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Topic   Cat food

longhornsk57
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15-Jan-2018(#1)
So I'm reading all this crap about you have to give em wet food, and most have BS fillers and all this stuff.

Any cat food pros out here able to give the rundown on the truth about it?

I'm nearly out if the Purina dry food and I need to figure this out.
Prime
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15-Jan-2018(#2)
Newman's own. Can't go wrong. I mean unless you hate your cat and want to feed it that other poison they're calling cat food.
theyrhere
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15-Jan-2018(#3)
I forget what the brand is that I feed my cat, but the ingredient profile looked pretty legit and it's not expensive. His craps got more solid and he's gained healthy weight since we got him, too. I'll look tomorrow.
theyrhere
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15-Jan-2018(#4)
With two vastly different dogs and a cat, I've learned what foods are good without breaking the bank lol. My cat food was on super sale a week ago and I bought every bag on the shelf.
AlphakirA
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15-Jan-2018(#5)
It's anecdotal, but my wife's cat died at 17 giving strictly dry food and table scraps. Occasionally tuna from a can as a treat. My uncles cat died at 20 or something insane, only dry food.
Noid
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15-Jan-2018(#6)
My family's housecat recently passed away at the ripe ol' age of eighteen years old. She lived a long and happy life with a very high quality of life all the way 'til the end. She was fed dry cat food right up until the last year when she started loosing her teeth and had to be fed the wet stuff. Don't believe what the cat food industry says; they just want to sell you more expensive cat food. poker face
theyrhere
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15-Jan-2018(#7)
Pure Harmony salmon is what I use. Had to go feed my cat haha. It's pretty cheap.
longhornsk57
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15-Jan-2018(#8)
theyrhere wrote:
> Pure Harmony salmon is what I use. Had to go feed my cat haha. It's pretty cheap.

Thanks will check this out.

We have two cats, about 9 months old, and my wife really loves them so I just want to make sure I'm feeding them right, and with so much information and sales and propaganda overload it's pretty difficult.
theyrhere
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15-Jan-2018(#9)
I'd stand solidly behind what I use. No marketing, at least decent ingredients, my cat loves it, and I've seen positive physical results since he's used it.
longhornsk57
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16-Jan-2018(#10)
theyrhere wrote:
> I'd stand solidly behind what I use. No marketing, at least decent ingredients, my
> cat loves it, and I've seen positive physical results since he's used it.

Where do you get it?
Xena
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16-Jan-2018(#11)
i can't give my cat dry food because it gives him problems with his urinary tract. he is on a strict wet food diet now
Scott
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16-Jan-2018(#12)
AlphakirA wrote:
> It's anecdotal, but my wife's cat died at 17 giving strictly dry food and table scraps.
> Occasionally tuna from a can as a treat. My uncles cat died at 20 or something insane,
> only dry food.

Noid wrote:
> My family's housecat recently passed away at the ripe ol' age of eighteen years old.
> She lived a long and happy life with a very high quality of life all the way 'til
> the end. She was fed dry cat food right up until the last year when she started loosing
> her teeth and had to be fed the wet stuff. Don't believe what the cat food industry
> says; they just want to sell you more expensive cat food. poker face

This is like arguing that smoking isn't bad for you because you know a smoker who lived to be 90.

Scots
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16-Jan-2018(#13)
Whatever's cheapest. It's a cat.
theyrhere
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16-Jan-2018(#14)
We have it at Super 1 grocery store here, idk if you have one. Looking online I didn't see much, which is shocking lol
AlphakirA
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16-Jan-2018(#15)
@Scott Dry cat food is designed to give your animal its proper nutrients, cigarettes are not. Your comparison is stupid.
Finn
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16-Jan-2018(#16)


Purina Cat Chow Naturals Indoor Dry Cat Food and Friskies wet Variety pack.


I have one cat who is roughly 16 pounds, he has a little pudge, but he is just a massive cat. He is a Orange tabby, heart of gold just a good dude. Our other cat who is also a farm cat, is probably the fattest I think she was stunted.

