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Topic   The Retro Trade Thread Nintendo Entertainment System Super Nintendo NEC PC Engine Sega PlayStation NEC (company) Sega Dreamcast Sega CD

Lunar
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* 11-Aug-2016(#1)

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new Thread Description
This thread was originally created to encourage traders here at GTZ to do more trading, especially retro related stuff. It has turned into a lot more and I am so grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread and have kept it going for nearly 6 months now. I hope this thread will continue to thrive and everyone who reads/participates in this thread will gain some value or knowledge out of it.

We will still have Trade lists up here, though it's been a while since anyone updated. I encourage everyone to look over their lists and post updates.
There is also a section for gorgeous pictures of game rooms that active participants of this thread have shared. Feel free to share some pics of your collection or game room.
I will be adding another section for information regarding video quality of retro gaming systems on modern displays and how to improve them.
There is rather some extensive discussion regarding how to improve the display quality of retro gaming systems and if you are new to this like I am, you will find it very informative.

Old Topic Description


GTZ has become a marketplace where the most commonly traded commodity is PayPal. I want to start an effort to get some trades going and to discuss some good games perhaps you never heard of or interested in but want to discover/know more of. For example, I just got intto shmups after years of ignoring the genre and I love to discover new(to me) and rediscover old ones(Sonic Wings comes to mind).

No pressure here. Feel free to discuss anything retro. Perhaps throw out some WTTF targets and what you have to offer. I am sick of browsing people's year old Available lists.

Some examples:

- WTTF/WTB/LF
- What you think is awesome game/series/whatever
- Potential games you have up for trade
- Pics of what you have/what you would love to get/what you think is the bestest awesomest game ever
- Show off your latest finds/adds to your collection

3rd Generation: Nintendo Entertainment System Famicom Sega Master System Atari
4th Generation: Super Nintendo Super Famicom Sega Genesis Mega Drive (Japan) Sega CD Sega Mega CD NEC TurboGrafx-16 NEC PC Engine Neo Geo CD-i (Compact Disc Interactive)
5th Generation: PlayStation Sega Saturn Nintendo 64 3DO Sega 32X Virtual Boy Atari Jaguar NEC PC-FX
6th Generation: PlayStation 2 Sega Dreamcast Microsoft Xbox Nintendo GameCube
Handheld: PlayStation Portable Game Boy Game Boy Color Game Boy Advance Nintendo DS Game Gear Nokia N-Gage Atari Lynx

Info on Improving the Quality of Video Output For Retro Systems on Modern Displays
Coming Soon

In the meantime , check out:

My Experience with Upscaling (DVDO Processors)
https://www.youtube.com/user/mylifeingaming

Reference Links
http://retrorgb.com/
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

Retro Resources
The PC Engine Bible
Neo Geo Master List
Famicom Game List

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Games Beat in 2017
Lunar's Completed Games

Sega CD Sega CD - Lords of Thunder (2-3-17)
PlayStation 2 Japanese PS2 - Mushihimesama (2-15-17)
Sega Saturn Japanese Saturn - X-Men vs. Street Fighter (2-17-17)
Neo Geo Neo Geo CD - Sonic Wings 3 (4-17-17)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Red Alert (5-16-2017)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Seirei Senshi Spriggan (5-17-2017)
PlayStation Portable Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting (5-19-2017)
Sega Saturn Street Fighter Alpha (6-3-2017) w/Ryu on 4 Stars
image Arcade Gears Wonder 3 (7-24-2017)
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Yamato
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Uzume
PlayStation 4 Root Letter (7-31-2017) Crossing Paths Ending
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (8-4-2017) w/Hinome
Super Famicom Ghost Sweeper Mikami (8-7-2017)


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Game Rooms
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Wchillinman
Silver Good Trader
12-Aug(#321)
Lunar wrote:
> Wchillinman wrote:
>> "clean/perfect record"? Does the game count fails or something?
>
> No, like no loss of life/blood/hearts whatever.
>
Ok, so pretty much where they could say something like, look I beat the game with one life (or bare minimum of lives), type of thing. Artificially making themselves seem like a beast/expert of the game. If that's what it is, it's a waste of time when/if people know about those save states.
Lunar
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* 12-Aug(#322)
For me, I like it because it saves time if I don't want to keep replaying the same (easy/boring) parts.

I must have sunk 10+ hours into Final Fight. Gonna try a few more times.

