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Topic   Charlottesville Protests

whitefire
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12-Aug(#1)
I hate it when protests end up like this, regardless of who's at fault. I hope this doesn't get too political, but I thought it was worth a thread.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/charlotte...



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Karaiya
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12-Aug(#2)
Oooo take this to the politics forum Whitefire. Unh-uh. We already all up in it.

Subject pivot:

Meanwhile on public access...

https://youtu.be/0RcP0Wz4eq4



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someoneelse
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* 12-Aug(#3)
I noticed this deflection in the article and had to roll my eyes.

"The battles have been intensified by the election of President Trump, who enjoys fervent support from white nationalists."

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Karaiya wrote:
> Oooo take this to the politics forum Whitefire. Unh-uh. We already all up in it.
>
> Subject pivot:
>
> Meanwhile on public access...
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If @bill feels this shouldn't be in General, no worries. I understand. I thought it was borderline myself as maybe being allowed only in the politics forum.



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whitefire
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someoneelse wrote:
> I noticed this deflection in the article and had to roll my eyes.
>
> "The battles have been intensified by the election of President Trump, who enjoys
> fervent support from white nationalists."
>
>

I tried to find an objective article, but I gave up. Lol.



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whitefire wrote:
> someoneelse wrote:
>> I noticed this deflection in the article and had to roll my eyes.
>>
>> "The battles have been intensified by the election of President Trump, who enjoys
>> fervent support from white nationalists."
>>
>>
>
> I tried to find an objective article, but I gave up. Lol.
>

That's not an easy task lol
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12-Aug(#7)
Thanke, Bill. I understand completely.



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Karaiya
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whitefire wrote:
> someoneelse wrote:
>> I noticed this deflection in the article and had to roll my eyes.
>>
>> "The battles have been intensified by the election of President Trump, who enjoys
>> fervent support from white nationalists."
>>
>>
>
> I tried to find an objective article, but I gave up. Lol.
>
>

LOL NOT EVEN POSSIBLE. Sorry man.

Thanks for creating the topic. This violence is crapty but this is our climate politically. Whether what side of the aisle you are on, we need to acknowledge that we have a long poisonous history with race in this country that didnt just disappear after the civil rights movement.






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12-Aug(#9)
One person reported dead by Charlottesville's mayor.

https://twitter.com/MikeSigner/status/896450387783...
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* 12-Aug(#10)
Bringing it from the other thread

Don't forget. These people were largely emboldened by Bannon, Gorka, and Trump. They deserve a bit shared responsibility for these terrorist actions.

And now, for the "race-baiting".

White supremacist show up with loaded guns and armor to be peaceful, then kill a person with a car. Police defend their protest.

Imagine if the had any deadly weapons, like their bare hands, or a loose cigarette.





Cheese
Karaiya
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* 12-Aug(#11)
Correct, when people call Trump a racist its not only because of the crap he says, its because of the company he keeps. Gorka, Bannon.

There is also Jeff Sessions, but he's not playing like a "Good 'ol boy" so he's in the dog house. But that guy too.

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Muslim in a truck 'act of terror'. White nationalist in a car and it's a 'tragedy'.
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The Daily Stormer is a racist right wing publication. This was on their website in their words, for those who are hesitant to hold Trump, and his statement accountable.

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Cheese
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Let's not forget Richard "Punch me and I'll call you Daddy" Spencer's hot take on Trump's statement:

"Did Trump just denounce antifa? Or did Trump denounce the state police that cracked down on peacefully and lawfully assembled demonstrators?"

https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/8964295...
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/8964299...

Trump is still refusing to denounce the racist crapheads, for obvious reasons. He can't lose his base.
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12-Aug(#15)
Trump says:

"Crooked" Hilary
"Lying" Ted
"Fake" News
"Very Cowardly" Comey
"Beleaguered" Sessions
"Dump" White House
"Many sides to the issue" Nazi's




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* 12-Aug(#16)
MikeyWhoa wrote:
> The Daily Stormer is a racist right wing publication. This was on their website in
> their words, for those who are hesitant to hold Trump, and his statement accountable.
>
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>

This is why folks who look at this situation and say "well, look both sides are wrong" are complicit and frankly cowardly these arent two children that refuse to share or a protest on public policy against government. This is a march of clear hatred by one side the white supremacists, who came looking for violence so much they were equipped and armed to intimidate. And the other side again saying NO UNACCEPTABLE. We will stand against you and a young woman lost ger life apparently to a white supremacist.

Our president has failed to take a clear stance. It doesn't mean we have to. The person who wrote this and people of the white nationalist movement realize they have leader that won't hold them accountable. If Trump is not a racist the only thing I can do is call him and the powers that be cowards.


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Karaiya
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12-Aug(#17)
What is your free speech worth if you lack the constitution to speak against what is clearly wrong?

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MikeyWhoa wrote:
> The Daily Stormer is a racist right wing publication. This was on their website in
> their words, for those who are hesitant to hold Trump, and his statement accountable.
>
Holy crap, when i woke up this morning i had no idea that this was going to turn out the way it did.

In other news though, did they shoot down a fudging helicopter??
http://myfox8.com/2017/08/12/virginia-state-police...
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12-Aug(#19)
No, they didn't crash a helicopter, whatever happened to them was unrelated to the protests. It's a tragedy, a very unfortunate coincidence.
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12-Aug(#20)
Yeah, although there was violence it wasnt to the point that folks were shooting down helo's lets hope that never becomes a reality in our nation.

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King_link
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13-Aug(#22)
Why won't Trump call this terrorism?
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Because it would offend his brainwashed, racist base. You know. The people who were at that rally. He'd lose over half of his 33% approval rating.
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Sam wrote:
> Did anybody from this forum recently buy a dodge challenger
>
>

@Sam did you come in here looking for POG? Haven't seen 'em in a while.

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Oh come on guys, stop picking on POG. Sure, he has some ... odd viewpoints, but I don't think he'd be caught dead at any event like this.
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King_link wrote:
> Why won't Trump call this terrorism?