We need to get them some better food and start to watch there weight better. Thing is, as soon as they see a hole in there dish she looses her mind. She has always been this way. It's like she starved as a kitten and is traumatized.

Scott
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* 16-Jan-2018(#17)
AlphakirA wrote:
> @Scott Dry cat food is designed to give your animal its proper nutrients, cigarettes
> are not. Your comparison is stupid.

What they're designed for is irrelevant. Arguing that something is ok, because of one specific example you know of that turned out to be ok, is ridiculous. That was my point.

Edit: What if we weren't talking cat food. What if we were talking about a person who ate nothing but McDonalds. Somebody chimes in "I know a person who ate nothing but McDonald's and lived to be 90" and I point out that's like saying you know somebody who smoked and lived to be 90. Would that still be a "stupid" comparison to you?

SaintJimmy
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16-Jan-2018(#18)
My cats were getting a lil chunky from eating one of the 'good' brands of dry food (Nature's Variety - Instinct) and we were having trouble getting them to lose weight, so we set up an appointment with an animal nutritionist who recommended a homemade diet. We switched them to the homemade diet in September and they've each lost about 2 pounds (down to 14 from 16) and are still losing weight. They're happier, play more, and like the food more than what we were giving them.

The food is kind of a PITA to make - we make a month's supply at a time and it takes about 2 hours, though we recently bought a 14 cup food processor to help cut down on prep time (we were previously using a 4 cup processor). Cost wise, it's really not much more expensive to make homemade compared to the dry food we were feeding them, and we figure it'll save money on vet bills down the road.

Here's a link to the nutritionist's website with the recipe we use. If there's interest, I can link to the exact products we're using + how we make the food.
Finn
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16-Jan-2018(#19)
To be fair most cheap cat food is basically McDonalds for your cat... I can see the miss communication but it was a good comparison by Scott.

AlphakirA
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* 16-Jan-2018(#20)
Scott wrote:
> AlphakirA wrote:
>> @Scott Dry cat food is designed to give your animal its proper nutrients, cigarettes
>> are not. Your comparison is stupid.
>
> What they're designed for is irrelevant.

That's specifically what the issue OP has. That's 100% relevant.

> Arguing that something is ok, because of
> one specific example you know of that turned out to be ok, is ridiculous. That was
> my point.

No, it turned out ok because it's made for that reason. Your point is complete crap.

> Edit: What if we weren't talking cat food.

We are.

> What if we were talking about a person
> who ate nothing but McDonalds. Somebody chimes in "I know a person who ate nothing
> but McDonald's and lived to be 90"

We're not. Is McDonalds food made to give you proper nutrients? No? Then it's a stupid fudging point.
Scott
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16-Jan-2018(#21)
@AlphakirA You're assuming that cheap cat food is made to give proper nutrients. The obvious counter point that you're ignoring is that many say it doesn't, and is basically like junk food for a cat (e.g. McDonald's). THAT is OPs issue.

longhornsk57
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* 16-Jan-2018(#22)
SaintJimmy wrote:

>
> If there's interest,
> I can link to the exact products we're using + how we make the food.

This looks interesting, will look it up.

As for the whole cigarettes thing, I mean end of the day I just want to balance good diet with cost. If one person's cat does OK on regular dry it doesn't mean all cats will, just like we know people who drink till they're 95 etc, a lot of it is genetics.

Some will be predisposed to diabetes or whatever from genes, but you want them to be healthy and give the best chance at health and happiness, even if it costs just a few bucks more.

I'm just trying to get some ideas, our cats are not fat or pudgy and we ration them, but I want to get them on a good healthy diet early, without being sold a bunch of BS about things that don't matter etc..

If some dry food has fillers and crap that isn't good for carnivores I don't want it. I'm looking for a good alternative from those of you who've been thru this before
zenon_k
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16-Jan-2018(#23)
The one is almost 17 and we got her when she was a year and a half or two years old, and the sisters will be 13 in the summer and I got them at a month or so old. We basically have fed them dry food only. We have one food and water bowl for the three. Water is changed when they get food or litter in it or refilled as they go through it. About the same with the food. Basically re-fill it when is empty or there is only a little food left in there. Basically a drinking glass and a half if their bowl is dry. Only change is maybe 5 years ago we changed brands to something more specialized because the old stuff started to upset their stomachs.

