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2-Oct-2019(#1)
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Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
PizzaTheHutt
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* 8-Apr(#2)
Someone is set to debut on SmackDown tonight with a really terrible name change. Like, possibly the worst one yet.


Marcel Barthel on the main roster is to be "Ludwig". He'll be called up alongside Gunther/WALTER.

theJaw
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8-Apr(#3)
WWE is so bad when it isn't Wrestlemania, man... unreal.
PizzaTheHutt
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8-Apr(#4)
sa330206 wrote:
> Anyone watch the WWE "Evil" mini-series on Peacock? I haven't watched pro wrestling
> since the Attitude Era but I really enjoyed that series. I had no idea Roman Reigns
> had gone through so much with cancer outside the ring and also how much the fans
> hate him. I also found Ric Flair's story interesting as he really "lived the lifestyle"
> he portrayed in the ring.


I've only watched the episode on Hulk Hogan so far. It was pretty good and I look forward to watching the rest.
KCPenguins
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9-Apr(#5)
I don't know how this eluded me until now, but I'm so glad it did. Thank you youtube algorithm!

(Before you click, in your head I want you to guess what it is)

https://youtu.be/Fahljd_0xjA
lazarro
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9-Apr(#6)
can't believe the booking direction of reigns and his ego powertrip but to be fair other organizations have done same thing

wcw-nwo
wccw-general ackbar

to name a few

all im going to say eventually its going to say and before the haters speak. yes i know vince in charge wants it that way. i still find the fact unified champion but another title will be created
theJaw
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* 13-Apr(#7)
Watching Young Rock. On the show, it follows kid Rock, teenage Rock, and young adult Rock. This episode was a young adult Rock episode and there's a scene where he interacts with his "little cousin Joe", who leaps on his back and goes "someone ACKNOWLEDGE ME!" Roman Reigns, obv. Joe, just a kid at this point, then asks Rock to play-wrestle him, and Rock tells him "the world's not ready yet, a match that big can only happen at WrestleMania". Then there's a subtle yet meaningful glare from Joe to Rock.

So if there's any doubt that Rock vs. Roman is happening at WrestleMania 39 (so far dubbed "WrestleMania Hollywood"), that little tease should just about erase it.
PizzaTheHutt
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18-Apr(#8)
India.com is reporting that WrestleMania 38 garnered a whopping 56.1 million viewers on Sony Sports Network in India. The debut of Veer is also credited for a nine percent boost in Raw viewers in India.

That's f'n impressive.
PizzaTheHutt
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29-Apr(#9)
Dakota Kai was released today, as was Malcom Bivens. Dakota will be alright, she'll get picked up elsewhere for sure. Bivens likely will too, he's a funny dude and what he lacks in size he makes up for in charisma and humor. I would've liked for him to get a gig on commentary or something. His contract was coming up and he chose not to sign a new one.
theJaw
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29-Apr(#10)
MJF tweeted a photo of him and Bivens doing the same taunt, likely from an old indie show or a convention or something, with the text "Uh oh". Looks like it has since been deleted.

Would love to see him get a role in AEW. I know the new cool thing to criticize AEW on the internet for is "signing too many people", but Bivens would be a welcome addition.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 29-Apr(#11)
Paige Prinzivalli aka Blair Baldwin
Harland, aka Parker Boudreaux
Sanjana George, aka Vish Kanya
Draco Anthony, aka Reginald Chase Crews
Mila Malani, aka Kellie Morga
Raelyn Divine, aka Jaylen Williams
Stephanie De Landre aka Persia Pirotta

All released. If you don't recognize those names it's because most of them are not really featured on TV much (if at all). It sucks for Persia because apparently she had just purchased a house last week.

edit: Oh crap, Dexter Lumis is gone too.
lazarro
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29-Apr(#12)
i can see a few going to AEW

missed AEW weds

on a side note my mom had knee surgery yesterday so weds didn't get a chance to watch.Dynamite. For whats its worth i still think AEW is by far the better promotion than wwe.show wise.

lazarro
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30-Apr(#13)
Don't be shocked when the list of main roster releases come out

See this is what separates aew from wwe

Some of the matches are not booked as feuds and when aew does build feuds they do a better job of it

Just my opinion honestly
PizzaTheHutt
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1-May(#14)
Ryback proving once again how much of a piece of crap he is.
https://www.thirstyfornews.com/2022/04/30/pro-wres...
theJaw
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2-May(#15)
According to a Fightful report, Roderick Strong has requested his release from WWE.

