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Topic   Transgender folks in military is a problem?

Osiris
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24-Aug(#1)
Rand corp says $8.4M in additional med costs, Mattis said to be examining Deployability issues. Affects both current people (6400 active, 4100 reservists estimated) and new recruits going forward. Gender identity must be stable 18 months before enlistment.

Seems like a weird thing to be taking up attention in current environment.
dracula
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* 24-Aug(#2)
This is a very bold move by the Trump administration. It accomplishes a couple of things:

It forces Democrats to pivot and try to defend trannies in the upcoming elections instead of trying to campaign just on what they want. Now they are forced to double down on trying to defend the mentally ill trannies instead of just trying to campaign on what they want.

It gets trannies out of the military. You cannot be accepted into the military if you are diabetic and taking insulin, or if you are on anti depressants. The logic there is that if you are at war, and you can't get access to your medication, then you could become a liability. If you are undergoing gender reassignment surgery or are just taking testoserone or estrogen to prepare for it, and suddenly you are at war and don't have access to your medications, you could become a liability in battle.

The only reason why Obama started letting trannies in the military to begin with is because he was a total coward and refused to go against the party line that is in favor of all things lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender.

For the record, I'm fine with gays and lesbians in the military, but trannies have no place in the military for all the reasons above.
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I don't think the government, military should cover the hormones or surgery. Unless the person is genuinely born intersexed I feel like it's fine for them fight for the country but the country shouldn't pay for the reassignment. It's elective. On the same hand I also don't think the military should cover viagra. Basic fudging healthcare. Strepthroat get a throats culture, break ya foot wrap it in a cast. But no I shouldn't be able to sign up for the Air Force and get myself a brand new vagina on the khaki bewb. Tell me you were born in the wrong body all day and I'll be okay with whatever You tell me and whtever you want to do. But don't ask for my tax dollars to pay for it. That's nonsense.
Karaiya
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The military does not pay for Gender Reassignment surgery.
Osiris
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if you insist on presenting facts, we gonna bugaloo you azz out! Not a fair fight

is intersexed a term used now? very cool
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dracula wrote:
> This is a very bold move by the Trump administration.

It's literally the least surprising thing for a Republican politician to back this year, and it's Trump reneging on a campaign promise assertion/posturing to be supportive of LGBT community.

But, sure. Why not. Bold.
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He started out keeping these little baby promises and that got him all kinds of street credit inside his party and with his supporters. But now the cookie is crumbling he can't make good on his bigger promises, even his constituence inside the party aren't supporting him but his lemmings all keep telling us what a great job he's doing.
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immigration, Gorsuch and regulation adjustments aside, it will be interesting to see Trump base reaction to specific changes in tax policy designed by the Trump players currently working on it. That base seems to have faith in what is likely a trickle down approach.
dracula
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DiamondDave wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> This is a very bold move by the Trump administration.
>
> It's literally the least surprising thing for a Republican politician to back this
> year, and it's Trump reneging on a campaign promise assertion/posturing to be
> supportive of LGBT community.
>
> But, sure. Why not. Bold.

it is bold because the lesbian/gay/tranny community will no doubt go crazy playing the victim and crying in their safe spaces. The allies of the tranny community, including the mainstream media will continue spouting how trannies are being turned into second class citizens by Trump because they are not allowed to serve in the military(this argument doesn't really pass the bullcrap test because again, people who are diabetic or struggling with depression and on medication are not allowed to serve either, because they might be in a position where they don't have access to their medication. Same goes for trannies)

So yes, very bold indeed.
dracula
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Karaiya wrote:
> The military does not pay for Gender Reassignment surgery.

Not anymore :D
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dracula wrote:
> DiamondDave wrote:
>> dracula wrote:
> |>> This is a very bold move by the Trump administration.
>>
>> It's literally the least surprising thing for a Republican politician to back
> this
>> year, and it's Trump reneging on a campaign promise assertion/posturing to
> be
>> supportive of LGBT community.
>>
>> But, sure. Why not. Bold.
>
> it is bold because the lesbian/gay/tranny community will no doubt go crazy playing
> the victim and crying in their safe spaces

So, a community that's heavily crap on by ignoramuses getting crap on and 180'd by the POTUS is a bold move in your eyes? In verbage you'd understand and connect with that kinda seems like the class rep picking on the slow kid to me. Pretty petty, lowest common denominator crap. "It's not me, so I'm laughing" trash.

yes Super bold. I woulda stuck with the diabetic argument.
Karaiya
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25-Aug(#12)
dracula wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> The military does not pay for Gender Reassignment surgery.
>
> Not anymore :D
They never did you moron. Secondly, "tranny" is a derogatory term for trans sexuals. If you're going to be a bigot
Keep it 100. Say ice cream mans, dykes, and trannies you lazy fudging piece of crap.
dracula
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25-Aug(#13)
Picking on the slow kid? More like saying "hey if you have a medical condition that prevents you from functioning at a job if you can't get access to your medication(or in this case, estrogen/testoserone supplements) then you shouldn't be getting hired for that job, no different than anti depressants, or diabetics on insulin."

