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savior
| | #1 posted December 8, 2004 at 11:34pm (EST) |
http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=3978
Looks like there are some significant load times for most/all of the demos. That could equal serious battery drain and gamer annoyance. Sounds pretty bad to me. |
dracula
 
| | #41 posted December 11, 2004 at 9:30am (EST) |
grkangel10 wrote:
> I wouldn't necessarily say "ownt." I agree that Sony will definitely
> not flop like the Ngage, but Nintendo's hold on the handheld market
> vs their previous hold on the console market are like night and day.
Nintendo totally dominated the home console marketplace with the NES. Look at them now, they obselete(for console, they are doing great at the hand held). Sony totally destroyed them.
> One is 95% or so and the other was half that. Its going to be a lot
> harder for them to muscle their way in this time around than it was
> in the N64/PSX era.
Right now i am not impressed with my DS at all, i will probably chuck it onto ebay uk this weekend. If they can market games that really utilize the second screen, then it will be fine, but right now i am not impressed with the DS. (of course, it is VERY early, I will probably pick up castlevania DS at some point to complete my castlevania mega collection, but i will probably wait for it to get clearanced out).
I think the gameboy will continue to do well bc of its huge user base. Ultimately, i think there is room for both nintendo and sony to both do well in the portable marketplace because they are both getting a ton of third party support.
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savior
| | #42 posted December 11, 2004 at 11:37am (EST) |
Kaosu wrote:
> savior wrote:
>> j_factor wrote:
> |>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters. Trains
> have
> |>> outlets.
>>
>> Does the PSP come with an adapter to charge it with your cigarette lighter?
>
> Usually nothing does, but they're usually easily obtainable.
>
>
I was just wondering why charging at the cigarette lighter was being given as a simple and convenient remedy for short battery life. Purchasing extra gear to go with my already less-than-cheap portable to remedy a flaw in the hardware and/or software certainly doesn't seem simple or convenient... but maybe that's just me. |
Jerk007
  
| | #43 posted December 11, 2004 at 1:08pm (EST) |
dracula wrote:
> grkangel10 wrote:
>> I wouldn't necessarily say "ownt." I agree that Sony will definitely
>> not flop like the Ngage, but Nintendo's hold on the handheld market
>> vs their previous hold on the console market are like night and day.
>
> Nintendo totally dominated the home console marketplace with the NES. Look at them now,
> they obselete(for console, they are doing great at the hand held). Sony totally destroyed
> them.
The NES has nothing to do with this. Sony came around the time we had a Nintendo (SNES) vs Sega (genesis) battle... Nintendo didn't dominate anything except in Japan at that moment. Like grkangel10 said, comparing their previous hold on the console market with the SNES and the current dominance with their portables is silly. |
Guru
| | #44 posted December 11, 2004 at 3:15pm (EST) |
Mewtwo wrote:
> j_factor wrote:
>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters.
>
> Correction, Not all Cars have Cigarrete Lighters. In fact I believe now you have to ask for them to be included?
> Or something like that. I know someone who's gotten a newer car and his does not have a Ciragette lighter or ash
> trays. So not ALL cars have them. Older ones I'd say most likely.. but newer ones? Maybe not.
>
>
>
That's such a lame argument.
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
grkangel10
(frozen)
| | #45 posted December 11, 2004 at 4:04pm (EST) |
dracula wrote:
> grkangel10 wrote:
>> I wouldn't necessarily say "ownt." I agree that Sony will definitely
>> not flop like the Ngage, but Nintendo's hold on the handheld market
>> vs their previous hold on the console market are like night and day.
>
> Nintendo totally dominated the home console marketplace with the NES. Look at them now,
> they obselete(for console, they are doing great at the hand held). Sony totally destroyed
> them.
>
>> One is 95% or so and the other was half that. Its going to be a lot
>> harder for them to muscle their way in this time around than it was
>> in the N64/PSX era.
>
> Right now i am not impressed with my DS at all, i will probably chuck it onto ebay uk
> this weekend. If they can market games that really utilize the second screen, then it
> will be fine, but right now i am not impressed with the DS. (of course, it is VERY early,
> I will probably pick up castlevania DS at some point to complete my castlevania mega collection,
> but i will probably wait for it to get clearanced out).
>
> I think the gameboy will continue to do well bc of its huge user base. Ultimately, i
> think there is room for both nintendo and sony to both do well in the portable marketplace
> because they are both getting a ton of third party support.
