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Topic   The Retro Trade Thread Nintendo Entertainment System Super Nintendo NEC PC Engine Sega PlayStation NEC (company) Sega Dreamcast Sega CD

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This thread was originally created to encourage traders here at GTZ to do more trading, especially retro related stuff. It has turned into a lot more and I am so grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread and have kept it going for nearly 6 months now. I hope this thread will continue to thrive and everyone who reads/participates in this thread will gain some value or knowledge out of it.

We will still have Trade lists up here, though it's been a while since anyone updated. I encourage everyone to look over their lists and post updates.
There is also a section for gorgeous pictures of game rooms that active participants of this thread have shared. Feel free to share some pics of your collection or game room.
I will be adding another section for information regarding video quality of retro gaming systems on modern displays and how to improve them.
There is rather some extensive discussion regarding how to improve the display quality of retro gaming systems and if you are new to this like I am, you will find it very informative.

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GTZ has become a marketplace where the most commonly traded commodity is PayPal. I want to start an effort to get some trades going and to discuss some good games perhaps you never heard of or interested in but want to discover/know more of. For example, I just got intto shmups after years of ignoring the genre and I love to discover new(to me) and rediscover old ones(Sonic Wings comes to mind).

No pressure here. Feel free to discuss anything retro. Perhaps throw out some WTTF targets and what you have to offer. I am sick of browsing people's year old Available lists.

Some examples:

- WTTF/WTB/LF
- What you think is awesome game/series/whatever
- Potential games you have up for trade
- Pics of what you have/what you would love to get/what you think is the bestest awesomest game ever
- Show off your latest finds/adds to your collection

3rd Generation: Nintendo Entertainment System Famicom Sega Master System Atari
4th Generation: Super Nintendo Super Famicom Sega Genesis Mega Drive (Japan) Sega CD Sega Mega CD NEC TurboGrafx-16 NEC PC Engine Neo Geo CD-i (Compact Disc Interactive)
5th Generation: PlayStation Sega Saturn Nintendo 64 3DO Sega 32X Virtual Boy Atari Jaguar NEC PC-FX
6th Generation: PlayStation 2 Sega Dreamcast Microsoft Xbox Nintendo GameCube
Handheld: PlayStation Portable Game Boy Game Boy Color Game Boy Advance Nintendo DS Game Gear Nokia N-Gage Atari Lynx

Info on Improving the Quality of Video Output For Retro Systems on Modern Displays
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In the meantime , check out:

My Experience with Upscaling (DVDO Processors)
https://www.youtube.com/user/mylifeingaming

Reference Links
http://retrorgb.com/
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

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The PC Engine Bible
Neo Geo Master List
Famicom Game List

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Games Beat in 2017
Lunar's Completed Games

Sega CD Sega CD - Lords of Thunder (2-3-17)
PlayStation 2 Japanese PS2 - Mushihimesama (2-15-17)
Sega Saturn Japanese Saturn - X-Men vs. Street Fighter (2-17-17)
Neo Geo Neo Geo CD - Sonic Wings 3 (4-17-17)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Red Alert (5-16-2017)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Seirei Senshi Spriggan (5-17-2017)
PlayStation Portable Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting (5-19-2017)
Sega Saturn Street Fighter Alpha (6-3-2017) w/Ryu on 4 Stars
image Arcade Gears Wonder 3 (7-24-2017)
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Yamato
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Uzume
PlayStation 4 Root Letter (7-31-2017) Crossing Paths Ending
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (8-4-2017) w/Hinome
Super Famicom Ghost Sweeper Mikami (8-7-2017)


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Lunar
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9-Aug-2017(#161)
I never liked the Saturn 3D controller/Dreamcast controller.

tonymack21
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9-Aug-2017(#162)
i must say the lack of a second analog stick is my main gripe, and along with the og og xbox controller was pretty rough

Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#163)
Lunar wrote:
> I never liked the Saturn 3D controller/Dreamcast controller.
>
>

They are both generally awful.
sharif
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9-Aug-2017(#164)
tonymack21 wrote:
> i must say the lack of a second analog stick is my main gripe, and along with the
> og og xbox controller was pretty rough
>
>

THE BIG DUKE

man that thing had the worst d-pad ever

Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#165)
sharif wrote:
> tonymack21 wrote:
>> i must say the lack of a second analog stick is my main gripe, and along with
> the
>> og og xbox controller was pretty rough
>>
>>
>
> THE BIG DUKE
>
> man that thing had the worst d-pad ever
>
>

The Gamecube would like a word in this discussion.
sharif
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9-Aug-2017(#166)
Gypsy wrote:
> sharif wrote:
>> tonymack21 wrote:
> |>> i must say the lack of a second analog stick is my main gripe, and along with
>> the
> |>> og og xbox controller was pretty rough
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> THE BIG DUKE
>>
>> man that thing had the worst d-pad ever
>>
>>
>
> The Gamecube would like a word in this discussion.

