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gothy69
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#1 posted June 23, 2009 at 1:07am (EST)
edited June 23, 2009 at 1:23am (EST)  

 

The thing is i sent out 2 games for 20 dollers on may the 12. He said that he recived on the 18 of may he suposidly sent out on the 29 of may. It was suposed to be a 20 doller money order. He lied to everyone on the sight and said he was suposed to send out 20 dollers conceled cash. but even so if he did i would have gotten the mail from him and this would be no problem for me.
WHAT SHOULD I DO ABOUT THIS????????
Outinthedark
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#2 posted June 23, 2009 at 1:40am (EST)  

Your BTR filed is more coherent than your post...

Other than that it's about all you can do at the moment...work it out with the trader now. He was on but just yesterday...I'd like to see the PM rundown...

Also...it's "site"...

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Gonchi
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#3 posted June 23, 2009 at 1:40am (EST)  

There was a thread about this particular trade gone wrong already. Probably should keep it all in just one topic.
Outinthedark
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#4 posted June 23, 2009 at 1:56am (EST)  

I did not connect 1 and 2 together...the thread did kind of get jacked by off topic posts...

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bill
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#5 posted June 23, 2009 at 9:50am (EST)  

You both have BTRs on each other.

I've read through your posts and BTRs, but I don't see any clear indication that one of you deserves more fault than the other or that either BTR should come down. I think filing BTRs was not the best idea.

The bottomline with this is you have to work out some compromise. Split the loss or whatever you can figure out. My impression is that you're both being to rigid and too paranoid about thing (assuming the other is lying, etc.). Try to back off from that attitude and think about ways you can come to some agreement with the other. Compromise means you will likely have to give up something, but so will he.
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#6 posted June 23, 2009 at 10:34am (EST)  

Gonchi wrote:
> There was
> a thread
about this particular trade gone wrong already. Probably

> should keep it all in just one topic.

i would if the topic was not closed
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#7 posted June 23, 2009 at 10:37am (EST)
edited June 23, 2009 at 10:44am (EST)  

i wouild work some thing out with the trader if he would not egnore any of my messages that i send him. so that is why i filed a btr on him. i said that i would pay for the games to be shipped back and he ignored me 3 days later i said hello and still ignored me so i filed the btr on him. does this make any since.



this is what really happend i coppyed it strait from the trades. and read what i just posted please it makes since.
on 23-Jun-2009 at 1:01am gothy69 if you sent a money order where is the recipit and i want a pic of it to prove its mine!!!

on 23-Jun-2009 at 12:35am gothy69 ok you know what btr now.

on 19-Jun-2009 at 2:52pm gothy69 hello?

on 13-Jun-2009 at 5:38pm gothy69 ok. ill send you $3, you ship the games back, then after i get the games, ill cancel the trade, then it will be like this all never happened and we can just ignore each other from now on. deal?

on 12-Jun-2009 at 1:46pm gothy69 i did not originaly lie about the games when i got them they were as i put but i dont check them after i play them.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 1:28pm gothy69 piss off im not paying for the shipping of my games back.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 1:26pm ilovepears yeah thats all fine and dandy. I dont want your games and I dont give a crap about 'your' or 'my' 20 dollars at this point. just pony up and pay for return shipping since you originally lied about the games

on 12-Jun-2009 at 1:21pm gothy69 i dont know what the big deal is i just want the 20 dollers.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 1:15pm gothy69 why would i wanna pay to send my one games back the only thing i was wanting was the 20 dollers. and who cares if i cant spell butt-hole. and why would i wanna sound like a pro hmmmmmmmmmmm. what is there to fess up im not lieing at all. besides the condition of the games. oh and why would i steel 20 dollers when i have enough money that i dont know what to spend it on.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 1:01pm ilovepears i think you're forgetting what was said earlier:

Now the choice is yours, would you accept a deduction in the amount of money I'm sending or would you like to pay for shipping and have me ship the games back to you. I dont mean to be an ass about this but I believe your items were miss represented.

