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Dustin
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9-Oct-2017(#1)
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10 Team League
H2H Total Points
One Division
$10 entry
Snake Draft

Members:
1. Dustin - IN/PD
2. Scots - IN
3. theJAwwww - IN/PD
4. HAMMER - IN
5. Prime - IN
6. longhornsk57 - IN/PD
7. Slim - IN/PD
8. Dustin's friend from work - IN/PD
9. Broccoli - IN
10. Rune_Walsh - IN

Waitlist:
1. JD
2. ClearSights

Draft date - Sunday, October 15th 9:30PM EDT

Draft Order -

1. Slim
2. Broccoli
3. Rune_Walsh
4. Scots
5. longhornsk57
6. Dustin
7. Gomez
8. Cook (Dustin's friend from work)
9. HAMMER
10. theJAwwww
Broccoli
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13-Nov-2017(#2)
Holy crap , that's the epitome of a nailbiter
Prime
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13-Nov-2017(#3)
We both made one move going into today I think. I had meant to fill another spot but forgot. 6 point difference. I was playing from behind all week if not for Paul George beasting back into contention. Solid week.

@theJaw you left 64 points on your bench with open spots all week (not like when you have Sophie's choices and you have more people with games that day then starting spots). Weak sauce.

theJaw
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* 13-Nov-2017(#4)
@Prime I've been busy with some life-things lately, the fantasy basketball isn't a top priority for me. I try to make little changes to my lineup on gameday but otherwise I'm not always on top of it. It's no big deal, I've accepted a winless season haha
Dustin
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13-Nov-2017(#5)
Prime wrote:
> We both made one move going into today I think. I had meant to fill another spot
> but forgot. 6 point difference. I was playing from behind all week if not for Paul
> George beasting back into contention. Solid week.
>
> @theJaw you left 64 points on your bench with open spots all week (not like when
> you have Sophie's choices and you have more people with games that day then starting
> spots). Weak sauce.
>
>

As much as I hate to admit it Prime, I think I now see your point on additional roster spots. Last week, even after exhausting all 10 acquisitions, I still couldn't keep up with Rune. I thought it would even out throughout the week, but it didn't. I didn't think it could be a disadvantage, but it certainly seems to be possible. That may be something we look into next year.
Prime
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13-Nov-2017(#6)
Mabye next year. It only helps active members though. The guys who don't set their roster would just have more guys that the rest of us can't scoop off of waivers. In theory I think I was onto something but the application would only see the results we'd like if the other members of the league are active and also keeping up, setting and turning over their roster. We have plenty of time to make notes and think of improvements for next season. I think Cook is the last undefeated team with you and I binging up second.
theJaw
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13-Nov-2017(#7)
I'm sure I'll be more competitive next year yes
Dustin
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13-Nov-2017(#8)
Prime wrote:
> Mabye next year. It only helps active members though. The guys who don't set their
> roster would just have more guys that the rest of us can't scoop off of waivers.
> In theory I think I was onto something but the application would only see the results
> we'd like if the other members of the league are active and also keeping up, setting
> and turning over their roster. We have plenty of time to make notes and think of
> improvements for next season. I think Cook is the last undefeated team with you and
> I binging up second.

It is a lot to keep up with. Personally, I have an obsessive personality when it comes to stuff like this. That, coupled with the fact that I sit at a desk on a computer all day long, it doesn't bother me to look at it every day. I can see how this would be hard for someone in different circumstances to keep up on. I think this year there's a learning curve for almost all of us, and others gave it a shot to see if they liked it. Hopefully once we get rolling we'll have some more involvement. But yeah, Cook's team is pretty solid. I play him this week so it could be interesting.
theJaw
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13-Nov-2017(#9)
Just don't let ol' Prime do the draft next year, IT WAS RIGGED!! wink
Karaiya
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13-Nov-2017(#10)
Which one of you picked Giannis? They must be making out like a fat rat!!
Broccoli
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13-Nov-2017(#11)
I dunno how much I like adding and subtracting 10 times each bracket. It kinda takes away if someone drafted well, if people just scoop up guys who play the most games in a given week/timeframe. It becomes more about micromanaging the schedule than drafting well. If there was a limit of how many games you can dress for the whole week I think that would better reflect a good drafting GM, instead of kinda racing to dress guys with the most games.

