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Topic   How much do you think this Autographed Sports Memorabilia is worth?

USAF_Trader
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26-Mar-2013(#1)
I won a cool Stan "The Man" Musial autographed Mini-Helmet from his company. As baseball fans know, he passed away on January 19th. He was a 24x time All-Star and a 3x World Series Champion. He is considered as THE greatest St. Louis Cardinals player in franchise history (even bigger than Albert Pujols, who is now an Angel). He's a member of the Hall of Fame, and the MLB All-Century Team. With that said, the picture below is the helmet with his autograph, as well as the certificate of authenticity. I kind of stopped collecting sports memorabilia when I became an adult. I only have this mini-helmet and an autographed Thomas Vanek jersey given to my cousin to give to me from former Sabres head coach Lindy Ruff (Rich cousins.....they were neighbors) upon my return from Iraq in 09'.

My question is, what do you think something like this is worth? I have not decided on whether to keep it or try to sell it.

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DaveSGE

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26-Mar-2013(#2)
$400-425

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26-Mar-2013(#3)
$50
jtwright
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26-Mar-2013(#4)
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Chad
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26-Mar-2013(#5)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stan-Musial-Signed-St-Loui...

watch that auction and use that to figure it out.
USAF_Trader
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26-Mar-2013(#6)
Interesting. I guess the worth of it won't go up until a few more years, since he just passed away. I was hoping it was something like $200+ Guess I'll have to let it collect dust in my closet (Along with my Vanek autographed jersey that is in a big ass ziplock bag) for a few years.
whitefire
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26-Mar-2013(#7)
I think it is worth over $200. I am guessing that ebay auction will go over that.


Remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."
USAF_Trader
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26-Mar-2013(#8)
Well, that auction is a full sized batting helmet. Mine is a Mini-Helmet, so that makes a difference.
whitefire
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26-Mar-2013(#9)
Oh ok sorry I didn't catch that.


Remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."
Chad
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26-Mar-2013(#10)
there are other auctions for completed signed mini helmets as low as $60.


http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&...

the most expensive completed is
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAN-MUSIAL-AUTOGRAPHED-CA...

which was signed as stan the man musial, so that apparently is a bit rarer.
Chad
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26-Mar-2013(#11)
oh, oops, neither did i. it came with the same COA so i figured it was the exact same without reading.

so youre looking at best offer sales at <$60, <$75, <$170.

USAF_Trader
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26-Mar-2013(#12)
Yeah, I think it's best to just wait it out. Don't you guy think?
whitefire
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* 26-Mar-2013(#13)
Yeah that or try your luck as a bin or min bid auction.


Remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."
USAF_Trader
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26-Mar-2013(#14)
whitefire wrote:
> Yeah that or try your luck as a bin or min bid auction.
>
>

I think if I hold it on for a couple of years, maybe the price goes up, because he obviously can't sign any more autographs?
Chad
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26-Mar-2013(#15)
best bet is to find a person thats like 1/4 the size of regular humans and have him pose with it, so it looks like a full-sized helmet.

im guessing its a while before he becomes worth much money, though. i believe he was one of those guys who went around doing the signings all over the place. he'll probably never be a rare signature. id guess he'd only slightly outpace the market of dead HOF baseball players as a whole.
USAF_Trader
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26-Mar-2013(#16)
Yeah, he was an iconic figure in St. Louis and loved to interact with the fans. I have a feeling I'll have to wait 10-20 years before this starts to materialize....
BUBBACHUNK
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26-Mar-2013(#17)
Chad wrote:
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> watch that auction and use that to figure it out.

That auction is pretty sketchy. the last line says "- Stock image, you will receive one of equal quality." that might be why its still such a low bid.


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BUBBACHUNK
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26-Mar-2013(#18)
i only see 2 mini helmets listed, the price is pretty high but they are also BIN. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m5...



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Priest_of_Gaming
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26-Mar-2013(#19)
Just look up what you have on ebay and refine the results to show only completed listings. I see two helmets like yours that have both been sold to a "best offer." It looks like it is worth $50 or so.