Under our last president, who was a total coward about these sorts of things and gave trannies a pass because he was just following the party line, our current president is incredibly bold.
Karaiya
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25-Aug(#14)
dracula wrote:
> Picking on the slow kid? More like saying "hey if you have a medical condition that
> prevents you from functioning at a job if you can't get access to your medication(or
> in this case, estrogen/testoserone supplements) then you shouldn't be getting hired
> for that job, no different than anti depressants, or diabetics on insulin."
>
> Under our last president, who was a total coward about these sorts of things and
> gave trannies a pass because he was just following the party line, our current president
> is incredibly bold.

None of this is true. Nothing you've ever said has ever been true Davin you fudging idiot.
dracula
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Karaiya wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> Karaiya wrote:
> |>> The military does not pay for Gender Reassignment surgery.
>>
>> Not anymore :D
> They never did you moron. Secondly, "tranny" is a derogatory term for trans sexuals.
> If you're going to be a bigot
> Keep it 100. Say ice cream mans, dykes, and trannies you lazy fudging piece of crap.

First off, trannies is the term that trannies use for each other. Secondly, I never have heard of any trannies doing anything worthwhile, it is always something like Bruce Jenner running someone over and killing them, and getting a slap on the wrist for being transgender and not having any consequence. In most cases it is just trannies trying to pass themselves off as women to have sex with heterosexual men. This type of behavior is just disgusting and it is the norm for tranny behavior. How can you even try to defend that sort of thing? You are the one being a piece of trash here, as usual, not me.

Kara, you are taking a vacation from reality as usual, and I am simply calling you out on it. It is what it is.
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dracula wrote:
> First off, trannies is the term that trannies use for each other

I'm assuming the N-word is officially good to go now, I'm excited

@Karaiya quit feeding him, his little tic-tac of a pecker might put some strain on his zipper with how hard this entire exchange has got him. Just move along
Karaiya
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* 25-Aug(#17)
Oh God what a fudging idiot. Take off your tin foil hat trans people have been serving in the military. Why don't you have common sense you hateful person? You mean "trans" Trannies is a term men like you use for Trans people Dennis.
Karaiya
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DiamondDave wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> First off, trannies is the term that trannies use for each other
>
> I'm assuming the N-word is officially good to go now, I'm excited
>
> @Karaiya quit feeding him, his little tic-tac of a pecker might put some strain on
> his zipper with how hard this entire exchange has got him. Just move along

I get it.
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25-Aug(#19)
Quite pathetic, but not surprising.

None of his points addressed, straight for the insults/outrage. Then written off like he is baiting or trolling. Perhaps one day we'll have a serious conversation here. Easy to see why other conservatives avoid engaging in this forum though. Nobody here has any interest in countering conservative views. Much easier to label and move on.
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He had a serious conversation that he threw out the window when he started off with the Safe Spaces [redacted] bullcrap and repeatedly used a word that Transexuals, in general, consider to be a slur against their nature. If you frame it like an butt-hole, you're going to be treated like you're an butt-hole.

My argument was "I don't see it as a bold move, I see it as partisan", which it arguably is since he campaigned on a platform inclusive of LGBT, not exclusive. Where Drac took it is his own fault. He could have made the argument that it was a smart move and followed up with the medical issues that being on hormone treatments uniquely present, similar to other medical situations that aren't typically approved for armed forces recruits (bold still would have been a strong word imo), but, well, you saw how he chose to act.

There's certainly elements on both sides of the political spectrum in Politics that could use a few lessons on how to communicate without being crapheads if serious discussion is an actual goal. I think Drac just wanted to stir crap up, and if you look critically at his posts I think you'll agree. You've gotta wade through a whole lot of edgelord drippy dick garbage to get to what is ACTUALLY being attempted to be communicated, and most people don't have the patience to finger these turds apart to find a nickel.
Osiris
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* 25-Aug(#21)
i am interested in how quickly Mattis can clarify the "deployability" questions, and what he determines are the practicality and actual conditions for those serving
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ninesalone wrote:
> Quite pathetic, but not surprising.
>
> None of his points addressed, straight for the insults/outrage. Then written off
> like he is baiting or trolling. Perhaps one day we'll have a serious conversation
> here. Easy to see why other conservatives avoid engaging in this forum though. Nobody
> here has any interest in countering conservative views. Much easier to label and
> move on.

