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* 29-Aug(#1)
Right now we have the ppv prediction threads and the thread for the fantasy league but I figure we could use a thread for all wrestling discussion like we have with football and basketball, that way people can use it all year round.

Also, I had something I wanted to advocate. I don't watch wwe these days, more into other wrestling promotions, but I do skim results and check out highlights of stuff I hear is really good. And this is REALLY good. From raw last night, one of those cena firey shoot-ish promos I love and it's directed at none other than Roman Reigns. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3vIsN-MD9U

Also, Cena/Reigns and Lesnar/Strowman feel way too big for a nothing ppv, very interesting that they didn't save these for mania or even rumble/survivor series.
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30-Aug(#2)
Yeah i agree that those 2 matches should have been on any big 4 ppvs same with bliss and jax if jax wins that is

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30-Aug(#3)
oh yeah, heard bliss won the title right back? Weird.
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30-Aug(#4)
Yep sasha can't even hold on title long

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30-Aug(#5)
Smacks of desperation. Upset with their ratings? I dunno. I'm not seeing great potential, though, e.g., I still feel there is a lot more they can do on SD... I'm not really understanding Raw.
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31-Aug(#6)
Gaming is cool here as well?

Speaking of wwe 2k18, i'm liking roster updates so far, more legends love

https://www.thesmackdownhotel.com/wwe2k18/roster/

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Jersiah
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31-Aug(#7)
yep sure, all things wrestling are welcome. I wish I did this sooner, had so much to see about the g1 in new japan.

i haven't played a wwe 2k game since they got rid of the showcase modes but i'm definetly impressed every year at how good it looks are how loaded the rosters are. Heard about some of the nxt additions and it's very cool to see guys like roderick strong in a wwe game.
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31-Aug(#8)
Owen Hart and Crash Holly please i doubt they'll be in

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31-Aug(#9)
Molly Holly too

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31-Aug(#10)
LOVE those choices
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31-Aug(#11)
Crash holly used the styles clash as a finisher.. look it up
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* 31-Aug(#12)
shadyfozzie wrote:
> Crash holly used the styles clash as a finisher.. look it up

I remember seeing him do it back in the day on WWE Velocity. And after Crash Holly died, Billy Gunn started doing it.
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31-Aug(#13)
Seriously? Billy gunn did the styles clash?
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* 31-Aug(#14)
Random thought but I just watched the match recently...

Out of all Undertaker Mania matches, he's had plenty of great ones. It's fine to never talk about his crappy WM matches, like vs. Big Show/A-Train or vs. Big Boss Man, but there's one of his great matches that I feel never gets talked about. Undertaker vs. Ric Flair, WrestleMania X8. This match had so much emotion heading into it, with Taker at the height of his "Big Red" heel persona, taking out Flair's kid and forcing the Nature Boy to step down as "co-chairman" in order to return to active competition. The match itself was super memorable. Flair was busted open through more than half of it, and even Taker shed some blood. One of the most triumphant moments in WWE history happen in this match too, in my opinion. While it didn't lead to a Flair victory, Arn Anderson's run-in Spinebuster on Taker to help out his brutally beaten fellow Horeseman was incredible. Not only for the pop it got, but just to see Arn get a WrestleMania moment in a big "save" was real satisfying. It was out of nowhere and so effortlessly pulled off. Anderson is an unsung hero.

Anyhow, just had to share that. Been revisiting matches that I love on the Network and that's a match that I constantly have an urge to watch for that Anderson run-in.
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31-Aug(#15)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Anyhow, just had to share that. Been revisiting matches that I love on the Network
> and that's a match that I constantly have an urge to watch for that Anderson run-in.


I've been doing that too. Last night I watched ECW One Night Stand 2005. I was really just in the mood to watch Mike Awesome vs Masato Tanaka (a match I go back and watch at least once a year) but that's just one of those rare events for me where every match on the card was great and I can watch it and not skip through anything so I wound up watching the whole show.

