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Topic   The Retro Trade Thread Nintendo Entertainment System Super Nintendo NEC PC Engine Sega PlayStation NEC (company) Sega Dreamcast Sega CD

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new Thread Description
This thread was originally created to encourage traders here at GTZ to do more trading, especially retro related stuff. It has turned into a lot more and I am so grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread and have kept it going for nearly 6 months now. I hope this thread will continue to thrive and everyone who reads/participates in this thread will gain some value or knowledge out of it.

We will still have Trade lists up here, though it's been a while since anyone updated. I encourage everyone to look over their lists and post updates.
There is also a section for gorgeous pictures of game rooms that active participants of this thread have shared. Feel free to share some pics of your collection or game room.
I will be adding another section for information regarding video quality of retro gaming systems on modern displays and how to improve them.
There is rather some extensive discussion regarding how to improve the display quality of retro gaming systems and if you are new to this like I am, you will find it very informative.

Old Topic Description


GTZ has become a marketplace where the most commonly traded commodity is PayPal. I want to start an effort to get some trades going and to discuss some good games perhaps you never heard of or interested in but want to discover/know more of. For example, I just got intto shmups after years of ignoring the genre and I love to discover new(to me) and rediscover old ones(Sonic Wings comes to mind).

No pressure here. Feel free to discuss anything retro. Perhaps throw out some WTTF targets and what you have to offer. I am sick of browsing people's year old Available lists.

Some examples:

- WTTF/WTB/LF
- What you think is awesome game/series/whatever
- Potential games you have up for trade
- Pics of what you have/what you would love to get/what you think is the bestest awesomest game ever
- Show off your latest finds/adds to your collection

3rd Generation: Nintendo Entertainment System Famicom Sega Master System Atari
4th Generation: Super Nintendo Super Famicom Sega Genesis Mega Drive (Japan) Sega CD Sega Mega CD NEC TurboGrafx-16 NEC PC Engine Neo Geo CD-i (Compact Disc Interactive)
5th Generation: PlayStation Sega Saturn Nintendo 64 3DO Sega 32X Virtual Boy Atari Jaguar NEC PC-FX
6th Generation: PlayStation 2 Sega Dreamcast Microsoft Xbox Nintendo GameCube
Handheld: PlayStation Portable Game Boy Game Boy Color Game Boy Advance Nintendo DS Game Gear Nokia N-Gage Atari Lynx

Info on Improving the Quality of Video Output For Retro Systems on Modern Displays
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In the meantime , check out:

My Experience with Upscaling (DVDO Processors)
https://www.youtube.com/user/mylifeingaming

Reference Links
http://retrorgb.com/
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

Retro Resources
The PC Engine Bible
Neo Geo Master List
Famicom Game List

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Games Beat in 2017
Lunar's Completed Games

Sega CD Sega CD - Lords of Thunder (2-3-17)
PlayStation 2 Japanese PS2 - Mushihimesama (2-15-17)
Sega Saturn Japanese Saturn - X-Men vs. Street Fighter (2-17-17)
Neo Geo Neo Geo CD - Sonic Wings 3 (4-17-17)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Red Alert (5-16-2017)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Seirei Senshi Spriggan (5-17-2017)
PlayStation Portable Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting (5-19-2017)
Sega Saturn Street Fighter Alpha (6-3-2017) w/Ryu on 4 Stars
image Arcade Gears Wonder 3 (7-24-2017)
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Yamato
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Uzume
PlayStation 4 Root Letter (7-31-2017) Crossing Paths Ending
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (8-4-2017) w/Hinome
Super Famicom Ghost Sweeper Mikami (8-7-2017)


Retro Nostalgia - Random pics snapped from old magazines that really got my nostalgia flowing.


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Game Rooms
Antipop's Game Room


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DefaultGen's Game Room

ErickRPG's Game Room



KiltedGunstar's Game Room

sharif's Game Room






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10-Aug(#241)
Oh no..turn back before it's too late!! Lol

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DefaultGen
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10-Aug(#242)
Lunar wrote:
> If anyone get an extra Night Trap CE, I call dibs
>
>

Extra of a limit 1 per customer item. OK, I'll let you know.

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10-Aug(#243)
DefaultGen wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> If anyone get an extra Night Trap CE, I call dibs
>>
>>
>
> Extra of a limit 1 per customer item. OK, I'll let you know.
>

Like that ever stopped anyone from getting more to resell winking raspberry


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Missile wrote:
> sailorneorune wrote:
>> DefaultGen wrote:
> |>> Wtf is this
> |>>
> |>> A $1400 Phoenix Wright box set and the box insert for some of the games is the
>> budget
> |>> label? What is going on.
> |>>
> |>> image [full]
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> |>>
>>
>> I saw this last night and raged about it. "We can't afford localization"
> No it was "it's not profitable enough for localization".

Thanks for the correction.

