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savior
| | #1 posted December 8, 2004 at 11:34pm (EST) |
http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=3978
Looks like there are some significant load times for most/all of the demos. That could equal serious battery drain and gamer annoyance. Sounds pretty bad to me. |
Captain
  
 
| #81 posted December 13, 2004 at 9:15pm (EST)
edited December 13, 2004 at 9:20pm (EST) |
Sartori wrote:
> Wow.. you think that's bad news..
>
> http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4010
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>
> Reports are coming in that the initial shipment of PSP units is seeing some defective
> units getting to the public.
>
> These defects include:
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> # Dead pixels, as many as 3 per screen with the problem.
> # Broken UMD drives.
> # Analog nubs not working.
>
> Sony has yet to make any official announcement about any of these issues, and about how
> users with any of these problems can recitfy them.
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> Be sure to check back for Sony's response to these issues.
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> UPDATE: More problems ahoy!
>
> # Analog nubs not just not working, but actually falling off.
> # PSP is turned on, but does not start up.
> # Screen has air bubbles.
> # Screen has dust on the inside.
>
> Also, as for the UMD drive problems, some have reported the drive not closing completely,
> and the UMD, when the PSP is twisted, actually flies out!
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> Most retailers are stressing the fact that these problems don't occur in the majority
> of PSPs, but take caution in importing until Sony gives an official announcement.
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>
> Those are a lot of defects..
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>
Nitpickers! Back in the old days, we would call that part of the experience...
(wistfully remembers about the Game Boy with bad contrast dial, dead pixel lines)
That's pretty bad. Nothing that they won't have any problem sorting out before long, however. Not that I really trust Sony, but having their consoles going to crap in the first week is a problem. Seems like the Japanese didn't really care.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/BUSINESS/12/13/japan.sonyp...
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nihon
 
 
| | #82 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:32pm (EST) |
I think people like to jump on any little thing that goes wrong in Sony's world because they are the biggest fish in the electronics market. If Nintendo was the biggest fish, everyone would be all over them, too.
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nalod6
(frozen)
| | #83 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:39pm (EST) |
Sony seemed to rush the PSP production to launch it near the DS launch (in Japan). Hopefully Sony will correct their mistakes, or it could be the death of a system before it had a chance.
~nalod6
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Mewtwo
 
| | #84 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:47pm (EST) |
nihon wrote:
> I think people like to jump on any little thing that goes wrong in Sony's world because
> they are the biggest fish in the electronics market. If Nintendo was the biggest fish,
> everyone would be all over them, too.
Or maybe people (Like me) like to jump on any little thing that goes wrong in Sony's World because of how their Attitude is that they are number 1 and they act like it's all them. Then also how they treat their customers (all those hassles with PS2's etc) and also wont admit to any mistakes hardly without having to have like tons of people finally complain to the point where it's so ridiculous etc etc... Just maybe...
At least when Nintendo does have problems or something is wrong they admit to it and try to correct it or do something about it. Perfect example there was an error in the shipping of the Metroid Bonus Disc to Canadians. Some ended up having to pay a Duty fee because of an error Nintendo did. Granted If those people wanted the disc anyone could say it was fair of them to pay for it. However Nintendo actually realised the error and made up for it by mailing Cheques for the amount that the recievers had to pay. I was one of said people and I didn't even have to say anything to Nintendo about it (as in complain that i had to pay) they just sent me an e-mail saying there was an error and if I was affected to tell them. (Which I did) and was reimbursed. The point is this is what makes Nintendo so different to me. I seriously doubt had it been Sony that they would have done the same thing. Maybe ONLY after people would have complained to them would they have even done anything.. IF even then. I just don't see Sony being as nice a company as Nintendo. But again that's my personal opinion.
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nihon
| | #85 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:51pm (EST) |
I think you would still jump all over Sony even if they were the nicest people in the world.
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Mewtwo
| | #86 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:51pm (EST) |
nihon wrote:
> I think you would still jump all over Sony even if they were the nicest people in the
> world.
Nah then I wouldn't have a reason to. Because then they'd be more like Nintendo. 
Mewtwo
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Mewtwo
| #87 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:54pm (EST)
edited December 13, 2004 at 10:54pm (EST) |
Oh By the way it's not so much a thing against SONY as a whole. But the SCEA Part. The Game Division. I have no problems buying a Sony Product at all. However their quality in the SCEA deparment like the consoles and stuff just doesn't seem to be there. They can make good TV's, Stereo's, Etc... so why not game consoles that wont fudge up and have so many problems? (The irony here is that My PS2 is still doing just fine.... and I haven't had an issue with sony quality wise.. ) Point is I still just see it as the whole "Attitude" they have. Which I am entitled to my opinons.
Mewtwo
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nihon
| | #88 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:55pm (EST) |
Well then why are you bashing so much here? The PSP isn't an SCEA product (yet). You must stop all bashing until it is. 
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nihon
| | #89 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:56pm (EST) |
And Sega of America sucks, too.
