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Topic   Spontaneously bought a 65" OLED TV on Friday. My thoughts so far.

Chad
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21-Feb(#1)
I finally finished my PS3 backlog so I've been playing a bit more PS4 recently, and just started on Skyrim. Skyrim is the first game where it felt like my 50" plasma was too small and too dark but didn't really consider buying a tv, just sort of a thought in the back of my head.

I was at Best Buy to pick up a USB splitter (yay going on a full year of working remote) and saw they had the LG 65CX OLED for only $1999. Started doing some googling, find out it is the OLED I want. Somewhere between thinking my plasma was too small and dark and seeing the OLED at 65" at a price point I could almost swallow... But, Best Buy is rarely the best buy so I go to Costco, it's $1950 there. The hunt is on. After tax that is still over $2k. Under $2k after tax and I'm in business.

Then go to Video Only, walk in with one of them right at the entry with the sign "Now only $1799!" on it. Salesman asks if he can help me, I say yep, that's the one I need right there, ring me up. He goes oh, you interested in the CX? We've got them on sale for only $1799. If you've checked out pricing everywhere, even online, you know this is the best. I go yep, I'm already sold. Ring me up. He pauses for a few moments, blinks, looks at me like wtf, this is the easiest sale that has ever happened, then customer service turns on and he happily rings me up. I have to go home to get my 4runner, but am back in a jiffy.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...

Previous TV is a Panasonic G15 50" from 2009 bought for $1499 at the same Video Only.

Pros:
Contrast. Obviously the biggest deal with OLED and it does not disappoint. It doesn't have to be fireworks displays, shadows have never been so amazing.
Color is on par with my plasma. Maybe better even, haven't watched any HDR stuff yet. Up until now, I've always felt plasma was in a class of its own. Grasses always look so much more real on my plasma than any LCD/LED i've ever seen. OLED feels the same. And I haven't even calibrated it yet. I am cleaning my place now trying to find my spears and munsil (SP?) bluray.
Much brighter than my plasma. Doesn't get as bright as LEDs/ QLEDs.
Viewing angle. Again, on par with my plasma. Looks great even from like 150*.

Neutral:
Input lag. 13ms. I could wish for better.
Thickness. Not sure what I was hoping for. The panel itself is ridiculously thin, like 1/4". But entire profile is effectively 2" thick, about 1.5" for the electronics, and the HDMI plug has to be taken straight on, which moves you out further. If the primary HDMI input was slanted like the power cord, then it would be a plus. I have it on the stand, anyway. I built my entertainment center to be the right height I like TV's at. I was just expecting the electronics to be even smaller.
Reflection / glare. The screen is glossy with anti-glare coatings. My plasma's glare is much worse, I think it is literally glass. But does have a decent amount of glare or reflection. If you are coming from an LED this will be a big con, probably.

Cons:
Motion blur. This will hopefully go away with changing various settings and calibrating, but so far it has a bit of motion blur. My plasma has zero, zilch, nada. I was expecting none, but I saw blurring on Skyrim when panning the camera really fast I didn't see on my plasma.

So, was it worth it?

Not yet. I haven't seen any HDR or native 4K content. Blurays do look better than on my plasma, but not near the jump it was from a 720p 30" philips CRT HDTV to my 50" plasma.
MrBean
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22-Feb(#2)
Plasma has been, and always will be, the reigning champ. I still have my 50' Panasonic plasma from about 2005 that is running like a champ, and has exceeded various modern TVs (IMHO), sans the weight.
Alaisiagae
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22-Feb(#3)
Interesting read, thank you for posting. When I was researching TVs, the LG CX always came up as the top pick of various review sites for HDR gaming. Try adjusting the settings, that might get rid of the motion blur and reduce the input lag. When I turned my TV's settings from Standard to Game Mode, I saw a reduction in motion blur and other stuff I didn't like. Also you can check with your PS4 to calibrate the HDR settings, and some games let you calibrate them for the individual game, too.

I agree that glare is really annoying. It was one thing I disliked about my new TV compared to the matte screen of my older TV (an IPS panel whose picture, in comparison, was very dark). I have an inset light right in front of the TV, and on my old set it wasn't a problem, but the glare from the new set really made the light interfere with playing. I was able to adjust the cowl/can to redirect the light backwards away from the TV, but it's still noticeable in dark scenes.

Scott
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22-Feb(#4)
Sure it could be better, but 13ms input lag isn't bad at all.
RobotVM
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22-Feb(#5)
I wish I could find one for that price. I have been looking for a while.

RiverCityRansom2
Double Gold Good Trader
22-Feb(#6)
Good luck search for a guide with your specific model TV and pray to god everything you need to calibrate and change is available via the actual in menu settings to fix your motion blur.

Be curious to hear your update in the future to see if you got everything ironed out.