Cannot blame him.
lazarro
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3-May(#16)
Be prepared for heel and face turns

Didn't watch raw looks like Nikki is turning heel as the gimmick ended last night with Nikki and doudrop

Curious why they wwe had reigns and usos wrestling as a team unless they are grooming them for pay per view match
theJaw
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3-May(#17)
Reigns + Usos (The Bloodline) are having a match vs McIntyre, Orton & Riddle at Backlash.
PizzaTheHutt
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3-May(#18)
Pretty good read and I agree with it. Roman Reigns still desperately needs someone to step up and be his main rival.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/03/wwe-still-has-a-hole...
PizzaTheHutt
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* 4-May(#19)
That's not good.
"Sources have indicated that the relationship with Yuke's and AEW, specifically Kenny Omega, isn't in the best place at the moment. According to those close to the game's development, Omega has found himself frustrated and "hating" working with Yuke's. One person even claimed that it has come across at times like Yuke's was trying to "take advantage" of an inexperienced Omega in this position."
https://twitter.com/SportsGamersOn/status/15218532...
theJaw
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* 4-May(#20)
Yah that does suck, Kenny's the man, but tbh the footage they dropped of the game today looks fairly promising. I mean it's not a ton of footage but I think it looks fine, just depends on how it actually plays.

There was also a report from Fightful that suggested that there were about 50 wrestlers on the release roster, but that there would be some disappointing omissions. Which is certainly worrisome, though apparently "DLC is being discussed". I betcha part of Kenny's frustrations stem from those discussions. So far I think the only confirmed playable characters are: Kenny Omega, Chris Jericho, Darby Allin, Hikaru Shida, Jungle Boy, The Young Bucks, Owen Hart, Kris Statlander, Nyla Rose and Thunder Rosa.
theJaw
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4-May(#21)
The Owen Hart Foundation tournament brackets, oughta be fun stuff:

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SilverOwl
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5-May(#22)
I'm really enjoying WWE 2k22. Anyone else played it, and if so, what is your thoughts on it. I like that they made it somewhat more arcade. What surprised me the most is that it preforms really well on my series s, and it doesn't look too shabby either. I'm sure the past version looks better, but for what it is, the series s holds up pretty well in this game. And a steady frame rate to boot.

shadyfozzie
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5-May(#23)
theJaw wrote:
> The Owen Hart Foundation tournament brackets, oughta be fun stuff:
>

Hope the "Joker" is Cesaro..
PizzaTheHutt
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8-May(#24)
I had pretty low expectations out of tonight's main event, but it was pretty good. Same with Ronda vs Charlotte.
theJaw
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8-May(#25)
Not a bad match on the card but yah, either Rhodes/Rollins or Rousey/Charlotte was match of the night. Way over-impressed.
PizzaTheHutt
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12-May(#26)
What do you guys think ends up happening with MJF? He's been very vocal for a while about feeling he has proven he is worth more than what AEW currently pays him and is open to signing with WWE if AEW can't up his pay (I think he still has a year left on his current contract). I expect more guys might start using WWE as leverage when their contracts are coming up (nothing wrong with that, it's smart).