Just an observation.
Dustin
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13-Nov-2017(#12)
Karaiya wrote:
> Which one of you picked Giannis? They must be making out like a fat rat!!

Giannis was #1 overall by Slim. He autodrafted though so it doesn't count.
Prime
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13-Nov-2017(#13)
theJaw wrote:
> Just don't let ol' Prime do the draft next year, IT WAS RIGGED!! wink

I actually had a messed up run where when I was picking a name two flew out and I didn't catch it and had to start over. I would have had the third pick instead of the 7th. Believe me if I was gonna rig it I'd have given myself a better spot than 7th.
Rune_Walsh
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14-Nov-2017(#14)
I am completely against more moves, I actually hate it, I used 5 last week I think and that was only because it was close.
It's complete disadvantage to guys that draft well, it's a game of who picks up/drops more the right guys and I honestly don't have time for it everyday with my job. I am with Broccoli on this one to be honest!

@Dustin good matchup last week, it was close between us all week.

Dustin
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14-Nov-2017(#15)
Rune_Walsh wrote:
> I am completely against more moves, I actually hate it, I used 5 last week I think
> and that was only because it was close.
> It's complete disadvantage to guys that draft well, it's a game of who picks up/drops
> more the right guys and I honestly don't have time for it everyday with my job. I
> am with Broccoli on this one to be honest!
>
> @Dustin good matchup last week, it was close between us all week.
>
>

Now that we're into it a little more, I think I agree. I'd prefer more roster spots than moves. More moves definitely benefits the person who keeps up on it more.

And yeah, good matchup for sure. I tried my hardest but couldn't keep up. I lost 5 games due to injuries last week so that just killed me. Despite using all 10 of my moves, I couldn't catch up with the amount of games played.
Rune_Walsh
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14-Nov-2017(#16)
I just got kinda lucky to be honest Dustin....Paul Millsap actually had some decent games....just plain luck to be honest....

theJaw
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14-Nov-2017(#17)
Yah I'll add in that I find the need to use the waiver system every night to be a bit tedious, which is another reason I'm leaving points on the table. Just an aspect that I know I'll never do enough to be competitive. More roster spots to draft would be a nice middle ground so that the draft means something and you still get more options daily. But the whole "check who's available every night to fill spots" thing is for the birds.
Dustin
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14-Nov-2017(#18)
theJaw wrote:
> Yah I'll add in that I find the need to use the waiver system every night to be a
> bit tedious, which is another reason I'm leaving points on the table. Just an aspect
> that I know I'll never do enough to be competitive. More roster spots to draft would
> be a nice middle ground so that the draft means something and you still get more
> options daily. But the whole "check who's available every night to fill spots" thing
> is for the birds.

I agree that seems to be the case. I really don't like changing things mid-season, however, I want everyone to enjoy the league. If there was a unanimous decision through the league I would make a change though.
Prime
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14-Nov-2017(#19)
Prime is wise beyond his years. Dude predicts the future and crap homie.
theJaw
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14-Nov-2017(#20)
Like I said, I've accepted the awful season I'm going to have so it's up to anyone else. Personally I'm fine sticking it out until next season and making do with what we have now, but if everyone else wants to change I'm not gonna make a fuss.
Dustin
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14-Nov-2017(#21)
Prime wrote:
> Prime is wise beyond his years. Dude predicts the future and crap homie.

You're also the one that pushed for more acquisitions which everyone seems to hate homie
Karaiya
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14-Nov-2017(#22)
Dustin wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> Which one of you picked Giannis? They must be making out like a fat rat!!
>
> Giannis was #1 overall by Slim. He autodrafted though so it doesn't count.

Awe, what totally cheapens it.
Prime
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14-Nov-2017(#23)
Dustin wrote:
> Prime wrote:
>> Prime is wise beyond his years. Dude predicts the future and crap homie.
>
> You're also the one that pushed for more acquisitions which everyone seems to hate
> homie

Retard. Yes I'm call you Dustin a retard, that was my alternative to expanding the rosters which was shot down. Nice try.
Dustin
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14-Nov-2017(#24)
Prime wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> Prime wrote:
> |>> Prime is wise beyond his years. Dude predicts the future and crap homie.
>>
>> You're also the one that pushed for more acquisitions which everyone seems to
> hate
>> homie
>
> Retard. Yes I'm call you Dustin a retard, that was my alternative to expanding the
> rosters which was shot down. Nice try.

wink
Broccoli
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15-Nov-2017(#25)
I would be happy with much less than 10 acquisitions a week. Say, 3-4 even.

