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slugger
 
| | #1 posted June 27, 2009 at 8:36pm (EST) |
Until July 11th, it is only $49.99 (for the premium edition)! I just pre-ordered mine through newegg. It's gonne be sweet. I had the beta for a little while and I liked it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... |
Foxhack
 
| | #2 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:36am (EST) |
Turns out a lot of retailers are going to be doing this. Huh.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-or...
I wish I had the $50 to spare right now. |
guncrazy90
  
| | #3 posted June 28, 2009 at 3:40am (EST) |
Kit_Silva wrote:
> Turns out a lot of retailers are going to be doing this. Huh.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-or...
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> I wish I had the $50 to spare right now.
Pre-order on Amazon
They don't charge your credit card until the item ships
Amazon has a great cancelation policy too! If it hasn't shipped, you can cancel it instantly without any problems 
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slugger
| | #4 posted June 28, 2009 at 9:38am (EST) |
same with newegg. my order is "on hold" until it ships |
willyum
  
| | #5 posted June 28, 2009 at 2:28pm (EST) |
Happy birthday Kit_Silva!
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ultima_gamer
BTRs
| | #6 posted June 28, 2009 at 4:36pm (EST) |
I just got an email from MicroCenter. They have a deal going on right now (ends today I believe) where you go in and give your contact info and they give you a coupon to use to get Windows 7 for 40 (home) or 80/90 (Business). |
VastoLorde
| | #7 posted June 29, 2009 at 11:45am (EST) |
Do they have the full version also? How does the upgrade work?
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slugger
| | #8 posted June 29, 2009 at 1:12pm (EST) |
I don't think the full version is on sale. You need XP or Vista I believe to use the upgrade. |
VastoLorde
| | #9 posted June 29, 2009 at 1:41pm (EST) |
The thing is that I am running Vista 32 bit and I want to go with Windows 7 64 Bit. I dont think you can upgrade from a 32 bit OS to a 64 Bit OS.
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slugger
| | #10 posted June 29, 2009 at 1:44pm (EST) |
Korvenus wrote:
> The thing is that I am running Vista 32 bit and I want to go with
> Windows 7 64 Bit. I dont think you can upgrade from a 32 bit OS to
> a 64 Bit OS.
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>
You're right http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/hel... |
VastoLorde
| #11 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:30pm (EST)
edited June 29, 2009 at 2:31pm (EST) |
So basically I need to the Full Version of Windows 7 64 bit? What if I install the Windows 7 RC 64 Bit and use it till Windows 7 releases? Will I then be able to just use the Upgrade Version since I already would be running Windows 7 RC 64 Bit?
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DoctorFunk
| | #12 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:33pm (EST) |
You can't upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit, but couldn't you just install Windows 7 64 bit as a clean install? These are upgrades but they still allow clean installs. |
VastoLorde
| #13 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:41pm (EST)
edited June 29, 2009 at 2:44pm (EST) |
Oh, I did not know you can do a clean install of an upgrade. If thats the case then why is there even a Full Version? Also what are the differences between Home and Professional?
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oulzac
| | #14 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:43pm (EST) |
these upgrades do not allow clean installs, that is why they are so cheap, these are upgrade version only from XP or Vista, the full retail copy's that will allow clean installs will start at $149.
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When I don't get my bath, I take it out on the slaves. |
VastoLorde
| | #15 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:45pm (EST) |
Ok, then I will just have to buy the Full Version. What are the differences between Home and Professional?
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oulzac
| | #16 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:50pm (EST) |
Home is still the same old home as it has been with XP and Vista just the basic OS, the normal version, and Pro is the version with all the bells and whistles, extra networking tools, ect.
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oulzac
| | #17 posted June 29, 2009 at 2:53pm (EST) |
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
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DoctorFunk
| | #18 posted June 29, 2009 at 3:00pm (EST) |
oulzac wrote:
> these upgrades do not allow clean installs, that is why they are so
> cheap, these are upgrade version only from XP or Vista, the full retail
> copy's that will allow clean installs will start at $149.
>
>
Wrong. At least do a little research before you give false info.
http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-Windo...
At the very bottom of the page
"If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista)."
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millenium_dare
| | #19 posted June 29, 2009 at 3:17pm (EST) |
DoctorFunk wrote:
> You can't upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit, but couldn't you just install
> Windows 7 64 bit as a clean install? These are upgrades but they
> still allow clean installs.
Yes. Even if you have Vista 32-bit, the upgrade versions ship with 32 and 64 bit discs/downloads.
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oulzac
| | #20 posted June 29, 2009 at 3:19pm (EST) |
hmm that's new, that was not a feature as of Friday when I bought it.
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antwaan
 