To be fair, Obama never called a terrorist organization like Black Lives Matter out as a terrorist organization when they were openly rioting and killing cops last year. If you support a black supremacist organization like BLM, then you are just as racist as anyone in the KKK

Antifa is on the list of terrorist organizations in some states, notably New Jersey, so things are changing some, it would be better to go after them for the crime of terrorism on a more national level and declare them enemies of the state.
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dracula wrote:
> King_link wrote:
>> Why won't Trump call this terrorism?
>
> To be fair, Obama never called a terrorist organization like Black Lives Matter out
> as a terrorist organization when they were openly rioting and killing cops last year.
> If you support a black supremacist organization like BLM, then you are just as racist
> as anyone in the KKK
>
> Antifa is on the list of terrorist organizations in some states, notably New Jersey,
> so things are changing some, it would be better to go after them for the crime of
> terrorism on a more national level and declare them enemies of the state.

(( CITATION NEEDED ))

Edit: gosh darnit why is this being turned into a Wiki link
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dracula wrote:
> King_link wrote:
>> Why won't Trump call this terrorism?
>
> To be fair, Obama never called a terrorist organization like Black Lives Matter out
> as a terrorist organization when they were openly rioting and killing cops last year.
> If you support a black supremacist organization like BLM, then you are just as racist
> as anyone in the KKK
>
> Antifa is on the list of terrorist organizations in some states, notably New Jersey,
> so things are changing some, it would be better to go after them for the crime of
> terrorism on a more national level and declare them enemies of the state.

Thanks Kevin. But BLM is not even close to a Black Supremacist movement nor did they or have they killed any human being.


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dracula wrote:
> King_link wrote:
>> Why won't Trump call this terrorism?
>
> To be fair, Obama never called a terrorist organization like Black Lives Matter out
> as a terrorist organization when they were openly rioting and killing cops last year.
> If you support a black supremacist organization like BLM, then you are just as racist
> as anyone in the KKK
>
> Antifa is on the list of terrorist organizations in some states, notably New Jersey,
> so things are changing some, it would be better to go after them for the crime of
> terrorism on a more national level and declare them enemies of the state.


I think most of the leaders and members in the BLM movement are looking for equality, the decline of racism and peace. Sure there are ignorant and terrorist minded people that associate with the group but the majority of the members don't consider themselves to the one pure race. Nearly everyone is in agreement that anyone in the KKK is a piece of crap.

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Foxhack wrote:
> Edit: gosh darnit why is this being turned into a Wiki link

If you had it with double-square brackets around it, Bill uses that for Wikipedia links, just as Wikipedia does.

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King_link wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> King_link wrote:
> |>> Why won't Trump call this terrorism?
>>
>> To be fair, Obama never called a terrorist organization like Black Lives Matter
> out
>> as a terrorist organization when they were openly rioting and killing cops last
> year.
>> If you support a black supremacist organization like BLM, then you are just as
> racist
>> as anyone in the KKK
>>
>> Antifa is on the list of terrorist organizations in some states, notably New Jersey,
>> so things are changing some, it would be better to go after them for the crime
> of
>> terrorism on a more national level and declare them enemies of the state.
>
>
> I think most of the leaders and members in the BLM movement are looking for equality,
> the decline of racism and peace. Sure there are ignorant and terrorist minded people
> that associate with the group but the majority of the members don't consider themselves
> to the one pure race. Nearly everyone is in agreement that anyone in the KKK is a
> piece of crap.


Under the heading 'Anarchist Extremists: Antifa', the njhomelandsecurity.gov website characterizes Antifa under the designation of "domestic terrorism".
https://www.infowars.com/new-jersey-homeland-secur...

Hopefully BLM is next.
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George Soros bankrolls BLM, it's difficult to say what his endgame is(and a number of other of other organizations, if I had to guess, I'd venture to say that he simply wants to see the western borders(Europe, the USA) flood their borders with as many criminals and terrorists as possible to bring about a world war 3, with the Muslim countries and so on are dismantled or nuked. Soros is a zionist billionaire, what does he have to gain by funding organizations like openborders, moveon, and BLM? All of that is a means to an end, to escalate these conflicts to a boiling point within his lifetime.

If you are talking about the actual figureheads of the BLM, they are just pawns and useful idiots to Soros

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Karaiya wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> King_link wrote:
> |>> Why won't Trump call this terrorism?
>>
>> To be fair, Obama never called a terrorist organization like Black Lives Matter
> out
>> as a terrorist organization when they were openly rioting and killing cops last
> year.
>> If you support a black supremacist organization like BLM, then you are just as
> racist
>> as anyone in the KKK
>>
>> Antifa is on the list of terrorist organizations in some states, notably New Jersey,
>> so things are changing some, it would be better to go after them for the crime
> of
>> terrorism on a more national level and declare them enemies of the state.
>
> Thanks Kevin. But BLM is not even close to a Black Supremacist movement nor did
> they or have they killed any human being.


Incorrect. BLM is currently being sued for their role in the murder of the 5 police officers last year in Dallas.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/09/us/lawsuit-black-liv...

If and when they lose, it will just be George Soros money anyways, he can afford it.
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Infowars, Zionists, Soros........Come on man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

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Oh you have a real pointed disdain for BLM I can tell. Look, being sued for something and actually being responible is to different things.

BLM did not endorse not plan the murder of 5 Dallas police. Because that is not even what is happening. You didnt even read that CNN article you posted Devin. The officer shot in Baton Rouge is suing. And currently whether or not he can sue them is still be decided by a judge. He is suing them because he believes rhetoric caused the former Marine to ambush and shoot the police officers. That can be decided by a court. But that dude was not a member of BLM that killed those police officers.

I encourage you to read the articles and research your posts beforehand before getting into conversations in this forum. The 8 core dudes here do. Welcome to the group.
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@dracula you have a very warped perception of the world. You've made false equivalencies of mass proportions.
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Karaiya wrote:
> Oh you have a real pointed disdain for BLM I can tell. Look, being sued for something
> and actually being responible is to different things.

I don't like antifa, or BLM, or ISIS, or the KKK or any of the terrorist organizations. You clearly have no problem with BLM, but dislike the KKK, I see them for what they are, they are 2 sides of the same coin, BLM is just more active as far as rioting and facilitating cop killing.