He started his conversation with slurs and celebrating transgender people that are serving being kicked out Nines. And none of his points were facts. It was just bullcrap similar to yours but less condescending.

Secondly, fudge you too.
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25-Aug(#23)
I didn't know the term tranny was derogatory. Learn something new every day.
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Dustin wrote:
> I didn't know the term tranny was derogatory. Learn something new every day.

It isn't.
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ninesalone wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> I didn't know the term tranny was derogatory. Learn something new every day.
>
> It isn't.

To you. I don't have a dog in this race but when a group of people come together and change the nomenclature about how they'd like to be refereed to, it costs the rest of us very little if anything to play along.
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Prime wrote:
> ninesalone wrote:
>> Dustin wrote:
> |>> I didn't know the term tranny was derogatory. Learn something new every day.
>>
>> It isn't.
>
> To you. I don't have a dog in this race but when a group of people come together
> and change the nomenclature about how they'd like to be refereed to, it costs the
> rest of us very little if anything to play along.

Slippery slope. Already laws in some countries that you have to use their preferred "pronouns" or be fined. A group of mentally ill people don't get change the nomenclature because they're offended. We should just call it what it really is, "gender dysphoria."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgQy70_LPS4
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I'm not down with fines. People have a right not to be oppressed or treated less than but no one has a right to not have their feelings hurt.
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What's also being glossed over here, transgenders, or trannies, or whatever, *are* the bullies now, they are trying to pretend to be the victims and claim victim status but it is another over reach. (I'm mostly talking about the ones that try to trick straight men into having sex with them.) To stay on topic, why should they get special rights that no one else gets(if you are on medication and you aren't transgender, you can't serve in the military, if you are transgender, and transitioning and on medication, you should not be able to serve, and now, finally you can't. You should not have the government paying for your sex change.)

Another point people are missing: if you were a tranny in the military, you can still serve if you go back to calling yourself gay or lesbian and are not transitioning. Do your transition after you are done serving on your own dime.

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Prime wrote:
> I'm not down with fines. People have a right not to be oppressed or treated less
> than but no one has a right to not have their feelings hurt.

Yes, I agree.

Actually had people on here arguing that being offended = oppression not too long ago. Nutty.
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25-Aug(#30)
No that's a major misconception about how the first amendment actually works. You may not threaten violence. But simply saying ugly words is protected speech. Now I think it's a slippery slope guy I'm okay with certain truely hateful words being off limits. One in particular because of its historical context. I'm personally against the N word because it represents much more than hurt feelings. You can't argue against that. But nobody has a fundamental right not to have their feelings hurt. People forget that the first amendment means having to stomach thoughts, idea, words and expressions that they don't like. That's part of the deal. You don't silence those you oppose by silencing them. That's not how it works.

dracula
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There may be hope for you yet prime. The left prides itself on needing a safe space for when something happens they don't like. A lot of college students said they couldn't cope with going to class and demanded a safe space to cry when Trump won last November. This is just how the left operates now.

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You guys can't keep pigeon holing the left though. Most of us (I'm more of a social liberal and libertarian) but most of us on the left are middle of the road people. You guys focus on these neo-intolorant youth that have become the face of democrats but don't represent us. I don't like conservatives who think they have the right to govern women's bodies, who think selling a gay guy a cake goes against god and that type of thing but these safe space pussies aren't much further down my I'd like to kick their ass list.

I'm 35. So I grew up before a lot of this social progress was made. I remember what the racial climate was, what it was like for minorities and liberals back then had balls. They'd take your best shot and fire off some shots of their own and people had to listen because what was being spoken had validity.

These mostly college kids and millennials who have been lead to believe they're special just cause they think so have no idea what the first amendment really means and I'm honesty tired of being lumped in with them.
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It's definitely an interesting commentary on society when men used to wear dresses to get out of the military.

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Prime wrote:
> You guys can't keep pigeon holing the left though. Most of us (I'm more of a social
> liberal and libertarian) but most of us on the left are middle of the road people.


Not just liberals, conservatives are too. Most people. I'd even call myself a classical liberal.

> You guys focus on these neo-intolorant youth that have become the face of democrats
> but don't represent us.

They are the loudest. The extremes are always boosted as "the face" as you say by their political opponent. They certainly don't represent you. You value free speech and don't engage in this weaponized identity politics. You're also willing to have a conversation, while they refuse to engage.


> These mostly college kids and millennials who have been lead to believe they're special
> just cause they think so have no idea what the first amendment really means and I'm
> honesty tired of being lumped in with them.