Save states do make the harder games easier and more accessible to the newer generation.

DefaultGen
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* 12-Aug(#323)
I've save-stated my way through games I can't otherwise beat before, same thing with 30-livsing Contra or feeding credits into The Simpsons until you win. Golgo 13 is one of my favorite NES games and I couldn't beat the final boss without cheating.

These days I'm usually happy to just see how far I get though. The fact that Duck Tales and Chip n Dale got re-released with save states and rewinds makes me feel like save states are for total wimps. I think there's a difference in cheating your way past a brick wall and winning the first time every time, like most games these days.

Lunar
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* 12-Aug(#324)
I think "bragging rights" doesn't mean the same as it used to. If you think you are a pro at (whatever game), just do a search on YouTube. There is always someone with faster relexes, more skilled and also better looking than you. So just accept it.

Also, the guy who spends 50 hours mastering a game to perfection vs. The guy who beats it in 5 hours and moved on to another game, who is the loser and winner? You tell me.

Gypsy
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12-Aug(#325)
I'm totally fine with save state cheating fwiw, but it's cheating by definition.

Anyway, this isn't as crazy as @DefaultGen 3DO story but I got that anime set I derped on the price with eBay today. I asked the seller to ship in a box. They responded to that and said they would. Arrived today in USPS flat rate envelope with no padding. dead face

In the end it's all going to work out, albeit in a crapty way where I'm only happy because I was able to buy new old stock for less from the company. The first two discs both had inner ring cracks and the third volume had a busted case. So yeah, at least now I don't have to return it out of pocket.
tonymack21
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* 12-Aug(#326)
I would also think it would be OK save stating a tough fight if you had already worked up to it before.

Game time is such a premium for me I'd have to

DiamondDave
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12-Aug(#327)
DiamondDave
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12-Aug(#328)
Lunar wrote:
> I think "bragging rights" doesn't mean the same as it used to. If you think you are
> a pro at (whatever game), just do a search on YouTube. There is always someone with
> faster relexes, more skilled and also better looking than you. So just accept it.
>
>
> Also, the guy who spends 50 hours mastering a game to perfection vs. The guy who
> beats it in 5 hours and moved on to another game, who is the loser and winner? You
> tell me.
>

I spent the past almost 34 years of my life training my mind and body to beat Ninja Gaiden without save states and just accomplished it a couple weeks ago. I'm a loser, but on the other hand, I don't think a LOT of people have beaten Ninja Gaiden.
Gypsy
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12-Aug(#329)
It's a baller ass achievement, like beating GNG on Supergrafx. I could probably do neither.
DiamondDave
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12-Aug(#330)
twice*
Lunar
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* 12-Aug(#331)
DiamondDave wrote:
> I spent the past almost 34 years of my life training my mind and body to beat Ninja
> Gaiden without save states and just accomplished it a couple weeks ago. I'm a loser,
> but on the other hand, I don't think a LOT of people have beaten Ninja Gaiden.

More than you think. Check YouTube. And they did it without dying!

I'll try NG soon enough. I'm pretty sure I beat NG2 couple decades or so ago. Don't remember if I did NG1

DiamondDave
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* 12-Aug(#332)
Actually, checking Youtube for like, "Ninja Gaiden NES Clear" shows a bunch of results initially but the majority of them aren't full clears or they're completely unrelated. Even if all 8K results there were full clears, there's a LOT of people on this planet. raspberry

I'm not saying I'm like Top 500 or anything, but it's still a fairly rare gaming achievement that's getting rarer I think. DON'T CRAP IN MY CHEERIOS ;0;
DefaultGen
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12-Aug(#333)
WithinTemptation wrote:
> lame, missed Night Trap again and I had my order in in 10 seconds. All was good
> until is asked shipping method, after that it said sold out. So lame it lets you
> get that far into the order and still not get the item.

Some kind of wait list. Worth a shot?
http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/limitedrunforum...

Dashey
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12-Aug(#334)
If you've been supporting the company for a while, make sure to mention it since it'll give you a better chance of getting one according to Josh

DefaultGen
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* 12-Aug(#335)
I played Ninja Gaiden this afternoon cause you guys were talking about it and just shut it off the first time I died at the end. Fudge NES games who plays this crap raspberry

sharif
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* 12-Aug(#336)
Alright, I have a pretty big NES lot on my hands, and any and/or all of it is available. For trade, I'd want what I'd usually want: NES, SNES, SCD or Saturn games I don't own. I'm willing to go more modern if it's on my wanted list, that should be up to date. Willing to sell and part out however anyone wants. The only thing I want to keep together is the console with the cables and at least 2 controllers.