If he does end up in WWE, the obvious money match is with him and The Miz, maybe even having them team up for a bit (I think they'd be able to play off each other well in promos) before one turns on the other which should lead to even better promos. But they need plans beyond just The Miz and it'll need to be with people that can keep up with him on the mic, someone like Sami Zayn or Kevin Owens.
theJaw
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12-May(#27)
It'd be interesting to see him go to WWE in some ways but tbh I think him constantly mentioning the possibility of signing with them is just a snarky response to the constant rumors that he's one of the AEW stars WWE is interested in. I don't think he really plans on it, I think he's just heeling it up so to speak. Of course if the money's better, it'd make sense, but I think what he's saying lately is just MJF being MJF with no immediate intentions on dipping.
theJaw
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12-May(#28)
Oh I actually just saw a report from Fightful saying he is indeed frustrated with contract talks lately. Tony Khan would be a fudging moron to not bend over backward to keep him.
theJaw
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12-May(#29)
(Still cconvinced it's a work tho)
PizzaTheHutt
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14-May(#30)
I guess Lio Rush just un-retired again? He showed up on the NJPW PPV just now
PizzaTheHutt
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15-May(#31)
It looks like the issue with MJF is that Tony is willing to pay him more, but wants him to sign a new deal for several more years. MJF just wants a raise on his current deal without adding any type of extension to it.
theJaw
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15-May(#32)
I'd say TK is in the right there. That's generally how football teams function, so makes sense why TK would want to get more time out of him for more money. Tbh MJF would be silly not to take the deal.
lazarro
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15-May(#33)
virgil former wrestler has stage 2 colon cancer
lazarro
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17-May(#34)
Wwe raw plans scrapped last night. Quite hilarious why creative can't get it right though of course it go through boss McMahon anyways. Not surprise of hearing something like this each week regarding wwe
lazarro
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17-May(#35)
Wow just read that Sasha banks and Naomi walked out raw. I know this is not the first time Sasha had an issue

Anyone have any inside @theJaw
PizzaTheHutt
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17-May(#36)
Yeah, apparently them walking out is why parts of Raw had to be re-written.
theJaw
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17-May(#37)
According to Fightful, they had an issue with an idea pitched by Vince for a 6-pack challenge to decide a contender for the Raw Women's title but the exact details are unknown. Most reports seem to think that they were standing up for themselves and the women's tag division in general when they walked out on Vince.

I imagine they'll be back to work eventually. With Sasha having one foot in Hollywood and Naomi being part of Reigns' family, he's probably gonna have to fix this up sooner than later.
PizzaTheHutt
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17-May(#38)
I've read this isn't the first time Naomi has tried to leave. Whatever problems she had are usually smoothed over by the weekend and she's back to work as normal.
And Sasha, we know has a history of just walking away when she doesn't like something. Lets hope she doesn't earn the kind of reputation Tessa Blanchard has.

Honestly I think the treatment they give certain people (Charlotte Flair specifically) might cause jealousy among some of the females on the roster. It's no secret that Sasha and Charlotte were close in NXT but had a falling out right around the time Charlotte started getting way more opportunities than most others.
theJaw
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17-May(#40)
Well Tessa Blanchard has a reputation of being a racist bully more than anything. That's why she "walked away" from WOW recently, because others had an issue with her personality/behavior. I wouldn't compare Sasha's issues to hers personally.

And jealousy is just a common thing in pro wrestling in general. Hogan, HBK, etc, the list goes on. Honestly Sasha is way, way better than WWE have given her credit for even with the list of accomplishments she's received, she's right to be over WWE pushing her to a secondary role imo. Naomi even more so, she's incredible in the ring and has barely gotten a fair shake.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 17-May(#41)
According to Bryan Alvarez, there is virtually zero support for Sasha backstage, in fact some are downright mad at her and calling her a Mark even though she thinks she's doing the right thing. Naomi seems to have little to no heat over this, it's all going to Sasha.

theJaw
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* 17-May(#42)
Yah, it's a classic "pissed Vince" scenario. No one's gonna publicly speak up about it because it was likely mandated that they don't. Several other performers, including former WWE wrestlers, have shown support. This happens every once in a while when someone challenges the WWE producers.

Also worth noting the only people in the business who actually use the term "mark" unironically are folks who want to shed a negative light on a situation/person.

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PizzaTheHutt
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19-May(#43)
Anyone catch this last night?
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theJaw
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19-May(#44)
Yah I watched it. Little underwhelmed with that but knowing neither Joker would progress through the tournament over folks who were in it from the start, I was fine with it not being HUGE. The crowd totally popped when they saw "Johnny" thinking it was Gargano tho.

