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DefaultGen
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#1 posted November 5, 2009 at 9:12pm (EST)
edited November 5, 2009 at 9:38pm (EST)  


http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/11/pc-mode...

- 18 player game limit - Are you fudging kidding me!? Might as well be called "Modern Minor Battle 2"
- No console, can't change things like FOV or graphical tweaks.
- Can't kick players from games
- 5 second pause for host migration if host leaves game  * poker face * IW.net sounds great.

Please don't buy this crap. Play the single player on one of your friend's console versions.

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RagingShadow07
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#121 posted November 14, 2009 at 5:35pm (EST)  

Meh, if it gets us dedicated severs, I'm all for it, especially if it'll get us our own.
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DefaultGen
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#122 posted November 14, 2009 at 5:41pm (EST)  

guncrazy90 wrote:
> DefaultGen wrote:
>> http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?i...
>>
>> Bwahaha. You butt-holes are supporting this.
>>
>
> "According to the Activision CFO, there is a demand from its core
> fanbase to pay for additional services."
> Because we DEMAND to pay more for our games!  * rolls eyes *
>
> Luckily this is pay structure would only be relevant to PC gamers.
> I'm sure the same suckers who bought MW2 for PC will be the same suckers
> who will pay a monthly fee as well. Rage, better start saving for
> your subscription!  * raspberry *
>
>

You think their core fanbase is PC gamers eh? Bwahaha.

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DefaultGen
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#123 posted November 14, 2009 at 5:49pm (EST)  

IWNet was built from the ground up for their core audience:

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RagingShadow07
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#124 posted November 14, 2009 at 5:51pm (EST)  

Told 'ya. Straight up copy and paste of the Xbox Live matchmaking system. I have no idea why people thought it was innovation.
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guncrazy90
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#125 posted November 14, 2009 at 7:37pm (EST)
edited November 14, 2009 at 7:46pm (EST)  

Default, name one successful game that has a subscription fee on top of the already existing Xbox Live Gold fee... (Talking about Xbox 360/PS3 Games)
When Activision is talking about subscription fees, that's almost guaranteed to be towards the PC market

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RagingShadow07
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#126 posted November 14, 2009 at 7:39pm (EST)  

guncrazy90 wrote:
> Default, name one successful game that has a subscription fee on top
> of the already existing Xbox Live Gold fee...

The saddest and most obvious one of 'em all: World of Warcraft.
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guncrazy90
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#127 posted November 14, 2009 at 7:45pm (EST)  

RagingShadow07 wrote:
> guncrazy90 wrote:
>> Default, name one successful game that has a subscription fee on
> top
>> of the already existing Xbox Live Gold fee...
>
> The saddest and most obvious one of 'em all: World of Warcraft.
>

That's not an Xbox Live game though, you have pretty much proven my point
Thanks  * raspberry *

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DefaultGen
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#128 posted November 14, 2009 at 7:57pm (EST)  

guncrazy90 wrote:
> Default, name one successful game that has a subscription fee on top
> of the already existing Xbox Live Gold fee... (Talking about Xbox
> 360/PS3 Games)
> When Activision is talking about subscription fees, that's almost
> guaranteed to be towards the PC market
>
>

Final Fantasy XI? The poor saps with the console version pay both fees.

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DefaultGen
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#129 posted November 14, 2009 at 7:59pm (EST)
edited November 14, 2009 at 8:01pm (EST)  

Also name one PC game without dedicated servers or one PC game that costs $60 in 2009. Activision has obviously come to the dangerous realization that 99% of consumers will buy your game regardless. They're trying to break new ground in fee-charging.

Test the waters with the market you don't care about (PCs) then bring the pain to consoles.

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guncrazy90
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#130 posted November 14, 2009 at 8:19pm (EST)  

Final Fantasy XI wasn't even close to a success on the 360 though. Same with Phantasy Star Universe. These two games were once again, more successful on PC because the MMO market is strong there and whatnot.

To answer second post, I believe Operation Flashpoint 2 had no dedicated servers as well (and was also a complete disaster).
Activision is making it's post-release money from console gamers with DLC. I doubt that they'll risk charging a monthly subscription fee instead (You'd have to pick between DLC or Subscription). They would likely stick with DLC since it doesn't alienate gamers as much.