So I watched 'rassling practically since birth up until 2012. It got extremely boring and I felt like I was only watching out of habit by that point. Then they brought back Brock Lesnar and having him lose to John Cena in his first match back was the last straw for me, so I decided to stop watching it (in 2013 I started going to local indie shows around here but it only lasted around 6 or 7 months before I got bored of that, too). I'd hear about awesome CM Punk promos, so I'd just watch them YouTube and I'd still keep up with what was going on once in a while via WWE Classics On Demand (before the WWE Network came along). For a little while I started getting back into watching weekly, but they weren't keeping my interest so I stopped watching again.
Now I started once again, and the first thing I noticed is they seem to have killed off Titantron videos. Instead of playing video clips of the wrestler Superstars, it seems to just play animated gifs ("I am phenomenal" for AJ Styles for example). How long has that been going on?
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1-Sep(#16)
Totally agreed jaw, that match was great and the arn run-in got a HUGE pop from me
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1-Sep(#17)
Flair and Taker was awesome. That superplex was probably the second best part of the match besides the Arn run in. This was second best match of the show besides Rock and Hogan and it's not even close.

It does kind of get buried though and I don't know why, besides WWE doesn't really acknowledge biker Taker much in their history.
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1-Sep(#18)
@PizzaTheHutt think it started this year, along with them losing fireworks. Pretty sure it's a cost cutting measure because they're wildly off projected earnings for the year.
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1-Sep(#19)
Arn was hurt when he did that wasn't he?
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* 1-Sep(#20)
If he was he's even more the man. That moment ruled.

I've been listening to a bunch of Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard and What Happened When Mondays with Tony Schiavone. Great podcasts hosted by Conrad Thompson. Funny stuff, and gives great insight to some wrestlers and shows. The topics are decided by fan poll.

Lately, if they announce an episode is about a particular show, I'll go back and watch the show before listening to the podcast. This monday, Conrad and Schiavone are covering "War Games 2000" which was a "Nitro-PPV," or a big event on Nitro. I'm watching it right now, and holy crap this stuff was bad. A super long half hour-long segment featuring Russo, Nash, Sting & Goldberg with the "Ready 2 Rumble" Triple Cage lowered. Apparently the War Games match is in this cage during this episode, and from this segment, it looks like it's going to be a crap show.

Regardless, it's real fun to revisit (or visit for the first time) some of these old shows to get the insider scoops after. But usually in Tony Schiavone shows, they just crap on each WCW show they watch. Real funny. It's understandable because it was apparently the worst working environment ever.
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1-Sep(#21)
Holy crap Russo was so bad as an authority. This is the worst.
JD
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5-Sep(#22)
I notice cena is growing his hair out, could it be sign of him turning heel? Or just movie role

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5-Sep(#23)
He wanted that distinguished bald spot because he saw how well it worked toward the longevity of Hogan's career.
JD
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5-Sep(#24)
That makes sense actually i did notice bald spot few weeks ago

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16-Sep(#25)
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Jersiah
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16-Sep(#26)
hahaha
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17-Sep(#27)
Fudging Jeff Jarrett. A guy who didn't go quite far enough in the WWF but was never going to be World Champion. He got way too much in WCW and he never should've been a World Champion there. And he never should've been the focal point in TNA for 4 years.

Allegedly he has some personal issues he's working on now so I hope he gets those addressed but man... how many times can you be in and out of a company you used to own?
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* 17-Sep(#28)
Broke six thousand guitars, never drew a dime.
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17-Sep(#29)
Real interesting 4 hour Something to Wrestle With podcast this week about Jeff Jarrett's WWF runs. Was never a Jarrett guy but I love the backstage scoops.
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17-Sep(#30)
Fwiw I love double J

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17-Sep(#31)
Super heel

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* 17-Sep(#32)
Bobby Heenan died. frown
http://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/90954405494103654...
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17-Sep(#33)
RIP Brain.
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17-Sep(#34)
RIP Brain 😔
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17-Sep(#35)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Real interesting 4 hour Something to Wrestle With podcast this week about Jeff Jarrett's
> WWF runs. Was never a Jarrett guy but I love the backstage scoops.

