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ENIX
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* 19-May-2017(#2)
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - 8.5/10

If not for the struggle at having a strong opening and ending, I would say this was almost as good as the first film. Fun as hell and funny as fudge. Drax was fudging killing it with the jokes. I think everything was handled really well with the exception of a couple of conveniences and one downer in the spoiler. Also, I really didn't like baby Groot...he felt too Scrappy Doo for me. I was not feeling him at all.

Killing Yontu was a major mistake and massive buzzkill for me. I get that they wanted to have some levity to the story but it was unnecessary. A last minute save would have been more appropriate.





Tad
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19-May-2017(#3)
I agree with you 100%

Killing Yondu was the only thing I didn't like, but if they build Kraglan's story right, I won't be so upset.



ENIX
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* 19-May-2017(#4)
Alien: Covenant - 7/10

I honestly don't know what to say about this. It's like 2/3 fudging amazing and strong and 1/3 just a crapty slog which was the middle section. That first act was so amazingly strong and just brutal and I was ready to come destroy any negativity this film has been getting, then the 2nd act came around and killed that buzz so hard to the point where even the relatively redeeming last act was a struggle for me to make up for the middle chunk. And sadly, that whole middle bit was just kind of a weak and sloppy attempt at connecting this movie directly to Prometheus. If not for that chunk, I was ready to say this movie was an amalgam of Alien 1, 2, and Prometheus but man that middle chunk was kind of crap....as explained in the spoiler:


Basically once David showed up, the movie went to crap. His whole bizarre love story thing with Shaw and the xenos just was crap. And him killing off the Engineers felt so shoehorned and unfitting. I really just hated everything to do with David, including the whole thing about him being the one who engineered the "true" xenomorph as we know it. That and him suddenly developing emotions and crap. None of it worked.



As for the first act; 9/10 easy. I actually really liked all of the crew with the exception of the one chick with the short hair. She's still an awful choice. The setup and pacing were on point for the first 1/3 and the horror was brutal as hell. I feel like if a fanedit could do a proper chop out of that middle section, this could be a great film. If not for that, I would place this squarely up there between Alien and Prometheus somewhere in score...as it stands, it's more like in Resurrection territory, minus the guilty pleasure dumb fun. It's not bad, but it's not great...it's just pretty good overall, and solely because of the middle chunk.

As a side note: It really bothered me that the xenomorph gestation period was way too short. I mean, the first film, it took a while from facehugger to chestburster. Obviously the mature lifecycle was very quick to adulthood since the first, but in the AvP movies they just had it happen in a matter of minutes and in Covenant it's the same way. Maybe I need to rewatch the original film, but I could have swore Kane was out for like a whole day-ish.



ENIX
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19-May-2017(#5)
Tad wrote:
> I agree with you 100%
> ...
>
>

I'm sorry but

Kraglan just isn't a sufficient replacement for Yondu. He was a background thug cameo for comedic effect at best, not a main character.

I just think that was a massive mistake.


Tad
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19-May-2017(#6)
ENIX wrote:
> Tad wrote:
>> I agree with you 100%
>> ...
>>
>>
>
> I'm sorry but ... I just think that was a massive mistake.
>
>
>

I understand that, but I feel he has real potential as a character. There will never be another Yondu though, and I agree killing him off is a huge mistake. But I do believe Kraglan has great potential.



John
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19-May-2017(#7)
ENIX wrote:
> Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - 8.5/10
>
> If not for the struggle at having a strong opening and ending, I would say this was
> almost as good as the first film. Fun as hell and funny as fudge. Drax was fudging
> killing it with the jokes. I think everything was handled really well with the exception
> of a couple of conveniences and one downer in the spoiler. Also, I really didn't
> like baby Groot...he felt too Scrappy Doo for me. I was not feeling him at all.

yes Yeah! This was basically my review of this. yes

Enjoyed it -- except for a few bits -- and I feel that Baby Groot was/is over-rated. The comparison to Scrappy Doo is a great way to put it!
ENIX
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19-May-2017(#8)
I think they took the thing where people liked Groot and thought the post-credits Baby Groot thing from GotG1 was great and over-focused on "giving the audience what they want" in that aspect. Basically "oh people loved the Baby Groot from the 5 second segment, let's give them lots of that".

