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Topic   Car ignition won't turn -- help!

Master_Z
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19-Jan-2018(#1)
So my 2012 Kia Forte started having this issue a couple days ago. The ignition will crank but not turn on. The steering wheel was tight at first, but I jiggled it around while trying to start the car and problem is still not fixed. Also made sure it was in the "park" position. The battery isn't charged a whole lot, so we tried charging it -- the alarm went off like crazy. I was able to reset this (hopefully) by pressing the blinking light under the dash.

Any other ideas why it won't start? This happened suddenly. I will say the weather has been extremely cold (a few nights in the negatives) here in Kentucky. I could try to fully charge the battery I suppose. Also, if I turn on the headlights, it seems the clock light will dim and the radio will turn off.
Felty
Has Written 6 Reviews
19-Jan-2018(#2)
I would charge the battery up, cold weather can cause it to not get enough juice going.
jgrant78
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19-Jan-2018(#3)
When you say the steering wheel is tight, what exactly do you mean? Does the steering wheel not want to turn at all? If it's not the battery, I might have something to try. My Kia Sportage did this a few times a while back and I found the fix for it. Do you notice a small (like nickel sized) rectangular cover next to or above your gear shift? If you have one, try popping that off and sticking your key down in the hole. It resets something and my car started right up.
devans77
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19-Jan-2018(#4)
if you can get i jumped off take it to autozone or advanced auto parts or some place similar and they can check your alternator and battery for free... I just changed the alternator on my car a 2000 pontiac bonneville i followed a youtube video and it was fairly easy... then had to change the battery in my wifes 2012 chevy traverse the battery is in the floorboard behind passenger seat it was'nt too hard to do.. I looked at her alternator and those the engine on her vehicle is all jam packed i dont think I could do any work on that myself.


If it happens to be your alternator I got mine from carid.com it was a refurbished one for $70 you do have to pay a extra core fee of $50 which you will get back when you return the old one. my car crunk up right away when i put it in and have had no problems with it

both cars I went to olive garden to pickup some food and they both died there it was about a month apart I told my wife im not going back to olive garden lol


WithinTemptation
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19-Jan-2018(#5)
If it will continue to crank without dying then the battery is good enough to start the car. Are you sure it's getting gas and spark?

If a bad battery it should turn over slowly a few times and then stop. It won't keep turning.

How many volts is the battery reading?

Disconnect the battery and clean the post and reconnect to see if it's a loose connection.

Inspect the battery, does it look like it's leaking?
darkslime
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19-Jan-2018(#6)
First thing you should try is buying a new battery, return it if that's not the problem.
Demonis
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19-Jan-2018(#7)
If you've never changed the battery, then its 6 years old and that's a decent life for a battery IMO. But, as mentioned, if the car continues to turn over (this is the crank noise you hear) as long as you're holding the key down to start, then the battery isn't the issue. If the battery is weak, the car will maybe turn over a few times then stop, or wont turn over at all.

Honestly is sounds more like an immobilizer issue if it's turning over. You said the alarm went off too. Maybe unplug the battery for 30 mins and try again, or if there's some immobilizer reset method in the manual, try that.
Noid
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* 19-Jan-2018(#8)
Just call your brother. He's always been good with cars. Why didn't you ever pick that up from your father?!

SHUT UP, MOM!! angry
dustin11
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* 19-Jan-2018(#9)
Charge your battery and if you're planning on leaving your car parked for an extended period of time (ever a few days in some cases) when its cold out then it may be worth investing in a trickle charger as the cold mixed with your alarm sapping the battery it could eventually drain enough that it won't have the required cold crank amps to start the car. Does your car's alarm have a kill-start feature?
KCPenguins
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* 20-Jan-2018(#10)
If it starts when it gets warmer it's probably the gas. Turn the car on for 5 seconds before trying to actually crank the engine. Shut off the heat and radio. If it doesn't start after a ~5 seconds, stop trying (you're just draining the battery). If it does start, buy gas without ethanol or get an additive that helps prevent water from getting in the gas (like $1) when it gets cold. I had this problem with my wife's car.
NatGasHole
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20-Jan-2018(#11)
Alternator or starter.

secret_defender
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20-Jan-2018(#12)
Check your battery first, no excuse if you can get to a store it's free to check. If no store nearby that does it find something that will.

If not battery then the only things left are what natgashole said. On some cars it is easy while others is not and must remove a bunch before getting to the alternator. If easy i would try to do it yourself if not what is what don't remove a bunch to get to it have someone else do it.
Sam
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20-Jan-2018(#13)
Cold crankin' ampz

WithinTemptation
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20-Jan-2018(#14)
secret_defender wrote:
> Check your battery first, no excuse if you can get to a store it's free to check.
> If no store nearby that does it find something that will.
>
> If not battery then the only things left are what natgashole said. On some cars
> it is easy while others is not and must remove a bunch before getting to the alternator.
> If easy i would try to do it yourself if not what is what don't remove a bunch
> to get to it have someone else do it.

Some auto stores can test the alternator in the car.

Given the age and the temperature outsife it's most likely the battery. The original description isn't clear and implied it might not be the battery.

Does the battery keep turning the motor?

Sam is right about the CCA. You can use a weak battery for a long time if it's not cold outside, but when the temps drop you need those CCA to turn the motor.
KCPenguins
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21-Jan-2018(#15)
I interpreted his description as the battery was turning the motor, it just wasn't starting. If the battery is failing to turn the motor, then there's your sign. If you have a multi- meter (free from Harbor Freight), you can check it yourself. I assume you've already checked the battery posts for corrosion.
Master_Z
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22-Jan-2018(#16)
Problem has been fixed. I unplugged one of the connectors from the battery and waited about 10 minutes. Plugged it back in and jump started with my dad's truck. It started up instantly and hasn't had an issue since. I'm not sure if that reset the security system or something else in the car, but I'll take it. Alternator and battery levels read fine with a voltmeter.
Demonis
Silver Good Trader
22-Jan-2018(#17)
Yep, sounds like something triggered the immobilizer. It'll probably happen again, just be ready for it. Keep a tool in your car to unhook the battery.

Topic   Car ignition won't turn -- help!