Hangman vs. Takecrapa was a phenomenal match that should be sought out asap if you haven't seen it.
PizzaTheHutt
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19-May(#45)
Developer walkthrough of the first 15 minutes of WrestleQuest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Q3bxuA_0Y

lazarro
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19-May(#46)
@PizzaTheHutt

that picture is john morrison not gargano

several wrestling news sites has stated such
theJaw
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19-May(#47)
Wrestling sites rumored that Gargano would show up, but Morrison did. Gargano will likely still end up in AEW with Candice LeRae regardless.
lazarro
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19-May(#48)
theJaw wrote:
> Wrestling sites rumored that Gargano would show up, but Morrison did. Gargano will
> likely still end up in AEW with Candice LeRae regardless.

the arm raised in photo is what morrison used to do in his intros before his match post MNM
theJaw
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19-May(#49)
lazarro wrote:
> theJaw wrote:
>> Wrestling sites rumored that Gargano would show up, but Morrison did. Gargano
> will
>> likely still end up in AEW with Candice LeRae regardless.
>
> the arm raised in photo is what morrison used to do in his intros before his match
> post MNM

I know... but how is this relevant? Haha

He asked if anyone had seen Morrison show up in AEW because he was the "joker" vs Samoa Joe on Dynamite last night.
theJaw
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* 19-May(#50)
Oh I'm just now realizing the actual Tweet loooool. Friggin AEW social media.
lazarro
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19-May(#51)
My bad

i miss this forum with my selfish opinionated posts
lol

on other news

stephanie mcmahon stepping away but i think this was figured to happen anyway

which probably means we'l have to suffer with current storyline writing and changes before the show merry go around while vince is still around.

btw i been missing aew lately

my mom is recovering form knee surgery and i been on a watching tv or movies on the computer binge lately
and i have to suffer cause my 360 is in console heaven

(i know off topic, but i should really watch wrestling instead of reading about it)
PizzaTheHutt
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22-May(#52)
Who thought this was a good idea? Executed like one of those old Backyard Wrestling stunts.
https://twitter.com/BonafideHeat/status/1528405717...
theJaw
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* 22-May(#53)
That's been done before with no issue, but using fire in a wrestling match will always have its risks.

GCW rules btw, so don't let that botch sour you on them. They are unapologetic with their death match main events but the majority of their cards are great mid-2000s style indie wrestling. And even the death matches can be fun for the spectacle, though they're not really my bag. I'll watch GCW any time I can catch it because I know I'm going to get top notch wrestling.
PizzaTheHutt
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22-May(#54)
Yeah I've enjoyed the few GCW shows I've watched. I think this just looked funny (if not a little unprofessional) with the water bottles being thrown and the camera filming him the entire time. It reminded me of an old skit Tom Green did on his old show called Burning Feet Man.

lazarro
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23-May(#55)
Man this Sasha and Naomi saga is like it won't end. The stuff I'm reading I can't even tell if it was planned or scripted.

To be honest they deserve what they get
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23-May(#56)
Please get FTR somehow on Double or Nothing, lol
PizzaTheHutt
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* 23-May(#57)
lazarro wrote:
> Man this Sasha and Naomi saga is like it won't end. The stuff I'm reading I can't
> even tell if it was planned or scripted.
>
> To be honest they deserve what they get


I have mixed feelings on it. I feel like they're standing up for themselves, not really for the womens division as a whole. Imagine if Asuka and Kairi Sane did this when they were pushed into a tag team, had a couple of matches on SmackDown and then weren't used again on TV for around two months back in 2019. Each of them deserved better treatment, but they didn't whine about it.

Sasha is someone they won't want to let go of easily. She's too valuable.
Naomi, her in-ring work is just average at best. I mean keep in mind she is 100% built by WWE, she came in towards the end of the Divas-era with no prior experience in pro wrestling. So in my opinion as someone who is a big fan of womens wrestling and tries to watch as much Stardom and TJPW as I can (because that's where some of the best action is), yeah Naomi sells a lot of merch to little girls and she is a better wrestler than Stacy Kiebler or Torrie Wilson were at the height of the Divas-era (which isn't saying much), but in the end she is easily replaceable and if I had a say in anything I'd have let her go last week when they walked out. This is all going to be about trying to make Sasha happy, Naomi is just there for the ride.
theJaw
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23-May(#58)
Naomi is miles better than she was when she started, Sasha is on a different level. Walking out for being misused isn't "whining". If that's the case, then Austin was whining back in 2002. Sometimes, it's okay to acknowledge WWE just sucks in certain aspects.