The whole opening bit with him was kind of crap and scared me that the rest of the movie was going to be not good. Thankfully they more than made up for that cold open quickly and consistently. Other than that, I thought the final battle was a smidge overblown but not like movie ruining or anything.


John
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19-May-2017(#9)
ENIX wrote:
> I think they took the thing where people liked Groot and thought the post-credits
> Baby Groot thing from GotG1 was great and over-focused on "giving the audience what
> they want" in that aspect. Basically "oh people loved the Baby Groot from the 5
> second segment, let's give them lots of that".

Agreed. My LEAST favorite part of the first one was the dancing baby Groot in the last 5 seconds. For too many others, that was apparently their favorite. frown

> The whole opening bit with him was kind of crap and scared me that the rest of the
> movie was going to be not good.

Agreed -- I thought/feared the same thing. Everyone was talking about how "epic" the new opener was -- and when I saw it was Baby Groot focused, I was pretty disappointed. That being said, if you ignored him and just watched the background, it was decent! smile

> Thankfully they more than made up for that cold
> open quickly and consistently. Other than that, I thought the final battle was a
> smidge overblown but not like movie ruining or anything.

yes
dustin11
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19-May-2017(#10)
I thought Baby Groot was lame AF. Regular Groot was okay though. Sucks that they put so much of him in GotG2 though, I'll have to go into it expecting to see more of him than I want to in the opening scene.
theJaw
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19-May-2017(#11)
I don't think Baby Groot will bother me too much. He's blatantly the "cartoon character" of the movie so I'm not expecting anything more than that kind of stuff out of him. I've heard nothing but positive feedback toward that character myself except for here on the TZ (whooaa shockingg).

James Gunn has gone on record as saying Baby Groot isn't just a ploy to sell the movie due to his popularity in the first - he just wanted to write a more naive version of Groot.

Considering Gunn's output of work, I tend to believe that. He doesn't seem like a director who lets studio mandates or critical feedback switch up his vision.
ENIX
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19-May-2017(#12)
The only mildly amusing scene with Baby Groot was the one you see in the trailers with the bomb. The rest I felt were a little childish. Again, nothing even remotely movie-ruining, just not amusing IMO.


dustin11
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19-May-2017(#13)
Big Groot rounded off the group of characters nicely. Baby Groot seems like another Rocket Raccoon to me just from what I've seen in the trailers.
Tad
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19-May-2017(#14)

I think teenage Groot has potential to be hilarious.



ENIX
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19-May-2017(#15)
Yes, all of the post credits scenes were pretty gold.


John
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19-May-2017(#16)
dustin11 wrote:
> Big Groot rounded off the group of characters nicely. Baby Groot seems like another
> Rocket Raccoon to me just from what I've seen in the trailers.

In my opinion, there was too much Baby Groot and not enough Rocket in this one.

So, you may be right about him being "another Rocket" -- the problem is that meant a lot less for Rocket.
DiamondDave
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* 20-May-2017(#17)
Guardians of the Galaxy 2: 7/10

Liked the first one better, they overplayed the music shtick but Groot was fine


I'm assuming the actor wanting/needing an out was more the reason for what happened to him than the writers saying "Yeah, let's off him"

Stiler
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20-May-2017(#18)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Guardians of the Galaxy 2: 7/10
>
> Liked the first one better, they overplayed the music shtick but Groot was fine
>
> ...

Actually he didn't really seem like it was something he wanted out of:

http://uproxx.com/movies/yondu-guardians-of-the-ga...

DiamondDave
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20-May-2017(#19)
Oh, never mind, the writers are just retards.

Well, then.
ENIX
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20-May-2017(#20)
I figured it was all done for levity to the story but they picked the wrong character.


