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Topic   Zelda vs. Mario

BloodPuppetX
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* 27-Jan-2018(#1)
Which of these Nintendo franchises do you consider to be the best overall?

Zelda positive
Mario negative

I only got the idea for this topic after seeing that I could use positive to represent Zelda and negative to represent Mario lol. I'm talking about the main series in each (so action-adventure Zelda games vs. Mario platformers).

Here are the Wikipedia entries that show the main games I'm referring to:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zeld...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario

So pretty even, in terms of overall output.


BloodPuppetX
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2-Feb-2018(#81)
After that turtle shell that just knocked me out of 1st place in MK 8, I vote Bowser.

A Link Between Worlds positive

Or

Super Mario 3D Land negative

3DS Battle

KCPenguins
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2-Feb-2018(#82)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> After that turtle shell that just knocked me out of 1st place in MK 8, I vote Bowser.
>
> A Link Between Worlds positive
>
> Or
>
> Super Mario 3D Land negative
>
> 3DS Battle
>
>


This should be a landslide..
benstylus
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* 3-Feb-2018(#83)
I 100% cleared Mario 3D Land. Mario & Luigi both cleared every level with top of the flag.

I think I finished 3 dungeons in Zelda before moving on to something else.
bonham2
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6-Feb-2018(#84)
KCPenguins wrote:
> BloodPuppetX wrote:
>> After that turtle shell that just knocked me out of 1st place in MK 8, I vote
> Bowser.
>>
>> A Link Between Worlds positive
>>
>> Or
>>
>> Super Mario 3D Land negative
>>
>> 3DS Battle
>>
>>
>
>
> This should be a landslide..

This one may be the toughest one for me to choose. I picked Zelda down the line for each option, and I ultimately picked Zelda here too because ALBW is a fantastic game. The thing is Mario 3D Land is/was one of my favorite Mario games ever when it first came out. I prefer 3D World now, but 3D Land was really great.

If you were to begin ranking Mario vs. Zelda in the 3D games, I might lean towards Mario on a few options. Specifically, I'm thinking of the Galaxy games vs. Skyward Sword.
BloodPuppetX
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6-Feb-2018(#85)
Ok then.

Skyward Sword positive

Or

Super Mario Galaxy negative

BloodPuppetX
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6-Feb-2018(#86)
Twilight Princess positive

Or

Super Mario Galaxy 2 negative

bonham2
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6-Feb-2018(#87)
The Mario Galaxy games were incredible. Twilight Princess was really good, but ultimately it felt a little too familiar. Skyward Sword had noble ambitions and has it's merits, but it's probably my least favorite 3D Zelda game out there (maybe tied with Majora's Mask).
KCPenguins
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6-Feb-2018(#88)
Weird I thought 3d Land was a solid effort, but lacked in so many ways. 3d World fixed nearly all my complaints. Same goes for NSMB (DS/Wii) and NSMBU. I hope whatever follows Odyssey takes a similar leap.
bonham2
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6-Feb-2018(#89)
Yeah, 3D World blew Labs out of the water. 3D Land was great when it came out. I love how they felt like 2D levels in a 3D space.
BloodPuppetX
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7-Feb-2018(#90)
Here are a couple of DS games that sold really well, but don't seem very popular

Phantom Hourglass positive

Or

New Super Mario Bros. negative

BloodPuppetX
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7-Feb-2018(#91)
Wind Waker positive

Or

New Super Mario Bros. U negative

(Best Mario game ever according to that list Admiral linked to earlier)

bonham2
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7-Feb-2018(#92)
I actually despise the two DS Zelda games, so I'll close NSMB out of spite. Wind Easier takes the nod over NSMBU, but that's a tough choice. I love the Wii U game.
dustin11
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7-Feb-2018(#93)
Wind Waker was a really fun game, I'm glad I got to play it again on the Wii U.
Scott
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10-Feb-2018(#94)
Admiral wrote:
> Scott wrote:
> @Scott
>
>> Top 3 Zelda Games
>>
>> 1) Link's Awakening
>> 2) Oracle of Seasons
>> 3) A Link Between Worlds
>>
>
> yes So much love for the 2D Zeldas. Gotta admit, I like OoT, really like BotW,
> kinda like WW....but man, 2D Zelda is WHERE IT'S AT. Oracle of Seasons not making
> the cut for you though?

