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Lunar
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* 21-Mar-2017(#1)
Want to discuss about @Jeff's awesome steals thread but don't want to interrupt the flow? Feel free to discuss anything about the thread here.

Let's go. Feel free to rip someone a new one here.

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* 28-Mar-2017(#161)
Has he answered that question directly (why not offer a refund if it'd be easy to resell?)? I'm kind of curious if he has another explanation.



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28-Mar-2017(#162)
Cuz I'm a hustler baby, and I think u should know.....
Lunar
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28-Mar-2017(#163)
whitefire wrote:
> Has he answered that question directly (why not offer a refund if it'd be easy to
> resell?)? I'm kind of curious if he has another explanation.
>

I brought up this once before:

Lunar wrote:
> I understand why people don't want to get involved. I'm not trying to start a fight,
> just some back and forth logic debate.
>
> Here's another brain teaser for you: if your bundle is truly worth over $150, then
> isn't it profit for you to take it back at $100?
>
> Why refuse a return?
>

Bostonitalian88 wrote:
> I'm not taking it personally and am really just viewing it as healthy back and forth.
> I don't think anyone is looking to be a keyboard warrior that's just lame.
>
> To answer the question that's kinda the point of a mystery box, it's a gamble some
> would love it some wouldn't , but just because you don't like it doesn't mean you
> can just be like oh hey give me my money back. Theoretically , someone who would've
> enjoyed it could've taken it at the time and we wouldn't be here.


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SirConnery
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28-Mar-2017(#164)
So public discourse is healthy as long as it doesn't paint him in a bad light? That reminds me of someone...
Lunar
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28-Mar-2017(#165)
What I would love to see is Boston steps up and apologize and do whatever(as long as it's fairly reasonable) it takes to clear these bad apples of mystery bundles.

Give KOG a partial refund, give @FrictionPin a return.

I didn't have any previous bad blood with Boston, so this was strictly calling someone out gone overboard.

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DarkLink
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28-Mar-2017(#166)
I was so close on pulling the trigger on the $100 gamecube bundle....

but kinda glad I didnt.

Hope all this can get settle and Boston does the right thing.. just something to show that he can see where they are coming from.


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The_Pope
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28-Mar-2017(#167)
The $100 GameCube bundle was probably where the money was.
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28-Mar-2017(#168)
The_Pope wrote:
> The $100 GameCube bundle was probably where the money was.

No doubt. Just like the gambler on a losing streak that is due.

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The_Pope
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28-Mar-2017(#169)
I think some of these mystery boxes are even worse than the one Kevin Spacey gave to Brad Pitt in Se7en.
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30-Mar-2017(#170)
I FOUND IT.

TO THOSE WHO READ ME HERE AND CRINGE: GET TO WORK
GreenCard200
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30-Mar-2017(#171)
That Sega bundle is unacceptable. It looks like your standard variety crapty Craigslist listing.
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31-Mar-2017(#172)
The NES mystery lot I got from JeffNES was Bionic Commando, The Simpsons: Bart Meets Radioactive Man, Gradius, Gauntlet 2, SMB3, Castlequest, and Yoshi for $15.



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DiamondDave
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31-Mar-2017(#173)
Steal
Lunar
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31-Mar-2017(#174)
That may have been a $100 NES box.

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31-Mar-2017(#175)
Lunar wrote:
> That may have been a $100 NES box.
>
>

What do you mean?



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SilverOwl
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31-Mar-2017(#176)
whitefire wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> That may have been a $100 NES box.
>>
>>
>
> What do you mean?
>
>

i think he was saying, that, that could have been a $100 boston nes mystery box
Jeff
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1-Apr-2017(#177)
Steal



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DarkLink
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1-Apr-2017(#178)
Do we have any idea when this might be back up?

if not.. then I was going to just tell you guys my SNES game bundle I was saving.


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NatGasHole
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1-Apr-2017(#179)
Tell us anyways. Then I'll know if I need to find an awesome steal if I were to be the winning dibber.

Not your typical oilman
Lunar
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2-Apr-2017(#180)
So I guess Boston robbed and ran. Wow! No effort made to make it up and no remorse.

Noted and filtered.

Anyway, so @Jeff, gonna restart the thread?

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* 2-Apr-2017(#181)
Don't, I'm still broke and gameless.
GreenCard200
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2-Apr-2017(#182)
Lunar wrote:
> So I guess Boston robbed and ran. Wow! No effort made to make it up and no remorse.
>
>
> Noted and filtered.
>
> Anyway, so @Jeff, gonna restart the thread?
>
>

You need to stop reprimanding him for being too generous.
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2-Apr-2017(#183)
Lunar wrote:
> So I guess Boston robbed and ran. Wow! No effort made to make it up and no remorse.

Also, to be fair, I think anyone buying a mystery box has to have at least SOME sort of expectation that there's a real possibility they're gonna get crap on.
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2-Apr-2017(#184)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> So I guess Boston robbed and ran. Wow! No effort made to make it up and no remorse.
>
> Also, to be fair, I think anyone buying a mystery box has to have at least SOME sort
> of expectation that there's a real possibility they're gonna get crap on.