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videogameman4
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26-Mar-2013(#20)
Hold onto it for now.
Jdaniels
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26-Mar-2013(#21)
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KCPenguins
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* 26-Mar-2013(#22)
Strike while the iron is hot. Unless something comes up in the future reminding people of Stan the Man, it'll probably be a long time (at least 5-10 years if I had to guess) before it's worth as much as it is now. If he was one to sign a crap ton of autographs then it will be awhile before they dry up.

Counter argument: If he wasn't one to sign many autographs, then hold onto it and wait for the appreciation. Also baseball has a chance to recapture most of the fanfare it lost in the mid 90's with the strike. If that happens collectibles should increase. If you have a kid, could be a nice hand me down (Musial was one of the greats). Is a couple hundred bucks worth taking away that?

Pros and cons, weigh them out.
KrownKlown
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* 26-Mar-2013(#23)
Problem with autographs are that people like Musial went around signing a bunch at shows. Players did not make they kind of money they do now and just went around to conventions, so these signatures are not worth as much as some people think. Even if he died now, there are so many of his signatures in circulation it does not really matter. Now if you had a shoeless joe jackson auto thats another matter, or babe Ruth.
maddawg
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27-Mar-2013(#24)
if you decide to sell i would maybe take it hit me up

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USAF_Trader
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27-Mar-2013(#25)
I'm considering keeping it. He was an iconic player. My baby nephew is growing up near St. Louis and his father is a die hard Cards fan. I think I'll give it to him once he is old enough (6 months now)
Priest_of_Gaming
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* 27-Mar-2013(#26)
Sports memorabilia isn't crap compared to what it used to be. The boom of the internet really revealed how much of the stuff is out there. Plus, no on gives a crap about a player anymore 2 months after they quit playing, are injured, etc etc. I would sell it before its worth $10.

I had some Jerry Stackhouse rookie cards autographed by him. He was labeled "the next Jordan." They were worth a lot when I was a kid in the same year I had him sign them. Then in the late 90's when I looked them up again they were worth nothing, just a few years after I had him sign the cards, and they are still worth nothing. He was never the "next Jordan." I should have sold them when they were worth a few hundred bucks now they are literally worth $5....which is less than the actual cards cost me at the time.



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USAF_Trader
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27-Mar-2013(#27)
Priest_of_Gaming wrote:
> Sports memorabilia isn't crap compared to what it used to be. The
> boom of the internet really revealed how much of the stuff is out
> there. Plus, no on gives a crap about a player anymore 2 months after
> they quit playing, are injured, etc etc. I would sell it before its
> worth $10.
>
> I had some Jerry Stackhouse rookie cards autographed by him. He was
> labeled "the next Jordan." They were worth a lot when I was a kid
> in the same year I had him sign them. Then in the late 90's when
> I looked them up again they were worth nothing, just a few years after
> I had him sign the cards, and they are still worth nothing. He was
> never the "next Jordan." I should have sold them when they were worth
> a few hundred bucks now they are literally worth $5....which is less
> than the actual cards cost me at the time.
>
>

To compare Jerry Stackhouse with Stan Musial is laughable at best Priest. Musial was a 24x MLB All-Star, 7x NL Batting Champion, 3x NL MVP, 3x World Series Champion, and on the MLB All-Century Team. Jerry Stackhouse is what.....a one time All-Star and player of the year his Senior year at North Carolina? I understand what you are saying, but to make that as your example is ridiculous to be brutally honest.
DaveSGE

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27-Mar-2013(#28)
Priest_of_Gaming wrote:
> Sports memorabilia isn't crap compared to what it used to be. The
> boom of the internet really revealed how much of the stuff is out
> there. Plus, no on gives a crap about a player anymore 2 months after
> they quit playing, are injured, etc etc. I would sell it before its
> worth $10.
>
> I had some Jerry Stackhouse rookie cards autographed by him. He was
> labeled "the next Jordan." They were worth a lot when I was a kid
> in the same year I had him sign them. Then in the late 90's when
> I looked them up again they were worth nothing, just a few years after
> I had him sign the cards, and they are still worth nothing. He was
> never the "next Jordan." I should have sold them when they were worth
> a few hundred bucks now they are literally worth $5....which is less
> than the actual cards cost me at the time.

