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2-Oct-2019(#1)
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Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
PizzaTheHutt
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15-Feb-2022(#181)
205 Live is dead. Tonight begins that spin-off show for NXT they were planning before the pandemic ruined everything. NXT: Level Up is being taped tonight.

theJaw
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15-Feb-2022(#182)
I had a literal no idea 205 Live was even still a thing. I assumed it got nuked when the Cruiserweight title started showing up more on NXT.
PizzaTheHutt
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15-Feb-2022(#183)
It should have been nuked a long time ago when half the remaining cruiserweight roster was let go. For like the past 6 months the show no longer was just about cruiserweights anymore, they should have renamed it even if just temporarily.

PizzaTheHutt
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18-Feb-2022(#184)
Looks like WWE is doing a Saturday Night's Main Event in April. But no mention on if it's going to be televised or streaming on Peacock, or just a specially branded house show.
https://www.wwe.com/saturday-nights-main-event-0
razeak
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21-Feb-2022(#185)
My 4 year old wrestled his first 2 matches last weekend. He went 1-1. The point is, after his loss, he stopped to raise a hand to the crowd like he just lost a loser retires match. He had this solemn look on is face and addressed all four sides of the arena haha. It was epic. He held the crowd in the palm of his hand for about 5 minutes haha.
lazarro
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23-Feb-2022(#187)
So what are the odds lesnar wins vs reigns at wrestle mania. I smell a rat theory where lesnar wins but by disqualification of heyman helping him. Maybe I wrong but I don’t see the heavyweight belts being unified at this point

Plus this vince s pet project to screw up anyway

theJaw
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* 23-Feb-2022(#188)
I'd say in all likelihood, Lesnar will win. WWE has made it clear they don't care to build new stars when it comes to moving the title from one guy to the other so they aren't saving a Reigns loss for that, and Brock has been built as a mega-face in this feud so it'd make sense for him to be the one to end Reigns' super long title reign.

That said, it SHOULD be Reigns. They should stick to Reigns until this "Head of the Table" shtick wears off and they've done a surprisingly good job of keeping it strong since he returned as a heel.
PizzaTheHutt
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23-Feb-2022(#189)
PizzaTheHutt
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24-Feb-2022(#190)
Claudio Castagnoli on Dynamite when?

theJaw
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24-Feb-2022(#191)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> Claudio Castagnoli on Dynamite when?
>
>

oh fudging YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

This gets me more hyped up than 90% of the folks who have gone to/could possibly go to AEW (or literally anywhere they'll be allowed to thrive).
lazarro
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25-Feb-2022(#192)
I was wondering what happened to cesaro

shadyfozzie
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25-Feb-2022(#193)
Cesaro is the most underrated WWE guy ever.. He's awesome.. reminds me of a jacked Jason Statham... the Swiss Superman!!!
theJaw
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25-Feb-2022(#194)
Desperately hoping for a reunion with Chris Hero (formerly Kassius Ohno for you WWE folks) so they can once again be one of my top 5 favorite tag teams, Kings of Wrestling. Their ROH run in 2010-2011 is thing of legend imo.
Tad
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26-Feb-2022(#195)
Vince is going to be on Pat McAfees show and there's a rumor they're going to have a match at WrestleMania. lol
I want to see this happen actually. lol


PizzaTheHutt
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26-Feb-2022(#196)
I like Pat, but I don't know if he's capable of leading Vince at his current age through anything more than a 5 minute comedy match. If anything maybe he could set up something with Austin Theory, even though they're on different brands we know WWE only cares about that when it's convenient to them.


Oh, and Sunny was arrested...again.
https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/wwe-hall-of-fame...
theJaw
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* 26-Feb-2022(#197)
WWE is promoting the Lesnar/Reigns match as a unification match now, so brands may not even matter at this point unless they just plan on having the unified champ show up on both shows.