However, Capcom's mishandling of this series outside Japan makes that bombastic 15th anniversary set feel like I'd imagine a punch in the face from the first Phoenix Wright game's gilded crook Redd White would feel like.

They didn't promote Ace Attorney in the West very much at all. One of the excuses Capcom trotted out for not localizing AAI2 was that the original was outsold by Okamiden, which didn't do all that well either.

Capcom at least tried with Okamiden.


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11-Aug(#245)
Lunar wrote:
> DefaultGen wrote:
>> Lunar wrote:
> |>> If anyone get an extra Night Trap CE, I call dibs
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Extra of a limit 1 per customer item. OK, I'll let you know.
>>
>
> Like that ever stopped anyone from getting more to resell winking raspberry
>
>
>

Obviously there are ways around it but they do go and cancel obvious cases of people bypassing the order limit.
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11-Aug(#246)
Looking for an excellent condition disc of Crazy Taxi for Dreamcast. Can be loose.
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* 11-Aug(#247)
Gypsy wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> DefaultGen wrote:
> |>> Lunar wrote:
>> |>> If anyone get an extra Night Trap CE, I call dibs
>> |>>
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Extra of a limit 1 per customer item. OK, I'll let you know.
> |>>
>>
>> Like that ever stopped anyone from getting more to resell winking raspberry
>>
>>
>>
>
> Obviously there are ways around it but they do go and cancel obvious cases of people
> bypassing the order limit.

They removed the CE a few minutes before release frown Guess I waited for nothing.

Did anyone at least get an extra regular copy? If so I'll take it.
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* 11-Aug(#248)
WithinTemptation wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> Lunar wrote:
> |>> DefaultGen wrote:
>> |>> Lunar wrote:
> |>> |>> If anyone get an extra Night Trap CE, I call dibs
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Extra of a limit 1 per customer item. OK, I'll let you know.
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Like that ever stopped anyone from getting more to resell winking raspberry
> |>>
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Obviously there are ways around it but they do go and cancel obvious cases of
> people
>> bypassing the order limit.
>
> They removed the CE a few minutes before release frown Guess I waited for nothing.

The CE was available (not anymore). I just got the regular edition though. You're paying a lot more for a lot of nothing IMO.

I only ordered 1.
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11-Aug(#249)
They took down the bundles and CE a couple minutes before release to prevent "cheaters" somehow. The URL stays the same and they go back up at 10:00:00. You just need to keep refreshing.

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11-Aug(#250)
nibbler1 wrote:
> WithinTemptation wrote:
>> Gypsy wrote:
> |>> Lunar wrote:
>> |>> DefaultGen wrote:
> |>> |>> Lunar wrote:
>> |>> |>> If anyone get an extra Night Trap CE, I call dibs
>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> Extra of a limit 1 per customer item. OK, I'll let you know.
> |>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Like that ever stopped anyone from getting more to resell winking raspberry
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Obviously there are ways around it but they do go and cancel obvious cases of
>> people
> |>> bypassing the order limit.
>>
>> They removed the CE a few minutes before release frown Guess I waited for nothing.
>
> The CE was available (not anymore). I just got the regular edition though. You're
> paying a lot more for a lot of nothing IMO.
>
> I only ordered 1.

I seen that after it was too late. I had the page open and the CE was completely removed from their site, even at 10am. Somewhere between 10 and 10:02 it was put back up and sold out. And by that time it made me miss out on the regular edition.
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11-Aug(#251)
Managed to get one CE, was about to order another but it was already sold out

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11-Aug(#252)
So...Night Trap, any chance they'll do the rarer/better games(Snatcher, Dragon Force, etc etc?)

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11-Aug(#253)
Lunar wrote:
> So...Night Trap, any chance they'll do the rarer/better games(Snatcher, Dragon Force,
> etc etc?)
>

They're just putting Night Trap on disc because it got a digital re-release. The original developers have been trying to bring it back for years. There was a Kickstarter years ago.

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Missile
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11-Aug(#254)
Lunar wrote:
> So...Night Trap, any chance they'll do the rarer/better games(Snatcher, Dragon Force,
> etc etc?)
hah, no. Get ready for that rerelease of Corpse Killer though.
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11-Aug(#255)
Was not aware of the 25th Anniversary Edition Night Trap.

So...LRG is just a glorified printing/packacging supplier?

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* 11-Aug(#256)
Looks like the standard edition will be available again in about 8 hours

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11-Aug(#257)
Night Trap was sold out in ~1 min. Can you imagine how fast something like Snatcher would sell out (if they ever remade it ... ).
GreenCard200
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11-Aug(#258)
The CE already sold for $170 on eBay? I should have bought some to flip.
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11-Aug(#259)
Lunar wrote:
> Looks like the standard edition will be available again in about 8 hours
>
>

I suppose I'll have to try again. Kinda annoying when you get "put in line" only to be told its sold out.
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11-Aug(#260)
Lunar wrote:
> So...LRG is just a glorified printing/packacging supplier?