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Mewtwo
| | #90 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:56pm (EST) |
nihon wrote:
> Well then why are you bashing so much here? The PSP isn't an SCEA product (yet). You must
> stop all bashing until it is.
Oops.. my bad. I mean SCE and SCEA. (Basically I mean the game divisions compared to the Company as a whole)
Mewtwo
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nihon
| | #91 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:57pm (EST) |
Too late. You have to stop until January/February when it comes out over here.
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Mewtwo
| | #92 posted December 13, 2004 at 10:58pm (EST) |
nihon wrote:
> Too late. You have to stop until January/February when it comes out over here.
Fat Chance at that...
Mewtwo
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Sartori
| | #93 posted December 13, 2004 at 11:56pm (EST) |
nihon wrote:
> I think people like to jump on any little thing that goes wrong in Sony's world because they are the biggest fish
> in the electronics market. If Nintendo was the biggest fish, everyone would be all over them, too.
>
>
People were all over Nintendo's dead pixel problem, too. Criticism isn't exclusive here.
// Sartori
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nihon
| | #94 posted December 14, 2004 at 12:31am (EST) |
I still think that Sony gets more flak because they are #1.
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Sartori
| | #95 posted December 14, 2004 at 12:43am (EST) |
nihon wrote:
> I still think that Sony gets more flak because they are #1.
>
>
Yes, but..
Dead pixel and immediate apology with repair options
vs
Dead pixels, broken analog nubs, "popping" UMDs, power/boot problems. . . with potential for apology/repair (hopefully!).
Number 1 or not - are the problems not in favor of Sony here? I'm open to your assessment.
// Sartori
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Mewtwo
| #96 posted December 14, 2004 at 12:47am (EST)
edited December 14, 2004 at 12:48am (EST) |
Sartori wrote:
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> Yes, but..
>
> Dead pixel and immediate apology with repair options
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> vs
>
> Dead pixels, broken analog nubs, "popping" UMDs, power/boot problems. . . with potential
> for apology/repair (hopefully!).
>
> Number 1 or not - are the problems not in favor of Sony here? I'm open to your assessment.
>
>
See this is part of my point too. I guess Sartori just said it in a much easier, defined and clearer way.
Mewtwo
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Richie
 
| | #97 posted December 14, 2004 at 2:33am (EST) |
Mewtwo wrote:
> Sartori wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but..
>>
>> Dead pixel and immediate apology with repair options
>>
>> vs
>>
>> Dead pixels, broken analog nubs, "popping" UMDs, power/boot problems. . . with potential
>> for apology/repair (hopefully!).
>>
>> Number 1 or not - are the problems not in favor of Sony here? I'm open to your assessment.
>>
>>
>
> See this is part of my point too. I guess Sartori just said it in a much easier, defined
> and clearer way.
>
>
>
Not to mention your rampant dislike of Sony for some reason.
You even said, a couple posts up there, that your PS2 hasn't given you any problems. 
So why are you doging about Sony all the time?
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Finn
| | #98 posted December 14, 2004 at 3:05am (EST) |
I have found Playstations support fine, when I had to call in and get my PS2 fixed because of the DRE's they were cool about it, and it actually felt like I was talking to someone that had a brain.... Not to mention I had my replacement PS2 within 5 days of me actually sending the defective one back 
I have registered many Sony products, needed support on a few items (mini disk and Clie support) but have only had one other issue with hardware (mini disk) that was non PS related and 2 total. Every time I have called Sony they have been great,
Now this is what I find funny, Microsoft has great support for there PC mice and OS (when I have called) but I cannot stand he quality of there software, yet there there X-box support leaves something to be desired. I had to call them a number of times and each time I have talked to some brain dead monkey that could not find his ass with both hands....
Worst Tech support (in no paticular order):
Linksys (one of the reasons I will never by another product from them)
Microsoft (X-box)
Telus (Canadian phone company, probably the worst)
Fido (Cell phone, right up there with Telus)
Best:
Sony
SMC (reason I will go with these guys for most if not all my networking needs)
Shaw (my region at least)
Nintendo
Microsoft (Non X-box related)
On a side note, another thing I find funny is Sony gets knocked for quality issues and attitude yet just about everyone fails to look at Microsofts monopolistic, poor quality, attitude when it comes to there PC software (OS, word suites) heck there actions there dwarf what ever Sony has done.. but is conviently overlooked. And like it was said Sony is not the first to have issues like these (though it happens a tad bit to often ) the people that dog and complain fail to mention other companies downfalls and mistakes but rip Sony like they were the first to do it!
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Sartori
| | #99 posted December 14, 2004 at 3:06am (EST) |
Who overlooks Microsoft's transgressions?
Not I.
// Sartori
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Finn
| | #100 posted December 14, 2004 at 8:59am (EST) |
You asking me to name names I could go back through the forums and get them but really it's to much work for the point I am trying to make. But Sony does seemed to get ripped on like there are the only company out there that does stuff like this... But Microsofts flagrant quality and monopolistic ways are pretty much always never brought up... The best reason I can think of is mainly because they want to make Sony look far worse then they are.....