>
>
>
>
As was stated earlier, PSX didn't go up against the NES, it went up against the last years of the SNES and then against the 64. By that time, Sega had already taken a fair chunk of the market, and Nintendo's hold was considerably lessened from the NES days. As far as you being impressed with DS right now, I agree that there's not a lot to grab your attention. If you look at the games coming in the future though, you'll see that there are some pretty nice things coming out. |
Ghaleon
| | #46 posted December 11, 2004 at 4:45pm (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Mewtwo wrote:
>> j_factor wrote:
> |>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters.
>>
>> Correction, Not all Cars have Cigarrete Lighters. In fact I believe now you have to
> ask for them to be included?
>> Or something like that. I know someone who's gotten a newer car and his does not have a Ciragette lighter or |>ashtrays. So not ALL cars have them. Older ones I'd say most likely.. but newer ones?
> Maybe not.
>>
>>
>>
>
> That's such a lame argument.
>
>
* rolls eyes * . Citing a FACT, in this case, is a lame arguement?(see bolded area).
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Guru
| #47 posted December 11, 2004 at 4:57pm (EST)
edited December 11, 2004 at 4:58pm (EST) |
Why am I not surprised you were the one to defend him.
I guess that person will never ever play PSP then.
Sony is going down now.
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
Ghaleon
| | #48 posted December 11, 2004 at 5:07pm (EST) |
WTF is with your childish attitude the last week or so? Who the hell said they would never play it?
I can defend my friend if I want, get over it. Better yet, I'll just filter your immature ass. 
Just explain to me, by him stating that ONE FUDGING car doesn't have a lighter outlet/ashtrays, is gonna bring Sony down?
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Guru
| | #49 posted December 11, 2004 at 5:12pm (EST) |
Ghaleon wrote:
> WTF is with your childish attitude the last week or so? Who the hell said they would never play it?
>
I mean, it's Sony. Who's gonna buy it? Am I right?
> I can defend my friend if I want, get over it. Better yet, I'll just filter your immature ass.
>
Go for it.
> Just explain to me, by him stating that ONE FUDGING car doesn't have a lighter outlet/ashtrays, is gonna bring
> Sony down?
>
>
>
>
Mewtwo's obvious bias against Sony is simply stupid. It's like he's running out of reasons to dislike them.
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
Ghaleon
| | #50 posted December 11, 2004 at 5:19pm (EST) |
Grow up, and get over his views.
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Guru
| | #51 posted December 11, 2004 at 5:20pm (EST) |
Eh.
I'll just continue to do what I am doing.
If you can't handle it, filter me then.
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
nalod6
(frozen)
| | #52 posted December 11, 2004 at 5:21pm (EST) |
Although I usually play my portable plugged into the wall anyway (since I don't travel much), battery life usually isn't a factor for me. However, I like knowing that if I want to, I can play for a while without having to worry about the battery dying right in the middle of an important point in the game.
~nalod6
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Guru
| | #53 posted December 11, 2004 at 5:22pm (EST) |
Red light on a portable = break time for me. 
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
lordkaosu
 
| | #54 posted December 11, 2004 at 6:28pm (EST) |
I love the red light on the SP, just briliant. It's useful as it lets you know your system is gonna die and you can get a chance to save/charge. Now the red light on the Nomad...that was just a cruel joke, something to let you know your system will die within the next 30 seconds...have a good day.
-Kaosu |
j_factor
 
| | #55 posted December 11, 2004 at 9:33pm (EST) |
savior wrote:
> Kaosu wrote:
>> savior wrote:
> |>> j_factor wrote:
>> |>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters. Trains
>> have
>> |>> outlets.
> |>>
> |>> Does the PSP come with an adapter to charge it with your cigarette lighter?
>>
>> Usually nothing does, but they're usually easily obtainable.
>>
>>
>
> I was just wondering why charging at the cigarette lighter was being given as a simple
> and convenient remedy for short battery life. Purchasing extra gear to go with my already
> less-than-cheap portable to remedy a flaw in the hardware and/or software certainly doesn't
> seem simple or convenient... but maybe that's just me.
Presumably you're not going to just find yourself in a car with a portable system, but know ahead of time if it'll be necessary.
Systems don't come with memory cards, either.
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j_factor
| | #56 posted December 11, 2004 at 9:35pm (EST) |
I'm not trying to say that battery life is totally irrelevant, but I see people doging about short battery life a disproportionately large amount considering how often it really would pose a problem for them.
