Vintage_Games

Topic   RTT Nintendo Entertainment System Super Nintendo NEC PC Engine Sega PlayStation NEC (company) Sega Dreamcast Sega CD Sega 32X Game Boy Advance Atari Jaguar Sega Master System

Lunar
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September Let's Play Together!
Nintendo Entertainment System Castlevania

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new Thread Description
This thread was originally created to encourage traders here at GTZ to do more trading, especially retro related stuff. It has turned into a lot more and I am so grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread and have kept it going for nearly 6 months now. I hope this thread will continue to thrive and everyone who reads/participates in this thread will gain some value or knowledge out of it.

We will still have Trade lists up here, though it's been a while since anyone updated. I encourage everyone to look over their lists and post updates.
There is also a section for gorgeous pictures of game rooms that active participants of this thread have shared. Feel free to share some pics of your collection or game room.
I will be adding another section for information regarding video quality of retro gaming systems on modern displays and how to improve them.
There is rather some extensive discussion regarding how to improve the display quality of retro gaming systems and if you are new to this like I am, you will find it very informative.

Old Topic Description


GTZ has become a marketplace where the most commonly traded commodity is PayPal. I want to start an effort to get some trades going and to discuss some good games perhaps you never heard of or interested in but want to discover/know more of. For example, I just got intto shmups after years of ignoring the genre and I love to discover new(to me) and rediscover old ones(Sonic Wings comes to mind).

No pressure here. Feel free to discuss anything retro. Perhaps throw out some WTTF targets and what you have to offer. I am sick of browsing people's year old Available lists.

Some examples:

- WTTF/WTB/LF
- What you think is awesome game/series/whatever
- Potential games you have up for trade
- Pics of what you have/what you would love to get/what you think is the bestest awesomest game ever
- Show off your latest finds/adds to your collection

3rd Generation: Nintendo Entertainment System Famicom Sega Master System Atari
4th Generation: Super Nintendo Super Famicom Sega Genesis Mega Drive (Japan) Sega CD Sega Mega CD NEC TurboGrafx-16 NEC PC Engine Neo Geo CD-i (Compact Disc Interactive)
5th Generation: PlayStation Sega Saturn Nintendo 64 3DO Sega 32X Virtual Boy Atari Jaguar NEC PC-FX
6th Generation: PlayStation 2 Sega Dreamcast Microsoft Xbox Nintendo GameCube
Handheld: PlayStation Portable Game Boy Game Boy Color Game Boy Advance Nintendo DS Game Gear Nokia N-Gage Atari Lynx

Info on Improving the Quality of Video Output For Retro Systems on Modern Displays
Coming Soon

In the meantime , check out:

My Experience with Upscaling (DVDO Processors)
https://www.youtube.com/user/mylifeingaming

Reference Links
http://retrorgb.com/
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

Retro Resources
The PC Engine Bible
Neo Geo Master List
Famicom Game List

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Let's Play Together!

Nintendo Entertainment System Castlevania - September 2017
Nintendo Entertainment System Ninja Gaiden - August 2017


Games Beat in 2017
Lunar's Completed Games

Sega CD Sega CD - Lords of Thunder (2-3-17)
PlayStation 2 Japanese PS2 - Mushihimesama (2-15-17)
Sega Saturn Japanese Saturn - X-Men vs. Street Fighter (2-17-17)
Neo Geo Neo Geo CD - Sonic Wings 3 (4-17-17)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Red Alert (5-16-2017)
NEC PC Engine NEC CD-ROM 2 Seirei Senshi Spriggan (5-17-2017)
PlayStation Portable Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting (5-19-2017)
Sega Saturn Street Fighter Alpha (6-3-2017) w/Ryu on 4 Stars
image Arcade Gears Wonder 3 (7-24-2017)
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Yamato
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Uzume
PlayStation 4 Root Letter (7-31-2017) Crossing Paths Ending
Nintendo Switch Kamiko (8-4-2017) w/Hinome
Super Famicom Ghost Sweeper Mikami (8-7-2017)
Super Famicom Final Fight (8-13-2017)
Nintendo Entertainment System Ninja Gaiden (8-14-2017) Clear Time - 1:27
Nintendo Entertainment System Contra (8-18-2017)
Nintendo Entertainment System Bucky O'Hare (8-18-2017)
PlayStation Bust-A-Groove (8-25-2017) w/Heat
Famicom Akumajou Dracula (9-10-2017)


Retro Posters/Ads/Brochures - I love looking through these.