Yeah, hasn't anyone ever seen Let's Make a Deal?
The_Pope
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2-Apr-2017(#185)
@Jeff, yeah let's get this going again. I have a Turbo Graphx 16 bundle I'd like to unload.
Lunar
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* 2-Apr-2017(#186)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> So I guess Boston robbed and ran. Wow! No effort made to make it up and no remorse.
>
> Also, to be fair, I think anyone buying a mystery box has to have at least SOME sort
> of expectation that there's a real possibility they're gonna get crap on.

Nope, it was supposed to be a "steal" remember?

I suppose the irony is that it was a steal, just not for the recipient.

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2-Apr-2017(#187)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> So I guess Boston robbed and ran. Wow! No effort made to make it up and no remorse.
>
> Also, to be fair, I think anyone buying a mystery box has to have at least SOME sort
> of expectation that there's a real possibility they're gonna get crap on.

In contrast, you have Lunar's mystery boxes.

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DarkLink
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2-Apr-2017(#188)
Almost would say. Make this a private / exclusive thread.

But the sad part. How do we know who allowed in and stuff like that.

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SirConnery
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2-Apr-2017(#189)
Make it a buy in? Who knows.
whitefire
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2-Apr-2017(#190)
That's actually not a bad idea. If it is deemed that you have pulled a fast one, any member may call shenanigans. If you are convicted of the "crime" by a 2/3 vote, you forfeit your "deposit." However, a deposit may also be taken back at any time as long as it's at least 48 hours after your last steal.



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SilverOwl
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2-Apr-2017(#191)
that would kinda be against the purpose of this all tho. if people are thinking you are trying to pull a fast one, your steal will go unclaimed, and that will speak for itself. everybody agrees that the biggest issue was the mystery boxes, and now that those are no longer allowed, that wont be an issue.
whitefire
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2-Apr-2017(#192)
NightOwl wrote:
> if people are thinking you
> are trying to pull a fast one, your steal will go unclaimed

Let me give an example of how I think it's relevant.

Dude A pulls a fast one, Dude B still wants his crap, so he steals, Dude B now offers junk, Dude C dibs and then offers junk, and so on, and so on. Now the thread sucks, and someone has to dib on garbage and then offer up gold to save the thread.





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3-Apr-2017(#193)
NightOwl wrote:
> that would kinda be against the purpose of this all tho. if people are thinking you
> are trying to pull a fast one, your steal will go unclaimed, and that will speak
> for itself. everybody agrees that the biggest issue was the mystery boxes, and
> now that those are no longer allowed, that wont be an issue.

Not really, probably half the dibs were mercy dibs in my opinion.
SirConnery
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3-Apr-2017(#194)
I'd like a rule of no free items. Say $1 if you absolutely have to.
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3-Apr-2017(#195)
Groo wrote:
> whitefire wrote:
>> That's actually not a bad idea. If it is deemed that you have pulled a fast one,
>> any member may call shenanigans. If you are convicted of the "crime" by a 2/3
> vote,
>> you forfeit your "deposit." However, a deposit may also be taken back at any time
>> as long as it's at least 48 hours after your last steal.
>>
>>
>
> What about instead of 48 hours, how about until that months steal thread is done,
> would also avoid drive bys
>
> Also would $100 be a fair amount? Not sure what everyone would have in mind but if
> its a $100 limit should it be a $100 deposit
>
> What about instead we pool all our money and buy an island and get beer, tan and
> play life size Super Dodge Ball, this is just a thought for the future
>
>

I don't think a lot of people could afford to let 100 just sit like that, I know I couldn't, an amount that high would turn it into the thing a lot of people voiced about it becoming a club for the same 4 or 5 people just trading. maybe 40-50

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3-Apr-2017(#196)
whitefire wrote:
> NightOwl wrote:
>> if people are thinking you
>> are trying to pull a fast one, your steal will go unclaimed
>
> Let me give an example of how I think it's relevant.
>
> Dude A pulls a fast one, Dude B still wants his crap, so he steals, Dude B now offers
> junk, Dude C dibs and then offers junk, and so on, and so on. Now the thread sucks,
> and someone has to dib on garbage and then offer up gold to save the thread.
>


What?! That would never happen!!!!
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3-Apr-2017(#197)
I'm working on updated rules and will get it up and running soon. Wrestlemania Week has been occupying my time



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DiamondDave
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3-Apr-2017(#198)
suggest rule #7: no funny business
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3-Apr-2017(#199)
You're in luck, I don't think deposits were ever going to make it past the suggestion stage.
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* 3-Apr-2017(#200)
Any other suggestions for keeping the quality of items high and discounted range a slower drop?

The biggest flaw in the original thread was people pocketing the discounted value and offering lower discount too quickly.

It lasted no more than 2-3 dibs before we hit bottom again.

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* 3-Apr-2017(#201)
Yeah, throw out the Mystery Box garbage and put a floor as well as a value ceiling. I cannot believe that people participating just CANNOT come up with an item worth $30-40, that the best they can do is spend $10 on funny money and sell it for $4 or grab three PSX CD Only titles and give it away.

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