I'm kinda really hoping we get one. I know people are already doubting how good it would actually be with the games that would most likely not be included (like rare titles) but I feel like it would at least open up the possibility of being capable of emulating some of the games that don't work very well on current emulators if/when someone cracks it and makes it possible to add your own games. Just my opinion. Any thoughts?
No. All of these are cash grabs.
Thank you for your highly valued input. I'd like to know what on this earth couldn't be considered a "cash grab" but I'd also like to stay on topic for anyone who might actually be interested.
> Thank you for your highly valued input. I'd like to know what on this earth couldn't
> be considered a "cash grab" but I'd also like to stay on topic for anyone who might
> actually be interested.
I'm waiting for a game boy remake.
> It's not like us regular folks would have much of a shot at one. Remember when Nintendo
> lied and said SNES Classics would be easy to get around Christmas? I'd love one,
> but I'll stick with being a dirty pirate since they give me no other reasonable choice.
It probably depends a lot on where you are and how bad scalpers are in your area. I randomly stumbled upon an SNES Classic at Toys R Us around Christmas time and then saw 4 more at Target when I was actively looking for one for my brother. I honestly never even really planned to get one because I didn't want to get my hopes up but when I saw one I just had to get it. Supposedly they will have more this year though so if you really want one it wouldn't hurt to keep a look out. I'm kinda hoping I'll get lucky and get ahold of an NES classic when they re-release it. But still not really trying to get my hopes up. I live in a pretty small town but still had a few butt-holes that would buy 4 of them and list them at $150 a piece on Craigslist.
> Yeah I'd love to see one, I actually have my older consoles set up but this would
> be neat.
> There's some serious classics and some of us don't want to mess with emulators.
There was a list of games that recently got re-upped on Copyright and got new digital manuals, forgot what it was, but honestly the list was pretty unremarkable. I'm not sure I'd drop $80 on it unless the emulation was REALLY good, or properly upscaled. Not to mention the controller's bound to be larger than the system.
I'd love to see a Nintendo 64 Classic Edition (Nintendo 64)
. By comparison, those dang Ultra HDMI kits are going for a crazy
crap ton of money right now. Maybe if a high-def alternative like this gets released, it'll help calm that mod market down a bit.
> Yes, but without Rare games it won't be anything like what it has the potential of
Biggest problem with the list we've seen so far. Lack of third party.
If they threw Bomberman Hero on it, all would be forgiven. In general I agree with Scott, most games have aged poorly. OOT is certainly no exception.
There are a lot of great first party titles though. And like I mentioned before there would be the possibility of adding your own games. I still believe that right out of the box it could include some great titles. Potentially we could see Mario Party 1-3, both Zeldas, 1080 snowboarding, Mario kart, Kirby 64, paper Mario, Mario tennis, smash bros, yoshi's story, etc.
Just for reference, this is the list that was leaked as the potential games that would come to the N64 Classic. I think it may have since been debunked as games for VC or something, but in any case:
•Donkey Kong 64
•Mario Kart 64
•Mario Party 2
•Sin and Punishment
•Super Mario 64
•The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
•The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
•Wave Race 64
•Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
•Star Fox 64
All in all, its an okay list but if it had Diddy Kong's Racing, Banjo Kazooie, Conkers Bad Furday, Snowboard Kids, Beatle Adventure Racing, Bomberman Hero, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, Goemon's Great Adventure, Chameleon Twist, and Golden eye in place of some of the weaker games like Wave Race, 1080, Majora's Mask (Worst Zelda ever, IMO), Yoshi's Story, Mario Party and Excite Bike 64 then it would be a much better list.
I'm not certain I would call them cash grabs. Thanks to collectors and the internet, classic gaming isn't super accessible anymore. 10 years ago you could grab up and SNES and tons of games on the cheap.
They're great for regular people who want to reminisce.
As for the N64? No. I love it, and many of the games, but the controls are hell now. Going dual joystick made the N64 control scheme antiquated.
I get why you guys are saying they are "cash grabs"...but I can't agree with it. The eShop VC titles are WAYYYYYYYYYY worse. One N64 game for $10????
At least there is a great value with the NES/SNES and possibly N64 classic systems. Trying to accumulate the same games in ANY form (either original cartridge, or as a download on another system) would cost far far more than they are charging for these Classic systems.
The problem I have with the N64 is that so many of the games simply don't hold up anymore. Just my .02.