Not for nothing, but the terms 'real interesting', 4 hour' and 'Jeff Jarrett' probably shouldn't ever be in the same sentence.
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17-Sep(#36)
Brain nooooo he inspired a big portion of my horrible attitude

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17-Sep(#37)
Bobby Heenan taught me to talk smack. I love the guy. RIP.
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17-Sep(#38)
Love watching old raw of his announcing.


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* 18-Sep(#39)
Royal Rumble match 1992 - The Brain at his all time best commentary-wise.
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18-Sep(#40)
Brain - "How long have you been married?"

Man - "Twenty-one years."

Brain - "You realize if you murdered her on your wedding night, you'd be out by now?"

Simply the best.




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18-Sep(#41)
Brain and Gorilla were gold together.

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18-Sep(#42)
Man i remember hennan and warrior feud those are gold, but hey they're back to feud again right now
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19-Sep(#43)
Brain: (Hulk Hogan's theme music plays) "That's my second favorite song."
Gorilla: "I'm almost afraid to ask...what's your favorite?"
Brain: "All the rest are tied."
Jersiah
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19-Sep(#44)
Haha oh man that's awesome, don't remember that one at all
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19-Sep(#45)
A friend in need is a pest.
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* 24-Sep(#46)

Finally a match I wanted Cena to win and he can't even do that right. Pretty lame match overall and definitely not as big of a deal as WWE wanted us to think it was.


Guess I'll put it in spoiler tags for anyone not watching live.
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25-Sep(#47)
What a crapty ppv.
Jersiah
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25-Sep(#48)
I only saw brock/braun but I definetly would call that a massive disappointment. Really thought it'd be a fun big man chaotic match but it was actually pretty boring. Not a fan of brock's no-buildup F5 just suddenly ending the match again.
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25-Sep(#49)
I don't even know how they went from like 4 F-5s not finishing a guy to 1 being the end of everything. Like what the hell. And it didn't do Braun and favors either.
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25-Sep(#50)
Looks like Shield will eventually be reforming to take on the Miztourage. They pulled the old "Shield fist taunt" deal after they butchered Reigns, and they don't seem to be starting a tag title program anytime soon. Oughtta be neat seeing Shield back at least. Looks like it could end up with Reigns beating Miz for the IC belt to get gold on all of them, though that seems like an odd spot for the dude who has beat Taker, Lesnar, Cena, etc.

Hope they turn heel honestly. Pull a year-2000 DX and just go on a power trip now that they've all been so successful.
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25-Sep(#51)
Also, pumped to see Goldust getting highlighted a bit lately. Heel Goldust rules and he seems to only get better the older he gets.
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25-Sep(#52)
Is goldust still heel? Heard he had a thing with bray wyatt so I guessed they turned him face
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25-Sep(#53)
Yeah, he just attacked Finn tonight and re-turned haha.Their match is on right now (commercial break atm).
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25-Sep(#54)
*shakes head* Oh wwe....
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26-Sep(#55)
Someone has to turn weekly now that Big Slow isn't around as much.
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26-Sep(#56)
Yup. Sadly.
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26-Sep(#57)
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God this show sucks.

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* 2-Oct(#59)
Genuinely creepy Wyatt promo tonight for once. The effect was a little cheesy when it first popped up but with the laughter it was pretty neat and real unsettling. Hoping the Abigail storyline finally pays off. This feud could go a long way in getting these guys closer to that glass ceiling.

Shield is coming back in a refreshingly unshocking manner. For once WWE aren't just feeding us the obvious but trying to pass it off as if nobody realizes what's happening.

No one gives a fudge about Enzo as Cruiserweight champ and even less when the big "new signee"'is just Kalisto in Saiyan armor.