I mean, seriously, wasn't killing off Ego, Quill's fudging father enough levity? That was a major character loss, considering. Hell, even kill of Nebula for real. She was neat but not near as important of a character for the series IMO.

It was a massive mistake.


razeak
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20-May-2017(#21)
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - great final moments, a small step back from 1. Still good overall. 7/10

Alien: Covenant 8/10. I pretty much echo Enix, except while I think the 2nd act dragged it down a little, I found the android interaction and philosophy interesting. I just wish it would have been in another movie I needed more Alien in the shadows instead of well lit.
ENIX
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20-May-2017(#22)
I'm not sure how much of my lower score I can attribute to the butt-hole to my right constantly checking his iPhone and iWatch and the couple to my left checking their phones all the time, but I surely missed parts in the middle and near the end because of the constant distractions. I'll rent it and give it another shot, but I'm not sure unless there's a DC that fixes some stuff that I probably won't score higher. We'll see I guess.


theJaw
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21-May-2017(#23)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Yah I don't see a new Alien movie getting higher than a 7 or so, Enix-wise.

ENIX wrote:
> Alien: Covenant - 7/10

I know my reviewers.
ENIX
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21-May-2017(#24)
Blame the middle portion. If not for that, I'd have gone 8 or 9.


theJaw
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21-May-2017(#25)
I'm going on a Pirates-marathon in anticipation of the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie. It looks a lot better than what the last 2 looked like, though I'm almost certain it's just the case of a good trailer. I've only seen the third one time and couldn't get into it due to it being like 3 hours, and my being at a friend's house. I never bothered with the fourth. I remember really enjoying the first and thinking the second was great (I dug the ending), so maybe I can enjoy the others for the schlocky universe they're set in. But I'll be watching them all, along with the two old-school pirate movies ENIX suggested to me, and reviewing them here.
ENIX
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21-May-2017(#26)
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 was unwatchable trash.


Anxiouz
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21-May-2017(#27)
ENIX wrote:
> Alien: Covenant - 7/10
> As a side note: It really bothered me that the xenomorph gestation period was way
> too short. I mean, the first film, it took a while from facehugger to chestburster.
> Obviously the mature lifecycle was very quick to adulthood since the first, but in
> the AvP movies they just had it happen in a matter of minutes and in Covenant it's
> the same way. Maybe I need to rewatch the original film, but I could have swore
> Kane was out for like a whole day-

Agreed. He was certainly out for a long period. I think it's because in Alien and Alien 3 the whole film was about just a single creature so they had the luxury of spending running time on gestation in those. Whether the dog or ox in Alien3, Ripley gets woken up, recooperates a bit, investigates the bodies, and talk to a bunch of people before the creature bursts out.

Since then it's been more about giving the audience what they want, so to get more xeno screen time they started rushing that process.
dustin11
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21-May-2017(#28)
ENIX wrote:
> Pirates of the Caribbean 4 was unwatchable trash.
>
>
>

From beginning to end.
theJaw
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* 21-May-2017(#29)
ENIX wrote:
> Pirates of the Caribbean 4 was unwatchable trash.
>
>

Haha I cannot wait.

You going to bother with the new one?
ENIX
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21-May-2017(#30)
Not outside of Redbox, nope. I have no faith in the series after the 3rd, which was a bit of a mess too. Hell, even the 2nd movie wasn't anywhere near as good as the first. Really, in my opinion, there's only the first movie. It has become one of those things like Resident Evil, Transformers, and Fast and the Furious where it's just continuous unending trash that somehow keeps making tons of money justifying the next one.


ENIX
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21-May-2017(#31)
Anxiouz wrote:
>
> Agreed. He was certainly out for a long period. I think it's because in Alien and
> Alien 3 the whole film was about just a single creature

Holy hell, I forgot about Alien 3. That crap was in Ripley for like a week.