10 a week is insane. You can add/subtract guys more than once a day on average. Way too much micromanagement, and again- more rewarding to someone who just checks the schedule rather than drafting good players/sleepers.

Prime
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15-Nov-2017(#26)
Broccoli wrote:
> I would be happy with much less than 10 acquisitions a week. Say, 3-4 even.
>
> 10 a week is insane. You can add/subtract guys more than once a day on average. Way
> too much micromanagement, and again- more rewarding to someone who just checks the
> schedule rather than drafting good players/sleepers.
>
>

I do believe I made this point on the second day of the season.
Dustin
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15-Nov-2017(#27)
Prime wrote:
> Broccoli wrote:
>> I would be happy with much less than 10 acquisitions a week. Say, 3-4 even.
>>
>> 10 a week is insane. You can add/subtract guys more than once a day on average.
> Way
>> too much micromanagement, and again- more rewarding to someone who just checks
> the
>> schedule rather than drafting good players/sleepers.
>>
>>
>
> I do believe I made this point on the second day of the season.

You also said:

Prime wrote:
> 4/5 seems like a lot. Dustin said there's three maybe it's on the mobile site we're
> only showing 1 spot but there reall are 3?
>
> 3 bench with at least 2 injury spots I'd suggest, max of 4 and 3 on each.

I couldn't find anything else since you deleted your posts. Bum.
Prime
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15-Nov-2017(#28)
You know what I said bewbs McGee
Broccoli
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19-Nov-2017(#29)
So are we gonna change it to make it more about the draft and less about the schedule management, or are we just leaving this to guys who add/subtract 8,9,10 times a week?

Broccoli
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19-Nov-2017(#30)
Prime wrote:
> Broccoli wrote:
>> I would be happy with much less than 10 acquisitions a week. Say, 3-4 even.
>>
>> 10 a week is insane. You can add/subtract guys more than once a day on average.
> Way
>> too much micromanagement, and again- more rewarding to someone who just checks
> the
>> schedule rather than drafting good players/sleepers.
>>
>>
>
> I do believe I made this point on the second day of the season.

I was still trying to figure out how it all works then. I see and agree with you at this point though.
Dustin
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19-Nov-2017(#31)
Broccoli wrote:
> So are we gonna change it to make it more about the draft and less about the schedule
> management, or are we just leaving this to guys who add/subtract 8,9,10 times a week?
>
>

What would you propose? Reduce acquisitions back down to 7? Or less? Increase roster spots? (Increasing roster spots may be tough because I'd want it to be fair for everyone when adding new guys, not just a free for all) Like I've said before, I don't like making too many changes now that the league is underway, however if the overwhelming majority of the league would like to see something done, I'll do it. I want everyone to have fun.
HAMMER
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19-Nov-2017(#32)
There aren't enough players available to make that many changes weekly. I looked every day at matchups and available players and only made 5 moves. If their team is bad enough to replace that many players daily then they aren't winning anyway.
Broccoli
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19-Nov-2017(#33)
I like 3-4 as previously mentioned. But, whatever the majority of the ppl want.
Broccoli
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19-Nov-2017(#34)
Dustin wrote:
> Broccoli wrote:
>> So are we gonna change it to make it more about the draft and less about the schedule
>> management, or are we just leaving this to guys who add/subtract 8,9,10 times
> a week?
>>
>>
>
> What would you propose? Reduce acquisitions back down to 7? Or less? Increase roster
> spots? (Increasing roster spots may be tough because I'd want it to be fair for everyone
> when adding new guys, not just a free for all) Like I've said before, I don't like
> making too many changes now that the league is underway, however if the overwhelming
> majority of the league would like to see something done, I'll do it. I want everyone
> to have fun.

I don't know, doesn't 7 seem like a lot? That doesn't seem like much changes to be honest. That's still adding and subtracting guys every day.