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2-Oct(#60)
Well, they had to move Enzo over to try and save the show. Nobody watches 205 Live.

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2-Oct(#61)
Oh and I'm so happy it's looking like Sheamus, Cesaro, and Miz. Axel and Bo just wouldn't have been believable.

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2-Oct(#62)
ooo i like the sound of that MUCH more. Thumbs up!
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3-Oct(#63)
Yah lol they straight up wrote off Axel and Bo just to bring Cesaro and Sheamus out to run pretty much the same "pose over Reigns" angle. It's like they just restarted it haha

I was even thinking "wouldn't it be funny if this Reigns chair attack was to get the two jobbers out of the angle?" And lo and behold haha
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3-Oct(#64)
Haha that's awesome
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3-Oct(#65)
Wake me up when Aleister Black debuts on the main roster
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8-Oct(#66)
Well that was certainly the best tag team HiaC match ever. Starting the show with the main event.

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8-Oct(#67)
Wiiiildly good HIAC match just then. The New Day/Uso's feud was top notch. yes
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8-Oct(#68)
AJ Styles is real good at pro wrestling.

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8-Oct(#69)
I thought Jinder was improving slightly but he really is a fart in church.

Digging the "anti-spectacle" Ziggler entrance, especially in contrast to Roode's Glorious schtick.
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8-Oct(#70)
Teddy Hart is the greatest wrestler that ever lived.
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8-Oct(#71)
Not even kinda
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I love Corey Graves calling it how it is. When someone said "he didn't get all of it" Corey explicitly said whoever (Dolph?) didn't get his leg over the neck for the leg drop. He's also calling out the ref for allowing a rope break in a HiaC match.

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8-Oct(#73)
Did M Night Shyamalan write the script for that main event?
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I enjoyed the jinder match. Definitely their best outing.

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9-Oct(#75)
DefaultGen wrote:
> I love Corey Graves calling it how it is. When someone said "he didn't get all of
> it" Corey explicitly said whoever (Dolph?) didn't get his leg over the neck for the
> leg drop. He's also calling out the ref for allowing a rope break in a HiaC match.
>
>

Yeah I appreciate his commentary not treating the audience like idiots.
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9-Oct(#76)
Oh man, I was waiting for Kevin Owens to do a running senton off the cage onto Shane on the announcer's table. It didn't happen, because it would've been too insane / dangerous, but my mind went there.
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9-Oct(#77)
Sun wrote:
> Oh man, I was waiting for Kevin Owens to do a running senton off the cage onto Shane
> on the announcer's table. It didn't happen, because it would've been too insane
> / dangerous, but my mind went there.

Pretty much what Shane did to the table, minus the whole running part haha. Not much difference between a senton and an elbow drop from 20+ feet up haha. Just a big ol' back bump.
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* 9-Oct(#78)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Pretty much what Shane did to the table, minus the whole running part haha. Not much
> difference between a senton and an elbow drop from 20+ feet up haha. Just a big ol'
> back bump.

Except Kevin Owens has about 36 more pounds on Shane, and imagine if Shane actually took the bump. Way too dangerous for that to happen, though I wish it did evil.
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* 9-Oct(#79)
Sun wrote:
> theJAwwww wrote:
>> Pretty much what Shane did to the table, minus the whole running part haha. Not
> much
>> difference between a senton and an elbow drop from 20+ feet up haha. Just a big
> ol'
>> back bump.
>
> Except Kevin Owens has about 36 more pounds on Shane, and imagine if Shane actually
> took the bump. Way too dangerous for that to happen, though I wish it did evil

Haha yah the senton would have been bruuutal. I still give props for Shane bumping off anything high though because it's 110% unnecessary considering the dude is the owner's son and getting up there in middle age. I don't think he has too many of those left in him but he's got some nads.
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You know, Sami's reasoning for helping Kevin actually makes perfect sense.

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