Tbh I always wanted that to be the case over the "two world champions" thing. If someone's the world champion, have them be THE world champion and work programs on both shows, brands or not.
PizzaTheHutt
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26-Feb-2022(#198)
Yes, the one Undisputed champion was the way to go. I liked that about the tag team titles too back in the original brand split, but especially now it's not like they really have enough tag teams to really justify two separate titles.

But if that is what they end up doing, I don't expect Brock to win. He's on a limited schedule (even though for the past few months you almost wouldn't know that) so it might be asking too much out of him to have him be on both shows defending the title, unless he drops it the next month at Backlash.
lazarro
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28-Feb-2022(#199)
Apparently after the unification men title bout
Wwe still wants a champion on each brand cause of the tv deals on fox and USA

Nice going wwe

Might as well be have the match end in double count out or disqualification

Missed out on dynamite last week perhaps I can catch this week

What’s with vince getting in the ring anyways
Oh well
theJaw
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28-Feb-2022(#200)
BTE has made silly jokes about Cody's "departure" for like 3 weeks now. Makes me feel like this whole thing is a work big time. This week the Bucks shot footage in front of WWE headquarters in Stamford and then Tony Schiavone "interviewed" for the EVP job, and last week the Young Bucks had an intro where they were misdirecting the viewers into thinking that they were going to talk about Cody leaving but it was really all about the airlines losing Matt Jackson's shoes lol. Then Cutler is like "this isn't about Cody?" and they ask "what's going on with Cody?"

Like... obviously anything could happen, but these videos seem to confirm that the Bucks and Cody are at least still on joking terms, and it seems like a weird thing to do if Cody was really going to WWE. But we'll see how it pans out.
akfa
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1-Mar-2022(#201)
Found the Walmart exclusive Sting figure today just chilling, sweet!

Things I'm randomly thinking about lately, and I say this as an AEW mark. I love Page, was there for his win at Full Gear, it was one of the best storyline culminations. HOWEVER, things seem like they simmered since then. We don't see him doing much every week, he did have the fun matches with Danielson, he did beat Archer, and he's got Cole coming up, but compared to Jericho/Mox/Omega, the "World Title" feels a little less....visible? Maybe I'm just being picky.

The Mox/Danielson angle has been so cool, really love the promos and the build up. Moxley is on another level back, sober. Also, Jade has grown on me quite a bit. Yeah her matches aren't too clean, but I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt there. She's improving every week, she's got the goods for the long haul I think. Wardlow? Is he going to be a superstar? Is this a flash in the pan popularity? How can AEW manage to get both him and Keith Lee over in that ladder match at Revolution? Just fun random things I've been thinking about. Also- MJF got me hooked on using the word "Mid" for a lot of things for fun
theJaw
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* 1-Mar-2022(#202)
Neat, some talking points. @akfa

So to be fair, the AEW World title, even on Jericho/Mox/Omega, never consistently "headlined" shows other than the PPVs. So when it shows up midway through a Dynamite, it's to be expected. Imo it's just that Hangman is the least "proven" of the 4 AEW World champs so far, you know? Like... he's the first "homegrown" guy to win that title... dude never even won the ROH World title. So their treatment of the AEW World title, which has never been as "spotlighty" as it could have been, sort of does a disservice to Page. He's still putting on incredible matches (better than any Jericho or Mox had as champ tbh), but they now need to shift to making the World title storylines THEEEEE storylines, you know?

