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Topic   More icons?

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Lunar wrote:
> PC / Windows * pc *
>
Ha! There it is. I was looking for it under Windows and then Microsoft, don't know why I didn't think to look under PC...
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10:38am
Could we get a Windows icon? Or is it already there and I missed it.

Topic   FS: Beats Solo 2Wireless

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10:36am
Jurassic_Shift wrote:
> No one buys this stuff here. I offered clearance, nib beats at cost with no bites...

Thanks, I figured as much. I'm about to take a lot of this stuff to eBay and elsewhere and decided to post here once more.

Topic   FS: Criterion Collection blurays

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10:35am
About to head to eBay with these so last chance!

Topic   FS: Apple Official Smart Battery Case for iPhone 7

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10:33am
This is the Apple made battery case for iPhone 7. It'll add an extra day or so on to your battery. It's the black color and in good condition, but has the "shiny" spots you get on these from them rubbing up against your pocket. These retail for $100 new, I'm looking for $55 shipped. Thanks!

Topic   FS: Beats Solo 2Wireless

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10:31am
These are still available, and yes, they are authentic.

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Topic   FS: Surface Pro 4 with 3 year accidental damage coverage and lots of extras!

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* 10:25am
This Surface Pro 4 is in excellent condition. The only noticeable wear is a minor scuff on the bottom corner of the kickstand. It is the i5/256GB/8GB model and includes box, pen and charger. This also includes a 3 year warranty through Microsoft with accidental damage coverage. Covered through the end of 2019!

I will also include the additional pen tips kit, Microsoft arc touch mouse, USB/Ethernet hub, miniDP to HDMI cable, and a nice Incase sleeve. Looking for $900 shipped and I will consider partial trades. I'm looking for a nice camera, PS4 console, iPad, and/or xbox one games.

Topic   Best Buy 2-Day Sale (Jan 20-21)

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20-Jan
Some great prices on laptops too.

Topic   New Star Wars

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20-Jan
Watermelon candies: why do we eat it?
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20-Jan
Also why do watermelon candies taste nothing like actual watermelon?
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20-Jan
Did anyone see they're making a new Star Wars?

Topic   2015 Retina Macbook Pro

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20-Jan
How has this not sold yet?...

Topic   Chelsea Mannings sentence commuted

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19-Jan
Dustin wrote:
> Ronin wrote:
>> Dustin wrote:
> |>> I don't really understand this argument. Obviously a person can choose to identify
> |>> with whatever they want, dress however they want, and even have whatever surgery
> |>> they want. No one's saying that because this man wants to be a woman, that's
> he's
> |>> actually a woman now. Correct? I mean biologically it's just not true. This argument
> |>> seems silly.
>>
>> This is one of those things people just aren't going to agree on.
>>
>> My honest question though, is why does it matter? Why can't people just live and
>> let live? Why does one care if someone earnestly decides they want to live their
>> life as a woman?
>
> That's what I'm saying though (sorry if that wasn't clear). If this person chooses
> to live life as a woman, who cares. They aren't actually a woman, but they're free
> to live as one. Why is it even a discussion?

Because it took about five posts for it to come up in this discussion and several people seem more angry about it than the actual crimes committed.
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19-Jan
Dustin wrote:
> I don't really understand this argument. Obviously a person can choose to identify
> with whatever they want, dress however they want, and even have whatever surgery
> they want. No one's saying that because this man wants to be a woman, that's he's
> actually a woman now. Correct? I mean biologically it's just not true. This argument
> seems silly.

This is one of those things people just aren't going to agree on.

My honest question though, is why does it matter? Why can't people just live and let live? Why does one care if someone earnestly decides they want to live their life as a woman?
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
> Ronin wrote:
>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>> Ronin wrote:
>> |>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>> |>> So if they feel/look like they're 21 when they're 17 they should get into
>> bars?
>> |>>
>> |>> I personally don't care if they try and get into bars. It is illegal, however,
> |>> while
>> |>> having a sex change is not.
> |>>
> |>> So its not illegal for guys to walk into women's locker rooms if they pretend
>> to
> |>> be women but its illegal for a minor to go into a bar if they pretend to be 21?
>>
>> In many cases, yes, it's not illegal for a biological male to use a women's locker
>> room or vice versa. In some cases, it is illegal. Though, drinking under the age
>> of 21 is illegal all over the country.
>
> BRB, got some locker rooms to visit.