> BLM did not endorse not plan the murder of 5 Dallas police. Because that is not
> even what is happening. You didnt even read that CNN article you posted Devin.
> The officer shot in Baton Rouge is suing. And currently whether or not he can sue
> them is still be decided by a judge. He is suing them because he believes rhetoric
> caused the former Marine to ambush and shoot the police officers. That can be decided
> by a court. But that dude was not a member of BLM that killed those police officers.
>
> I encourage you to read the articles and research your posts beforehand before getting
> into conversations in this forum. The 8 core dudes here do. Welcome to the group.

Since you seem interested, why do you consider it a tragedy if someone gets killed while rioting, or counter protesting or whatnot, but on an average weekend in Chicago(or any big city) many more people were killed, just another weekend in Chicago and it's not newsworthy?

Why do the thousands of deaths from black on black murders every year not matter to you at all, but if a white cop defends themself in the line of duty and shoots a black person while they are drawing a gun or reaching for a gun, that is some sort of catastrophe and worth rioting/protesting over?
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I'm just going to say that if you really think there's some big conspiracy behind BLM / Antifa and that they're bankrolled by a single person then you need to get your facts straight. As much as I argue with a lot of people here, their opinions are grounded on reality, and they don't use a big bad rich boogeyman as a reason to lump everyone together.
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Foxhack wrote:
> I'm just going to say that if you really think there's some big conspiracy behind
> BLM / Antifa and that they're bankrolled by a single person then you need to get
> your facts straight. As much as I argue with a lot of people here, their opinions
> are grounded on reality, and they don't use a big bad rich boogeyman as a reason
> to lump everyone together.

Soros was named as a defendant in that suit, and if you are suggesting that he isn't heavily funding basically all of the major leftist activist groups, you might want to take a closer look at being grounded in reality. ALL of that is very easy to trace, it's not like he is hiding the amount of money that he's been pumping into all of those organizations.

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, I'm saying it's happening in plain view, and been going on for a while.
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Alex Jones is right, wake up people!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8



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dracula wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> Oh you have a real pointed disdain for BLM I can tell. Look, being sued for something
>> and actually being responible is to different things.
>
> I don't like antifa, or BLM, or ISIS, or the KKK or any of the terrorist organizations.
> You clearly have no problem with BLM, but dislike the KKK, I see them for what they
> are, they are 2 sides of the same coin, BLM is just more active as far as rioting
> and facilitating cop killing.
>
>
>> BLM did not endorse not plan the murder of 5 Dallas police. Because that is not
>> even what is happening. You didnt even read that CNN article you posted Devin.
>
>> The officer shot in Baton Rouge is suing. And currently whether or not he can
> sue
>> them is still be decided by a judge. He is suing them because he believes rhetoric
>> caused the former Marine to ambush and shoot the police officers. That can be
> decided
>> by a court. But that dude was not a member of BLM that killed those police officers.
>>
>> I encourage you to read the articles and research your posts beforehand before
> getting
>> into conversations in this forum. The 8 core dudes here do. Welcome to the group.
>
> Since you seem interested, why do you consider it a tragedy if someone gets killed
> while rioting, or counter protesting or whatnot, but on an average weekend in Chicago(or
> any big city) many more people were killed, just another weekend in Chicago and it's
> not newsworthy?
>
> Why do the thousands of deaths from black on black murders every year not matter
> to you at all, but if a white cop defends themself in the line of duty and shoots
> a black person while they are drawing a gun or reaching for a gun, that is some sort
> of catastrophe and worth rioting/protesting over?

You don't think I care about black people killing other black people? Ive lost family members to black on black violence. It doesnt change the fact that black are disproportionately over policed. BLM also does work in the black community again to change black on black violence. Again, ignorance by you on the subject in.

In regards to BLM vs. KKK. Lets be clear here you are comparing a group that has never killed any person and is a police reform group to a white supremacist group responsible for killing, lynching, terrorizing, and politically intimidating 1000's of blacks and Jews since reconstruction.

They are not two sides of the same coin they aren't even equivalent. Say what you want about Antifa but they also have never killed or terrorized 1000's of American citizens other than some property destruction and punchings some white supremacists in the face.

The media not covering black and black death is nothing new. The media and American society does not care about black people killing black people. Don't pretend you care you clearly don't outside of being able to use it in a tired ass argument about something to you have showed you clearly no very little about based on everything you just said. I know this because you can't eve pay attention to the details of an article you posted which is not only an indication of your own anti-black bias but your lack of actual caring for the tragic situation and deaths of police officers. You dont know what your talking about you just want to talk again if you have opinions that is fine but come with some actual accuracy and knowledge about the subject youre trying to debate.

I get it that you are a pro law and order compliance no matter what person. Thats fine, but our civil rights dont require us to blindly comply with law enforcement. You dont even know the names of these people.
I do. Freddie Gray was unarmed and shot in the back while running. Sandra Bland was unarmed woman held in the back of police car with mental health issues that hing herself in a jail cell when she belonged with a mental health provider and Tamir Rice a 13 year old had an airsoft gun the only thing close something resembling a gun and was shot to death while inside a vehicle not pointing it at officers. Philando Castille was legally carrying and told the officer he was armed, COMPLIED and was executed with impunity. Alton Sterling was shot point blank in the chest while being held down. Eric Garner was choked to death by police for selling lose cigarettes after telling them he could not breath. Michael Brown was shot to death after allegedly walking towards police. Black people while making up 12 percent of the population make up a disproportionate amount of our prison system and are policed disproportionately.

I'm not going to try to insult you but you need to actually read the stories, no the history, and check the stats before having the conversation.
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There is to be another rally on September 11th at Texas A&M where Richard Spencer will speak.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Ac...
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^^ I was going to put this in the other thread, but it fits so much better here

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Dracula you're a fudging pussy. Are we not allowed to call actual Nazi's, Nazi's? Extreme liberals who want safe spaces are pussies. Extreme conservatives who want major medical to cover their boner pills but take issue with major medical covering certain things for women are fudging pussies.

When two groups show up to express their first amendment rights one of which is there to represent equality and one of which is there to represent repression and intolerance is it's really a surprise whose going to eat the lions share of the blame when things turn violent?