The latest manifesto of pure genius: Aerosmith sells you a Buick |
savior
| | #57 posted December 11, 2004 at 10:36pm (EST) |
I think you're downplaying the importance of battery life considerably. There are people who use their portable game system several days in a row, on a regular basis. 2-4 hours of battery life means that they HAVE to remember to recharge their system in between EVERY gaming session, or else they're screwed. That's a giant pain in the ass.
I'm a pretty intelligent guy, but when I was commuting daily, I would often forget to put my iPod in the charger at the end of the day. Luckily I could still get a second day of commuting music out of it when that happened, but if it had poor battery life, I either wouldn't have purchased it in the first place, or returned it/sold it on eBay after becoming an extremely frustrated and dissatisfied customer. |
Mewtwo
| | #58 posted December 11, 2004 at 11:23pm (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Mewtwo wrote:
>> j_factor wrote:
> |>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters.
>>
>> Correction, Not all Cars have Cigarrete Lighters. In fact I believe now you have to
> ask for them to be included?
>> Or something like that. I know someone who's gotten a newer car and his does not have
> a Ciragette lighter or ash
>> trays. So not ALL cars have them. Older ones I'd say most likely.. but newer ones?
> Maybe not.
>>
>>
>>
>
> That's such a lame argument.
Really? Wow considering it wasn't an agrument but just a point I was making. WOW way to go on that observation Guru oh wise one!
Mewtwo
| ~It is what you do with the Gift of Life, that Determines who you are.~ |
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Mewtwo
| #59 posted December 11, 2004 at 11:29pm (EST)
edited December 11, 2004 at 11:29pm (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Ghaleon wrote:
>> WTF is with your childish attitude the last week or so? Who the hell said they would
> never play it?
>>
>
> I mean, it's Sony. Who's gonna buy it? Am I right?
>
>> I can defend my friend if I want, get over it. Better yet, I'll just filter your immature
> ass.
> |>
>
> Go for it.
>
>> Just explain to me, by him stating that ONE FUDGING car doesn't have a lighter outlet/ashtrays,
> is gonna bring
>> Sony down?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Mewtwo's obvious bias against Sony is simply stupid. It's like he's running out of reasons
> to dislike them.
Yeah you go ahead and preach it Brother! Seriously...
I think it really bothers you what I think for some reason. Well you know what I think you're and jerk. Does that bother you? Sorry. But I'm sure you don't think highly of me either but the differance is I don't care. Why does my opinions seem so bad to you that you feel the need to come down on me or such over them? Hmm? Why can't you simply just ignore them Guru? Do I get under your skin? Can't you just deal with it? And hey if not the filter button is there you know. I don't appreciate you comming down on practically every second comment I have and not my friends either.
Keep it off the site Guru. If you don't like me that's fine. No need for this bullcrap crap you have going on about bringing up things like this where it isn't the place for them. I've been good at keeping off your back so why don't you chill out a bit?
Also for the record what does pointing out about Newer cars not having lighters have anything to do with Anything against Sony? Seriously man you say I'm running out of reason to dislike Sony? Seems like your stretching on finding any reason to make some comeback remarks about me. As you would say. "Lame"
Mewtwo
| ~It is what you do with the Gift of Life, that Determines who you are.~ |
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nalod6
(frozen)
| | #60 posted December 11, 2004 at 11:52pm (EST) |
Kaosu wrote:
> I love the red light on the SP, just briliant. It's useful as it lets you know your system
> is gonna die and you can get a chance to save/charge. Now the red light on the Nomad...that
> was just a cruel joke, something to let you know your system will die within the next
> 30 seconds...have a good day.
>
>
LOL
~nalod6
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Mewtwo
| | #61 posted December 12, 2004 at 12:08am (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Eh.
>
> I'll just continue to do what I am doing.
And what's that? Continuing to try and post some comeback statement or always make remarks about something about my opinions or comments? Then trying to come off saying I start things? Trying to make it look like it's always me who starts things? Is that what you'll continue to do?
> If you can't handle it, filter me then.
He probably should. So should I. We'd all probably benefit from it. And all the others on GTZ too because of all this bullcrap bickering either you or I have to cause because You don't like my opinions.
Mewtwo
| ~It is what you do with the Gift of Life, that Determines who you are.~ |
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Richie
 
| | #62 posted December 12, 2004 at 12:45am (EST) |
Kaosu wrote:
> That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look at them.
> People love Sony, don't count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
>
>
Yeah, I find it amusing to no end that the PlayStation was initally supposed to be a CDROM
drive add on for the SNES, but Nintendo didn't trust Sony.
Now Sony owns Nintendo in the console wars! 