Otherwise:
-Mox/Danielson is prob the most interesting thing on the show right now. I do like the Page/Cole (and all the Elite) stuff too. Mox is looking great out there.
-Jade rules. Took her a while, but she OWNS the spotlight when she's out there even if she's not as good in-ring as she's DEFINITELY going to be.
-Wardlow is well on his way for sure. The pop when he finally turns on MJF (Revolution?) is going to be insane. If he's just a flash in the pan right now, they can ignite that flash into a full-on superstar explosion if they play their cards right.
-As much as my gut reaction tells me otherwise, Wardlow doesn't need that ladder match win more than Keith Lee. Give Lee the "brass ring" and build him that way, get him back to the superstar status we all know he should be at right away. Meanwhile keep letting Wardlow simmer until the natural status he'll gain from the story they've been building with MJF.
-And MJF fudging rules haha
akfa
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* 1-Mar-2022(#203)
theJaw wrote:
> Neat, some talking points. @akfa
>
> So to be fair, the AEW World title, even on Jericho/Mox/Omega, never consistently
> "headlined" shows other than the PPVs. So when it shows up midway through a Dynamite,
> it's to be expected. Imo it's just that Hangman is the least "proven" of the 4 AEW
> World champs so far, you know? Like... he's the first "homegrown" guy to win that
> title... dude never even won the ROH World title. So their treatment of the AEW World
> title, which has never been as "spotlighty" as it could have been, sort of does a
> disservice to Page. He's still putting on incredible matches (better than any Jericho
> or Mox had as champ tbh), but they now need to shift to making the World title storylines
> THEEEEE storylines, you know?
>
> Otherwise:
> -Mox/Danielson is prob the most interesting thing on the show right now. I do like
> the Page/Cole (and all the Elite) stuff too. Mox is looking great out there.
> -Jade rules. Took her a while, but she OWNS the spotlight when she's out there even
> if she's not as good in-ring as she's DEFINITELY going to be.
> -Wardlow is well on his way for sure. The pop when he finally turns on MJF (Revolution?)
> is going to be insane. If he's just a flash in the pan right now, they can ignite
> that flash into a full-on superstar explosion if they play their cards right.
> -As much as my gut reaction tells me otherwise, Wardlow doesn't need that ladder
> match win more than Keith Lee. Give Lee the "brass ring" and build him that way,
> get him back to the superstar status we all know he should be at right away. Meanwhile
> keep letting Wardlow simmer until the natural status he'll gain from the story they've
> been building with MJF.
> -And MJF fudging rules haha

Good points, I think I was just so used to seeing Kenny out there almost weekly, or at least it seemed that way. Not necessarily wrestling, but always popping up, walking out, whatever it is. Maybe I got spoiled by Kenny, but yeah it is good to share the TV time when the roster is jam packed. When Page is out there, he's on point.

Also- I think I saw a list of top 10 AEW matches of 2021, and Pac was in a good percentage of them lol, the dude can wrestle

Edit- and back on Wardlow, the BOO's when Spears told him NO MORE POWER BOMBS! was epic. Wardlow gets some of the biggest crowd reactions right now, totally deserves it too.
theJaw
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1-Mar-2022(#204)
@akfa Hell yah, they are teasing the crowd SO well with Wardlow right now. Spears is doing a lot to help that out too... every time he comes in to "steal the spotlight" and hit a dude Wardlow just destroyed with a chair is genius, with Wardlow's "dude wtf" reaction each time. It's going to be so satisfying to see him murder the Pinnacle lol


PAC should be world champ anywhere he goes. I honestly don't expect him to win the AEW title any time soon but if there's one dude I'd say is underrated in all of wrestling, it's PAC. I still remember the match I saw with him vs. Matt Sydal on a UK ROH card that fudgein blew me away. He's only gotten better.

Also, Page is on the show consistently, but admittedly they haven't made the title programs the centerpiece of the shows the way they did with Omega. On that note, I agree they need to step it up. Page is legit one of the top 10 in the world right now, and they need to show that off more. Going back to my own experiences, I watched Adam Page vs. Frankie Kazarian in a BRUTAL strap match live when ROH came to my area for Best in the World 2017 (also witnessed Cody win the ROH title that night), and my god, Page was untouchable on that card. He is such a great wrestler and AEW did great with him up to this point, and is still doing right by him, but they definitely do need to add a little extra "oomph" to his reign. I think this feud with Cole is designed to do exactly that.
razeak
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2-Mar-2022(#205)
Buzz Sawyer's brother lives a few miles from me. He has a mullet.
PizzaTheHutt
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2-Mar-2022(#206)
Tony "Big Money" Khan has purchased Ring of Honor
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/14991889690614...

theJaw
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2-Mar-2022(#207)
Tony Khan just opened Dynamite by announcing he now owns Ring of Honor.