Would I buy one? Hell yeah. But you can put 22 of the best N64 games on it, and it wouldn't hold a CANDLE to the SNES Classic (and maybe even the NES Classic to be honest).
Oh, and that controller
I really hope they update the analog sticks somehow if they do this.
I think they can make the stick look and feel the same, but smoother and less prone to grinding into dust.
I'd be all for an N64 classic console with an added right analog stick in place of the C buttons. Sure, it wouldn't be the same controller, but I wouldn't care.
There have been some user-made dual analog controllers made before...image
> You ever tried one of those Gamecube stick replacement kits for the N64? Bit touchy
> but they're much nicer. Does feel weird though.
Indeed I have
I actually bought a used N64 off Craigslist with a few games for cheap (like $30 or something). Strangely enough (I didn't know it until I got it home), it came with two controllers that had the sticks replaced with GC sticks. Not sure why the guy would do that and not ask for more money....
> yeah, I don't really see these being a cash grab at all. I remember I added up the
> total cost of buying all the games available on the SNES Classic off ebay (using
> their cart only sold listings) and the total value was over $800. I agree with Admiral
> too, if you want to talk "cash grab", then the VC is considerably worse when they're
> charging you $10-15 to play OoT and making you rebuy it every time they release a
> new console. Combining a bunch of games onto one device for 1 low price, plus including
> controllers and the console to run it on is actually a fantastic deal.
Not to mention in HD, which is a HUGE upgrade over the original systems
> There have been some user-made dual analog controllers made before...
But some games DO use the D-pad...and some use BOTH analog/D-pad.
Just saying to say it.
> dustin11 wrote:
>> yeah, I don't really see these being a cash grab at all. I remember I added up
>> total cost of buying all the games available on the SNES Classic off ebay (using
>> their cart only sold listings) and the total value was over $800. I agree with
>> too, if you want to talk "cash grab", then the VC is considerably worse when they're
>> charging you $10-15 to play OoT and making you rebuy it every time they release
>> new console. Combining a bunch of games onto one device for 1 low price, plus
>> controllers and the console to run it on is actually a fantastic deal.
> Not to mention in HD, which is a HUGE upgrade over the original systems
Yeah seriously. Try running an HDMI on an SNES or N64 and see what happens to the costs then, LOL. My TV can't even use anything older than HDMI anymore, so composite and component cables and being phased out on the newer upcoming sets.
> If they upscaled the N64 games to at least 720p with an option to kill the awful
> anti-aliasing present in games, I could see an N64 Classic being a practical purchase
> and a good way to play the older games again.
If they did something like Rare did with Rare Replay I would be all for an N64 Classic:image
> That was nice but remember that's running on an Xbox One lol
It was on the Xbox 360 and launched around the same time as Nuts & Bolts and was actually a N&B preorder bonus. That screen was showing the game running on the 360 as the "XBLA" indicates as there is no XBLA on the X1. Rare Replay was running the game via BC. The screenshot above also links to a youtube video from 2011, 2 years before the X1 even launched and like 4-5 years before Rare Replay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0dj1WHz5k
> I didn't know Banjo Kazooie on Rare Replay was the XBLA version, I thought it was
> the N64 version. I know that makes much less sense, but could have sworn I read that
> somewhere a while back. I've been wanting to play the XBLA version for a long time,
> guess I'll just get Rare Replay then.
Conker's Bady Fur Day was the N64 version but with cleaned up graphics. They used that version rather than the OG Xbox version. That may be what you were thinking about.
I agree with Dave too, its probably the best value of any game/package ever released on a console before. The amount of content is ridiculous. I put like 400 hours into it and I don't think I've even played half the games on it.
> That was nice but remember that's running on an Xbox One lol
If you emulate N64, it looks almost that good.
> I think I've got an extra Superpad floating around somewhere.
Dave if you've got the model I posted which I think is the model 2 redesign id be interested in it. Only controller that's comfortable for me on the 64.
> You should, it's one of the best values on the system. On ANY modern system.
I know a guy with Xbone and his only game is Rare Replay. Besides that all he uses it for is movies.
> DiamondDave wrote:
>> I think I've got an extra Superpad floating around somewhere.
> Dave if you've got the model I posted which I think is the model 2 redesign id be
> interested in it. Only controller that's comfortable for me on the 64.
I think it's floating around in one of my desk drawers, I'll take a look after work. It's definitely available if I find it. And yes, it's the same as the pic you showed. The original Superpad sucked ass.