Foxhack
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* 21-May-2017(#32)
ENIX wrote:
> Anxiouz wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. He was certainly out for a long period. I think it's because in Alien
> and
>> Alien 3 the whole film was about just a single creature
>
> Holy hell, I forgot about Alien 3. That crap was in Ripley for like a week.

Well considering Ripley went to sleep with that egg inside her, there's a chance that slowed the gestation down.

That said...

Alien Covenant: 6/10

I enjoyed the talky parts, I enjoyed the parts with Michael Fassbender, I enjoyed the backstory, I did not enjoy the part where they completely crap on Prometheus and that M. Night ending. Why did Ridley Scott have to kill Shaw?! I was hoping she'd find the truth about the Engineers, but all we got was David committing genocide all in the name of curiosity. ARGH.



What a gosh darned waste.

Edit: Oh and there's a bit that happens and this came to mind and I had to laugh.
ENIX
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21-May-2017(#33)
Yeah that whole thing made zero sense.


I don't understand how the ship could have both crash landed (cutting the tree tops off, as noted) as well as landing and dropping the payload. Also, why in the hell did he drop the payload? My understanding from the end of Prometheus was that Shaw went there to get answers, not to just arbitrarily commit genocide...and where was Shaw during the genocide exactly? Because we know she lived long enough to get impregnated with a chestburster from her corpse. And why the hell was David suddenly so emotional? Where did that even come from?



If they'd have left all that out, the movie could have easily just made sense in the form of having some very loose/light Prometheus nods. I didn't mind some of the ideas the presented there, but they absolutely did not fit in this movie.


Foxhack
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21-May-2017(#34)
ENIX wrote:
> Yeah that whole thing made zero sense.

I assume this is what happened:


Shaw repairs David. Soon after, David restrains her somehow. They arrive at the planet, and David dumps the payload, killing everyone in that city, BUT, they must have had some sort of defense mechanism that brought the ship down.

10 years passed between Prometheus and A:C, so how long had Shaw's body been dissected? How did those egg sacks come into existence, if there's no queen to spawn them?

Also, the love thing... David explains it, and the intro to A:C also does the same. Weyland doesn't seem to have any affection for David - at least, a fatherly affection. The way Weyland reacts to David's question in the intro, his face, made me think that Weyland regretted creating him, and giving him a modicum of independence via creativity and curiosity. Once Weyland died, he became completely free to do what he wished. Not to mention David seemed a lot more human-like than he did in Prometheus. I'm guessing, the extended interaction with Shaw over the years helped him understand how Humanity is, and since Shaw fixed him up, and always treated him like a person and not a {i]thing{/i}, he just... started to care for her in his own fudgeed up way.

Walter also mentions that David's synth model was found to be too Human-like and newer models had safeguards that stopped them (no creativity, etc.) Considering he'd been alive for over 50 years by that point, he had evolved beyond his original programming and started feeling, well, feelings.

Or maybe he was sad because he broke Shaw.



We've already devoted more thought to this movie than the actual writers. I'm exhausted.
kevolones
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21-May-2017(#35)
Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates

Very stupid premise and overall story but surprisingly fun to watch. Its better than I expected, Ive seen way worse.

6.5/10
Kommie
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22-May-2017(#36)
Anyone watch Twin Peaks? Lots of complaints saying it's not like the show. When Lynch is in full control, what do you expect? That was the complaint with FWWM.
kevolones
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22-May-2017(#37)
I actually started the first season yesterday. Im not loving it so far. IDK if its the difference in acting after all these years but they all look like amateur actors. It bothers me, really bothers me.
Stiler
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22-May-2017(#38)
I haven't finished it yet, but watched about 30 min last night and saving the rest for tonight.

First impressions were that it just seems "off" compared to the original show.

Instead of characters having witty comments focusing on dialogue and saying funny/strange things it's instead a lot of people quietly "staring" at something, as though that makes it "artsy" or such. It seems to not have that weird-but-loveable bubbly charm that the show had.

