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Outinthedark

#1 posted June 11, 2009 at 8:02pm (EST)

I am having an issue with DVDFREAK007. With no contact at all since the 28th and having not logged in since the 1st [though he has been demoted to silver not gold anymore so that math is a little mind boggling]

I am wondering how long I should wait. I send email and trade message and no reply at all. I see past BTRs for games but I am not being a rental service especially with DVDs that can just be ripped.

Any help would be appreciative and I hope he returns soon. I've given him a final "deadline" for a week from today to produce his side of the trade or I and the other trader, seemingly left in limbo, will be pursuing legal processes.

Just would like some advice. I was too early to jump the gun on a trader who clearly does not know how to properly message [he left his "message" that he sent in my feedback rather than in the trade listing and never contacted me again] but ended up coming through just some miscommunication but I at least got my end of the bargain. This guy just leaves and does not reply to any message.

Thanks in advance.

John

#41 posted June 19, 2009 at 11:25am (EST)
edited June 19, 2009 at 11:25am (EST)

Indeed -- in my head, when I picture Outinthedark in court in Kentucky for this, the judge says "So, what'r ya'll here fer today?".

Also, Outinthedark has to explain what the "in-ter-net" is.

Also, there is banjo music all the time in the background...

- John...

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DirtyMarco

#42 posted June 19, 2009 at 11:28am (EST)

John wrote:
> Outinthedark wrote:
>> John I plan on suing in small claims court no worries. I know I
> must
>> obtain that judgment prior to wage garnishment. Figured it was
> obvious
>> and not needed to be said.
>
> Well, I only mentioned it because it seemed like you were skipping
> a big step. I don't think it is obvious to lots of people how such
> things work.
>
>> It is actually more challenging to file in small claims over state
>> lines because I would actually have to file in person, sworn statement
>> and all along with filing fees etc etc.
>
> Have you ever done small claims before in a state other than your
> own? It is NOT a fun process. You do realize that, in general, you'll
> need to file for small claims in HIS local court, right? Are you
> going to make the 16+ hour round trip (possibly one to file and another
> for court)?
>
>> Garnishing the wages is simply ordering a lien
>
> Huh? I'm confused how garnishing is a lien? A lien is generally
> something that is held over property. Unless the state has laws different
> than most, you won't be able to get a lien for a money judgement like
> this (if it was for construction or something, sure -- but not for
> someone just owing you money unrelated to the property itself).
>
> Edit: Nevermind. I see that Kentucky uses odd wording for liens and
> does call a wage garnishment a "continuous lien against wages". Which,in
> my opinion, is a weird way to use the word "lien."

>
>> which is very simple and can be done by anyone who
>> has obtained the small court filing in their favor.
>
> That being said, I agree that filing for a garnishment isn't too difficult
> -- provided that you know where they work and such. And you can often
> also garnish state tax returns -- where you're more likely to get
> a larger lump sum, but you only have one chance a year to do it.
>

>
>> I think my Commonwealth
>> has multiple types of liens I could apply.
>
> Aren't you in Virginia? I don't see how your local stuff applies
> at all. He's in Kentucky -- so that garnishment would be filed there,
> not in your state, right?
>
I eagerly await the day in which you breakdown someone's post word by word John.

John

#43 posted June 19, 2009 at 1:47pm (EST)

I break things up into points and discuss them individually. It seems more like face-to-face to me. When face-to-face with someone having a discussion, you generally do not have one person speak for 5 minutes and then have the other respond to all the points made during their 5 minutes (well, maybe when we're running for President). Instead, someone would make one point and then the other would respond to it -- then they'd move on to the next. That face-to-face style is what I tend to do on the internet too. Some people like it because it details each point -- others don't like it at all.

It can't be too much worse than quoting a page worth of text just to add a one-liner...

- John...

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monkbonk
woooooooooooooooo! not a chest. That's my boom!

#44 posted June 19, 2009 at 1:51pm (EST)