Talk about Nintendo making a bad decision.
Jesus saves................and takes 1/2 damage. |
lordkaosu
| | #63 posted December 12, 2004 at 12:49am (EST) |
I'm sure they still kick themselves in the ass over that.
-Kaosu |
Kirby
| | #64 posted December 12, 2004 at 12:51am (EST) |
Richie wrote:
> Kaosu wrote:
>> That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look at
> them.
>> People love Sony, don't count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, I find it amusing to no end that the PlayStation was initally supposed to be a CDROM
> drive add on for the SNES, but Nintendo didn't trust Sony.
>
> Now Sony owns Nintendo in the console wars!
>
> Talk about Nintendo making a bad decision.
>
>
>
it was a bad descision to even consider them for the project, sony took the design and make it their own, so they stole it!
"Touching is good" - Nintendo
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Richie
| | #65 posted December 12, 2004 at 3:36am (EST) |
Kirby wrote:
> Richie wrote:
>> Kaosu wrote:
> |>> That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look
> at
>> them.
> |>> People love Sony, don't count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Yeah, I find it amusing to no end that the PlayStation was initally supposed to be
> a CDROM
>> drive add on for the SNES, but Nintendo didn't trust Sony.
>>
>> Now Sony owns Nintendo in the console wars!
>>
>> Talk about Nintendo making a bad decision.
>>
>>
>>
> it was a bad descision to even consider them for the project, sony took the design and
> make it their own, so they stole it!
>
>
>
They didn't steal it. It was their idea/design.
Nintendo declined them and went to another company (which didn't pan out)
so Sony said "screw you" and made their own console.
The rest is history.
Jesus saves................and takes 1/2 damage. |
Eggplant_Wizard
| | #66 posted December 12, 2004 at 5:24am (EST) |
Here's an explanation if you want one.
http://psx.ign.com/articles/060/060188p1.html |
Guru
| | #67 posted December 12, 2004 at 10:08am (EST) |
Mewtwo wrote:
> Guru wrote:
>> Ghaleon wrote:
> |>> WTF is with your childish attitude the last week or so? Who the hell said they would
>> never play it?
> |>>
>>
>> I mean, it's Sony. Who's gonna buy it? Am I right?
>>
> |>> I can defend my friend if I want, get over it. Better yet, I'll just filter your immature
>> ass.
>> |>
>>
>> Go for it.
>>
> |>> Just explain to me, by him stating that ONE FUDGING car doesn't have a lighter outlet/ashtrays,
>> is gonna bring
> |>> Sony down?
> |>>
> |>>
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Mewtwo's obvious bias against Sony is simply stupid. It's like he's running out of reasons
>> to dislike them.
>
> Yeah you go ahead and preach it Brother! Seriously...
>
> I think it really bothers you what I think for some reason.
Stopped about there.
>Well you know what I think you're and jerk. Does that
> bother you? Sorry. But I'm sure you don't think highly of me either but the differance is I don't care. Why does
> my opinions seem so bad to you that you feel the need to come down on me or such over them? Hmm? Why can't you
> simply just ignore them Guru? Do I get under your skin? Can't you just deal with it? And hey if not the filter
> button is there you know. I don't appreciate you comming down on practically every second comment I have and not
> my friends either.
>
> Keep it off the site Guru. If you don't like me that's fine. No need for this bullcrap crap you have going on
> about bringing up things like this where it isn't the place for them. I've been good at keeping off your back so
> why don't you chill out a bit?
>
> Also for the record what does pointing out about Newer cars not having lighters have anything to do with Anything
> against Sony? Seriously man you say I'm running out of reason to dislike Sony? Seems like your stretching on finding
> any reason to make some comeback remarks about me. As you would say. "Lame"
>
>
>
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Guru
| | #68 posted December 12, 2004 at 10:09am (EST) |
Mewtwo wrote:
> Guru wrote:
>> Eh.
>>
>> I'll just continue to do what I am doing.
>
> And what's that? Continuing to try and post some comeback statement or always make remarks about something about
> my opinions or comments? Then trying to come off saying I start things? Trying to make it look like it's always
> me who starts things? Is that what you'll continue to do?
>
>
My days is consumed by me trying to think of clever comebacks for your comments and biased remarks. Good job at figuring that out sir.
>> If you can't handle it, filter me then.
>
> He probably should. So should I. We'd all probably benefit from it. And all the others on GTZ too because of all
> this bullcrap bickering either you or I have to cause because You don't like my opinions.