I really hope that part of the show comes back again as we get further into the season.
Sid_Ceaser
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22-May-2017(#39)

Don't forget - Lynch has total control over this new season, as opposed to him only having directed some of the old series.

It won't be the same - because this is a Lynch 25 years older, and the stuff that is showing up in the show is stuff that he's been doing in his films since.

But it's still just the first ep(s). There are still hours and hours and hours to go. Especially since it ended on such a dark note at the end of Season 2, you've got to bridge that when starting the new season to bring people up to speed.



theJaw
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22-May-2017(#40)
Still need to binge the OG Twin Peaks. I'm slacking.
Sam
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22-May-2017(#41)
Yo does anyone else think Twin Peaks made as little actual sense as possible just because David Lynch finally convinced somebody to give him a TV series? Like, this dude will never explain the meaning of Eraserhead (one of my top 10 movies) because there isn't one and it makes it more mysterious. I swear Lynch is pranking with some of his stuff
Sam
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* 22-May-2017(#42)
He's just chilling like damn nobody bought this crap on DVD the first time around I'm about to make this dialogue free as fudge
Sam
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22-May-2017(#43)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Still need to binge the OG Twin Peaks. I'm slacking.

good luck bro & at least you admitted you haven't seen the original
Sid_Ceaser
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22-May-2017(#44)
Sam wrote:
> Yo does anyone else think Twin Peaks made as little actual sense as possible just
> because David Lynch finally convinced somebody to give him a TV series? Like, this
> dude will never explain the meaning of Eraserhead (one of my top 10 movies) because
> there isn't one and it makes it more mysterious. I swear Lynch is pranking with
> some of his stuff

... finally? He "convinced" someone almost thirty years ago to do a TV series. This is straight-up Lynch. If you aren't familiar with Lynch, than this seems totally WTF. But if you *are* familiar with him, than this fits his mold. Lynch being Lynch.

I'm not going to knock this weird "TV resurgence" that is happening right now - Gilmore Girls, X-Files, Twin Peaks ... this is good crap for fans.


theJaw
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22-May-2017(#45)
Sam wrote:
> theJAwwww wrote:
>> Still need to binge the OG Twin Peaks. I'm slacking.
>
> good luck bro & at least you admitted you haven't seen the original

Lol I have no problem admitting to things I haven't seen as there's nothing to feel guilty about. I need to watch what came first before checking out the sequel season. I know I'll knock it out at some point. Unless I die, at which point I'll be dead.
Sam
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22-May-2017(#46)
Sid_Ceaser wrote:
> Sam wrote:
>> Yo does anyone else think Twin Peaks made as little actual sense as possible just
>> because David Lynch finally convinced somebody to give him a TV series? Like,
> this
>> dude will never explain the meaning of Eraserhead (one of my top 10 movies) because
>> there isn't one and it makes it more mysterious. I swear Lynch is pranking with
>> some of his stuff
>
> ... finally? He "convinced" someone almost thirty years ago to do a TV series.
> This is straight-up Lynch. If you aren't familiar with Lynch, than this seems totally
> WTF. But if you *are* familiar with him, than this fits his mold. Lynch being Lynch.
>
> I'm not going to knock this weird "TV resurgence" that is happening right now - Gilmore
> Girls, X-Files, Twin Peaks ... this is good crap for fans.
>
>
>

I meant the OG lol this new one is obviously a cash in and im cool with that
Stiler
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22-May-2017(#47)
Not really sure how it can be considered a cash in.

If that were the case they could have totally tapped someone else to do the show rather then getting Lynch/Frost and wouldn't have caved in to Lynch's demands for more money + 18 episode order (seriously, most shows are lucky to get 8-9 episodes on showtime/hbo and similar networks).