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Sartori
| | #101 posted December 14, 2004 at 11:27am (EST) |
Well, fair's fair - I dislike them both. They're both bad news.
// Sartori
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Captain
| | #102 posted December 14, 2004 at 11:52am (EST) |
Sony replaced my PS2. That was pretty cool.
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dracula
| | #103 posted December 14, 2004 at 1:42pm (EST) |
sony replaced my ps2 for the DREs, and nintendo gives out the 72 pin connectors if you call them and say your NES is busted and needs a new pin connector to work.
My xbox is playing great, it easily gets the most play of any of my systems.
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grkangel10
(frozen)
| #104 posted December 14, 2004 at 2:42pm (EST)
edited December 14, 2004 at 2:43pm (EST) |
Will Nintendo give the 72 pin connectors free or do you have to pay for them?
EDIT: Because free is good. |
Mewtwo
| | #105 posted December 14, 2004 at 7:13pm (EST) |
Richie wrote:
> Mewtwo wrote:
>> Sartori wrote:
> |>>
> |>> Yes, but..
> |>>
> |>> Dead pixel and immediate apology with repair options
> |>>
> |>> vs
> |>>
> |>> Dead pixels, broken analog nubs, "popping" UMDs, power/boot problems. . . with potential
> |>> for apology/repair (hopefully!).
> |>>
> |>> Number 1 or not - are the problems not in favor of Sony here? I'm open to your assessment.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> See this is part of my point too. I guess Sartori just said it in a much easier, defined
>> and clearer way.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Not to mention your rampant dislike of Sony for some reason.
>
> You even said, a couple posts up there, that your PS2 hasn't given you any problems.
>
> So why are you doging about Sony all the time?
Do you actually READ all my post? It's quite clearly stated that my dislike for Sony is because of the Companies "Attitude" and how they handle things. How they are.
Mewtwo
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Finn
| | #106 posted December 14, 2004 at 8:01pm (EST) |
It's the same way I feel about Microshaft, shody business practice, poor products, lackluster quality, manopolistic .... yet I don't hate the X-box, I have seperated the two (though I must say that was not always the case, back in those early days)
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Guru
| | #107 posted December 14, 2004 at 9:32pm (EST) |
Avro wrote:
> It's the same way I feel about Microshaft, shody business practice, poor products, lackluster quality, manopolistic
> .... yet I don't hate the X-box, I have seperated the two (though I must say that was not always the case, back
> in those early days)
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>
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Eh. I don't really hate MS (though I really don't care for XBox much), Sony, or Nintendo.
I probably like XBox the least due to the other two systems having much better games.
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Finn
| | #108 posted December 14, 2004 at 9:44pm (EST) |
I hate MS with a passion, but I like the X-box but much like you I prefer the PS2 and Gamecube because they IMO have better software.
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Guru
| #109 posted December 14, 2004 at 9:47pm (EST)
edited December 14, 2004 at 9:47pm (EST) |
Eh.
If Xbox had RPGs (good ones mind you) I'd be all over it.
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grass07
| | #110 posted December 14, 2004 at 11:53pm (EST) |
Ridge racer on the PSP is better than Ridge Racer on the PS2
No defects at all, very happy with this purchase and NO I didnt pay over retail for it.
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nalod6
(frozen)
| | #111 posted December 15, 2004 at 12:52am (EST) |
Is that a stethescope? 
~nalod6
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j_factor
| | #112 posted December 15, 2004 at 1:20am (EST) |
Ridge Racers PSP has Rally-X on it. That makes it good. Even if the game itself sucks.
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grass07
| | #113 posted December 15, 2004 at 2:40am (EST) |
nalod6 wrote:
> Is that a stethescope?
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> ~nalod6
>
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No, my penile pump from Austin Powers........
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sandpaperback
| | #114 posted December 15, 2004 at 12:54pm (EST) |
That video of the UMDs popping out is priceless. I was just on my way to post the same article.
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mackey
| | #115 posted December 15, 2004 at 8:35pm (EST) |
Well, Sony accomplished one thing rather well--making the prettiest handheld ever.
Whether the hardware can make the grade, remains to be seen.
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nihon
| | #116 posted December 15, 2004 at 9:40pm (EST) |
Now people will be obsessed with not leaving fingerprints all over it. 
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Guru
| | #117 posted December 15, 2004 at 10:26pm (EST) |
Sony also eats babies. |
Sartori
| | #118 posted December 15, 2004 at 10:53pm (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Sony also eats babies.
All the time.
// Sartori
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nihon
| | #119 posted December 16, 2004 at 12:23am (EST) |
Tastes like chicken...oh, wait, it is chicken...
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j_factor
| | #120 posted December 16, 2004 at 1:31am (EST) |
silent_mackey wrote:
> Well, Sony accomplished one thing rather well--making the prettiest handheld ever.
OMG UR WRONG!
Much prettier.
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