Retro Nostalgia - Random pics snapped from old magazines that really got my nostalgia flowing.


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Game Rooms
Antipop's Game Room


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ErickRPG's Game Room



KiltedGunstar's Game Room

sharif's Game Room






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DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#241)
DefaultGen wrote:
> I played through Super Castlevania IV yesterday. As much as I love the first game,
> this is probably better. 10/10 for me. It's definitely better than Birdthrow of Blood
> because the Belmont character is a superman badass.
>
>
>

So far just on the annoyance factor of Death alone, I think I'm inclined to agree. But CV 4 was also significantly easier in ...almost every way, like how you don't have to buy an engagement ring for your jump arcs and how the whip just fixes every problem you have in the game
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#242)
NES classic came in. It's fake. frown

Haven't even plugged it in and I'm already 100% on that. Will post pics and details tonight, since it's here I may as well fudge around with it a bit I guess...
DefaultGen
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11-Sep(#243)
I thought the difficulty was about right. It's not hard, but once you hit the castle it's not a super breeze like the first half of the game. The checkpoints are crazy forgiving. There's the 4-boss gauntlet in the B block at the end, but you get a checkpoint after every boss (or at least you get one before Death). Some gauntlet!

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Gypsy
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11-Sep(#244)
@DefaultGen This podcast is pretty good, good topics covered in past episodes.

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Noid
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11-Sep(#245)
DiamondDave wrote:
> NES classic came in. It's fake. frown
>
> Haven't even plugged it in and I'm already 100% on that. Will post pics and details
> tonight, since it's here I may as well fudge around with it a bit I guess...

What gave it away? Also, will you try to get a partial refund from the seller and keep the bootleg or just return it outright for a full refund? Finally, what's the going price for one of these counterfeits when they're actually sold as such? I'm curious if it's even worth keeping as an oddity.
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#246)
Fake NES Classic is worth less than nothing to me. Box was stuffed way past the usually-tight fit of the real crap, thought it might have been a repack in that case (still not new) but after pulling out the box you notice things immediately. Controller textures are all off and have elevated button areas where there were none. Ports are poorly aligned on the system. Box thickness is off. Serials don't match system and box. All the official text is ALMOST there but something's off. And the box itself has that "...wait, something's off" thing about it, where it's just not as clear and crisp as it's supposed to be. Because it's a photocopy.

I'll post some of the tells, I'm actually planning on editing a short video with some functional stuff that I presume I'll find when I plug it in, but the UI should start lagging if left on too long, and changing languages should have no effect. It should also stretch games out to widescreen dimensions instead of keeping proper aspect ratios like the real deal.
Noid
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* 11-Sep(#247)
I might be interested in one on the cheapy-cheap just as a ROM box so I don't have to bear the guilt of having adulterated an official Nintendo Entertainment System product. winking raspberry
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#248)
Considering I spent $160 on it, I'm not looking to sell it off on the cheapy-cheap. I'm looking to shove it up the seller's ass and get my money back.
Noid
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11-Sep(#249)
Gypsy wrote:
> Wheels617 wrote:
>> @gypsy i might be into d and 2 as well if you find anything to partial trade.
> As
>> usual most of my lunch money is going to @lunar
>
> I'll give it a look.
>
> Trade value will probably be a bit more than $75 which was a rock bottom sale price.
>
>

Holy cow! Dungeons & Dragons Collection (Saturn) is an arcade-perfect compilation of two of my favorite video games. At USD $75.00, I honestly have no idea how this hasn't been snatched up by now. If I didn't already own it, I'd be all over it at this price 'cause I know I paid more than that for mine back in the day. envy
Noid
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11-Sep(#250)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Considering I spent $160 on it, I'm not looking to sell it off on the cheapy-cheap.
> I'm looking to shove it up the seller's ass and get my money back.