| #21 posted June 30, 2009 at 5:38pm (EST)
edited June 30, 2009 at 5:45pm (EST) |
so we can upgrade from vista 32bit to 7 64bit right? thats what i want to do... with a clean install too.
oh and if i order it from amazon, my card wont be charged until october 22nd right? if so and if i can upgrade from 32bit i will do this right away. |
slugger
| | #22 posted June 30, 2009 at 5:44pm (EST) |
I don't believe you can with the upgrade edition.... |
antwaan
| | #23 posted June 30, 2009 at 5:47pm (EST) |
i'm probably wrong but the way i understand this is if you do a clean install, it is possible to upgrade from 32 to 64(which i would be doing) but you cant do a straight upgrade from 32 to 64 or vise versa correct? |
oulzac
| | #24 posted June 30, 2009 at 5:50pm (EST) |
millenium_dare wrote:
> DoctorFunk wrote:
>> You can't upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit, but couldn't you just
> install
>> Windows 7 64 bit as a clean install? These are upgrades but they
>> still allow clean installs.
>
> Yes. Even if you have Vista 32-bit, the upgrade versions ship with
> 32 and 64 bit discs/downloads.
>
>
I though only full version came with both, and upgrades were for only one specific.
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millenium_dare
| | #25 posted June 30, 2009 at 6:12pm (EST) |
antwaan wrote:
> i'm probably wrong but the way i understand this is if you do a clean
> install, it is possible to upgrade from 32 to 64(which i would be
> doing) but you cant do a straight upgrade from 32 to 64 or vise versa
> correct?
Yes, you are able to do a clean install of 64-bit by having the Windows 7 upgrade disc check your Vista 32-bit disc. You cannot, however, do an in-place upgrade from Vista 32 to Windows 7 64. This is pretty much confirmed by their FAQ and the Windows Super Site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-or...
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archi...
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langev
| #26 posted June 30, 2009 at 6:25pm (EST)
edited June 30, 2009 at 6:34pm (EST) |
oulzac wrote:
> millenium_dare wrote:
>> DoctorFunk wrote:
> |>> You can't upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit, but couldn't you just
>> install
> |>> Windows 7 64 bit as a clean install? These are upgrades but they
> |>> still allow clean installs.
>>
>> Yes. Even if you have Vista 32-bit, the upgrade versions ship with
>> 32 and 64 bit discs/downloads.
>>
>>
>
> I though only full version came with both, and upgrades were for only
> one specific.
>
>
>
from Microsoft's FAQ
Will I get 32-bit or 64-bit discs?
You’ll get both. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional packaged products include both 32- and 64-bit discs.
...so it sounds like if you want both, then pre-order the discs, not the download? Can anyone confirm that?
From Microsoft's website when selecting the Preorder download: "This product includes both 32-bit and 64-bit versions."
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QCJLo
| #27 posted June 30, 2009 at 8:38pm (EST)
edited June 30, 2009 at 8:41pm (EST) |
I found this information on another message board. I found it very informative.
Frequently Asked Questions:
Q1) When will Windows 7 be released?
A1) Windows 7 comes out on October 22, 2009
Q2) I heard there was a way to get Windows 7 free if I bought a new PC after June 26. Where can I find out about that?
A2) Details can be found HERE
Q3) I have Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. Is there a discounted upgrade option available for that?
A3) No, not at this time
Q4) Can I do a clean install with this disc, or just an upgrade?
A4) According to Paul Thurrott, yes, you can do a clean install with the upgrade version.
LINK
Answer from MSFT. Step-by-Step: Windows 7 Upgrade and Migration LINK
Q5) Which version of Windows 7 is right for me?
A5) A few different sites have details:
Official site: LINK
Wiki: LINK
ZDNet: What's really in each Windows 7 Edition?: LINK
Q6) Can I upgrade my edition of Vista to the edition of Windows 7 that I want?
A6) Check the upgrade matrix here: LINK <<---As of 6/27, this topic is no longer available.
Q7) Can I "upgrade" from Windows Vista Ultimate edition to Windows 7 Home Premium?
A7) No. See the upgrade matrix in answer #6. You will have to perform a clean install
Q8) Can I use this upgrade version of Windows 7 on my XP computer?
A8) Yes, but you would need to back up all your data and then do a clean install rather than installing on top of your XP version.
Q9) Does Windows 7 Professional include Media Center functionality?
A9) Yes
Q10) Do I need to buy a different upgrade DVD if I want the 64-bit version of Windows 7?
A10) No. According to the Microsoft store, the upgrade packages for Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate include both the 32-bit and 64-bit DVD's.
Q11) Can I install this on more than one PC?
A11) No. At this time, there's no information about a multi-PC version of Windows 7 being available at stores.
Q12) Can I upgrade from a 32-bit version of Windows to a 64-bit version of Windows?
A12) No. You cannot perform a direct upgrade, you will have to do a clean install to move from a 32-bit to a 64-bit OS.
Q13) Can I upgrade from Vista Basic to Windows 7?
A13) Yes. Run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor (link below in 'other useful info' section) and it will install an operating system check. Basic can 'upgrade' (in-place 32-bit to 32-bit, no need for 'clean install') to Windows 7 Home Premium or Ultimate. All other versions will require a clean install. So for $50 you can upgrade from Vista Basic to Windows 7 Home Premium for sure.
Q14: How does W7 substantiate previous product ownership during the install process. (especially if you want to do a clean install vs. an upgrade)