Right now it's "Use guys, drop em.. Use guys, drop em." It's actually annoying to see, and lots of people in this league don't have time to be doing that literally every day.
It doesn't reflect and certainly doesn't reward good drafting.

We have so many open roster spots every day people scramble the waivers just to try to fill a spot with pretty well anyone. It's literally impossible to fill out a roster every day of the week, but it still rewards you, even if you put Joe Schmoe in there (except if he gets you negative points, which is pretty rare).

I actually would like it more if you could only dress a maximum # of players in any given week total.
So instead of adding players then dropping them right after you got their 2 games or whatever... it would be more about quality starts. The league is set up to reward you a lot based on adding and subtracting Schmoes every day. More than it should, to me anyways.

Our league is based too much around quantity. So, cutting the # of "starts" would be a big change. I've not even been in fantasy basketball leagues long enough to see if that's even possible. I don't know, what does everyone think?
Dustin
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19-Nov-2017(#35)
I only mentioned 7 because that is the standard that Espn has when you create the league. I'm open to whatever the consensus deems most enjoyable.
Prime
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19-Nov-2017(#36)
I would like 7 if I didn't think that it's still fundamentally too many moves that will continue to disproportionately prohibit members who can't waiver hawk that often in a week. There's part of me that doesn't want to change anything at this point but no matter how I feel id be willing to bend to what everyone else's consensus of what's fair is.

My Incling would be to reduce roster moves to 5 and expand the rosters by 3. Three extra guys should give you close to 10 extra starts and then you can scoop guys as needed. Yes the wire will be thinner and with less great bums out there however it's equally fair for everyone fishing in a thin pond. Just a broad stroke idea of where to begin out adjustments
HAMMER
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19-Nov-2017(#37)
Lets just have no bench players and no adds or drops and we'll all never have to check it because its inconvenient for some people to have to play a fantasy game they signed up for knowing the time commitment.

All while adding dropping the average amount of players every other team does.
Prime
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* 21-Nov-2017(#38)
Lets go you fudging turd burgers! Wait is it burgers or burglars. I think it's burglars. Let's go fricckin turd burglers. I heard a lot of chirping about improvements (well after the vision, foresight and infinite wisdom of the Prime prediction I tried to heed to y'all early on in the season) but no follow up from you damn ninnies. I kept quite after I was poo-poo'd. All of a sudden the whole dang peanut gallery came alive to live in a world where the predictions of Prime had indeed come true, and just after y'all come together and speak up, you fall so ever gently asleep and forgot y'all had work to do. Chop-Chop Mothafudgeas.
Also you don't have to chop chop for me but then shut the falken bewbs up about what you don't like if you're just gonna roll over with one finger in your mouth and one finger in your butts, leaving you with no free hand!


The touch. The feel. The Cotton Satire of our lives

HAMMER
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21-Nov-2017(#39)
How was that loss Prime
Dustin
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21-Nov-2017(#40)
Prime wrote:
> Lets go you fudging turd burgers! Wait is it burgers or burglars. I think it's burglars.
> Let's go fricckin turd burglers. I heard a lot of chirping about improvements (well
> after the vision, foresight and infinite wisdom of the Prime prediction I tried to
> heed to y'all early on in the season) but no follow up from you damn ninnies. I kept
> quite after I was poo-poo'd. All of a sudden the whole dang peanut gallery came alive
> to live in a world where the predictions of Prime had indeed come true, and just
> after y'all come together and speak up, you fall so ever gently asleep and forgot
> y'all had work to do. Chop-Chop Mothafudgeas.
> Also you don't have to chop chop for me but then shut the falken bewbs up about what
> you don't like if you're just gonna roll over with one finger in your mouth and one
> finger in your butts, leaving you with no free hand!
>
> ...

You suggested like 15 things. You don't get to claim excellent foresight when one of those things is a good idea. That's like the guy who believes every single conspiracy theory to be true, then when one of them actually is, he says SEE! I TOLD YOU! And feels validated in his craziness.
HAMMER
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21-Nov-2017(#41)
Chem-trails
Prime
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25-Nov-2017(#42)
The amount of add drops required to remain competitive is genuinely obnoxious. I had a lot more time to do that crap when we started with holidays it's a pain in the ass. Totally accept that's on me for having less time to devote but it's convoluted up the fudging ting yang. Suck dicks.
Dustin
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25-Nov-2017(#43)
Prime wrote:
> The amount of add drops required to remain competitive is genuinely obnoxious. I
> had a lot more time to do that crap when we started with holidays it's a pain in
> the ass. Totally accept that's on me for having less time to devote but it's convoluted
> up the fudging ting yang. Suck dicks.