so there's no way im going to be out 20 dollars, and then have to ship the games back to you when you already lied in the first place, and you're probably lying now since you cant spell correctly or make the slightest attempt to act or sound professional. so the balls in your court, send me the like 3 dollars it costs to ship your scratched and misrepresented games. or fess up.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 12:39pm gothy69 i even cheacked the mail today still nothing.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 12:38pm gothy69 im not going to pay for shiping i did not screw up this deal.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 12:35pm ilovepears i have no problems sending the games back provided you pay for shipping.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 12:14pm gothy69 well i dont like to be ripped off at all by people. if it does not get here in a day or two i want the games back.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 11:42am ilovepears well than I call bullcrap, I mail things everyday in my job, triple checked the address, and sent it the same day as other payments. I have no reason to rip you
off for scratched disc only copy of RE3 an a GH tomb raider. You better double check and make sure you havent missed anything, because there's no way after sending payment for a EEEPc and me selling 200 dollars worth of NES games on the site that I would rip you off for scratched ps1 games

on 12-Jun-2009 at 10:52am gothy69 i am shur i have not got anything in the mail for 2 weeks with my name on it from anybody.

on 12-Jun-2009 at 9:52am ilovepears ARE YOU SURE Did you not get a payment from Nadams 0023-13210? I was just told it wasn't money it was concealed cash. let me know. The last thing I would do would be except a misrepresented item and then turn around not send you money I've vested too much time and money on this site to do that for 20 dollars

on 11-Jun-2009 at 8:54pm gothy69 well it does not take 2 weeks to get here when it only took 3 days to get to you.

on 11-Jun-2009 at 7:03pm ilovepears calm down I sent on the 29th, it should be there any day. I sent another payment to someone in NYC and they didnt get it until yesterday. And please dont threaten me with a BTR, when I went out of my way and accepted a incorrectly represented item that you had intentionally or hastily listed.

on 11-Jun-2009 at 2:58pm gothy69 DID YOU SEND OUT THE MONEY ORDER IM GETTING MAD. IF YOU DONT SEND THE GAMES OR THE MONEY ORDER TO ME I WILL FILE A BTR!

on 10-Jun-2009 at 6:10pm gothy69 the money order still has not got to me.

on 8-Jun-2009 at 2:12pm gothy69 i did not receive the money order yet just to let you know.

on 5-Jun-2009 at 11:53am gothy69 ok

on 5-Jun-2009 at 9:38am ilovepears i shipped it, if you do not recieve it by the start of next week i can return the money order and send again

on 4-Jun-2009 at 11:58pm gothy69 hello.

on 3-Jun-2009 at 3:02pm gothy69 umm the money should have gotten here all ready. do you think that you maild it to the right place.

on 29-May-2009 at 10:24pm ilovepears I sent on 29-May-2009.

on 29-May-2009 at 12:05am gothy69 did you send out the money?????? i would like to know.

on 27-May-2009 at 4:47pm gothy69 umm did you send out the money order?

on 27-May-2009 at 4:37pm gothy69 umm did you send out the money order?

on 21-May-2009 at 11:05pm gothy69 that is fine with me and ill be alot more carfull next time.

on 21-May-2009 at 4:56pm ilovepears i wasnt able to get out today, i will try and ship this tomorrow, sorry

on 19-May-2009 at 11:34pm ilovepears alright, just try to be more careful next time for your own sake. alot of the traders on here are even bigger dicks about that stuf than me.

i work tomorrow so I'll send out your money on thursday.

on 19-May-2009 at 10:25pm gothy69 ok that will work sorry about any inconvinence. 20 will work fine.

on 19-May-2009 at 8:50pm ilovepears I think bumping it down to 20 would be more than fair. These two shots are the best I could do with digi cam. But it clearly shows the scratch(es)

http://i44.tinypic.com/ng5ao3.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/27zww0o.jpg

on 19-May-2009 at 7:55pm gothy69 how much of a decline in money?

on 18-May-2009 at 7:48pm gothy69 how much are we talking about in a deduction? and would you send me a pic of the scratch. there was none when i had it.

on 18-May-2009 at 6:54pm ilovepears I have received.

on 18-May-2009 at 6:53pm ilovepears Hey I don't meant to be a stickler, this is my first time ever doing this, but the copy of Resident Evil 3: Nemesis was listed as having a box, while the copy I received has a case from a CDR. The back of the CD also has a big circular scratch. By widely accepted standards that doesn't really constitute something as being in 'excellent' condition. I am posting this rather hastily as I am not home yet, but I will send pictures if you need to justify my claims. Now the choice is yours, would you accept a deduction in the amount of money I'm sending or would you like to pay for shipping and have me ship the games back to you. I dont mean to be an ass about this but I believe your items were miss represented.
on 15-May-2009 at 5:02pm gothy69 I sent on 15-May-2009.