I'd say every week and a half or two we split a can of wet food 3 ways. Then we have a bag of treats that are basically there for flea medicine. One couldn't care less, one might have one or two in a blue moon, the oldest is the only one who will have a couple when they are offered.

Unless your vet tells you because of their teeth/old age or because of a specific dietary need, dry food is just fine. Wet food is basically a treat every once in a while.
ninesalone
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* 16-Jan-2018(#24)
I have 2 cats and one of them actually prefers dry food. He is much older than my other cat and we got him from someone who rescued him from the streets. Apparently he was eating twigs and it messed him up inside a bit. When we first got him he would struggle to swallow. We figured wet food was the obvious choice, but every brand we tried he would sniff it, look up and meow like "what the hell are you giving me?"

Finally found this cat food, which he likes, and slowly weened my other cat off of another brand. They both like it. Older rescue cat will pass up treats for it.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Purina-Cat-Chow-Gentle-...

Wet food is an occasional treat for my younger cat. They both love catnip too. Older rescue cat will eat it (I guess it helps digestion?).

If you're going to try a new food @longhornsk57 , slowly introduce it. A sudden change to their diet can make them sick.
sinnie
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16-Jan-2018(#25)
Wet food gives my cats the worst craps. They won't even eat it if I offer it, we have tried several. But we do get an expensive brand now from Petco and it's cut down on hairballs and works very well. I would say if the cats are happy and healthy no need for wet food.

longhornsk57
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16-Jan-2018(#26)
I think I'm just leaning for high quality dry. Need to narrow down which one
Prime
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16-Jan-2018(#27)
Should have just listened to me. The rest of this topic is semantic nonsense.
longhornsk57
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16-Jan-2018(#28)
Prime wrote:
> Should have just listened to me. The rest of this topic is semantic nonsense.

What kind of dry food did you recommend?
ninesalone
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16-Jan-2018(#29)
longhornsk57 wrote:
> Prime wrote:
>> Should have just listened to me. The rest of this topic is semantic nonsense.
>
>
> What kind of dry food did you recommend?

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longhornsk57
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16-Jan-2018(#30)
ninesalone wrote:
> longhornsk57 wrote:
>> Prime wrote:
> |>> Should have just listened to me. The rest of this topic is semantic nonsense.
>>
>>
>> What kind of dry food did you recommend?
>
> [imgt w=500 h=682]https://i.imgur.com/wmIj8pb.jpg[/imgt]

That looks pretty good. What's the protein %
HAMMER
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16-Jan-2018(#31)
Cheap crap. She's fine and happy and active.

Pretty sure the comparison of expensive vs cheap cat food is pretty similar as far as ingredients and prep go.
Prime
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16-Jan-2018(#32)
Newman's own isn't Beverly Hills boutique expensive. It literally is just free of the legitimate non food, not even preservatives crap they pump into our food supply forget what they get away with feeding animals. Can't go wrong with Newman: wet or dry. If you order from Chewy in bulk it really shouldn't be much more expensive than the literal poison alternatives.
antwaan
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17-Jan-2018(#33)
We use the Purina naturals cat chow for 3 of our 4 cats. The other one is super sensitive and allergic to something in regular cat food and hates wet food so she's on something different. We used to use that cheap special kitty stuff and all of them got sick and had utis within a year. We switched to this naturals stuff and they're all healthier with fuller coats and in the past year none of them have gotten sick. Its not real expensive at walmart either. Definitely worth it to pay a little more for better food for your pets.
Admiral
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17-Jan-2018(#34)
Who is the Veterinarian here at GTZ?
John
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17-Jan-2018(#35)
I've done a bit of research on this in the past and most of what I found from real vets indicated that dry food really was ok if you provide lots of good water for your cats and they seem to drink it often. Ours do, so I'm not worried about it.