>
>
Nobody else on GTZ seems to mind me. :)
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DR_SPOCK
| | #69 posted December 12, 2004 at 3:31pm (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Nobody else on GTZ seems to mind me. :)
I mind you. I mind Mewtwo too.
This post has a purpose.
Polarized! |
savior
| | #70 posted December 12, 2004 at 7:23pm (EST) |
Great... another discussion down the tubes. I'm finding it less and less enjoyable to visit this forum. |
Richie
| | #71 posted December 13, 2004 at 1:37am (EST) |
savior wrote:
> Great... another discussion down the tubes. I'm finding it less and less enjoyable
> to visit this forum.
It's been my limited experience that on a long enough scale EVERY console discussion
with degenerate into a rampant fanboyism dog-fest.
Jesus saves................and takes 1/2 damage. |
Mewtwo
| | #72 posted December 13, 2004 at 4:25am (EST) |
Richie wrote:
> savior wrote:
>> Great... another discussion down the tubes. I'm finding it less and less enjoyable
>> to visit this forum.
>
> It's been my limited experience that on a long enough scale EVERY console discussion
> with degenerate into a rampant fanboyism dog-fest.
>
>
Funny thing is I didn't even mention anything about dislike for Sony or anything in this topic. I just stated an observation about something I noticed and of course that automatically means something else and has to turn into something about being against Sony and all this fanboyism. Meh but you can think what whatever you want. .
Mewtwo
| ~It is what you do with the Gift of Life, that Determines who you are.~ |
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nalod6
(frozen)
| | #73 posted December 13, 2004 at 1:33pm (EST) |
Early reports are coming out that a large number of people are experiencing "dead-pixel" problems right off the bat 
~nalod6
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Guru
| | #74 posted December 13, 2004 at 1:36pm (EST) |
That's going to be a risk no matter what handheld you get.
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Sartori
| #75 posted December 13, 2004 at 7:25pm (EST)
edited December 13, 2004 at 7:25pm (EST) |
Wow.. you think that's bad news..
http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4010
Reports are coming in that the initial shipment of PSP units is seeing some defective units getting to the public.
These defects include:
# Dead pixels, as many as 3 per screen with the problem.
# Broken UMD drives.
# Analog nubs not working.
Sony has yet to make any official announcement about any of these issues, and about how users with any of these problems can recitfy them.
Be sure to check back for Sony's response to these issues.
UPDATE: More problems ahoy!
# Analog nubs not just not working, but actually falling off.
# PSP is turned on, but does not start up.
# Screen has air bubbles.
# Screen has dust on the inside.
Also, as for the UMD drive problems, some have reported the drive not closing completely, and the UMD, when the PSP is twisted, actually flies out!
Most retailers are stressing the fact that these problems don't occur in the majority of PSPs, but take caution in importing until Sony gives an official announcement.
Those are a lot of defects..
// Sartori
?|ƒWƒƒƒpƒ“?| |
Mewtwo
| | #76 posted December 13, 2004 at 7:34pm (EST) |
Must... Resist...
Mewtwo
| ~It is what you do with the Gift of Life, that Determines who you are.~ |
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Finn
| | #77 posted December 13, 2004 at 7:38pm (EST) |
Lets hope these issues get worked out before it is released over here.
Gametz wants you!
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Ghaleon
| | #78 posted December 13, 2004 at 7:58pm (EST) |
Avro wrote:
> Lets hope these issues get worked out before it is released over here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Let's hope Sony tries to fix their lackluster customer support record, and actually, fixes ALL these PSP's, for free, and sent each person a free demo, or at least a $30 off PSP item cupcom(sp  )
We akll knew(those that don't live in Sony's ass, that problems would be present in the PSP. It has happened in the PSX, PS2, and now this, the PSP. 99% of these "issues" should of been fixed BEFORE Japanese launch. But it is Sony afterall.
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Mewtwo
| | #79 posted December 13, 2004 at 8:08pm (EST) |
I wish this would actually lift the blinders on all those people who think Sony can do no wrong and see the crappy quality they actually Deliever. And people might actually see that Sony isn't all that. That in fact they rely on others to do quality games for them compared to delievering much of anything quality on their own.. Not even the systems. I wish this would show people that and maybe we'd start seeing people realising that. But most likely it probably wont have much impact as much as I'd like. It could be the begining to Sony's Downfall from the top... but not likely... :
Mewtwo
| ~It is what you do with the Gift of Life, that Determines who you are.~ |
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Guru
| | #80 posted December 13, 2004 at 9:00pm (EST) |
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