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sp1cychick3n
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#131 posted November 16, 2009 at 6:38pm (EST)
edited November 16, 2009 at 6:44pm (EST)  

RagingShadow07 wrote:
> Sometimes buying something doesn't necessarily mean supporting it.
>

Uhhh yes, yes it does. I don't even understand where your brain was when you wrote that.


>I'm not that
> big of an idiot.
>

:/

Thanks for the laugh.
RagingShadow07
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#132 posted November 16, 2009 at 7:15pm (EST)  

God forbid we actually buy a game because we want to just play the game.
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DefaultGen
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#133 posted November 16, 2009 at 7:19pm (EST)  

What's the sense in boycotting a product you wouldn't normally buy?

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Knight
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#134 posted November 16, 2009 at 7:23pm (EST)  

Dedicated servers are now available in a current cracked version.
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DefaultGen
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#135 posted November 16, 2009 at 7:44pm (EST)  

Risk it on your IWNet account and Steam account or pirate the game! Soon they'll patch this out so there will only be one option!

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sp1cychick3n
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#136 posted November 16, 2009 at 9:49pm (EST)  

RagingShadow07 wrote:
> God forbid we actually buy a game because we want to just play
> the game.
>

Allow me to introduce you to a post you made in the past:

RagingShadow07 wrote:
> I'm one of the
> ones that won't be buying it at all, at least, until it gets dedicated
> servers.
>

RagingShadow07
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#137 posted November 16, 2009 at 9:53pm (EST)  

Knight wrote:
> Dedicated servers are now available in a current cracked version.
>

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guncrazy90
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#138 posted November 16, 2009 at 11:11pm (EST)  

RagingShadow07 wrote:
> Knight wrote:
>> Dedicated servers are now available in a current cracked version.
>>
You don't have a cracked version though, do you?!?

I thought this was funny btw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ul6xSmCqPY&NR=1

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guncrazy90
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#139 posted November 16, 2009 at 11:19pm (EST)
edited November 17, 2009 at 4:31pm (EST)  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqLUDfl26Y

This is why dedicated servers rule, that looks like a blast

Edit: By the way, this is just proving that they have dedicated servers
Not all dedicated servers are like this and has nothing to do with the reason why IW removed them from the game

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guncrazy90
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#140 posted November 17, 2009 at 12:02am (EST)  

Triple Post! Noticed this comment on Kotaku, sums it up quite nicely

MW2 really is a mess on PC.
It's became rather clear its a port of the 360 version, and on top of that they also sabotaged the IWengine. Who the fudge does that. Who goes in and turns features off. They have the code for Lean in the exe. they have the code for Dedicated servers in the exe, they have the code for xbox live in the exe, and they have the console commands in the exe too(and in the manual too, WTF, sloppy job IW)
www.casualkilling.com

Theres the tweak to the ping bar (bars, really, in a PC game?) to show your ping, and its clearly showing host advantage and 100ms to 200ms ping.
i34.tinypic.com

Oh yeah, you know how they said IWnet would be hack proof?www.callofdutyhacks.com
And the great thing, there's no Admins on IWnet to kick cheats n hackers. Hooray!!

Even Crecente has been hit by some of the bugs
"Hmm, MW2 on PC has garbled text for me when I try to play. Is anyone else seeing that on Windows 7?"
twitter.com
img404.imageshack.us

Really, Infinity Ward have really let themselves down with the release of MW2 on PC. It has been one huge cock up of a PR disaster. And I don't think anyone can sanely blame PC gamers for their rage at Infinity Ward.
Really if they want to stop developing for PC then fine, its clear they stopped developing for PC with COD4 anyway.

Edit: for those who wish to try out the stuff in above video:
www.modernwarfail2.com
(p.s not tried it myself)


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sgtshaggy
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#141 posted November 20, 2009 at 6:22pm (EST)  

DefaultGen wrote:

> Final Fantasy XI? The poor saps with the console version pay both
> fees.

FFXI works with Silver.

Check this out: Modern Warfare 2 PC Outperforming Original

shags

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