Kommie
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22-May-2017(#48)
Sid_Ceaser wrote:
>
> Don't forget - Lynch has total control over this new season, as opposed to him only
> having directed some of the old series.
>
>
>
>
>
>

This here, I have no issue with it as a lot of the original show was hard to watch. It's more like FWWM. Also episodes 3 & 4 are on demand appaerantly.
Anxiouz
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22-May-2017(#49)
I recently tried to watch the original Twin Peaks series and maybe got 3-4 eps in. Nothing was noteworthy to me. Sure it's odd, which can be fun, but I wasn't griped by the story or characters. I went into it knowing I may not understand what was happening but even so it just felt like it was being weird to be weird.

I have to compare it to something like The Leftovers which has been a constant "oooh, something is going to happen" when nothing actually happens. Or it has moments. But then S3 comes out and it's absolutely gripping. Twin Peaks may be like that(?) but I just can't get into it...even with great effort. wry smile

Sam
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22-May-2017(#50)
I mean there was only so much new X Files back in the day you had to turn Twin Peaks on eventually
Stiler
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23-May-2017(#51)
Anxiouz wrote:
> I recently tried to watch the original Twin Peaks series and maybe got 3-4 eps in.
> Nothing was noteworthy to me. Sure it's odd, which can be fun, but I wasn't griped
> by the story or characters. I went into it knowing I may not understand what was
> happening but even so it just felt like it was being weird to be weird.
>
> I have to compare it to something like The Leftovers which has been a constant "oooh,
> something is going to happen" when nothing actually happens. Or it has moments.
> But then S3 comes out and it's absolutely gripping. Twin Peaks may be like that(?)
> but I just can't get into it...even with great effort. wry smile
>
>

Leftovers season 2 was phenomenal, one of the most emotionally gripping shows I've ever seen. It was robbed not even getting nominated.
Kommie
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23-May-2017(#52)
The thing about Twin Peaks is, before it there really wasn't (if at all) serialized prime time TV. One could call it the Citizen Kane of TV, it changed the primetime TV format.
John
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23-May-2017(#53)
Kommie wrote:
> The thing about Twin Peaks is, before it there really wasn't (if at all) serialized
> prime time TV. One could call it the Citizen Kane of TV, it changed the primetime
> TV format.

Interesting. When you said this, my first thought was "That's not right -- we had other serialized stuff back then that was popular", but then I did some searching and really couldn't come up with anything. I'm not sure it really "changed the Primetime format" because it didn't last long enough. I'd say more of that change came a couple years later with X-Files and some others.

But, back in 1990 when Twin Peaks came out, it really was very different to be serialized. Sure, there had been a couple here and there maybe -- but none that seemed as popular.

So, nice observation! I hadn't thought about it like that before. yes
Grenadier
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23-May-2017(#54)
I'd say the main serialized shows before Peaks were likely the prime time soaps like Dynasty and Dallas. Then moving into the 90's you see things like Peaks, Babylon 5, the last few years of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Buffy, X-Files, and many more.
kevolones
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23-May-2017(#55)
The Age of Shadows

Yet another great Korean flick. Its about a group of Korean resistance when Japan had taken over and a policeman thats looking for them. Its very violent, well acted and i thought it was an interesting drama.

8/10
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23-May-2017(#56)
Anyone else checked out the Handmaiden's Tale on Hulu? Pretty well done. I had started reading the book a few years ago but didn't finish it. I think I'll pick it up again. It took me to get to episode 2 to get really drawn into the story but I'm enjoying it. I finished the latest episode and want more now!

devans77
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23-May-2017(#57)
Started watching taboo, from the looks of it I thought it would be a horror show

Foxhack
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* 23-May-2017(#58)
devans77 wrote:
> Started watching taboo, from the looks of it I thought it would be a horror show

... uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh...

You're not talking about the movie... right?
Stiler
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23-May-2017(#59)
Pretty sure he means the Tom Hardy show lol.