Tracking number: 0306 0320 0001 0594 0524 Your item was delivered at 4:08 pm on May 18, 2009 in SYRACUSE, NY 13210.
Processed through Sort Facility, May 17, 2009, 6:10 pm, SYRACUSE, NY 13220
Processed through Sort Facility, May 16, 2009, 8:33 pm, SYRACUSE, NY 13220
Acceptance, May 15, 2009, 2:11 pm, GRAFTON, WV 26354
ive sent.

on 13-May-2009 at 8:59pm gothy69 i will be sending buy friday.

on 12-May-2009 at 9:35pm gothy69 gothy69's address:


on 12-May-2009 at 9:35pm ilovepears ilovepears's address:



on 12-May-2009 at 9:35pm ilovepears Pending trade created.

Offer Accepted
whenever is easiest for you, obviously the sooner the better but whenever is easiest for you (within reason) is fine by me

on 12-May-2009 at 9:30pm gothy69 Offer Accepted
Yes im cool with it. When do you want me to send out?

on 12-May-2009 at 9:29pm gothy69 Counter-Offer

on 12-May-2009 at 9:26pm ilovepears Offer Accepted
i will do this trade if you're cool with it

on 12-May-2009 at 9:24pm gothy69 Counter-Offer
Sending changed from: "ilovepears sends first" to: "gothy69 sends first"
Shipping changed from: "First Class with Delivery Confirmation and Insurance" to: "First Class with Delivery Confirmation"
add:
$25 money order. shiped.
delete:
$30 money order. shiped.


on 12-May-2009 at 9:22pm ilovepears Offer Declined
sry this seems a little high, not to mention I wouldnt send money first to someone who has 2 trades

on 12-May-2009 at 9:09pm gothy69 Counter-Offer
add:
$30 money order. shipped.
delete:
$ via money order.


on 12-May-2009 at 9:06pm ilovepears Counter-Offer
paypal is an online method of sending money.

so how much shipped for these 2

on 12-May-2009 at 8:38pm gothy69 Counter-Offer
Sending changed from: "gothy69 sends first" to: "ilovepears sends first"
add:
$ via money order.
delete:
$ via paypal

i dont know what a pay pal is sorry.

on 12-May-2009 at 8:28pm ilovepears Offer Created

how much for these shipped?

and how much for that modded ps1 shipped too? i might be interested if the price is right



that is the real things that happend with this trade not what he sayes that happend and will people read what i post it does make sence.
bill
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#8 posted June 23, 2009 at 10:46am (EST)
edited June 23, 2009 at 10:46am (EST)  

I sent a message to ilovepears, mentioning this new topic and essentially saying the same thing to him that I said to you. Compromise/work it out/etc.

Lets just try to focus on a solution to the problem. Reposting old message logs doesn't seem especially helpful to me. It's a lot to read and it's not clear to me how it help resolve this.

The response you just added to the BTR seemed like a good start.
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#9 posted June 23, 2009 at 10:53am (EST)
edited June 23, 2009 at 10:54am (EST)  

but that is the only way i can get threw to him thats why i filed the btr in the first place.
bill
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#10 posted June 23, 2009 at 10:57am (EST)  

In that other topic ilovepears had said, "or like i said i dont have a problem sending back the mis-represented items if he pays shipping"

In your response to the BTR you seem to be saying the same thing.