I adamantly will defend someone's right to speak their mind no matter how distasteful i find their words. But once you combine those words with physical violence then it goes beyond a first amendment issue. Then it becomes something more and it's perfectly fine to talk about how fudgeed up it is, to criticize it.

If the next bunch of white enthusiasts show up and sing songs and use their words exclusively, as distasteful as their message may be they have a right to express it. The moment they become violent they are then susceptible to both criticism and prosecution.
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Prime wrote:
> Dracula you're a fudging pussy. Are we not allowed to call actual Nazi's, Nazi's?[/quote]

Right now you are conflating the alt right with Nazis. It's false equivalence, some of you say you are against false equivalence? I highly doubt it. Let's take actual terrorist groups like antifa and go ahead and call them nazis, as they are the true facists and on actual state terrorists watch lists.


>|> When two groups show up to express their first amendment rights one of which is there
> to represent equality and one of which is there to represent repression and intolerance
> is it's really a surprise whose going to eat the lions share of the blame when things
> turn violent?


In this case, you have to blame the city of Charlottesville. One group that was protesting had got a permit to hold a protest, reported to be approx 500 people. Another group showed up, reported approx 1000 people, showed up with no permit to counter protest. The cops did nothing to disperse the second group, even though they had no permit(I don't know who made that decision, either the chief of police or mayor probably?). These are the uncomfortable facts that the left hates about this matter.



> I adamantly will defend someone's right to speak their mind no matter how distasteful
> i find their words. But once you combine those words with physical violence then
> it goes beyond a first amendment issue. Then it becomes something more and it's perfectly
> fine to talk about how fudgeed up it is, to criticize it.

I agree, who exactly are you criticizing here? The group who showed up to assemble with a permit, or the group who showed up with no permit to counter protest and cause trouble?

>
> If the next bunch of white enthusiasts show up and sing songs and use their words
> exclusively, as distasteful as their message may be they have a right to express
> it. The moment they become violent they are then susceptible to both criticism and
> prosecution.

The narrative being pushed here is that the counter protesters are somehow innocent victims in all of that, the fact of the matter is that they were holding an illegal assembly with no permit, just the facts.

For the record, I think that Antifa and the KKK are complete idiots, again just 2 sides of the same coin. I am very proud of Trump for taking a similar stance and telling it like it is. Very bold to stick to his guns like that.
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Permit Shmermit. This is America the concept of a permit to congregate here is egregious to begin with. If you plan to use your voice in America there is a certainty that it will be met with a voice to oppose. This is one of the fabrics on which this country was woven. So do us all a favor and stop sucking your own cock long enough and stop hiding behind this permit business.

If the roles were reversed I'd say the same thing. The permit issue is irrelevant and if not irrelevant it's a thin.

I don't know who got violent first and again really it's erroneous. Groups have like the KKK have always gotten their paperwork together to hold public rallies in the past they were never confronted. People stayed away for the most part.

So what you have here is a group of people to use violent speech. I won't even use hate speech. Speech very much including a narrative that includes taking the country back by force and by any means necessary. When people show up to express the opinion "like hell you will" you can't be surprised that A) People showed up to counter your message with their own. And B) be surprised when a fight breaks out and then be like we were playing so nice with our paperwork and tourches and swatiksas before these other people showed up and ruined it all.

When the school bully shows up at your house with his cronies and they're standing outside taunting you, letting you know how good you're gonna get it when they see you, then you go out there and say "I'm right here, you're seeing me now, what's up?" No matter what happens from that point forward could who was the antagonist ever be in question?

If the kid goes out there with a can a mace in his back pocket as insurance, you know just in case the fire wielding, swastika emblazoned fellows aren't friendly after all and somehow eludes the first attack and snipes them all out with a quick shot of fire water, in what world we blame the kid?


@dracula you're whole argument is bullcrap posturing. You drop in and say inflammatory things, devils advocate all up in this dog. And you know what I appreciate a good devils advocate. Gives a conversation some teeth, you've really got to show your hand, no bluffing. But you pop in here and you're fluff, flash and full of baloney. If you had any legs you would just post a meme poking fun. I called you a pussy because that's how pussies argue. Instead of elaborating of philosophy, or interpretation of law, or anything real behind your words you equate the KKK to BLM.

I bet you think the OG black panthers where a bunch of thugs too. Trouble with righties on the extreme side of things is you never want to give anyone else a chance to offer an opposing perspective.


Got to love when people stand up to the bully then the bully plays the victim. Classic play out of the pussy Trump Playbook.
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And if you don't think the people carrying the Nazi flags and fire calling for whites to rise again are the bullies then you can go smell farts in hell for the next thousand years like the rest of them.
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Permit was to protest the pending removal of an historical statue, did that seem to be the main thrust of the permittees?
Open carry state or no, were assault weapons and other guns/combat items an important part of statue protest?
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It was for them. It's all the rage nowadays for fragile men to brandish a weapon when they're terrified. And they were preemptively terrified. Cowards.




Cheese
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Prime wrote:
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All I can say is that your tears taste delicious
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@dracula a person of any kind of real substance would continue the discussion. They'd make counter points and they'd be able to offer their perspective while participating in a discussion. You're go to move is basically to call me a snowflake instead or basically side stepping a discussion in favor of cute memes and wise ass remarks. I don't shed tears. You've just exposed yourself as someone whose purpose is solely inflammatory. You aren't interested in an intelligent exchange of dissenting opinions. You're gonna say your peace then insult and dismiss everyone who disagrees with you. I may have insulted the manner in which you argue but I actually addressed your claims with genuine rebuttals. This is a place for adult discussion, which you are clearly incapable.
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He reminds me of myself. I like him.

In fairness, I still love you too Prime.
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Yeah @Prime. @Dustin is right. @dracula made his intentions abundantly clear brother. You'll find more meaningful discussion in your pocket. Feed at your own risk.

I suggest being funnier than trolls without acknowledging. He's only mediocre to begin with. He's copypasta at best.




Cheese
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MikeyWhoa wrote:
> @Dustin is right.

I knew you'd come around buddy!
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Blind squirrels. Nuts. All that jazz.