Test the 4k/HDR stuff out via tech demos and such on youtube if you don't have anything local of that resolution with HDR
Sun
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22-Feb(#7)
I got a LG B7A 65" for $1299 at Fry's in 2017 and I've enjoyed it tremendously over the years.

The only thing that is don't like about it is how fragile so feel like it is. I've had to move it a few times and I'm always nervous it'll break in half, lol.
John
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22-Feb(#8)
Chad wrote:
> Thickness. Not sure what I was hoping for. The panel itself is ridiculously thin,
> like 1/4". But entire profile is effectively 2" thick, about 1.5" for the electronics,
> and the HDMI plug has to be taken straight on, which moves you out further. If the
> primary HDMI input was slanted like the power cord, then it would be a plus.

It has side HDMI ports too, right? Is there a reason why you need to use the primary HDMI as opposed to one of the angled ones?

Just curious. yes
metsfan718
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22-Feb(#9)
I had a C6 65 for a bit. Sold that on ebay local pickup. Put it towards a LG C8 77 almost 3 years ago. Spent more than I would like to admit. But it's still in my living room.

I tend to baby my OLED quite a bit to prevent burn in. Any static image that's on too long I turn off my TV.

So far so good with that. I probably have almost 5K hours on my C8 now. No burn in whatsoever.
Chad
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22-Feb(#10)
John wrote:
> Chad wrote:
>> Thickness. Not sure what I was hoping for. The panel itself is ridiculously thin,
>> like 1/4". But entire profile is effectively 2" thick, about 1.5" for the electronics,
>> and the HDMI plug has to be taken straight on, which moves you out further. If
> the
>> primary HDMI input was slanted like the power cord, then it would be a plus.
>
> It has side HDMI ports too, right? Is there a reason why you need to use the primary
> HDMI as opposed to one of the angled ones?
>
> Just curious. yes
>

Yes, but my HDMI from my receiver is too short to reach them. I tried to connect in there and then forgot they existed when it didnt reach and i was writing this lol.

Chad
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22-Feb(#11)
Sun wrote:
> The only thing that is don't like about it is how fragile so feel like it is. I've
> had to move it a few times and I'm always nervous it'll break in half, lol.

That is a big thing as well. I don't think I will ever move it solo again. My plasma I have moved dozens of times and never worried about it breaking.
Sun
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22-Feb(#12)
Chad wrote:
> Sun wrote:
>> The only thing that is don't like about it is how fragile so feel like it is.
> I've
>> had to move it a few times and I'm always nervous it'll break in half, lol.
>
> That is a big thing as well. I don't think I will ever move it solo again. My plasma
> I have moved dozens of times and never worried about it breaking.

I've definitely never moved it solo.
Archer
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22-Feb(#13)
This just reminded me how much I miss my old Panasonic Plasma. Best damn TV I've ever owned.
Scott
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22-Feb(#14)
Archer wrote:
> This just reminded me how much I miss my old Panasonic Plasma. Best damn TV I've
> ever owned.

Every time there's a tv thread, somebody mentions plasma and I remember how much I miss my Pansonic plasma too :(
SublimeFan
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22-Feb(#15)
Buy this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...

Documentation on how to use it is available at their website.

Thank me later.
Finn
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23-Feb(#16)
I used my sister's Panasonic Plasma for about a year great TV, but pwhen I went with a Panasonic 4k set I noticed a HUGE difference. I was playing Diablo 2 alot at the time and noticed way more vibrant colors on the 4k set. HDR was pretty huge. Sisters took the TV back after, still uses it today damn thing is a tank... But does have some burn in from her 360.
dracula
Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
23-Feb(#17)
Yes. I bought a 50 inch Samsung qn50q80 for 800 bucks on Black Friday last year. The ps4 games look freaking amazing. When you play a game like ghosts of Tsushima or god of war on your tv you will be blown away. Truly a thing to behold

There are going to be a few games that just run better on pc, like Skyrim so you may want to consider a gaming rig as well. In probably 10 years I'll upgrade to 8k and a ps6 but for now this is good.

Chad
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader
23-Feb(#18)
SublimeFan wrote:
>
> Documentation on how to use it is available at their website.
>
> Thank me later.

I've already got this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...

I just need to find it.



Chad
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23-Feb(#19)
RiverCityRansom2 wrote:

> Be curious to hear your update in the future to see if you got everything ironed
> out.
>


Alright, so turn off everything processing feature on the TV and the blur disappears. I watched Mad Max Fury Road on bluray yesterday and it looked incredible. The "texture" option is especially bad, I turned that off on every TV option. If you have the settings all cranked up it gives that LCD/LED "soap opera effect" that is terrible. Anyway, with everything turned off it actually did feel much more cinematic than having watched it on my plasma multiple times.