WWE has gotten away with treating their "independent contractors" like crap for way too long, so what Sasha and Naomi are doing is 100% standing up for the workers in general. Honestly, they should just be able to quit without this thunder storm of controversy or Vince having the commentary team bury them live on air. They aren't "employees" the way WWE treats them, yet they can't quit. That's the real issue. Same with when Ali requested his release and was kept off TV until WWE decided to use him. It's BS.

WWE performers can't take outside bookings, can't choose what they wear on TV, need to follow orders from management, can't quit when they see fit. They can be released at any time, kept from getting steady work for 90 days, but can't request a release in the same time frame. That is the definition of "employee" yet WWE has gotten away with keeping them tied to a leash, without medial benefits, for decades. As has been suggested, this could potentially get far worse before it gets any better because there are literal laws being broken with the way WWE handles contracts, it's just that wrestlers haven't had a viable option for employment if they wanted to make good money since the late 90s. There was a report recently that suggested Sasha or Naomi could literally take WWE to court if they wanted to and the case could easily impact WWE's awful employment system.

That said, Sasha & Naomi's frustrations stemmed from the fact that Vince wanted to feed the two tag champions to the two singles champions, which is arguably worse than just not using them. That not only makes them as competitors look bad, but it makes the tag titles look bad too. Champions should be treated as champions, WWE's ancient way of pushing the main titles over the tag titles is for the birds. Tag team champions should be as highly regarded as singles champions, but WWE has programmed their audience into thinking that could never be the case.

Personally, I hope WWE gets what they deserve in realm. It's been a long time coming. But I imagine they'll just offer them more money to keep quiet, come back to work, and all will continue as usual.
shadyfozzie
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23-May(#59)
Naomi is married to an uso, and they've been arrested on dwi how many times? They won't release her..
PizzaTheHutt
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* 23-May(#60)
They may not have to release her since each of their contracts are up in around two months and they were each going through re-negotiating stages when this all happened. They could've just fulfilled their obligations and chose not to re-sign. That's partly what makes me think this might just be more about them wanting more money than anything to do with tag titles. Sasha did this once before when she and Bayley lost the tag titles and she came out of that situation with a lot more money.

But like so many others who fans feel deserve better treatment (how many of us were kinda hoping Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens would've chose not to re-sign earlier this year for our own selfish reasons?), if WWE throws enough money at them they will suck it up and fall back in line. They've got families to feed and that's more important than what the IWC thinks.

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23-May(#61)
Pretty sure Sasha could just skip the WWE circus and get into movies and tv. WWE is an abortion at this point.
PizzaTheHutt
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25-May(#62)
So on Konnan's (yeah, the guy who used to throw his shoe at people) podcast, it was said this stems from an idea that was pitched to Becky, who then declined it, and it somehow then trickled down and affected plans involving Sasha and Naomi's booking.

He also says Sasha has been having some troubles in her personal life (when she started unfollowing a lot of WWE staff on Twitter, her husband was included in that), she's been erratic for several months, making "controversial and often times borderline racist comments" during media scrum if it's a white journalist interviewing her, and often ordering large bottles of spirits backstage in catering and at house shows. She was basically seen as a ticking time bomb that finally went off. None of this was said by Konnan, it's the co-host (his version of Conrad).