Whose idea was that?
HAMMER
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25-Nov-2017(#44)
I've add dropped one this week and I'm stroking the entire league.
Prime
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25-Nov-2017(#45)
@you mean who suggested a shirt alternative after a really good initial idea? Oh both me fudge face.
Dustin
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25-Nov-2017(#46)
Prime wrote:
> @you mean who suggested a shirt alternative after a really good initial idea? Oh
> both me fudge face.

Make an actual suggestion then and we'll take a vote. If people want a change, stop doging about it and make a concrete suggestion. "More roster spots and less moves" is not a concrete proposal. Not to point fingers, but 10 acquisitions was your idea. You literally suggested 5 different things, some of them contradictory to themselves. I'm open to changing things, because like I said, I want everyone to enjoy themselves. I'd like to hear an actual proposal though.
Prime
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26-Nov-2017(#47)
I've made dozens you've twinkie.
Broccoli
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26-Nov-2017(#48)
Okay, how about 4 a week.
That averages to more than 1 every other day.
Dustin
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26-Nov-2017(#49)
Prime wrote:
> I've made dozens you've twinkie.

Great. Make another. We can vote on it.
Dustin
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26-Nov-2017(#50)
Broccoli wrote:
> Okay, how about 4 a week.
> That averages to more than 1 every other day.

Ok so 4 acquisitions per week and the same amount of roster spots?
Prime
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26-Nov-2017(#51)
We need to agree on roster spots first. Then walk back roster moves. Basic logic boys. We were here a week or two before you guys decided to stop blowing just as the eruption came
Dustin
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* 26-Nov-2017(#52)
Prime wrote:
> We need to agree on roster spots first. Then walk back roster moves. Basic logic
> boys. We were here a week or two before you guys decided to stop blowing just as
> the eruption came

And still no actual proposal......

Also you need to determine how to fairly have players be added if you want to increase roster spots. Can't just have a free for all on waiver wire guys. That's not very fair. Truthfully I don't think it's possible to increase roster spots at this time but I'm willing to listen to a fair proposal. I think reducing acquisitions is possible though, maybe back down to a level like they were before you started doging about not having enough.
Scots
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26-Nov-2017(#53)
Prime has officially made this league no fun. I don't even care to look at it anymore, because all I see is Prime acting like a 10 year old girl.

Congrats.
Rune_Walsh
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26-Nov-2017(#54)
I say just reduce adds per week Dustin like before and add more roster spots next year.
By the way, some of you guys that average 900 fantasy points a week...damn you! *shakes fist*

Prime
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26-Nov-2017(#55)
Scots wrote:
> Prime has officially made this league no fun. I don't even care to look at it anymore,
> because all I see is Prime acting like a 10 year old girl.
>
> Congrats.

Fragile puppy.
Scots
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26-Nov-2017(#56)
Pointing out that you act like a 10 year old girl doesn't make me fragile. Just makes me an observer.
Prime
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26-Nov-2017(#57)
Scots wrote:
> Pointing out that you act like a 10 year old girl doesn't make me fragile. Just makes
> me an observer.

Saying that me voicing the same complaints that just about everyone else has ruined your season. Hahahaha. I'll cut you some orange slices and engrave a participation trophy for you big guy.
Scots
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26-Nov-2017(#58)
Lol. Get over yourself. smile
Dustin
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26-Nov-2017(#59)
So no one has an actual proposal then? So far Brocolli has suggested we reduce it to 4 moves. Do we have any other suggestions before we put it to vote?
Scots
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26-Nov-2017(#60)
I'm good with that. Thanks Broccoli for pushing this forward.
Prime
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26-Nov-2017(#61)
I just don't know how we make one alteration and not the other. We should either leave it alone or actually make it work right. Let's not be the US congress that talks about broken crap but hesitates to use it.