Not entirely sure what that means for ROH moving forward but I am very gosh darn hopeful. That rules.
theJaw
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2-Mar-2022(#208)
lol @PizzaTheHutt just seeing your post now.

I feel like ROH was probably "Moderate Money" as opposed to "big" but I feel ya haha. Didn't expect that announcement.
PizzaTheHutt
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3-Mar-2022(#209)
Vince on The Pat McAfee show today (slight delay, Vince is still on his way to the studio). I have a feeling it ends in a blowup, because none of Vince's yes men can tell him Adam Cole already did that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFjMuAiFiZ4

theJaw
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3-Mar-2022(#210)
lol yah. Not watching but this is likely gonna lead toward a Mania angle... just hope they give Vince a proxy like Austin Theory or something. McMahon should 100% not be wrestling in 2022.
theJaw
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* 3-Mar-2022(#211)
Also WWE terminated its agreement with its Russian broadcaster today. I'd like to praise this decision, but it's likely just due to the US sanctions. If Vince gave a fudge about injustices, he wouldn't be accepting money from a government who has been waging war with Yemen for like 7 years.

Still, it's the correct move. Unfortunately, the sect of the Russian population who believe nothing is the matter because their government control the narrative will likely start to figure crap out a lot quicker when they realize the rest of the planet is just about done doing business with Russia at the moment.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 3-Mar-2022(#212)
Pat was offered a match at WrestleMania against "a worthy opponent".

It's not easy to find the right volume to listen to this at. Vince talks too low and Pat talks too loud.
theJaw
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* 3-Mar-2022(#213)
Some buzz going around that Cody Rhodes is going to spearhead ROH, some assuming as the "figurehead" or as just one of the top guys as presented on TV.

If so, not only could they pull off the "two brands blatantly owned by the same entity" situation that WWE originally wanted when they acquired WCW (that then ultimately turned into Raw vs Smackdown), but they would have also pulled off one of the most wild works of all time.

Apparently internal sources at WWE leaked that up until Dynamite aired, they believed Tony Khan had only bought a Japanese tape library that wasn't NJPW, and that they were caught off guard when the announcement was made. There have been some claims lately that WWE wanted the ROH tape library to help create documentaries for stars like Rollins, Owens, Zayn, etc. If AEW/ROH/Khan orchestrated this whole Cody Rhodes thing as a work, and have it tie into the ROH situation... that'd be legendary.

This is just stuff that I've seen theorized about with Sean Ross Sapp sort of playing into it with a cryptic tweet, so who knows what the actual plan is... but this would be wild.
PizzaTheHutt
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4-Mar-2022(#214)
Yeah, I read Cody and possibly Regal being put in charge of ROH and that it'd be used almost like AEW's version of NXT or something like that. I wonder if they will take advantage of the Honor Club service

PizzaTheHutt
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4-Mar-2022(#215)
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lazarro
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4-Mar-2022(#216)
Hell in the cell coming to Windy City in Chicago oh what a rush
theJaw
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6-Mar-2022(#217)
Anyone watching tonight?

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PizzaTheHutt
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6-Mar-2022(#218)
I'll likely only be able to catch the first hour, but if anything really good/unexpected happens I'll probably download it after.

PizzaTheHutt
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6-Mar-2022(#219)
Was browsing through YouTube last night and this popped up in my recommendations. I had never heard of this game before. Even with how bad it looks, I still kind of want to play it just to say I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1i2JJvgCLc
theJaw
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6-Mar-2022(#220)
@PizzaTheHutt check out this book “Wrestling with Pixels”. I dunno if the color version is available in print anymore (it was a kickstarter) but it is available digitally/on Kindle.

There are tons of games I’ve never heard of in there, pretty fun read.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hardcore-Gaming-101-Prese...
theJaw
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7-Mar-2022(#221)
Revolution was worth it for CM Punk's entrance alone. ROH style baaaby.

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