Cheese
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@MikeyWhoa a point well taken.
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At least Dustin is funny. This guys got a chip on his shoulder and talks about things he's not even informed about. Dustin at least sticks to things he knows and has good delivery.
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thatonedude
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dracula wrote:

> In this case, you have to blame the city of Charlottesville. One group that was
> protesting had got a permit to hold a protest, reported to be approx 500 people.
> Another group showed up, reported approx 1000 people, showed up with no permit to
> counter protest. The cops did nothing to disperse the second group, even though
> they had no permit(I don't know who made that decision, either the chief of police
> or mayor probably?). These are the uncomfortable facts that the left hates about
> this matter.

You need to stop taking Trump at his word. There were two different permits issued to the 'counter' protesters. At least one of these parks are less than a mile away from the park where white nationalist rally.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36099395/city-of-charlo...
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I've been waiting until we had more proof, but here it is: we're being played, and probably not for the reasons that you are thinking: Both of the leaders of each of the sides of the Charlottesville protest,(both the 'unite the right' white supremecist Jason Kessler, and leader of the counter protesters, Brennan Gilmore, are both high ranking agents of the democratic party. The reason why mayor Michael Singer ordered the police to stand down and not disperse the protesters was to intentionally create a media spectacle, and he worked with both of the organizers to achieve this. We should not be surprised by any of this.

When Charlottesville mayor Michael Singer said he would turn Charlottesville into "ground zero for the anti trump movement" after Trump's election last year, creating media stunts like the one last weekend in Charlottesville is apparently what he meant by that. I thought it was VERY strange that all of the media outlets covering the weekend in Charlottesville said that the police had orders to stand down, from the mayor, and not get involved when fights broke out between the protestors and counter protesters. The reason for that is that Mayor Singer was trying to create a media stunt and he needed at least one dead body to do that. For you leftists, these are your leaders, is this what you want them to be doing? For the people on the right, this is what your opponents are capable of, does any of this really surprise you?

from www.whatdoesitmean.com

>
August 15, 2017

Russia Reports CIA "Genocide Expert" Orchestrated Charlottesville Mob Violence

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A truly shocking Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that a known Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) "genocide expert", named Brennan Gilmore, was a "key orchestrator" behind this past weekends racial motivated mob violence occurring in Charlottesville, Virginia--and whom Russian intelligence experts have previously blamed for being a "central figure" behind the genocidal fighting between Muslim and Christian militias in the Central African Republic. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]

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According to this report, in 2012, Brennan Gilmore was a known CIA deep cover operative stationed by the Obama regime as a Deputy Chief of Mission to the US Embassy in the Central African Republic, and who worked exclusively with the Muslim rebel group Séléka that were successful in the overthrow of that nations Christian majority controlled government on 24 March 2013--thereafter causing a Christian militia backlash of genocidal proportions known today as "The Forgotten Conflict" because of its being ignored by the West.

Upon President Donald Trump's November 2016 election victory, this report continues, Brennan Gilmore returned to the United States (in early December 2016) and became the Chief of Staff for his former Central African Republic boss Tom Perriello--who launched a bid to become the Democratic Party governor of Virginia, but who was defeated in a 13 June 2017 primary election.



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Important to note about Jason Kessler too, this report continues, is that with his experience as a former assignment editor for the anti-Trump "fake news" propaganda media organ CNN, he was well versed in how to create media spectacles such as would occur in Charlottesville on 12 August.

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Democratic Party activist turned "white supremacist" Jason Kessler leaving meeting held between him, Brennan Gilmore and Mayor Michael Signer on 11 August 2017

And as to who this planned media spectacle played out in Charlottesville on 12 August, this report details, proved a "grim success" as, firstly, Jason Kessler led his pro-fascist forces on a "Unite The Right" march--followed, secondly, by Mayor Michael Singer ordering his cities police forces to stand down and not interfere when these pro-fascist forces met their communist led counter demonstrator foes.

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With Jason Kessler and Mayor Michael Singer having "played their roles" in creating this media spectacle, this report says, third up was Brennan Gilmore--who "magically and mystically" was able to appear at the height of this created mob violence with a video camera in hand to record a pro-fascist supporter ramming his car into a crowd of communists agitators--with Brennan Gilmore, afterwards, being prominently interviewed by not only CNN, but every other anti-Trump "fake news" media outlet in America too--and whose statements were, obviously, pre-planned.

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Being lost to the American people about this Charlottesville media spectacle too, this report continues, is its being a mirror image to the events that took place in 2014 when the CIA overthrew the legitimately elected government in Ukraine (called "the most blatant coup in history")--even to the pro-fascist forces in both Ukraine and Charlottesville holding the same type of shields decorated by Nazi symbols of power.

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August 15, 2017 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

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There is no proof in that blame deflecting conspiracy theory alt-right narrative.
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thatonedude wrote:
> There is no proof in that blame deflecting conspiracy theory alt-right narrative.

Incorrect. We have the testimony of the officers that were policing the event that were told to bring the two sides together and then instructed by the Charlottesville mayor to stand down. They are livid right now. IF they are willing to work with the Department of Justice, and IF Trump has the balls to sick AG Sessions on the case, then yes, there is more then enough proof. This isn't a theory, it's all happening in plain view.
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That still proves nothing. Unless the driver of that car that plowed into the crowd claims someone connected to the left convinced him to commit an act of domestic terrorism, there are only theories to fit personal narratives.
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Davin. You are the new POG. Until POG returns.

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thatonedude
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Where is this testimony of the Charlottesville police? I see Kessler made a statement blaming police and local government officials for not doing enough.
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Karaiya wrote:
> Davin. You are the new POG. Until POG returns.


And in all honestly, I can say that you are just as racist if not more racist as any of the worst of the KKK. I've thought about this, yes it is a false equivalence to compare BLM to the KKK because right now, in 2017, BLM is a far more racist and violent organization. When was the last time the KKK killed anyone? 50 years ago or more? The BLM is rioting and killing cops now in 2017. So at least for the last 50 years, BLM is more racist and violent than the kkk. Just the facts. Sure if you go back 50 or a hundred years, the KKK was very active in lynching people 150 years ago, or a hundred years ago but now? Not at all. That's why youre mad, you the racist now.

thatonedude wrote:
> Where is this testimony of the Charlottesville police? I see Kessler made a statement
> blaming police and local government officials for not doing enough.

https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/poli...