For food, we use Halo Dry Cat Food that we get from Chewy.com.

That being said, I've also heard decent things about Newman's Own -- although some mention concerns with it providing lower protein than most.
Prime
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17-Jan-2018(#36)
Easily fix the protein issue by hooking your cat up with organic tuna and boiled organic poultry here and there.
John
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17-Jan-2018(#37)
Or, um, buy a cat food with better protein content. There are many of them. It's just Newman's Own (of the better ones) that seems to have that problem. So, personally, that one isn't for me.
Prime
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17-Jan-2018(#38)
Fair enough good sir. Wasn't trying to go head to head. Been on the wrong end of those battles a time or two too many.
Felty
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17-Jan-2018(#39)
I took in a stray cat a few years ago and fed it Friskies Mariner's Catch in a can and it came back everyday for 3 years until I moved.
John
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17-Jan-2018(#40)
Prime wrote:
> Fair enough good sir. Wasn't trying to go head to head. Been on the wrong end of
> those battles a time or two too many.

Wasn't trying to fight or anything. I'm just lazy and really don't want to prepare tuna or whatever for my cats. smile
Prime
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17-Jan-2018(#41)
I like arguing with you from the standpoint that you're always on your game and always make good counter points. Always structurally on point, even when I strongly disagree. Never want to get into it with you or add stress to your life. Just admire you're manner. You're a lawyer right?
Admiral
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17-Jan-2018(#42)
Nobody wants to get Gogganized.
Prime
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Yanni Gogalack will gogganize my face off. Him, Frankie Fig, and Yimmy Tedeski.
John
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18-Jan-2018(#44)
Let's talk litter next. As a 5-cat household, I have my opinions!!

yes
HAMMER
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18-Jan-2018(#45)
Damn do you empty that bastard 5 times a day?

I use some crap with Glade.
Admiral
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18-Jan-2018(#46)
John wrote:
> Let's talk litter next. As a 5-cat household, I have my opinions!!
>
> yes

I use this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...

At times, you can get a 40lb bag for $13 - and it's AWESOME.
Admiral
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18-Jan-2018(#47)
I'm considering trying a new cat food - I use Blue Buffalo Wilderness right now, but the cats seem to only eat it because they have to, not because they love it. In fact, my adult cat tries to steal the kitten's food because she's not interested in her adult food anymore.

If I DO switch, do I have to ween them off the old stuff? Like mix it for a while, and slowly take away the old stuff...or do you recommend just going straight to new crap?
John
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18-Jan-2018(#48)
HAMMER wrote:
> Damn do you empty that bastard 5 times a day?

No -- every few days. We went with a HUGE litter box. It's one of those under-bed storage things. We put it in a back bathroom that no one else uses and it works great. There is a ton of litter (like, it takes two of those big buckets to fill it) -- but that means that the cats cover and there is plenty of room, so it works well. yes

We use Tidy Cat. We've tried a LOT of different brands and such -- and this works best for us. The "24/7" one or the "multicat" one -- either of those are great for us.
John
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18-Jan-2018(#49)
Admiral wrote:
> If I DO switch, do I have to ween them off the old stuff? Like mix it for a while,
> and slowly take away the old stuff...or do you recommend just going straight to new
> crap?

You're really supposed to do the weening thing. Cats can get real finicky with food and then not eat. So, best to do it gradually.

Of course, if you know your cats, then it might not be necessary. I mean, if he's already eating other food, he might be fine to take to it.

I don't think it is much messing them up or anything -- as it is them not eating because it is different. In other words, if they will eat it, great! If they don't take to it, then you need to do it gradually.
Admiral
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19-Jan-2018(#50)
So I can probably TRY to go straight to the new stuff, and if it doesn't work....then start mixing it a bit until they eat again? Sounds good yes
John
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* 19-Jan-2018(#51)
Right -- that's my understanding. That if the cat takes to it fine, then it usually isn't an issue.

EDIT: That being said, we did mix ours together for a day or two when we switched.

Topic   Cat food