A14: You stick in your Windows 7 disc and boot from the disc. During the installation process it will scan your machine for an eligible copy of windows to upgrade. If it finds none, it will prompt you to remove the windows 7 disc and insert a qualifying previous version of windows disc (you must have a full version disc, upgrade discs don't qualify) after setup.exe scans the drive and verifies the previous OS disc is in the drive, then it will prompt you to remove the old version, re-insert the windows 7 disc and will continue the setup process. (Note that you can't use a previous upgrade disk for substantiation purposes - can't upgrade from an upgrade, unless the previous version is installed on the system). (Note #2: This process is not officially confirmed by Microsoft at this time).
Other useful info:
Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor - LINK
Windows 7 Upgrade Matrix - LINK
Windows 7 Premium vs. Professional vs. Ultimate LINK |
RagingShadow07
| | #28 posted July 1, 2009 at 2:04am (EST) |
Went and preordered Win7 Premium off Microsoft's site. They don't charge until the order ships, either. I'm probably going to end up getting an OEM copy of Vista before October 22, and then just upgrade.
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therainstormlord
| | #29 posted July 1, 2009 at 4:06pm (EST) |
So why get Win7 if you have vista already?
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langev
| | #30 posted July 1, 2009 at 4:13pm (EST) |
One reason I am getting it so I can use the XP Mode (available in Professional and Ultimate versions) to run older apps. Sounds like you get an XP license to run Windows XP SP3 in VirtualPC... |
RagingShadow07
| #31 posted July 2, 2009 at 1:57am (EST)
edited July 2, 2009 at 1:58am (EST) |
> Sounds like you get an XP license to run Windows XP SP3 in VirtualPC..
Yep. Professional and Ultimate come with an XP SP3 license. I've tried out XP Mode on the Windows 7 RC. Runs really nicely if you're able to allocate 2GB RAM to it. Apparently, it'll only use one out of 4 cores of my Phenom. But a 2.5GHZ "single core" seems to run it well.
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Foxhack
| | #32 posted July 2, 2009 at 2:39am (EST) |
What about 7 Home? Can it use Virtual PC? I mean, I already have a legit XP license. |
oulzac
| | #33 posted July 2, 2009 at 2:45am (EST) |
yes with 3rd party software, it is not pre built in.
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RagingShadow07
| | #34 posted July 2, 2009 at 3:43am (EST) |
Only Professional and Ultimate come with XP Mode. Whether or not that means they don't come with the program and let you use your own copy of XP, I don't know.
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slugger
| | #35 posted July 2, 2009 at 9:16am (EST) |
langev wrote:
> One reason I am getting it so I can use the XP Mode (available in
> Professional and Ultimate versions) to run older apps. Sounds like
> you get an XP license to run Windows XP SP3 in VirtualPC...
What programs would you have to have professional to use? |
langev
| | #36 posted July 2, 2009 at 10:39am (EST) |
Not really sure I understand your question. I want to be able to use Windows XP mode (to run old apps like Acrobat 6.0). XP mode is available in the Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise versions. Its supposedly "seamless". Once I have it setup and everything loaded, I should be able to click on the Acrobat 6 icon on my Windows 7 desktop and away I go...
Note: You can still run XP in a virtual PC on Windows 7 if you have an XP CD, an XP license, and something like VirtualPC or VirtualBox... |
Osiris
| | #37 posted July 2, 2009 at 11:45am (EST) |
for those in the know, would Windows 7 be a good upgrade for XP Home running on a Atom 280 netbook, 1 gig ram?
I am particularly interested in ease of use/clarity of system messages, etc. As a user of OSX, I find XP arcane and not as intuitive as I would like. The netbook is used for web browing, email, nothing strenuous.
I still can't believe that MS can't build an OS which is at least as easy as OSX, even if they have to support different hardware. |
FatherJohn
| | #38 posted July 2, 2009 at 11:10pm (EST) |
reading this thread is giving me a headache
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millenium_dare
| #39 posted July 2, 2009 at 11:30pm (EST)
edited July 3, 2009 at 1:18am (EST) |
Kit_Silva wrote:
> What about 7 Home? Can it use Virtual PC? I mean, I already have a
> legit XP license.
Any user can get VirtualPC regardless of which version (Home, Professional, Ultimate) they purchase. You'll be able to download the software off Microsoft's website and install your copy of XP in a VM. Whether it will be seamless, I cannot say because I haven't tested the software since the W7 beta.
edit: So I just reinstalled XP on a VPC and it does not allow for a seamless mode. You can go full screen and you can enable integration tools, but alas, no option to launch programs as if they were part of the host.
edit 2: After reviewing the VPC settings, to use the seamless mode with your own copy of XP, you need to enable "auto publish" which will put shortcuts of programs in your host start menu.
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RagingShadow07
| | #40 posted July 3, 2009 at 3:14am (EST) |
Osiris wrote:
> for those in the know, would Windows 7 be a good upgrade for XP Home
> running on a Atom 280 netbook, 1 gig ram?
For those with the same question, courtesy of Toms Hardware.
I'd upgrade the RAM, though. Even lower-end models can accept a stick of 2GB. And Win7 takes up 14GB, so I'd look into getting a better SSD or HDD if you have one of those 16/32GB sticks.
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