So, you appear close to a solution, unless I'm missing something.
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#11 posted June 23, 2009 at 11:02am (EST)  

no i want a solution from this i just dont know where to start at one.

but why would i wanna send more money out if he is not gonna send the games to me like he suposidly did with the moeny order what then?
bill
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#12 posted June 23, 2009 at 1:14pm (EST)  

more money?
gothy69
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#13 posted June 23, 2009 at 2:54pm (EST)  

yes he wants me to send him like 3 dollers to send both games back to me.
bill
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#14 posted June 23, 2009 at 3:03pm (EST)  

That seems potentially unfair. You'd already be paying to send his games back. Maybe, that bit could be negotiated further.
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#15 posted June 23, 2009 at 5:43pm (EST)  

he did not use dc and he did not use a money order like he said he would and used cash instead.
darkslime
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#16 posted June 23, 2009 at 5:55pm (EST)  

gothy69 wrote:
> he did not use dc and he did not use a money order like he said he
> would and used cash instead.
we get that.
and you sent games in crappy condition.

you both fudgeed up, now work it out.
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gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#17 posted June 23, 2009 at 5:59pm (EST)  

ive tryed but no responce from him.
flyngmonbob
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#18 posted June 27, 2009 at 1:00am (EST)  

Maybe because he can't understand what the fudge you are saying
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#19 posted June 27, 2009 at 10:03pm (EST)  

flyngmonbob wrote:
> Maybe because he can't understand what the fudge you are saying

why dont you go piss off.
Outinthedark
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#20 posted June 27, 2009 at 11:06pm (EST)  

gothy69 wrote:
> flyngmonbob wrote:
>> Maybe because he can't understand what the fudge you are saying
>
> why dont you go piss off.

Pretty clear statement...you say one thing then double back say another thing making absolutely no fudging sense at all...

Your response to the BTR: "Just send me my games back in the condition i sent them i will pay for the shipping and we can cancel the trade and avoid each other for ever for now on... ok deal"

Then you reply to Bill: "why would i wanna send more money out if he is not gonna send the games to me like he suposidly did with the moeny order what then?"

And for fudges sake...there is a shift key for a reason along with the appropriate punctuation keys littering your keyboard. USE THEM! The incoherent drivel you type is frustrating for anyone trying to help you.

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flyngmonbob
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#21 posted June 27, 2009 at 11:44pm (EST)  

how the fudge are you 18 and cant even spell liar right (on your bio page)
gothy69
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#22 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:18am (EST)  

your all a bunch of fukking idots. so piss off jack asses!
monkbonk
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#23 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:22am (EST)  

I dunno. I'm finding the current gothy69 quite agreeable..
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T.A.P.E. FORUM
flyngmonbob
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#24 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:22am (EST)  

passing the swear filter? purposefuly or not you are a fudging retard
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#25 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:22am (EST)  

at least some one agrees.
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#26 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:23am (EST)  

purpose ass bag
Outinthedark
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#27 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:23am (EST)  

gothy69 wrote:
> You're all a bunch of fudging idiots. So piss off jack asses!

Fixed! [Idots lol :D]

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gothy69
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#28 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:24am (EST)  

ok what the hell ever
Outinthedark
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#29 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:28am (EST)  

gothy69 wrote:
> ok what the hell ever

No not what the hell ever...it's pronounced ID-I-OT...there's an extra I in there ;D

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gothy69
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#30 posted June 28, 2009 at 12:29am (EST)  

i know that i felt like being a fukking dumb ass so i spelled it like that. (SO PISS OFF)!!!!!!!!
BoB
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#31 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:01am (EST)  

[23:56] <gothy69> nigger

could someone help this boy with a vacation please?


*meh
streetz_25tl


(abuse)
#32 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:03am (EST)  

LOL
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#33 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:04am (EST)  

lol for what?
streetz_25tl


(abuse)
#34 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:05am (EST)  

on bobs post
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#35 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:08am (EST)  

oh ok piss off i was gonna trade but piss off now!
flyngmonbob
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#36 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:12am (EST)  

stop saying piss off. you arent fudging british.
streetz_25tl


(abuse)
#37 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:12am (EST)  

wow if i did pend u would send first lol. well get back to ur topic
gothy69
Bronze Good Trader

#38 posted June 28, 2009 at 1:24am (EST)  

no and piss off fudgek tard FLYNGMONBOB
streetz_25tl


(abuse)
#39 posted June 28, 2009 at 2:02am (EST)  

lol this is interesting.
damiencorso
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#40 posted June 28, 2009 at 5:42am (EST)  

flyngmonbob wrote:
> Maybe because he can't understand what the fudge you are saying

lmfao funniest thing I've read all week.
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