A Charlottesville police officer has come forward to express his anger at being told to "stand down" by the city mayor during violent clashes between protestors. He also claims the protests, which pitched "white supremacists" against members of Antifa, were "set up" to further the agenda of the elites.

"We [Charlottesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren't allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren't even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away."
"The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it went like clockwork."

(Michael Signer), the mayor of Charlottesville, ordered police to stand down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests ~ despite police protests against the orders.
"We wanted to do our job and keep the peace. But these mothers in charge really want to destroy America."
Fox News reporter Doug McKelway was on the scene in Charlottesville and he backs up the police officer's claims.

"I can say, having been in Emancipation Park from early on that morning, that what I saw with my own two eyes confirms what this law enforcement source told us. At least from all visible appearances. We saw people coming out of that park who had head wounds, who were bleeding from the head, people walking into that park with bats, with sticks ~ you saw what they were wearing ~ helmets, body armor, they had come ~ and this pertains to both sides ~ they had come to do damage. You cannot help but notice from that video that police had been more pro-active, they could have potentially calmed this thing down to some degree."

Michael Signer is a Virginia Democratic activist with close ties to Barack Obama and John Podesta. Before landing the Charlottesville mayor job he previously worked closely with Podesta at the Center of American Progress and worked with him again on Barack Obama's State Department Transition Team.

The New World Order, led in the United States by elite operatives Obama, Podesta, Soros, Clinton and company, are pulling out all the stops to create division through chaos and destruction. Crowds of paid protestors and useful psychopaths are being sent into pitched battle against one another to sour the mood of the nation and further divide us all.
They are manipulating and controlling newsworthy events in order to maintain power and control over the public, and to swing public opinion.

Deep State Operatives

The man accused of being a neo-Nazi and murdering a woman by deliberately driving into her during protests in Charlottesville is in reality a supporter of Hillary Clinton and member of Antifa in receipt of funding by George Soros.

White supremacist and 'Unite the Right' leader, Jason Kessler, has been exposed as a supporter of former President Obama and a hardline member of far-left Occupy movement.

When did he change his political leaning? According to the Southern Poverty Law Center (an organization that is certainly no friend to Conservatives), Kessler revealed his political transformation around November 2016, the same month Donald Trump won the presidential election.

If you think that is suspicious, wait until you learn about the other actors in this enormous set-up event.

First Man on the Scene

Brennan Gilmore (AKA "The Convenient Witness") was "on the scene" and was the author of the first viral tweet about Charlottesville. He was later interviewed by MSNBC. He was presented as an accidental witness. But who is he really?

Gilmore worked in Africa as a State Department foreign officer under Hillary Clinton. The New York Times mentioned this "coincidence" ~ and then later deleted it. Brennan Gilmore was also involved with the Kony hoax in 2012, and he is currently Chief of Staff for Tom Perrielo, who is running for Governor of Virginia and received $380k from George Soros.

So the first man on the scene, whose tweet went viral, and who was later interviewed on mainstream news as a witness, just HAPPENED TO BE a State Department insider with a long history of involvement in psy-ops? If you think this isn't fishy, how about this ~ since the Charlottesville protests and his appearance in the media, his information was suddenly removed from State Department websites.

The elites know we are onto them, and they are trying to cover their tracks. They can censor Google and social media and close down accounts, but they will never be able to stop us sharing information and speaking to each other.A Charlottesville police officer has come forward to express his anger at being told to "stand down" by the city mayor during violent clashes between protestors. He also claims the protests, which pitched "white supremacists" against members of Antifa, were "set up" to further the agenda of the elites.

"We [Charlottesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren't allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren't even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away."
"The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it went like clockwork."

(Michael Signer), the mayor of Charlottesville, ordered police to stand down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests ~ despite police protests against the orders.
"We wanted to do our job and keep the peace. But these mother
s in charge really want to destroy America."
Fox News reporter Doug McKelway was on the scene in Charlottesville and he backs up the police officer's claims.

"I can say, having been in Emancipation Park from early on that morning, that what I saw with my own two eyes confirms what this law enforcement source told us. At least from all visible appearances. We saw people coming out of that park who had head wounds, who were bleeding from the head, people walking into that park with bats, with sticks ~ you saw what they were wearing ~ helmets, body armor, they had come ~ and this pertains to both sides ~ they had come to do damage. You cannot help but notice from that video that police had been more pro-active, they could have potentially calmed this thing down to some degree."

Michael Signer is a Virginia Democratic activist with close ties to Barack Obama and John Podesta. Before landing the Charlottesville mayor job he previously worked closely with Podesta at the Center of American Progress and worked with him again on Barack Obama's State Department Transition Team.

The New World Order, led in the United States by elite operatives Obama, Podesta, Soros, Clinton and company, are pulling out all the stops to create division through chaos and destruction. Crowds of paid protestors and useful psychopaths are being sent into pitched battle against one another to sour the mood of the nation and further divide us all.
They are manipulating and controlling newsworthy events in order to maintain power and control over the public, and to swing public opinion.

Deep State Operatives

The man accused of being a neo-Nazi and murdering a woman by deliberately driving into her during protests in Charlottesville is in reality a supporter of Hillary Clinton and member of Antifa in receipt of funding by George Soros.

White supremacist and 'Unite the Right' leader, Jason Kessler, has been exposed as a supporter of former President Obama and a hardline member of far-left Occupy movement.

When did he change his political leaning? According to the Southern Poverty Law Center (an organization that is certainly no friend to Conservatives), Kessler revealed his political transformation around November 2016, the same month Donald Trump won the presidential election.

If you think that is suspicious, wait until you learn about the other actors in this enormous set-up event.

First Man on the Scene

Brennan Gilmore (AKA "The Convenient Witness") was "on the scene" and was the author of the first viral tweet about Charlottesville. He was later interviewed by MSNBC. He was presented as an accidental witness. But who is he really?