My previous post was a bit off, according to this guy Naomi's contract isn't up in two months, it's up in September.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vojzI8UeYco&t=674s
theJaw
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25-May(#63)
He said, she said. In my opinion, Sasha is allowed to be annoyed with her treatment regardless of any information we do or don't know - it's her job and livelihood. Being part of several wrestling discussion circles, I'm personally so over the endless assumptions and obsessive commentary from certain folks on this situation. If she had an issue with her booking, she's free to object to it, and (should be) free to leave if she wants to. Vince and WWE need to get their heads out of their asses and maybe so many of their employe--- sorry, independent contractors won't consistently get so annoyed by the way the company functions.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 25-May(#64)
Anyone know if NJPW World has an app for Roku yet? If they do, I can't find it, and I don't want to subscribe regularly if the only option to watch it is when I'm at my PC.

edit: To be clear I mean actual NJPW World. I know the Roku Channel itself offers NJPW content for free, but the most recent stuff they have is from 9 months ago.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 25-May(#65)
TL;DR this guy claims he was paid by GCW owner Brett Lauderdale to make fake negative COVID tests, then goes on to list several other scummy things he's done. Assuming this stuff is true, he almost sounds like a bigger piece of crap than Vince McMahon, which is not easy to do.
tbh though I would expect Paul Heyman to be guilty of half this stuff if ECW was still a thing

https://twitter.com/DoxxxyStocksy/status/152952766...

theJaw
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* 25-May(#66)
Yeah I'm willing to believe that's 100% not true. That doxxy guy is a known craphead and since going to work for a rival company, (McDonald) seems to have a grudge against GCW. Lauderdale already commented saying he referred all this info to his lawyer and "as much as he'd like to", he's been cautioned not to comment. Cardona & Moxley both regularly work for GCW and also work for companies that are known to test their wrestlers, so it'd be real coincidental if neither of them caught covid or had to sit out shows due to covid while folks with positive tests worked on the same shows as them.

Also, the dude didn't seem to think this through. He's claiming Lauderdale paid HIM for false test results. Meaning coming out with this information, if true, would make him just as liable for jail time as Lauderdale. I don't think he would openly out himself as a felon if he actually did this, he's just trying to rake GCW and Lauderdale through the mud.

I mean, I obviously don't know for sure, but trusting isolated screenshots from known dickheads on wrestling Twitter more often than not proves to be a poor decision.
PizzaTheHutt
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25-May(#67)
Ol' McDonald is losing some of his indie bookings after this

lazarro
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27-May(#68)
So I read wwe wanted to make Sasha n Naomi a prime example if anyone wants to pull this kinda stunt again

You know it's kinda funny would they pull this crap a major tier superstar.

For what's it's worth I'm sure other people feel the same way about their booking and just going along with it and keeping quiet

I don't feel sorry for Sasha or Naomi

theJaw
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27-May(#69)
I don't feel sorry for them either, because they're doing what they want and not taking WWE's crap anymore. That's a yes from me.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 27-May(#70)
On the subject of wrestlers being unhappy with their employer, anyone keeping up with this NJPW bullcrap? They held a little press conference last night (this morning for us) and basically tried to sweep all the drama with Ibushi under the rug and pretend everything is fine. But he's already back on Twitter calling them out and pretty much asking to be fired.

Of the Japanese friends I've talked with about this, none are on his side. Over there you pretty much don't ever speak up and cause a commotion, you just do what is expected of you and keep your unhappiness to yourself. Basically, they're the definition of sheeple. I asked if they could give me any other examples of a Japanese wrestler making it publicly known how unhappy he is with the company he's under contract to, but so far nobody has been able to.
theJaw
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* 27-May(#71)
Yah Ibushi is sorta breaking new ground with this stuff, and good for him. I mean, I still love NJPW because there are a ton of talented folks in front of & behind the scenes there, but it's no secret how fudgeed up the pro wrestling business is over in Japan. Just about every big time promotion has had dealings with the Yakuza going back as far as the 60s if not earlier, which is why folks are afraid to speak up. I could've sworn NJPW already did fire Ibushi at this point but could be mistaken.

I'd say he'd be a perfect fit with Omega in AEW, but considering AEW is doing that Forbidden Door show with NJPW, I'm not too sure if he'd be willing to just yet. Also not sure if he'd even be able to contractually by June.