Yes. They just grab what people will let them print, which is why they get so many cheap old indie games.

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11-Aug(#261)
nibbler1 wrote:
> Night Trap was sold out in ~1 min. Can you imagine how fast something like Snatcher
> would sell out (if they ever remade it ... ).

If they ever handed that to LRG, I would disavow the company and shun the game. LRG is crap tactics, purposely withholding quantity to ensure it sells out because everyone wants to throw them money and flip online.

I mean, it's fudging Night Trap. Sold out. Really???
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11-Aug(#262)
DiamondDave wrote:
> nibbler1 wrote:
>> Night Trap was sold out in ~1 min. Can you imagine how fast something like Snatcher
>> would sell out (if they ever remade it ... ).
>
> If they ever handed that to LRG, I would disavow the company and shun the game.
> LRG is crap tactics, purposely withholding quantity to ensure it sells out because
> everyone wants to throw them money and flip online.
>
> I mean, it's fudging Night Trap. Sold out. Really???

LRG claims it's up to the developer to determine the quantity ... but who knows.
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11-Aug(#263)
Maybe the first retro re-release that comes out decades later and is both easier to find and more expensive than the original (although prices on the original have skyrocketed recently).

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11-Aug(#264)
Bullcrap. If they do, they have a chart in front of these guys saying "If you strangle the quantity, you'll guaranteed sell out". I've NEVER heard of a company saying "Well I only want to make THIS much money".
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11-Aug(#266)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Bullcrap. If they do, they have a chart in front of these guys saying "If you strangle
> the quantity, you'll guaranteed sell out". I've NEVER heard of a company saying
> "Well I only want to make THIS much money".

There's this old hanafuda card company called Nintendo.

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DiamondDave
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11-Aug(#267)
I'm struggling to see the correlation
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11-Aug(#268)
Well they discontinued the NES Classic which people are still paying $200 for because they decided they didn't want to meet demand.

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* 11-Aug(#269)
CDs, paper and plastic have a static cost and are (essentially) limitless.

Hardware, components, ICs, anyone with a background in electronic manufacturing knows it's a fudging crap show. Nintendo sold it for too little money, and when their supply contracts ran out everyone selling them parts were probably like "Yeah, we can do more, but it's gonna cost you this time". Or they had to start dipping into the grey market to even be able to afford manufacturing costs. So they've got Nintendo chodes on one side of them screaming "I DIDN'T GET ONE FUDGE YOU" who expect it to be on shelves in perpetuity, with the component suppliers ringing their hands trying to see how badly Nintendo wants to fudge themselves over to try to regain some customer satisfaction, all over a limited engagement product they DEFINITELY met demand with on the supply end, until you throw in the eBay flipcraps.

One of these scenarios has no problem. The other one has a large, expensive, complex one. You'll note the SNES version had less games and cost $20 more this time around.
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11-Aug(#270)
The only reasoning that I can think of is that, since LRG is known to sell out, no developer wants to be the first to not.
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* 11-Aug(#271)
There are three people who care about LRG releases: LRG, people who flip LRG releases and people who collect LRG releases.

The hilarious part is that when the LRG collectards have their collection, they'll eventually be looking to unload their LRG collection to other people who have LRG collections who don't need their LRG collections. It's all artificial crap, and only LRG and the flippers benefit from it.

And of course they're known to sell out; they only stock enough to last FIVE MINUTES, IF THAT of digital ordering, and everything goes straight to eBay. That's nothing to be proud of. That's something you chuckle to yourself quietly over on your way to the bank. raspberry
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11-Aug(#272)
nibbler1 wrote:
> The only reasoning that I can think of is that, since LRG is known to sell out, no
> developer wants to be the first to not.

I bet Lawbreakers just happens to be over-represented in their black friday mystery boxes, but for some reason, there were no leftover copies of Night Trap and Wonder Boy.

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11-Aug(#273)
DefaultGen wrote:
> DiamondDave wrote:
>> Bullcrap. If they do, they have a chart in front of these guys saying "If you
> strangle
>> the quantity, you'll guaranteed sell out". I've NEVER heard of a company saying
>> "Well I only want to make THIS much money".
>
> There's this old hanafuda card company called Nintendo.
>
>

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11-Aug(#274)
This was my first direct purchase from LRG. Not a huge fan of them and I don't see the point of collecting their games.

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11-Aug(#275)
Oh! By the way, today is the one year anniversary of Retro thread's creation. Thanks to everyone who have posted and kept it going for a year! Let's keep it going.

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11-Aug(#276)
Happy anniversary, The Retro Trade Thread! grin
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11-Aug(#277)
Has it really been a year? Wow, time flies.

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11-Aug(#278)
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11-Aug(#279)
Best Mainstay Thread 2016-2017
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11-Aug(#280)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Best Mainstay Thread 2016-2017

It's not the official "go-to" thread, but it's close.

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11-Aug(#281)
It is for me, when I hit "all new replies" my eyes dart south looking for the system tags

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