Gilmore worked in Africa as a State Department foreign officer under Hillary Clinton. The New York Times mentioned this "coincidence" ~ and then later deleted it. Brennan Gilmore was also involved with the Kony hoax in 2012, and he is currently Chief of Staff for Tom Perrielo, who is running for Governor of Virginia and received $380k from George Soros.

So the first man on the scene, whose tweet went viral, and who was later interviewed on mainstream news as a witness, just HAPPENED TO BE a State Department insider with a long history of involvement in psy-ops? If you think this isn't fishy, how about this ~ since the Charlottesville protests and his appearance in the media, his information was suddenly removed from State Department websites.

The elites know we are onto them, and they are trying to cover their tracks. They can censor Google and social media and close down accounts, but they will never be able to stop us sharing information and speaking to each other.
thatonedude
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Dude, you got issues. Enjoy fantasy land.
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dracula wrote:
> Wall of text nobody read.


Awww...You must be so lonely.
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dracula wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> Davin. You are the new POG. Until POG returns.
>
>
> And in all honestly, I can say that you are just as racist if not more racist as
> any of the worst of the KKK. I've thought about this, yes it is a false equivalence
> to compare BLM to the KKK because right now, in 2017, BLM is a far more racist and
> violent organization. When was the last time the KKK killed anyone? 50 years ago
> or more? The BLM is rioting and killing cops now in 2017. So at least for the last
> 50 years, BLM is more racist and violent than the kkk. Just the facts. Sure if
> you go back 50 or a hundred years, the KKK was very active in lynching people 150
> years ago, or a hundred years ago but now? Not at all. That's why youre mad, you
> the racist now.
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None of what you just said whatsoever is true. Also, the KKK is not the only white supremacist group. BLM again, has never killed anyone. Nor has Antifa for that matter. EVER. In the history of the world.

Right wing extremist and white supremacists however, just this year have a rap sheet this long so here is a wall of text to match with yours with actual things that are true.
http://fozmeadows.tumblr.com/post/164164615366/you...


January 20, 2017: A right-wing extremist shoots a protestor at a Milo Yiannopoulos event at the University of Washington.

January 29, 2017: Alexandre Bissonnette walks into a mosque in Canada during evening prayers and opens fire, shooting 17 people and killing six of them.

January 2017: Over 40 Jewish centers in the U.S. receive bomb threats.

February 22, 2017: Adam Purinton tells two men from India to "get out of my country" then shoots both plus a bystander, killing one.

February 28, 2017: a mosque in Toronto is set on fire by arsonists.

March 12, 2017: a mosque in Ypsilanti, MI. is set on fire by arsonists.

March 20, 2017: James Jackson arrives in Manhattan with a sword and stabs the first black man he sees to death. He later tells authorities he "intended to kill as many black men as he could."

March 24, 2017: Yelling "I hate Muslims!" a man in Minneapolis stabbed a Somali man in an attempt to kill him.

March 26, 2017: A racist mob attacks a 15-year-old Polish boy in Gloucestershire and, when a local Asian shopkeeper tries to intervene, attack him as well with crowbars and baseball bats, then attempt to run him over with a car.

March 31, 2017: A 17-year-old Iranian/Kurdish boy is nearly beaten to death by a mob of eight people in Croydon after he revealed to them that he was a refugee.

April 6, 2017: A Charlotte store is set on fire by an arsonist who leaves a warning message for the shop owner that he "did not want any refugee business owners and that they would torture the owner if they did not leave and go back to where they came from," according to police. It was signed "White America."

MAY 5TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

April 30, 2017: A white man storms a pool party in San Diego and shoots four black women, two black men, and one Latino man while allowing white attendees to leave. One victim dies while the other six sustain critical injuries.


MAY 10TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

May 5, 2017: A man walking his dog on South Beach in Miami is confronted by two men who call him a "fudging ice cream man," then attack him, beating him unconscious. At one point in the attack, one of the attackers shouts "all ice cream mans need to die and we're going to make sure they do!"

MAY 18TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

May 14, 2017: Vandals spray-paint hate graffiti on the home of a black family in upstate New York before attempting to set the house on fire while the family slept. Although the family escaped unscathed, their garage burnt to the ground and their house suffered some damage.

May 17, 2017: A homophobic mob break into the home of a gay couple and shoot and stab both men to death.

MAY 23RD: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

May 20, 2017: University of Maryland student and member of the "alt-Reich" facebook group Sean Urbanski walks up to 22-year-old Richard Collins III, who is black and who Urbanski does not know, and stabs him to death in an unprovoked attack.

May 27th: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

May 24, 2017: A barrage of doxxing, rape threats, and death threats received by trans comic book artist Sophie Labelle forces her to cancel an appearance and event at a Halifax book store, which also received bomb threats and threats of attacking the event. Labelle is forced into hiding.

May 26, 2017: Three men intervene on a MAX train in Portland when they witness another man verbally abusing two Muslim women with an Islamophobic tirade. The Islamophobe responds by pulling out a knife and stabs the three interveners, killing two of them.

MAY 30th: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

May 27, 2017: A white man drives his pickup truck through a campsite, targeting the Native Americans camping there while yelling racial slurs at them. He intentionally drives over two Native American men, killing one and injuring the other.

June 3rd: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

March 3, 2017: A Sikh man is shot and injured in front of his Seattle house by a white man waring a mask, who yells at him to "go back to your country!"

May 27, 2017: A 34-year-old Anthony Hammond lets loose with a flurry of racial slurs directed at a black man in a parking lot, then pulls out a machete and stabs the man before barricading himself in his apartment for several hours, until finally surrendering to police.

JUNE 13th: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

January 1, 2017: 19-year-old Nathan Richardson encounters 67-year-old jogger Wenqing Xu and beats him to death in an unprovoked, random attack. After committing the murder, Richardson texted his friends that he "fudgeed sum chink up. Bodied him. I think pure crime scene -- his head's gone,"

JUNE 19TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

June 18, 2017: two men armed with baseball bats attack a group of Muslim teenagers, kidnapping a 17-year-old girl, who they beat to death, dumping her body in a pond.

June 1, 2017: A Princeton professor and racialized woman is forced to cancel a three-city lecture tour to promote her book about the Black Lives Matter movement after receiving over 50 death threats.