You're not wrong. I guess it's just way too small vs lopsided and misshapen.

Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#167)
Yeah. Both suck. At least there are lots of options for Xbox controllers.
tonymack21
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9-Aug-2017(#168)
ya i liked the controller S for the og. but ya the dc, ogx and gc all had something terrible about their pads, all the while sony was rocking along with the DS2, if you think about it the dual shock has really stood the test of time. i really hope they never deviate from the back design i love love love the ds4.

Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#169)
Only complaint with the DS4 is that blinding light and suspect battery life (which I hear has been fixed). Great controller.
sharif
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9-Aug-2017(#170)
The DS4 is the first of the dualshocks that fit really well in my hands. I really like it. If I ever pick up Tekken 7 for PS4 I'll just use the DS4.

Lunar
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9-Aug-2017(#171)
All the new controllers and pro controllers are good for everything EXCEPT fighters. Well Capcom or fighters that require 6 buttons.

sharif
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9-Aug-2017(#172)
I'm not good enough at fighting games to justify buying a stick.

tonymack21
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9-Aug-2017(#173)
lol, we were just talking about tekken with a pad vs a stick. tekken is a great fighter to play with a pad, until the highest levels in the world its not a significant difference unless you are amazingly good.

you can turn the light down on the ds4 as well in the settings, I keep it on the lowest and its not too bad and helps battery life.

DefaultGen
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9-Aug-2017(#174)
This will probably be a piece of garbage but it's a lot cheaper than a $100 Hori controller:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1247448559/ne...

tonymack21
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9-Aug-2017(#175)
wow that actually looks kinda nice. i still don't know if i can ever go back to 3d games that don't have two sticks but that looks like the next best thing

FrictionPin
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9-Aug-2017(#176)
Anybody picking up the Hori stick for the Switch? Or maybe this one?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...
DefaultGen
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9-Aug-2017(#177)
FrictionPin wrote:
> Anybody picking up the Hori stick for the Switch? Or maybe this one?

Did we get to the point where third party joystick/buttons aren't total garbage? The last time I went shopping for joysticks was the PS2 era and it was pretty much your choice of Sanwa, Seimitsu, or nonsense.

DiamondDave
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9-Aug-2017(#178)
Hori makes good crap. They fudgeed up something with the Switch sticks though, people preordered them five minutes after they were listed and they were still "back-ordered" for some reason come launch.
RobotVM
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9-Aug-2017(#179)
Anyone have any experience with the jackdyi Everdrives?

Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#180)
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@dustin11 @tonymack21 I know you guys were wanting to see this. :)

Anyone else with sticks, post em up. cool smile
Tad
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9-Aug-2017(#181)
That is gorgeous!

tonymack21
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9-Aug-2017(#182)
Tad wrote:
> That is gorgeous!
>
>

Woooow


sailorneorune
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* 9-Aug-2017(#183)
@Gypsy - I'd love to do that with a Switch arcade stick and some of my art. Or the Ace Attorney-style Iwata art in my bio (which is from a Nintendo Direct, if a higher res version could be found).

I have an Agetec Sega Dreamcast stick, and Hori sticks for PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii.

Gypsy
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* 9-Aug-2017(#184)
I have a 360+ in there. So I get to use it with Sega Dreamcast too. I'll be buying a Chronus Max very soon now that they have worked out a lot of the kinks AND it will also let me use my Logitech G27 on PlayStation 4 All the buttons, the gate and the stick are custom. The only stock thing is the shell, lol.

@sailorneorune I can check my records and see if the site I used is still around if you'd like. Edit: Actually, this might not be doable. I don't think I would have deleted those emails though.
Gredler
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9-Aug-2017(#185)
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Love this thing :)
Lunar
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9-Aug-2017(#186)
Its hard for me to play fighters on a stick now. Im so used to comboing with a controller. Even switching to a different controller i can see the difference in execution.

Im mostly wanting a cheapish stick to test out how much better(if at all) with shmups. Its sad when i realized i can dodge bullets better on my phone with touch controls than i can on a control pad.

Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#187)
Gredler wrote:
> [imgt w=5312 h=2988]http://i.imgur.com/Q4sN5Ws.jpg[/imgt]
>
> Love this thing :)

I'm now rock hard. This is sweet.
FrictionPin
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* 9-Aug-2017(#188)
Primary one that I use for MAME...it's the 360 version
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Pro Fightstick (have a TE2 Street Fighter one too somewhere that I can't find right now)
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Have a few others for the older consoles, Genesis, Saturn, etc.
FrictionPin
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9-Aug-2017(#189)
I'm planning on getting the Hori one for the Switch, not sure I want to take a chance on the $80 8bitdo one though. I'd love to get my hands on the Killer Instinct TE2 as well sometime but those things are crazy spencive.
Lunar
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9-Aug-2017(#190)
Wow didn't realize how many people use sticks.