I hear that! I went through the same thing. When I got my Ryan Leaf rookie card signed and everyone thought he was the next Montana, the card was worth a good chunk of cash... However, 1 year later, people were asking me how much I'd pay them to take the card away.

He should just put this helmet in the grinder.


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shadyfozzie
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27-Mar-2013(#29)
I'd probably say somewhere between $150-$200.
Priest_of_Gaming
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27-Mar-2013(#30)
USAF_Trader wrote:
> Priest_of_Gaming wrote:
>> Sports memorabilia isn't crap compared to what it used
> to be. The
>> boom of the internet really revealed how much of the
> stuff is out
>> there. Plus, no on gives a crap about a player anymore
> 2 months after
>> they quit playing, are injured, etc etc. I would sell
> it before its
>> worth $10.
>>
>> I had some Jerry Stackhouse rookie cards autographed
> by him. He was
>> labeled "the next Jordan." They were worth a lot when
> I was a kid
>> in the same year I had him sign them. Then in the late
> 90's when
>> I looked them up again they were worth nothing, just
> a few years after
>> I had him sign the cards, and they are still worth nothing.
> He was
>> never the "next Jordan." I should have sold them when
> they were worth
>> a few hundred bucks now they are literally worth $5....which
> is less
>> than the actual cards cost me at the time.
>>
>>
>
> To compare Jerry Stackhouse with Stan Musial is laughable
> at best Priest. Musial was a 24x MLB All-Star, 7x NL Batting
> Champion, 3x NL MVP, 3x World Series Champion, and on the
> MLB All-Century Team. Jerry Stackhouse is what.....a one
> time All-Star and player of the year his Senior year at
> North Carolina? I understand what you are saying, but to
> make that as your example is ridiculous to be brutally honest.

I wasn't comparing the two at all. I was giving an example of an experience I had with some sports memorabilia.

Why was it ridiculous? The point was that the cards were worth $200 a piece shortly after they were signed because he was projected to be a great player. Within a year they realized he sucked and they were worthless. It has nothing to do with comparing the two's achievements.



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DaveSGE

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27-Mar-2013(#31)
It's ridiculous because you're comparing the value of a piece of memorabilia of a player who didn't pan out to meet the original hype and thus had a decrease in value -- to a player who panned out, is a HOFer and met the hype.

Who expects a signed piece of memorabilia to hold value when the guy who signed it doesn't meet expectations?

If Mike Trout turns to garbage over night -- his signature isn't going to be worth anything either.

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USAF_Trader
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27-Mar-2013(#32)
But the achievements do matter. Stackhouse proved to be an average basketball player. Stan Musial proved to be one of the greatest baseball players of all time...you tried to sell the stuff 1 year after obtaining it DURING his career.....not over 60 years after his career and after he became one of the greatest to ever play the game.
Lino
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27-Mar-2013(#33)
But remember, only old-timers will be interested in Stan Musial, the guys who actually saw him play are not getting younger.

The collectible's value will only go DOWN.

Now true, Musial is a HOFer and truly one of the game's legends. Unfortunately, we're about hitting the point where the only collectibles with any value are truly the upper echelon athletes.



I would say that helmet is a $100 item at best. The recent death has given it a slight boost since it's fresh in everyone's minds. But cards and collectibles have taken a huge hit in value over the years, they're worth very little.







Chad
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27-Mar-2013(#34)
there are different levels of the hofers. musial is definitely below ruth/mantle/aaron/and a few like that, but easily near the top of the next tier. his signature will always be collectable.
Lino
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28-Mar-2013(#35)
Oh, it'll be collectible. About $100 collectible, at best. Musial was a great HOFer, no doubt about it. But as our economy dives, so do luxury collectibles like these.

If you're looking to sell the thing, now's the time.

Topic   How much do you think this Autographed Sports Memorabilia is worth?