And the more I'm learning about HDR the more I'm think it is just a negative not even worth using. Correct me if I am wrong on this, but is seems HDR is the TV making the decision on lighting and coloring instead of the director.
RiverCityRansom2
Double Gold Good Trader
* 23-Feb(#20)
Chad wrote:
> RiverCityRansom2 wrote:
>
>> Be curious to hear your update in the future to see if you got everything ironed
>> out.
>>
>
>
> Alright, so turn off everything processing feature on the TV and the blur disappears.
> I watched Mad Max Fury Road on bluray yesterday and it looked incredible. The "texture"
> option is especially bad, I turned that off on every TV option. If you have the settings
> all cranked up it gives that LCD/LED "soap opera effect" that is terrible. Anyway,
> with everything turned off it actually did feel much more cinematic than having watched
> it on my plasma multiple times.
>
> And the more I'm learning about HDR the more I'm think it is just a negative not
> even worth using. Correct me if I am wrong on this, but is seems HDR is the TV making
> the decision on lighting and coloring instead of the director.

Its depends if its HDR content and how your TV is handling that amongst other things (what all features can you turn off completely).If you have newer modern content HDR should be a plus not a negative. But I guess its all up to personal preference. If its not modern content that supports HDR I could see potentially where it may mess with the colors or give it a unnatural look.

OMG that soap opera, smooth motion effect drives me off the wall. Its 99% of the time on by default. Been at peoples houses they have it on(since they do not play with any settings on their TV besides switching HDMI inputs) and it gives me a massive headache. To me its fun to play with turning on and off and using it in short bursts but not to have on 100% of the time. Ill ask do you have smooth motion or fast motion enabled on your tv? "What's that?" - Oh boy. Ill ask them if they ever get headaches or that too so it doesn't sound like me just wanting to be OCD and mess with their TV. Then teach them how to turn it on and off if they like the effect.
Sun
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23-Feb(#21)
Motion Smoothing (soap opera-effect) is only to be used in specific scenarios IMO. One of those is for B&M stores trying to sell you their fancy TVs. The other is for sports.

I borrowed Tenet on 4K Blu-Ray a few months ago and played it on my LG B7A through the PS5. The motion smoothing was on by default. We watched the opening opera scene with motion smoothing on and it just looks off and not like a real movie. I had to play around with the settings to make the picture look more "normal" or "traditional".

If I was watching something like Life or Planet Earth (or other BBC documentaries), I would keep it on.
RiverCityRansom2
Double Gold Good Trader
27-Feb(#22)
Sun wrote:
> Motion Smoothing (soap opera-effect) is only to be used in specific scenarios IMO.
> One of those is for B&M stores trying to sell you their fancy TVs. The other is
> for sports.
>
> I borrowed Tenet on 4K Blu-Ray a few months ago and played it on my LG B7A through
> the PS5. The motion smoothing was on by default. We watched the opening opera scene
> with motion smoothing on and it just looks off and not like a real movie. I had
> to play around with the settings to make the picture look more "normal" or "traditional".
>
> If I was watching something like Life or Planet Earth (or other BBC documentaries),
> I would keep it on.

Most of those settings are trickery to make their set look different from another set, sort of like a dog being cute and barking in one cage and the next dog over sleeping.

I equate alot of the settings to like a top fuel dragster going all out for a quarter mile race. Its all for a specific event, everythings turned on and boosted and thats for the demo or initial impressions. Each brand TV seemingly has their own demo now unless its at a certain store where they are playing the same content thru all the TV's at the same time.

Get that %#@ home and 9/10 times you'll realize immediately its tough for you to get the same quality picture as the demo was showing. Especially if it was taylor made(samsung,lg,tech demo) 4K HDR 60fps content.
citizen_zane
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4-Mar(#23)
Chad wrote:
> I finally finished my PS3 backlog

So far, this is the only part of this thread that I have read, yet I am already slapping you with a positive because of this. I can only dream of achieving this feat before I die.
Chad
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6-Mar(#24)
citizen_zane wrote:
> Chad wrote:
>> I finally finished my PS3 backlog
>
> So far, this is the only part of this thread that I have read, yet I am already slapping
> you with a positive because of this. I can only dream of achieving this feat before I
> die.

Full disclosure, anything that was sealed I didn't open. So there are still like 15-20 sealed PS3 games. But I've played everything that is open at least.
Sam
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10-Mar(#25)
I read the whole thing but i'm still just wondering why you weren't sure what you were hoping for on thickness
Chad
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10-Mar(#26)
Basically I forgot about the electronics needed other than just the panel. Part of my mind was thinking this would be basically like hanging a poster on the wall but its not that at all.

Topic   Spontaneously bought a 65" OLED TV on Friday. My thoughts so far.