FrictionPin
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9-Aug-2017(#191)
I prefer the sticks on shmups just as much as on fighting games.
Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#192)
FrictionPin wrote:
> I prefer the sticks on shmups just as much as on fighting games.

Hell yeah. I have a Hori Fight Stick SS for Saturn. Didn't bother posting pics of that as it's 100% stock.

I really wish PCE sticks were cheaper.
FrictionPin
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9-Aug-2017(#193)
I wish someone would invent an adapter box that had firmware to map one of these newer sticks to the old console ports. Something that could save profile mappings that you could switch through with a single button to use a new fight stick on 4th/5th gen.
Lunar
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9-Aug-2017(#194)
yea, I'd hopefully get one that is compatible with the most amount of systems. I would say PC compatibility is a must since at the very least, I can emulate. Not to mention the tons of digital games I have on Steam and GOG

FrictionPin
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* 9-Aug-2017(#195)
Lunar wrote:
> yea, I'd hopefully get one that is compatible with the most amount of systems. I
> would say PC compatibility is a must since at the very least, I can emulate. Not
> to mention the tons of digital games I have on Steam and GOG
>

I'd say get an X360 version as they are basically plug and play with a PC. Actually I've never tried an XBONE stick so they might be the same.

The Qanba N1 is a decent PC stick, entry level. Mayflash aren't too bad for entry level either but I can't remember if they have a 360 model, probably do. And then there is the Hori Mini. All of those retail from about $60-80 each and should be good ones to try out to see if you want to get into the higher end models or if they fit the bill for ya.

*Edit - actually that 8bitdo one I mentioned earlier is in this range too but I don't think there are any reviews on it yet.
Gypsy
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9-Aug-2017(#196)
Buy a decent shell, then buy all your own buttons, gate etc..

And yeah 360 sticks will work with PC.
BleedingViolet
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9-Aug-2017(#197)
Lunar wrote:
> Wow didn't realize how many people use sticks.
>
>

We all pretty much grew up playing on Ataris or in the arcades anyways so even if we aren't using sticks now we did at some point.

But I'm with you on the whole switching thing, it's almost not possible to pull off the same moves with the same precision if you aren't using the same controller all the time.

I play an upper mid level Mileena on Mortal Kombat 9 on 360 and I've won thousands of online (I win at least 4 out of every 5 or better and have had streaks of over 50 wins in a row several times) ranked matches with her all with a basic 360 controller the one that came with the slim. BUT if I switch to this Mortal Kombat X controller or this Chun Li Street Fighter pad I have for 360 I can't even let myself play online with either of them. Now the combos in mk9 aren't as tech heavy as certain SF combos usually but in order to play and win at a high level in MK9 your footsies have to be on point and you have to have split second reactions to win against high level players especially when you are counterpicked.

That being said just for fun I like different control types occasionally including sticks when I have a chance to play an arcade game or whatever. But for any serious gaming sessions where I will lose without perfect timing (like super meatboy) I have to be playing with an original 360 or Xbox one controller. They are very similar so the differences are minimal. Even though most people hate the 360 dpad it's all I'm decent with anymore.
FrictionPin
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9-Aug-2017(#198)
Gypsy wrote:
> Buy a decent shell, then buy all your own buttons, gate etc..
>

I'm not sure I'd go that route on a first attempt but certainly the way to go once you decide you need a stick. Still need to swap my super sensitive Sanwa buttons on my Atrox with the heavier force trigger Hayabusa buttons. A couple of mine are so sensitive just lightly resting your finger on the edge will trigger the button, doesn't even feel like you pressed it at all.
Lunar
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10-Aug-2017(#199)
Looking to trade, I still have a few of my NEC PC Engine and NEC Super CD-ROM 2 games, as well as a few PS1 RPGs I want to get rid of.
Send PM if interested. I will check lists.

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tonymack21
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10-Aug-2017(#200)
anyone want the LRG shantae ps4 games before I send them to evilbay?
looks like these, has the stickers and cards.
obviously not going to charge that ebay price lol

figure its a long shot these things are pricey but I hate to not offer and someone would have wanted them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shantae-Risky-039-s-Reveng...

nibbler1
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10-Aug-2017(#201)
This is a long shot but would anyone be interested in trading my boxed complete Frameister X-RGB Mini for their Analogue NT Mini? I would add $ to even up the trade.

If not I MIGHT be interested in simply buying an Analogue NT Mini.

Please PM me if interested. yes

Topic   The Retro Trade Thread Nintendo Entertainment System Super Nintendo NEC PC Engine Sega PlayStation NEC (company) Sega Dreamcast Sega CD