Yessir, I love me some 2D Zelda! I hate that they don't get much appreciation beyond ALttP and ALBW. So many people haven't played the Gameboy titles at all. I did put Oracle of Seasons on there though, did you mean Oracle of Ages? That's my number 4 smile

>>
>> Top 3 Mario Games
>>
>> I really hate to rank the 2D and 3D Mario games together, but if I have to...
>>
>> 1) Super Mario Bros. 3
>> 2) Super Mario Odyssey
>> 3) Super Mario 3D World
>>
>
> You said below Super Mario World is near perfection!!! That says alot about Odyssey
> and 3D World yes

Yeah! Like I said I hate to rank them together, because Super Mario World really deserves to be on there. All 4 of those games are really close for me. When ranking just the 2D Mario games, SMB3 just barley edges out SMW.

Scott
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10-Feb-2018(#95)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Link's Awakening positive
>
> Or
>
> Super Mario Bros. 3 negative
>
> Battle of @Scott's favorites

Oh man, this may be the hardest one yet. I have to go with LA though, basically for the same reasons I chose Zelda over Mario. There's just so much more to it as a game than a platformer can offer. My top 10 games of all time fluctuates a lot, but it's usually the same three games in the top 3: LA, Secret of Mana, and Blaster Master. SMB3 is usually 4th or 5th.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Ganondorf positive
>
> Or
>
> Bowser negative
>
> Who's the best villain? I'm going to have to think about this one...

Ganondorf, easily. Bowser is pretty lame, really.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> A Link Between Worlds positive
>
> Or
>
> Super Mario 3D Land negative
>
> 3DS Battle

Definitely ALBW. I'm actually surprised that not many people are singing SM3DL's praises here. I didn't play it until a couple years after it was released, and all I ever heard was people going on and on about how amazing it was. When I finally played it, I liked it a lot, but didn't think it was amazing or anything. I had several minor issues with it (most of which, SM3DW fixed). ALBW however was just near perfection. I'm still not a fan or renting/buying most of the special items you need, but it really didn't affect my overall enjoyment of the game at all.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Ok then.
>
> Skyward Sword positive
>
> Or
>
> Super Mario Galaxy negative

This one seems pretty unfair. You put one of the least liked 3D Zelda games against one of the most loved 3D Mario games lol. Anyway, it's easily Galaxy for me.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Twilight Princess positive
>
> Or
>
> Super Mario Galaxy 2 negative

This is tough. Twilight Princess was my favorite 3D Zelda game for BotW came out. I actually haven't gone back and re-played this one like I have other 3D Zelda games, so I'm not sure if I'll feel the same way about it as I do the others. For now, it's still great in my mind.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Here are a couple of DS games that sold really well, but don't seem very popular
>
> Phantom Hourglass positive
>
> Or
>
> New Super Mario Bros. negative

NSMB for me. It hasn't aged greatly, since subsequent NSMB games improved a lot, but I thought it was fantastic when it came out. At the time, I didn't think we'd ever get 2D Mario games again, so I was ecstatic when it was released. I 100%'d it twice, back to back. Despite it's flaws, I think it's still enjoyable now. I just re-played it last year and enjoyed it a lot.

As for PH, I really hate that they forced motion controls the way they did. It sucks though, because it's actually a fun game when you get past that. If they had just used the motion controls for marking your map, setting your boomerang route, solving puzzles, etc, this game would be a ton better.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Wind Waker positive
>
> Or
>
> New Super Mario Bros. U negative
>
> (Best Mario game ever according to that list Admiral linked to earlier)

Definitely don't agree with that list, but it's easily the best NSMB game. Anyway, I'll still choose it over Wind Waker. Wind Waker is one of my least favorite Zelda games.

Admiral
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11-Feb-2018(#96)
Scott wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
>> @Scott
>>
> |>> Top 3 Zelda Games
> |>>
> |>> 1) Link's Awakening
> |>> 2) Oracle of Seasons
> |>> 3) A Link Between Worlds
> |>>
>>
>> yes So much love for the 2D Zeldas. Gotta admit, I like OoT, really like BotW,
>> kinda like WW....but man, 2D Zelda is WHERE IT'S AT. Oracle of Seasons not making
>> the cut for you though?
>
> Yessir, I love me some 2D Zelda! I hate that they don't get much appreciation beyond
> ALttP and ALBW. So many people haven't played the Gameboy titles at all. I did put
> Oracle of Seasons on there though, did you mean Oracle of Ages? That's my number
> 4 smile

raspberry yeah, that's what I meant!

Topic   Zelda vs. Mario