This stuff really couldn't have come at a worse time for AEW. NJPW has been a pillar of great wrestling in the scene for decades at this point, it's rough going that somebody finally chose to speak up about them a mere month before AEW & NJPW's big super card. But some things (most things tbh) are more important than pro wrestling.
PizzaTheHutt
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27-May(#72)
I've read people speculating that he probably just regrets signing with NJPW and that he seemed happier just doing his own thing as a freelancer, taking bookings around the world with whoever wanted him (you might remember that brief run he had where he tore crap up in NXT and the Cruiserweight Classic back in 2016).

theJaw
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* 27-May(#73)
I mean, he probably regrets re-signing with them after what he's talked about, but I doubt it's solely because he had a better time working as a freelancer. He's said in the past that he never really intended to move out of Japan, so NJPW would be his obvious home promotion for that reason alone.

I'm not sure why anyone would need to speculate on his reasoning considering he's straight up stated why he's upset. I'll never understand the need some folks have to come up with alternative scenarios whenever a celebrity/public figure comes forward about abuse they've endured. I doubt it's just because he was having a better time elsewhere, though that of course may be a small part of it. He's upset at having been physically and mentally abused by crapty higher-ups, which is hardly a scenario exclusive to NJPW/Ibushi.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 27-May(#74)
Well anything is open for public speculation when you so openly put it on the internet like that. Certainly not limited to 'rassling, but since that's the thread we're in I'll use it, but Meltzer and Sapp make a living off of speculating on things that people may not want to be made public.

theJaw
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* 27-May(#75)
That isn't true, at least in Sapp's case. I've been following him for a long time. When something regarding someone's personal life drops, he announces it for free without any pay wall, and only after other people have circulated it. He doesn't speculate about anything in that realm. Sapp, and really any wrestling journalist, get such a raw end of the stick from the IWC (cough wrestling twitter cough) because he reports crap that they may not want to hear. Otherwise he posts legitimate interviews and scoops from actual sources that turns out factual 95% of the time. You can argue he makes a living off what a PROMOTER may not want made to the public via details on a show or a return, etc, but he absolutely doesn't make money off a wrestler's personal life. Objectively.

Meltzer is an old schooler and does come off decently obnoxious at times. I don't hate him, but he's certainly one of the reasons folks immediately hate on wrestling journalists or news sites these days.

And to be honest, it's certainly open for public speculation but there are different levels of necessary speculation depending on the situation before it just becomes an "I don't believe that person" scenario. Ibushi has already bared his soul about being abused, I don't think people really need to read into that any further unless they just want to keep their blinders on and act like he's playing victim. Same with the Sasha/Naomi situation. "No way their feelings in this situation that I have absolutely no idea about are valid, so here's what they're PROBABLY really mad about..."

Treads "bad faith" territory more often than not.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 28-May(#76)
If MJF being unhappy with AEW is a work, they're making it very convincing. He no-showed a Meet & Greet today.

edit: Sapp confirms MJF has booked a flight out of Vegas.
https://twitter.com/fuller_kiley/status/1530640624...

theJaw
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* 29-May(#77)
100% a work. Unless something wild officially happens, I'll stick on my "work" train. But I do think they're pulling the wool over many folks' eyes.

I think this is them planting seeds for their own "Summer of Punk" angle (ROH style, not WWE), because he could totally win the AEW title by his last month in 2023, and hold that title hostage. Planting seeds THIS early (and even earlier)... THAT would be fudgein' something to see.
theJaw
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* 29-May(#78)
Worth noting, AEW's official Twitter tweeted out an ad for MJF vs. Wardlow as of this morning. So if it's not a work, and it being a work seems to be increasingly less likely, it would seem both parties came to some sort of agreement or AEW at least thinks they will by show time. MJF never boarded the flight.
theJaw
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* 29-May(#79)
Here's the full Double or Nothing card, just for the heck of it. It's MEGA stacked, so it's bound to be a lengthy show. Here's hoping they can at least pace it well enough to make it not FEEL as long as it'll definitely be. Either way, considering they only hold 4 legit PPVs a year, I can't complain. AEW puts out consistently great wrestling content so I'm here for it regardless of length.

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PizzaTheHutt
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29-May(#80)
OVW coming to Netflix.
I sometimes watch their show on PlutoTV if it happens to be on late at night and I want something to watch while I fall asleep.
https://411mania.com/wrestling/ohio-valley-wrestli...

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