Politics

Topic   The Politics Forum is Eating Itself

Noid
Gold Good Trader
11-Jul(#1)
"Prove me wrong, kids; prove me wrong." wink

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Osiris
300 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
11-Jul(#2)
How about a policy chat? Have seen beefs about freeloaders, what would you like to see as programs, if any? Specifics matter.

Welfare-direct payments, food stamps, housing subsidy,, etc

Should the US extend any or all of these to low/no income people?

If so, any time limit on those payments?

Any work requirement while receiving those funds?

If so, any funds/subsidies for child care while working?

Any education/training benefits for those on public assistance?
Dustin
GameTZ Subscriber 650 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Jul(#3)
Osiris wrote:
> How about a policy chat? Have seen beefs about freeloaders, what would you like
> to see as programs, if any? Specifics matter.
>
> Welfare-direct payments, food stamps, housing subsidy,, etc
>
> Should the US extend any or all of these to low/no income people?
>

Yes

> If so, any time limit on those payments?

Yes

>
> Any work requirement while receiving those funds?

No but proof of attempt should be necessary

>
> If so, any funds/subsidies for child care while working?

Yes

>
> Any education/training benefits for those on public assistance?

Yes if desired.

And also drug tests. Mandatory drug tests.
MikeyWhoa
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader
12-Jul(#4)
The meme thread was closed, so this is the random thread I chose to put this in.

There is a decent horror movie somewhere in this picture.

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$10 says he thought they were praying TO him.

yankees7448
Bronze Good Trader
* 13-Jul(#5)
Osiris wrote:
> How about a policy chat? Have seen beefs about freeloaders, what would you like
> to see as programs, if any? Specifics matter.


> Welfare-direct payments, food stamps, housing subsidy,, etc

Yes


> Should the US extend any or all of these to low/no income people?

Yes


> If so, any time limit on those payments?

Yes but there should be some consideration if the economy is particularly bad for a while such as resulted from the 2009 crisis.


> Any work requirement while receiving those funds?

If you're able bodied yes. But as someone who went through them I can say for certain that they suck balls. First of all, they are not helpful to people who have higher education as these programs are tailored to those with a high school diploma or less, felons etc. If you want to flip burgers, work security or as a cashier then its good. But the higher level jobs are pretty much non-existent. Secondly, some places are extremely lenient while others bust your balls. First place I went to basically allowed you to sit in a room while they read off a list of available jobs. Once they went through the list you were pretty much on your own. I would get in by 9am, listen to a bunch of minimum wage job offers I wasn't interested in and then go to the PC lab to apply to some good jobs online. After that I left.

The other place I went to was ridiculous. They kept busting my balls because I didn't go there in professional attire. The reasoning behind it was two-fold: A) in case they had an interview opportunity and needed you to go there immediately and B) because its supposed to be a work simulation. I never went dressed up because A) none of the jobs they had were interesting for me B) chances are any job I would be interested in wouldn't do on the spot interviews of random people C) I suck at interviews even when I have time to prepare and I am definately not going to get better just jumping in without preparation D). It was freezing cold outside (it was wintertime) for thin dressy clothes which required me to leave the house all bundled up. But then the office was stifling hot. I would be a hot sweaty mess and any business attire I would wear would be completely soaked through.

Then they would demand I would fulfill a combined 40 hours a week in between their program and any job/job simulated activities. The problems I had with this are numerous. First of all, there was f*ck all to do there all day. You would spend most of the morning waiting to be allowed to meet up with job developers. Because the jobs developers earned commissions based upon connecting people with jobs there was little to no coordination between developers. For that reason there was also a complete lack of a centralized location for all the jobs. You had to go to each person individually to find out what they had. It was a needlessly complicated and drawn out process designed specifically to ensure people spend as much time in the building as possible. Then when I eventually got a part time job with the Yankees without any help from the job center they would demand that I come in from 9-1 on days I worked to make sure I hit my hours. I refused to do so because I always got to my Yankees job by 4. Since the 2 locations where within 15 minutes from each other I would have had to putter around for a long time only to go to work and hope I get out by 10:30pm to repeat the same bullcrap all over again the next day. And for what, I think I got like $120 a month in food stamps (which I had to use on the sly since my family didn't want nor need it) and $189 a month in cash which was given out in bi-weekly installments but required me to withdraw from an ATM which charged fees.

In summation, we had two organizations that sucked. One was so crowded it didn't bother to really check in on its clients and the other obligated you to spend all day looking busy rather than engaging in meaningful job search/development. Neither was very helpful with getting a job and it was a lot of bull$hit over not a lot of benefits.

Oh the one job the second place connected me with was supposed to be a full time job starting at 32k a year with benefits. The company took 3 months from the interview to the job offer. Once they did make an offer it was for a 22 hour a week part time job (two 11 hour days) for about $2 an hour less than they advertised. I turned it down out of frustration and because with those two part time jobs I wouldn't have the time to continue searching for a full time job that offered benefits.




> If so, any funds/subsidies for child care while working?
Based upon need.


> Any education/training benefits for those on public assistance?

Yes but towards employable skills. No public money for underwater basket weaving.
POG
Gold Global Trader (8) Has Written 8 Reviews
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13-Jul(#6)
MikeyWhoa wrote:
> The meme thread was closed, so this is the random thread I chose to put this in.
>
> There is a decent horror movie somewhere in this picture.
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> {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/5W8skt5.jpg 275 300{imgt}
>
> $10 says he thought they were praying TO him.
>
>

Hahaha. Christians are so fudging weird.

Topic   The Politics Forum is Eating Itself