Taboo certainly has some strange/horror vibes to some things, i thought it was a fairly good show, can't wait for season 2 next year.
devans77
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23-May-2017(#60)
Yes the Tom hardy show. The picture for it and some elements I saw in the trailer made me think it was horror... but it's a pretty good show anyway

michaeld
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24-May-2017(#61)
Taboo is good, they could do without the stupid scenes with the water and the sister and her dumb stares are the worst
Stiler
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24-May-2017(#62)
The "water" and scenes plays a big part in the overall plot though...kind of a huge part of his backstory and things that are leading toward in season 2.
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24-May-2017(#63)
Taboo - 10/10 - great character work in this one. The family dynamic was an extremely interesting take on the modernized family situation. Kay Parker's portrayal of a mother at odds with her inner-self, I like to imagine, is a faithful reflection of the normal family mother through out her everyday life.

The interactions between her & her son were the high point. Truly epic character study. Highly suggested. yes


Foxhack
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* 24-May-2017(#64)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Taboo - 10/10 - great character work in this one. The family dynamic was an extremely
> interesting take on the modernized family situation. Kay Parker's portrayal of a
> mother at odds with her inner-self, I like to imagine, is a faithful reflection of
> the normal family mother through out her everyday life.
>
> The interactions between her & her son were the high point. Truly epic character
> study. Highly suggested. yes

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Edit: Also looking forward to seeing Get Out on Friday. And yes I know it's out on home video already, I saw it at my local Wal-Mart, but it's supposedly opening here on Friday and so I'm going to watch it then, alone, because most people will be seeing Pirates 5 instead.
ENIX
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* 26-May-2017(#65)
Alien: Covenant - 8/10

Well, on second viewing, I can see maybe I was a bit rash on my original rating/review. I think I was probably a little mad because I wasn't able to pay attention when the movie slowed down and got more talky since around this time, the fudgeers on my left and right were constantly checking their phones and their screens lighting up, which put me in a pissy mood and distracted me from the film. It really wasn't near as bad as I felt the first time around. I think there are still a few fixable missteps that can easily be edited out, but really it's not the crapfest I made the middle section out to be on first watch.

If it were up to me I'd remove:


The flashback showing David dropping the payload on the Engineers (since it's verbally confirmed a few minutes later anyways, and the verbal note versus showing it lends to there being less to explain and leaves more to the mystery.
I would also cut the kissing scene with Walter because it's unnecessary and only clearly there for inclusion purposes. It really doesn't serve any higher purpose or meaning and seems really out of character for a robot.
Trim the fight between David and Walter to remove the last bits with David's speech and to leave more in the air of "who got out".
Trim the big escape scene a smidge. It's a bit much.
Cut the shower scene entirely and just have Daniels and Ten find the dead bodies. It's once again, another unnecessary show, and was very out of place.
Remove the hokey "alien vision" first person bits at the very end. It worked for Alien 3, but not in this movie.
I would also remove the David reveal at the end, have Daniels go to sleep and leave it at that. Leave it on a non-horror trope ending...the old "killer is still alive" thing is a bit tired.



I still don't like the lady who plays Daniels. There's just something about her that looks stupid and she doesn't strike me as a strong actress like Rapace and Weaver were...though that really can't be fixed. But yeah, it's pretty good and could be made better with some light editing. I wonder if there will be some good deleted scenes like the Fifield alternate scene in Prometheus that can be included to make the film better too...


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* 26-May-2017(#66)
ENIX wrote:

I would also cut the kissing scene with Walter because it's unnecessary and only clearly there for inclusion purposes. It really doesn't serve any higher purpose or meaning and seems really out of character for a robot.



Uh. No?


It's not for "inclusion." This has nothing to do with an android's sexuality. This is about David's fudgeed up interpretation of love. It thinks it feels love, but he doesn't. It did the same thing to the hero lady, and it wasn't because she was a woman. David is an android, starving for attention and affection, especially after years of being the only sentient being on the planet and after being treated like a real person by the lady from Prometheus.

Who it killed. And then it claimed it loved her.

... this reminded me a lot of the Nexus 6 synthetics from Blade Runner. They were designed to function as a person, but they didn't know how to react with the proper emotions, and their brains do not know what to do in specific situations.