Oh, I definitely remember reading how much you paid for yours and I pretty much figured I wouldn't be getting that one on the cheapy-cheap. wink
Gypsy
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11-Sep(#251)
Noid wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> Wheels617 wrote:
> |>> @gypsy i might be into d and 2 as well if you find anything to partial trade.
>> As
> |>> usual most of my lunch money is going to @lunar
>>
>> I'll give it a look.
>>
>> Trade value will probably be a bit more than $75 which was a rock bottom sale
> price.
>>
>>
>
> Holy cow! Dungeons & Dragons Collection (Saturn) is an arcade-perfect
> compilation of two of my favorite video games. At USD $75.00, I honestly have no
> idea how this hasn't been snatched up by now. If I didn't already own it, I'd be
> all over it at this price 'cause I know I paid more than that for mine back in
> the day. envy

Because it's Gametz. I have no doubt it would sell on eBay for this price the same day (I'd list higher on eBay, tbh). But I don't NEED the money so I'm willing to hear out offers here and perhaps trade.

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DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#252)
If I had a Saturn, I'd definitely emulate D&D on MAME
Noid
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11-Sep(#253)
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RobotVendingMachine
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11-Sep(#254)
Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
https://batonrouge.craigslist.org/ele/d/sony-34-te...
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DefaultGen
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11-Sep(#255)
RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
>

RIP your back.

Also I better not see 4:3 games stretched on that thing.

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RobotVendingMachine
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11-Sep(#256)
DefaultGen wrote:
> RobotVendingMachine wrote:
>> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
>>
>
> RIP your back.
>
> Also I better not see 4:3 games stretched on that thing.
>
>

RIP the person who I convince to come get this thing with me.

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Gypsy
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11-Sep(#257)
RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
>

Solid TV. Be sure you can lift it, it's around 200 pounds. I'd try to get them down on the price. Also it is 16:9 and will have digital processing.

I have a similar model I've been using that is starting to show some issues from heavy use. Absolutely fantastic for film and 480/720p content.

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RobotVendingMachine
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11-Sep(#258)
Gypsy wrote:
> RobotVendingMachine wrote:
>> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
>>
>
> Solid TV. Be sure you can lift it, it's around 200 pounds. I'd try to get them down
> on the price. Also it is 16:9 and will have digital processing.
>
> I have a similar model I've been using that is starting to show some issues from
> heavy use. Absolutely fantastic for film and 480/720p content.
>
>

Yea I am going to use it for my TG16 and Laser Disc player.

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Gypsy
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11-Sep(#259)
DefaultGen wrote:
> RobotVendingMachine wrote:
>> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
>>
>
> RIP your back.
>
> Also I better not see 4:3 games stretched on that thing.
>
>

The default display method does 4:3 correctly with black bars on the side. He'd have to go out of his way to do that and make it look awful.

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Gypsy
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11-Sep(#260)
RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> |>> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
> |>>
>>
>> Solid TV. Be sure you can lift it, it's around 200 pounds. I'd try to get them
> down
>> on the price. Also it is 16:9 and will have digital processing.
>>
>> I have a similar model I've been using that is starting to show some issues from
>> heavy use. Absolutely fantastic for film and 480/720p content.
>>
>>
>
> Yea I am going to use it for my TG16 and Laser Disc player.
>
>

LaserDisc on these is superb.

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RobotVendingMachine
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11-Sep(#261)
Gypsy wrote:
> DefaultGen wrote:
>> RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> |>> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
> |>>
>>
>> RIP your back.
>>
>> Also I better not see 4:3 games stretched on that thing.
>>
>>
>
> The default display method does 4:3 correctly with black bars on the side. He'd have
> to go out of his way to do that and make it look awful.
>
>

You know if this thing does scanlines?

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Gypsy
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11-Sep(#262)
Also especially if you have paying the full $50, make sure you test it. $50 + hernia is a lot to pay if the geometry is effed.

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Gypsy
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* 11-Sep(#263)
RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> DefaultGen wrote:
> |>> RobotVendingMachine wrote:
>> |>> Instead of a PVM I am going to pick up this bad boy
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> RIP your back.
> |>>
> |>> Also I better not see 4:3 games stretched on that thing.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> The default display method does 4:3 correctly with black bars on the side. He'd
> have
>> to go out of his way to do that and make it look awful.
>>
>>
>
> You know if this thing does scanlines?
>
>

Nah, it's digital. It's really not close to a PVM for 240p content, especially over composite. Of course wear/tear/usage is going to be a factor too. If this has seen daily use since shortly after these came on the market, it could be showing issues.