Add 3 roster spot. Each team gets 3 new bench spots and reduce the moves to 5. I've already spoken on the logic of this as 3 new spots allow for about 10 extra starts a week that does not have to be add dropped religiously like we have needed to to keep up. Adding those 10 starts levels the playing field. The moves could be different than 5 but I'd suggest that 3 extra spots makes up the difference on the other end.

I
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Ages
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Then
Radio
Silence
No
One
Said
That
Sucks
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Scots
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26-Nov-2017(#62)
That's too much though. I vote for Broccoli's move to reduce to 4.
HAMMER
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26-Nov-2017(#63)
Leave it alone.

No changes.
Rune_Walsh
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26-Nov-2017(#64)
Move it to 4 changes/week, I second Brocolli

Dustin
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26-Nov-2017(#65)
Prime wrote:
> I just don't know how we make one alteration and not the other. We should either
> leave it alone or actually make it work right. Let's not be the US congress that
> talks about broken crap but hesitates to use it.
>
> Add 3 roster spot. Each team gets 3 new bench spots and reduce the moves to 5. I've
> already spoken on the logic of this as 3 new spots allow for about 10 extra starts
> a week that does not have to be add dropped religiously like we have needed to to
> keep up. Adding those 10 starts levels the playing field. The moves could be different
> than 5 but I'd suggest that 3 extra spots makes up the difference on the other end.

You still haven't addressed how to fairly allow people to add the additional players if we were to add roster spots. Also for the last time, you suggested many different things. Stop acting like you knew this all along when 9/10 were wrong.



Dustin
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* 26-Nov-2017(#66)
So far we have:

Reduce moves to 4, no change in bench spots - 5 votes
No changes at all - 2 vote
Reduce moves to 5, increase rosters by 3 - 1 vote

@Slim
@longhornsk57
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Scots
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26-Nov-2017(#67)
If there are those who prefer to keep it, if also propose splitting the difference and going to 7 instead of 4.
Slim
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26-Nov-2017(#68)
I care about the scoring turnovers should be the only negative points that's my vote.
Dustin
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26-Nov-2017(#69)
Slim wrote:
> I care about the scoring turnovers should be the only negative points that's my vote.

That's not what we're voting on. We can vote on that for next year but that would effect all the scores up until now so that's not really a change I think we can do. Do you have a preference for the roster moves/acquisitions?
Slim
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26-Nov-2017(#70)
No preference On that
Slim
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26-Nov-2017(#71)
I nothing should be changed until next year thats what i was talking about
longhornsk57
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26-Nov-2017(#72)
4 per week is good
Prime
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26-Nov-2017(#73)
Slim wrote:
> I care about the scoring turnovers should be the only negative points that's my vote.

Seconded
Prime
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27-Nov-2017(#75)
@Rune_Walsh it's about time you finally beat me in fantasy kid.
Broccoli
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28-Nov-2017(#76)
I second my proposal
Prime
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28-Nov-2017(#77)
I don't even understand why this needed answering. If we added 3 roster spots you add 1 per week for 3 weeks. This way there's isn't a freeforall loading up on free agents and you can control it and keep it fair. Not advocating just answering how we would expand if we did.

Cause if you just add 3 spots at once there's a rush. Control it and let it happen naturally.

I veto the notion of getting rid of roster moves without additional action. BecUse all your actually doing is reducing the weekly starts which is the opposite of what we want which is more starting spots filled with greater ease and fairness for all.
Scots
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28-Nov-2017(#78)
Fortunately, you don't have solo veto power.

I formally move that we make a middle ground and instead of going all the way from 10 to 4 moves per week, we go halfway and do 7. That's 1 per day. Moves the needle toward what people were voting on, while not being as drastic and allowing a move per day.

Vote your consciences, folks.
Dustin
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* 28-Nov-2017(#79)
Just a spitball here to try and appease all parties, what if we increase roster spots by 1 each week for the next three weeks, while also decreasing acquisitions by 1 per week, so we end up with three more roster spots and three less moves.

Personally I don't think any of this is a great idea or necessary at this point in the season. It literally takes 2 minutes a day to do this and that's with 10 roster moves. I'm sure everyone is on the crapter for a few minutes a day that they could do it. But that's beside the point. I'd just like everyone to enjoy themselves.
Scots
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* 28-Nov-2017(#80)
Who would get first pick when we add the spots each week?

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