DirtyMarco wrote:
> John wrote:
>> Outinthedark wrote:
> |>> John I plan on suing in small claims court no worries. I know
> I
>> must
> |>> obtain that judgment prior to wage garnishment. Figured it was
>> obvious
> |>> and not needed to be said.
>>
>> Well, I only mentioned it because it seemed like you were skipping
>> a big step. I don't think it is obvious to lots of people how
> such
>> things work.
>>
> |>> It is actually more challenging to file in small claims over state
> |>> lines because I would actually have to file in person, sworn statement
> |>> and all along with filing fees etc etc.
>>
>> Have you ever done small claims before in a state other than your
>> own? It is NOT a fun process. You do realize that, in general,
> you'll
>> need to file for small claims in HIS local court, right? Are you
>> going to make the 16+ hour round trip (possibly one to file and
> another
>> for court)?
>>
> |>> Garnishing the wages is simply ordering a lien
>>
>> Huh? I'm confused how garnishing is a lien? A lien is generally
>> something that is held over property. Unless the state has laws
> different
>> than most, you won't be able to get a lien for a money judgement
> like
>> this (if it was for construction or something, sure -- but not
> for
>> someone just owing you money unrelated to the property itself).
>>
>> Edit: Nevermind. I see that Kentucky uses odd wording for liens
> and
>> does call a wage garnishment a "continuous lien against wages".
> Which,in
>> my opinion, is a weird way to use the word "lien."

>>
> |>> which is very simple and can be done by anyone who
> |>> has obtained the small court filing in their favor.
>>
>> That being said, I agree that filing for a garnishment isn't too
> difficult
>> -- provided that you know where they work and such. And you can
> often
>> also garnish state tax returns -- where you're more likely to get
>> a larger lump sum, but you only have one chance a year to do it.
>
>>

>>
> |>> I think my Commonwealth
> |>> has multiple types of liens I could apply.
>>
>> Aren't you in Virginia? I don't see how your local stuff applies
>> at all. He's in Kentucky -- so that garnishment would be filed
> there,
>> not in your state, right?
>>
> I eagerly await the day in which you breakdown someone's post word
> by word John.
>
John wrote:
> I break things up into points and discuss them individually. It seems
> more like face-to-face to me. When face-to-face with someone having
> a discussion, you generally do not have one person speak for 5 minutes
> and then have the other respond to all the points made during their
> 5 minutes (well, maybe when we're running for President). Instead,
> someone would make one point and then the other would respond to it
> -- then they'd move on to the next. That face-to-face style is what
> I tend to do on the internet too. Some people like it because it
> details each point -- others don't like it at all.
>
> It can't be too much worse than quoting a page worth of text just
> to add a one-liner...

>

agreed.

T.A.P.E. FORUM

karaiya44

#45 posted June 19, 2009 at 11:45pm (EST)

I sent you 2 months of my subtime for your trading troubles. I hope you continue to be a good trader. Plus I love Beck Mongolian Chop Squad

Outinthedark

#46 posted June 20, 2009 at 10:12am (EST)

I am extremely grateful karaiya with you random act of generosity. Thank you so very much!

bill

#47 posted June 21, 2009 at 7:58am (EST)

DVDFREAK007 has signed on and responded to his BTRs... he's saying his Internet was out...

Outinthedark

#48 posted June 21, 2009 at 11:21am (EST)

Glad I held off a few extra days for paperwork's sake...

I did send a physical letter...maybe he got that?

Outinthedark

#49 posted June 25, 2009 at 2:29pm (EST)

Ok well 4 days later no update...not logging in...no nothing...

Should I go ahead and file the warrant now? This is getting a little ridiculous...

dvdfreak2005

#50 posted June 25, 2009 at 2:37pm (EST)

Well he did log on the one time so he should have the shipping info he said he didnt have. You would think if hes having problems with his internet hed right it down when he had the chance.
I still find it hard to belive hes a scammer since we did trade 6 times and the last packaage he sent me like 17 wrestling dvd sets. I woulda thought a scaammer would have done it in that kind of a big
trade. But yea this is going to far now.

Outinthedark

#51 posted July 1, 2009 at 12:57pm (EST)

I think I have been patient enough. Just forwarded shadow the paperwork he needs to file. I'm pressing criminal charges.

dvdfreak2005

#52 posted July 6, 2009 at 6:47pm (EST)

Any updates.

Outinthedark

#53 posted July 7, 2009 at 8:56pm (EST)

No news from his county yet. I'm sure it is buried in paperwork. I know it is like that here. I have a free day tomorrow and I actually need to get a local police report filed as well.

This is irritating. Shadow did not respond to my email either. Not sure if he filed or not.

dvdfreak2005

#54 posted July 7, 2009 at 9:01pm (EST)

Some people just dont care sadly eneough.

DR_SPOCK

#55 posted July 7, 2009 at 9:18pm (EST)

I'm alarmed at the number of DVD freaks running around.

dvdfreak2005

#56 posted July 7, 2009 at 10:18pm (EST)

lol I know. This guy was all pissed I had the same name and he was worried about people not trading with him because of me since I used to be a bad trader.
Its kinda ironic that I am still making good trades and getting perfect feedback and hes getting police reports against him. =)

Gonchi