Too bad I don't have capture equipment or I could really show the difference tonight with some captures.

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RobotVendingMachine
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11-Sep(#264)
ok so here is my dilemma, I can get the Sony tv for 50.00 or get a 20" PVM. I would have to trade away a few good NES games Kirby, Metroid, Neir Automata and Fire Emblem Path of Radiance for the PVM though.

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Gypsy
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11-Sep(#265)
@RobotVendingMachine

Model/price of the pvm?

Of course all areas are different but when I was accumulating displays like they were going out of style I got multiple HD Wegas like the one you linked to or slightly better (sfp models) I got just about all of them for free. I did pay like $10 for one with sfp.

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RobotVendingMachine
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11-Sep(#266)
Gypsy wrote:
> @RobotVendingMachine
>
> Model/price of the pvm?
>
> Of course all areas are different but when I was accumulating displays like they
> were going out of style I got multiple HD Wegas like the one you linked to or slightly
> better (sfp models) I got just about all of them for free. I did pay like $10 for
> one with sfp.
>
>
Ikegami TM20-17R and he is asking 200.00

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DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#267)
RobotVendingMachine wrote:
> ok so here is my dilemma, I can get the Sony tv for 50.00 or get a 20" PVM. I would
> have to trade away a few good NES games Kirby, Metroid, Neir Automata and Fire Emblem
> Path of Radiance for the PVM though.
>
>

...15, 15, 40, 100? Skip, get the Sony TV.
DefaultGen
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11-Sep(#268)
Ikegami kind of looks like Ikaruga. That gets my vote.

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DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#269)
Are you a gamer, a collector, or someone who just ekes off the life essence of the things you buy and then throw them back into the void?

You're not a gamer until you decide to keep a Wii U until you at least give Sonic Boom a shot imo. Sonic Boom came in today.
sharif
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11-Sep(#270)
I'm definitely buying Sonic Boom at some point. I just want to be as cheap as possible.

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Noid
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* 11-Sep(#271)
Is it supposed to be a bad game? If so, count me out! Sure, I may enjoy collecting, playing, and sucking the life essence out of video games; but, I will not play a stinker just because it's somehow cool to play a bad video game and get frustrated by it. Fudge that! raspberry
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#272)
It's not even that it was a stinker I think, it had some broken elements and wasn't a FAST Sonic game, and it incorporates some of the last popular aspects of modern game development. I wanted to see if it was more playable than Sonic 06, which is the textbook definition of "So bad that it's still bad"
DefaultGen
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11-Sep(#273)
I still want to get to Sonic 06 one day, but it's too expensive. I'm curious but not like more than $5 curious.

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Listen to the Collector's Quest Podcast
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#274)
It's ...it's really not worth the plastic it was printed on. Often times the loading times eclipse the gameplay times.
Missile
Gold Good Trader
11-Sep(#275)
Neither is sonic boom, really, it's just a more boring Sonic 06.
Noid
Gold Good Trader
* 11-Sep(#276)
If I'm ever at the point where I've played through all my truly good video games -- and, at this, rate that'll never happen -- I may look into giving it a shot. But, right now, Valkyrie no Densetsu (NEC PC Engine HuCard) just arrived at my doorstep thanks to the wonderful people at eBay. Let the good times roll! cool smile
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#277)
WELL, WE SHALL SEE. If it's fudging playable it's already leagues ahead of Sonic '06
DiamondDave
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11-Sep(#278)
Legend of the Valkyrie's not too bad but you'll be over it shortly I'd wager
Noid
Gold Good Trader
11-Sep(#279)
I'm sure I will. frown
Noid
Gold Good Trader
11-Sep(#280)
...but, don't forget that, after I'm done playing it, I still get to feed off its life essence! grin
Missile
Gold Good Trader
* 11-Sep(#281)
It's only playable if you like your sonic to stutter because the console can't handle 30fps

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