I'm making it available to you fine folks for a few days before posting it in the Classifieds.

Included:

Toploader
Crappy after market RF cable
Nintendo brand AC adapter
4 brick controllers
Four Score
21 games:


1942
Blades of Steel
Defender II
Disney's Adventures in the Magic Kingdom
Gyromite
Kirby's Adventure
Mach Rider
Millipede
Monopoly
Pac-Man (Tengen Grey Cart) x2
Rally Bike
Super Mario Bros / Duck Hunt x2
Super Mario Bros 2
Tecmo Bowl
Tiger Heli
TMNT 2
Wheel of Fortune Family Edition
Win Lose or Draw
Zelda II



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BleedingViolet
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
12-Aug(#337)
Lunar wrote:
> I think "bragging rights" doesn't mean the same as it used to. If you think you are
> a pro at (whatever game), just do a search on YouTube. There is always someone with
> faster relexes, more skilled and also better looking than you. So just accept it.
>
>
> Also, the guy who spends 50 hours mastering a game to perfection vs. The guy who
> beats it in 5 hours and moved on to another game, who is the loser and winner? You
> tell me.
>
>

There is at least one game I've beaten more times than anyone I know of or am even aware of. And it's without "cheating".

I've spent a ton of time on it and basically to beat it even once I had to, because even on American gamefaqs only one person had beaten it and it's not even about quick reflexes it's a mini rpg called Buddhas Quest. From the psp game WTF WorkTime Fun. There was no complete walk through by anyone so I literally figured out almost every stat on my own. I'm that one mini game only. And it's not easy with my knowledge of all the battles. It's probably impossible without it. It's possible you could play it 100 to 1000 times without beating it if you even could stick with it that long.

Also as far as I know I'm the only person who has a video on YouTube of finishing it. It's on my friends page because we all went there to his house to post videos of all the mini games and beat as many of them as we could.

If the information to beat that mini game were readily available I would never have been compelled to spend maybe hundreds of hours figuring this game out. So sometimes it can be worth it to have to earn your wins. If nothing else we posted a video of passing this game and I added tons of stats to the page. Even though the walk through faq is no longer there now. But the video is, I also got to the final boss in the Japanese version. And in that one I didn't start from beyond the middle of the game I started from the very beginning.

You can win either way as long as you had a good time playing the game.
creagan
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
12-Aug(#338)
I just listed some complete NES and Super games. Message me if interested.
WithinTemptation
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
12-Aug(#339)
DefaultGen wrote:
> WithinTemptation wrote:
>> lame, missed Night Trap again and I had my order in in 10 seconds. All was good
>> until is asked shipping method, after that it said sold out. So lame it lets
> you
>> get that far into the order and still not get the item.
>
> Some kind of wait list. Worth a shot?
>
>

Thanks, I suppose its worth a shot. I do wonder if its limited to 5000 copies how they could come up with more? This is only the second purchase I have made personally so me being a frequent customer wouldn't matter, lol. Both 10am and 6pm don't work well with my schedule.
FrictionPin
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12-Aug(#340)
I stopped buying their games back in late March. Really only been 3 titles I'd like to have gotten since then. Night Trap wasn't really one of them though, perhaps it would be trade bait for something else. I dunno I guess I see this one as more of a fading interest rather than something that would hold any value down the line. Of course I eat words like that all the time so what do I know.
Gypsy
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12-Aug(#341)
Night Trap sucks. But to realize that people would have to open the game and play it. So I predict value will stay high.
DefaultGen
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12-Aug(#342)
Gypsy wrote:
> Night Trap sucks. But to realize that people would have to open the game and play
> it. So I predict value will stay high.

Fuuck I just realized no one is going to play it so people might still think Night Trap is some weird, misunderstood thing. If it has some modern newbie mode where you don't need to play through the same scenes 400 times with a notebook to try to beat it, I might actually give it a go.


Lunar
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12-Aug(#343)
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Topic   The Retro Trade Thread Nintendo Entertainment System Super Nintendo NEC PC Engine Sega PlayStation NEC (company) Sega Dreamcast Sega CD