it wasn't for crooked politics having the taxpayers back the funding for a new stadium and location.
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Yazzinit
| | #758 posted November 9, 2009 at 6:31pm (EST) |
This ^. That "buying championships" argument is years old now. The Yankees pay the highest luxury tax in the league, which is spread out to all other teams. There are numerous owners that have more worth and money than the Steinbrenners. Yes the Yanks have the largest market, but as we've seen the past 8 years, highest payroll means nothing. When's the last time the NBA's largest payroll team, the Knicks, won a title? Big market teams spend to win, small market teams trade and grow to win. The Marlins won twice on homegrown talent and cheap signings of guys like Pudge, etc.
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Broccoli
| | #759 posted November 10, 2009 at 6:21pm (EST) |
I don't disagree that the Marlins- or any team- should sign and try to keep their best players. I agree it doesn't make much sense to dismantle a winning team right away. I get that.
I just think that, with the amount of money and all the big names the Yanks have- every year- they probably expect to, and their fans probably expect them to be the best team in the league. Does anyone expect less, really??
Basketball, hockey, even football... those are all fluid sports where chemistry matters as much as talent. Baseball requires very little chemistry compared to them IMO. If you sign all the best players by simply outspending the other teams budgets, you should consistently BE the best team.The luxury tax doesn't exactly level the playing field, even if the Yanks are paying the most. It helps the smaller teams survive.
There's having the highest payroll... then there's having the gratuitously highest payroll. How is anyone going to win a division that has the Red Sox and Yankees together in it, without spending crazy amounts of money. You would have to have many of your draft picks coming into their primes in the same years, make all the right trades, and hope it's also a season the RSox/Yanks are both biting the bullet. It's going to be a very rare circumstance for other teams to successfully challenge that division.
I'm not saying it's wrong- if ya got the money and want to spend it, and MLB doesn't care to have rules to govern spending/salary caps- all the power to em. But when you consistently have the highest payroll by a ridiculous amount of money (even just compared to the 2nd highest spending team!)... you should consistently be the best team. The yankees are always the highest spenders by a huge margin, and they win championships much less than they should. A team like the NYY anyone could be the GM for. |
Yazzinit
| | #760 posted November 10, 2009 at 8:48pm (EST) |
The Yankees signed most of the best players from 01-08, won nothing. The 09 team actually had chemistry, one of the factors why they actually won. Kevin Brown, Mike Mussina, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, they were only around when it was their start. Otherwise, they weren't even around. Torre mentions this in detail in his book. THe 09 team was an actual team. Pitchers bonded, players got along, A-Rod finally decided to let himself be just a player, not A-Rod + 8. Chemistry matters in baseball quite a bit. The 04 Red Sox calling themselves "the idiots". It matters. Players can and have played only for themselves and lack hustle when it doesn't concern them. Alfonso Soriano is a prime example.
The Rays won the AL East in 2008. Their payroll is quite small, so not sure what you were going at with that one. The Jays, your own country's team, challenge the AL East in the 1st half for the past few years. If they weren't injured all the time, that team could have lasted longer. Their starting rotation is full of 3-4 kids under 25 who have already thrown some monster games.
I agree, if you have all that money, you should be the best team. However, the Yankees losing 8 in a row proves that money isn't as important as everyone says. You need to spend it wisely.
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