Let us know how that works out for you.
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* 19-Jan
Scots wrote:
> I think it's safe to say we should probably go with the official dictionary of our
> time: Urban Dictionary.
>
> Gender:
>
> "A reflection of one's self-image as relating to sexual nature. There are, in general,
> three genders:
>
> 1) Male
> 2) Female
> 3) Something you made up one day to feel speshul. E.g. "semiqueer-bi-spirit-shemale".
> May use made-up pronouns such as "xe", "ze", "schlee", "nflgsufgshuihousu", etc.
> Anyone who finds this ridiculous is a bigot and is literally Hitler."

 * positive *

I think now we should all argue about which dictionary is the right dictionary.
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
> Ronin wrote:
>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>>
> |>> "the male or female sex, or the state of being either male or female"
>>
>> Fair enough. We can shoot different definitions back and forth all day if we wanted.
>>
>
> I'm not shooting a definition anywhere, the dictionary is.

I gave you a definition too that referred to it as a cultural or social identity. That's all I was saying. Relax.
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
> Ronin wrote:
>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>> So if they feel/look like they're 21 when they're 17 they should get into bars?
>>
>> I personally don't care if they try and get into bars. It is illegal, however,
> while
>> having a sex change is not.
>
> So its not illegal for guys to walk into women's locker rooms if they pretend to
> be women but its illegal for a minor to go into a bar if they pretend to be 21?

In many cases, yes, it's not illegal for a biological male to use a women's locker room or vice versa. In some cases, it is illegal. Though, drinking under the age of 21 is illegal all over the country.
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
>
> "the male or female sex, or the state of being either male or female"

Fair enough. We can shoot different definitions back and forth all day if we wanted.
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* 19-Jan
michaeld wrote:
> "Gender is a cultural/social identity.
> "
>
>
> What? I dont give a crap what someone wants to identify as or live their life as
> but that is just silly imo to say gender isnt biological

Look up the definition of gender.

"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."

The word gets used colloquially as biological sex, but that's not what it actually means. Biological sex means essentially the same thing in every culture. Male and female gender do not, and relate to that cultures idea of the role and behavior of men and women. In some cultures, people might see a woman getting a job as acting like a man, though typically not in western cultures. But regardless of culture, pretty much everyone has the same definition of biological sex.
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
> So if they feel/look like they're 21 when they're 17 they should get into bars?

I personally don't care if they try and get into bars. It is illegal, however, while having a sex change is not.
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
> Age is a biological fact but you can look much younger than you are and tell people
> you're 31 when you're in fact 40 and they wouldn't be able to tell the difference
> just as long as you look the part. Its like when people say things like "Even though
> I'm 45 I feel like I'm still 20". You can even have medical procedures (Botox, facelifts,
> cologne injections, hair coloring, hair plugs, etc....) to reverse what biology has
> dictated age wise in order to fool society into making them think you're something
> that you're not.

Sure, and if someone wants to claim they're younger than they are power to them.
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19-Jan
dustin11 wrote:
> Ronin wrote:
>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>> Would we have ever heard of this guy unless he got his junk cut off though?
>>
>> Really, you hadn't heard of this case before? You must not pay much attention
> to
>> what's going on in the world.
>
> I had heard of him, just didn't read into what exactly he did or what charges were
> brought up against him. Reading through this thread its obvious that not everyone
> else has either.

That's sad. Some of the leaked content was pretty disturbing and something all Americans should know about, regardless of their feelings about this case.
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* 19-Jan
Scott wrote:
> Wait, how are the points in that video "false equivalencies"? He was born white.
> It would be absurd for him to say he's chinese just because he feels chinese. He's
> a grown man, so it would be absurd for him to say he's 6, even if he feels 6. What
> makes gender different?
>
>
A few thoughts...

Age is a count of how many years someone has been alive. A biological fact. Irreversible.
Chinese is a nationality. One can move to China and become Chinese if they so desire.

Sex is a biological identity.
Gender is a cultural/social identity.

Sex and gender aren't the same thing. One can't reverse age to become a child again. If science gets us there someday then great. Science has made it possible to change ones biological sex. So if someone wants to change their biological sex and become a woman then great. If they want to move to China and call themself Chinese then great. Neither of these things affect me personally.

On an unrelated note, people say she wouldn't have gotten the pardon if she wasn't transgender. Maybe. I also think there would be far less vitriol and anger towards her and the commute of her sentence if she wasn't transgender.

And of course we can agree to disagree on this @Scott. I was just answering this from my perspective.