June 19, 2017: Shouting "I'm going to kill all Muslims!" 47-year-old Darren Osborne drives a courier van through a crowd of Muslims leaving a Finsbury mosque, killing one person and injuring ten others.

JULY 4TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

January 28, 2017: a First Nations woman walking with her sister is struck by a trailer hitch hurled from a passing vehicle. After struggling in hospital for several months, she succumbs to her injuries.

June 21, 2017: an Islamophobe approaches a Muslim man and woman sitting in a car stopped at a traffic light and knocks on the window. When the driver rolls down the window, the Islamophobe sprays the driver and passenger with acid, severely burning both.

JULY 16TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

February 21, 2017: a 24-year-old transgender woman is shot and killed in Chicago, IL.

February 26, 2017: a transgender woman is shot and killed in New Orleans, LA.

March 1, 2017: a transgender woman is stabbed to death in New Orleans, LA.

March 22, 2017: a 38-year-old transgender woman is shot and killed in Baltimore, MD.

April 21, 2017: a 28-year-old transgender woman is shot and killed in Miami, FL.

May 17, 2017: a 34-year-old transgender woman is shot and killed in Fresno, CA.

July 2, 2017: a 28-year-old transgender woman is shot and killed in Lynchburg, VA.

JULY 25TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:


June 3, 2017: 38-year-old white supremacist Phillip Wade racially abuses a 57-year-old black man on an Oakley, CA. bus, then pulls a knife and stabs the man to death while the man is walking away from the confrontation. The victim is the third racialized person Wade has stabbed in the past six years and the second person he's murdered.

July 16, 2017: A man attempts to pull the hijab off of a Muslim woman waiting for the tube in London, then hits her when she resists. He then pins her friend to the wall and spits in her face before leaving.

July 16, 2017: Arsonists set a mosque in Manchester ablaze.

July 18, 2017: A NASA researcher of South Asian descent has her car windshield shattered by a rock thrown through it by an assailant screaming "go back to your country!" She's injured in the attack.

AUGUST 2ND: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

July 19, 2017: Two men exit a car and attack a racialized pedestrian with their fists and an iron bar.

AUGUST 7TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

August 5, 2017: A mosque in Bloomington, Minnesota is firebombed, narrowly missing killing & injuring dozens of members there for morning prayers.

AUGUST 10TH: EDITED TO INCLUDE:

August 8, 2017: A well-known Chicago neo-nazi starts an altercation at a concert, then pulls out a smuggled knife and stabs a man and a woman at the show.

AUGUST 12TH: EDITED TO INCLUDED:

August 12, 2017: A white supremacist in Charlottesville, VA. drives his car at high speed directly into a crowd of anti-racist protestors, killing one woman and seriously injured 19 other people.


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Foxhack
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I've seen that post get floated around on Tumblr, you should add a source for it.

Also @dracula ... get some help.
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16-Aug(#70)
Foxhack wrote:
> I've seen that post get floated around on Tumblr, you should add a source for it.
>
> Also @dracula ... get some help.

Oh crap its not in there??


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thatonedude
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* 16-Aug(#71)
That officer stating 'We [Charlottesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together.'

Is likely no more than the police allowing two protest groups, that legally obtained permits, to assemble in their allocated space. The areas were not that far apart.
Foxhack
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16-Aug(#72)
I don't see a source, man. I dunno. Maybe the forum ate the link?
Karaiya
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* 16-Aug(#73)
Foxhack wrote:
> I don't see a source, man. I dunno. Maybe the forum ate the link?

No had to copy and paste the link.


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Karaiya
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16-Aug(#74)
Anyhow, lets not discuss BLM if we don't look at their website, read their manifesto and guiding principles. http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/
Everything else you say is just total bullcrap and we can't have a real conversation as to why you don't like them until you actually know about them.

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Karaiya
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16-Aug(#75)
"#BlackLivesMatter doesn't mean your life isn't important--it means that Black lives, which are seen as without value within White supremacy, are important to your liberation. Given the disproportionate impact state violence has on Black lives, we understand that when Black people in this country get free, the benefits will be wide reaching and transformative for society as a whole. When we are able to end hyper-criminalization and sexualization of Black people and end the poverty, control, and surveillance of Black people, every single person in this world has a better shot at getting and staying free. When Black people get free, everybody gets free. This is why we call on Black people and our allies to take up the call that Black lives matter. We're not saying Black lives are more important than other lives, or that other lives are not criminalized and oppressed in various ways. We remain in active solidarity with all oppressed people who are fighting for their liberation and we know that our destinies are intertwined."

http://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

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dracula
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16-Aug(#76)
Foxhack wrote:
> I don't see a source, man. I dunno. Maybe the forum ate the link?

Youre joking right, it's at the bottom and the top of the post, plenty of proof, but again, it boils down to whether or not the DOJ looks into it, the Charlottesville police will certainly help in going after Mayor Signer.

And Kara, none of that matters now: Trump just combined Antifa/BLM/Alt Left into one term: the alt left. Which is why I made the prediction, while we are already seeing some states like New Jersey put Antifa on the terrorist watch lists, BLM is next. You don't have to like it, but that is turning into reality

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* 16-Aug(#77)
dracula wrote:
> Foxhack wrote:
>> I don't see a source, man. I dunno. Maybe the forum ate the link?

I was talking about karaiya's post, not yours. There was no clickable link there earlier.
whitefire
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* 16-Aug(#78)
Some of this stuff reminds me of when people worry more about street crime than white collar crime just because it's more alluring.



Check out the steals thread (insane deals) https://gametz.com/?A=Forum&area=General_Marketpla...
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Gomez
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17-Aug(#79)
President really doubled down on being a peice of crap in that press conference huh.
MikeyWhoa
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17-Aug(#80)
whitefire wrote:
> Some of this stuff reminds me of when people worry more about street crime than white
> collar crime just because it's more alluring.
>
>


I concern myself with street crime more because street criminals actually face charges, are forced to take unfair deals, or are prosecuted. They are the ones who need help.

White collar criminals get bonuses. They won't face charges until they cost rich people money. And once they face charges, they get slapped on the wrist.





Cheese

Topic   Charlottesville Protests