That's a sweet looking controller too.... Anyone ever use it? Although, if they use the same Wii connector for the controllers, a Wii Classic Controller Pro would work really nice, no?
I bought both the NES and SNES minis, but the N64 one I wouldn't bother with. I thought the system was very overrated and only has a handful of good games.
@Discgolfer123 I feel pretty much the same. But I would contend that the 4 player controller ports have allowed the plug and play ability to age well even if the library hasn't and the short list of titles that are amazing are genuinely still amazing and have aged well. Granted we're talking 20 games maybe I'd have on a list like that since I'm not an RPG guy.
I always loved Mario Tennis on
without a doubt one of my favorite games ever. To this day I think it's worth owning the system just for that. So what that the library is mostly butt that aged like a horrible butt, give me 15-20 solid multiplayer titles and I think it's a solid little set up. But ask me to pay $80 for the mini, probably pass. But I didn't like the graphics on the Snes Mini. Even cleaning up the resolution in the options I thought it looked faccacda and mushoongad love that I'll eventually mod it and have whatever maybe 100 Snes titles from across all the regions on it and save States and game genie codes built in guess they do too now. I'd rather just have an Snes,
Tube tv and real carts to play. Maybe it was just me but I found the look of games closer to crystal with the 20 year old stuff than the modern day stuff.
> I wonder how they would handle the controller ports with that console. Maybe USB
> to keep the size down since this would be their first mini console with 4 ports.
> NES and SNES had just 2 each and there doesn't look to be enough room to add 2 more
> unless they wanted to increase the size of the N64 Classic.
I guess it could be similar to the snes Classic where it has the regular controller port looking piece that opens up to reveal the actual port underneath. Just a theory. It would be awesome if they went wireless but I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one. Haha
All good points, yall.
I didn't want to see a NES classic or SNES classic to begin with, so no.
> I didn't want to see a NES classic or SNES classic to begin with, so no.
You didn't WANT to see those, or you just didn't care?
Please explain, because I'm guessing you're either trolling or have a really crapty reason for not wanting these
Well fudge you too.
> Well fudge you too.
This is a dick answer but it was wise alecky as heck and I enjoyed it.
no but i saw a consolized game boy the other day
> no but i saw a consolized game boy the other day
Yummy! Pics or it didn't happen!!
I tried playing goldeneye again and had to shut it off after thirty seconds because it just didn't age well compared to newer shooters. This was in 2005.
No way, man. I still go back to Silo to this day to shoot scientists in the arms and legs.
> I tried playing goldeneye again and had to shut it off after thirty seconds because
> it just didn't age well compared to newer shooters. This was in 2005.
Yeah, the first time I played it after the 90s was around 2007. I was playing with my best friend growing up, who was the person I had played it with the most as a kid, so the nostalgia factor was good enough that we had a decent time, but it was already pretty rough. Flash forward to 2016, I played it at a local gamer meetup and had had enough after about 5 minutes.
I've had similar experiences with Mario Kart 64. Newer Mario Karts are just so much better. MK64 has poor mechanics and the gameplay is slow and boring. It cracks me up when people talk about these games as if they're STILL great. Like, I'll see a post about MK8 on Facebook or something and there's always those couple people that say something like "nah I'll stick with MK64" or "MK64 is still the greatest". No, it's really not. Any time I've actually questioned these types of people, it turns out they either haven't played MK64 in a really long time, or they haven't played the newer Mario Kart games at all.
> Yeah, but Diddy Kong is still awesome. MK64 had horrible rubberbanding issues in
That one is pretty rough now too IMO. I'm sure it would seem worse if they had continued to make Diddy Kong Racing games over the years, improving on it again and again.
> dustin11 wrote:
>> Yeah, but Diddy Kong is still awesome. MK64 had horrible rubberbanding issues
> That one is pretty rough now too IMO. I'm sure it would seem worse if they had continued
> to make Diddy Kong Racing games over the years, improving on it again and again.
I played through the campaign not too long ago and actually still really enjoyed it. I like the simplicity of the game and the track layouts. The sequel that got canned looked horrible, so I'm glad it has (so far) stopped with just DK. A few other good ones are Blast Corps, Banjo Kazooie, Conkers Bad Fur Day, and Jet Force Gemini. I just played through all those games via RR a little over a year ago for the first time (with the exception of BK), and they were all great games.