David does not know what to do, because despite being an android with over 40 years of experiences, he still doesn't have the empathy and understanding present in most of humanity since the day they are born.

Inclusion? Fudging what, dude? Crap.

ENIX
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* 26-May-2017(#67)
They didn't do a good job of portraying that then, if that's your interpretation. To me it felt like a hamfisted forced way of trying to explore a robot's sexuality... and yes, I realize it was done again, but I'd cut that one too. Both felt bizarre and unnecessary. I never said it was for gayness, but probably to fill the bi checkmark. They filled the gay thing relatively naturally without making it feel dumb or forced. I didn't care about the mixed couple with the black guy outside of the stupid shower scene; aside from the showering bit they were fine too. I'm sure there was a lesbian reference somewhere I missed because it wasn't blatant just like the gay dudes.

There's a difference between having something feel naturally embedded and crap that just feels like someone checking that inclusion checkbox. That David kissing crap felt like a checkbox. Sorry, but it did.


Foxhack
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* 26-May-2017(#68)
Again. Fudging what, dude.

You're trying to see something that isn't there. It's not about sexuality. It's about affection and love. No boners.
ENIX
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26-May-2017(#69)
I've seen the movie twice now. I got no other messages from it. If you're getting some other interpretation, they didn't explain that version at all, so I'm left to make surface level assumptions.


Felty
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26-May-2017(#70)
Get Out-Better than expected.
kevolones
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27-May-2017(#71)
Felty wrote:
> Get Out-Better than expected.

Its the trailers fault.
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27-May-2017(#72)
kevolones wrote:
> Felty wrote:
>> Get Out-Better than expected.
>
> Its the trailers fault.

Explain
Stiler
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* 27-May-2017(#73)
Get out - predictable/10.

Why is everyone saying this has a great twist? The trailers pretty much give away the entire movie....

Unless I missed something...


I mean the trailer basically spells out the entire plot, guy goes with his girlfriend to her parents and something "strange" is going on with the black people there. The twist of them using their bodies/brains was just a slight sci fi element but it was nothing truly unexpected or out of left field, especially if you're a horror movie fan.

.
kevolones
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27-May-2017(#74)

From the trailer, I expected prejudism stuff, maybe wanting to kill him or whatever normal horror stuff. I never expected hypnotism, and it actually wasnt really about prejudice.

theJaw
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* 27-May-2017(#75)
It was completely about prejudice.

The family were unconsciously mega-racist. But it was racism spawned from the other side of the fence than usual. Most commonly, racist whites hate black people and view them as below them. In Get Out, the family (and neighborhood) took their liberal stance on black folk to a new level by viewing black folks as superior. They wanted to take their bodies because they simply couldn't just view black people as equals, but instead superior physically. This made them feel justified - which is wrong.

They were subconsciously building that wall of prejudice while thinking that their mindset was progressive and understanding. But really, they were just as prejudice and racist as folks who look down on black people because they STILL refused to just view Chris and the others they kidnapped as equal human beings as opposed to superior vessels for their "superior" minds.

Which is what makes Get Out a real good reflection of the extreme left-wingers who can be just as dangerous as the extreme right.

kevolones
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27-May-2017(#76)
You make a good point.
Foxhack
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27-May-2017(#77)
Really, I thought it was just

idiots who wanted to hijack peoples' bodies to keep on living forever, and they had a black people fetish.



Also I never saw the trailers. I don't watch trailers anymore. They spoil EVERYTHING nowadays.
DiamondDave
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27-May-2017(#78)
That's the best thing about the trailers before a movie in the theater. I only have to go two or three times a year and I feel like I saw everything.
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27-May-2017(#79)
Sausage Party: 3/5 - I barely laughed at the movie. I recognize it did a lot of things right, and I loved the worldbuilding in the movie, but I just didn't find it funny at all.
JD
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28-May-2017(#80)
200 cigarettes 9/10
Very underrated movie its great flick - rewatched it today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OogUDJc-NjQ

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