I hear you. I'm tired of being lumped in with the fringes on the right (KKK, Neo-Nazis).

I wouldn't be rude to a trans person for being trans and I think adults should be able to do whatever they want to their own bodies. I still think it's a mental problem. The science generally backs that up. I think they are being used as political pawns.
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I kind of agree. Not necessarily that it's a mental problem like let's say schizophrenia is but there is definitely emotional issues at play. When people are born intersexed I don't feel that way. But I have trouble genuinely believing you were "born in the wrong body" if you want to take advantage of the science and change your gender that's fine by me. I think you can and should if you want, just spare me the backstory. If you weren't born with any female reproductive organs do me a favor and stop acting like what your doing isn't a choice.

Like gay guys get boners about dudes. That happens on its own, it occurs naturally in almost all of the animal kingdom that's not a choice. Chopping off your cock and balls and constructing a man made vagina is a choice.

A choice I believe people should be able to make. And if they want to fight for equality (as they aren't going to start from the same point let's say you and I would start with)that's fine too. But sometimes it looks like they want more than equality, they want special treatment. Equality good, special privileges, bullcrap.

I self identify as a feminist. However a large percentage of feminists are full of crap. They aren't looking for equality they want to cherry pick the good crap. Cant have it both ways. Equality and equal footing means that you enjoy all the benefits and accept the pitfalls.

We're getting (I'm getting) a little off topic. But you guys get the idea.
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ninesalone wrote:
> Prime wrote:
>> You guys can't keep pigeon holing the left though. Most of us (I'm more of a social
>> liberal and libertarian) but most of us on the left are middle of the road people.
>
>
> Not just liberals, conservatives are too. Most people. I'd even call myself a
> classical liberal.
>
>> You guys focus on these neo-intolorant youth that have become the face of democrats
>> but don't represent us.
>
> They are the loudest. The extremes are always boosted as "the face" as you say by
> their political opponent. They certainly don't represent you. You value free speech
> and don't engage in this weaponized identity politics. You're also willing to have
> a conversation, while they refuse to engage.
>
>
>> These mostly college kids and millennials who have been lead to believe they're
> special
>> just cause they think so have no idea what the first amendment really means and
> I'm
>> honesty tired of being lumped in with them.
>
>
>
> I wouldn't be rude to a trans person for being trans and I think adults should be
> able to do whatever they want to their own bodies. I still think it's a mental problem.
> The science generally backs that up. I think they are being used as political pawns.

I wouldn't be rude to a trans person for being trans, but they are trying to pass themself off as a woman when they aren't, well, yeah.

(it's a scene from crocadile dundee when he encounters a tranny, and it's getting to the point where if you are going out at night, you might have to make the crotch grab part of your game before going home with a girl to make sure she is indeed a girl, that is how commonplace it is becoming for trannies to try to pass themself off as women)

https://youtu.be/n6fgPX3NjyA

> I hear you. I'm tired of being lumped in with the fringes on the right (KKK, Neo-Nazis).

If you've been paying attention at all, you know that the KKK and Neo Nazis are now the fringes of the left, or to be more accurate, they are hiring background actors to pretend to be political protesters and not actual members of the KKK/neo nazis. This is happening(again, mostly Soros money paying for all of it.)

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> I wouldn't be rude to a trans person for being trans, but they are trying to pass
> themself off as a woman when they aren't, well, yeah.

If that's the case, that's deceiving someone and isn't right.

> If you've been paying attention at all, you know that the KKK and Neo Nazis are now
> the fringes of the left, or to be more accurate, they are hiring background actors
> to pretend to be political protesters and not actual members of the KKK/neo nazis.
> This is happening(again, mostly Soros money paying for all of it.)

A bit off topic, but I'm not convinced of this. What I am convinced of is the groups on the right that were at Charlottesville were mostly white Identitarian groups that have gained popularity in response to anti-white bias and groups like BLM. Racist? Yes. Violent? No. The people carrying Nazi flags and such were like 5% of the group that was there. The same goes for Antifa and violent leftist groups there that showed up with bats and bags of urine/feces. The news spotlights of course the right wing extremists. This is the most comprehensive video I've seen on Charlottesville.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwSYhTWk6E8
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ninesalone wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> I didn't know the term tranny was derogatory. Learn something new every day.
>
> It isn't.

I'm assuming the only reason you're saying that is because you're transexual and you don't feel offended by the word. Otherwise you don't know what the fudge you're talking about. Correct?

It's not a term transexuals came up with, it's a term people talking about transexuals came up with. You chop up the actual term and end a "y" at the end. It'd be like turning "black" into "blackey" or "white" into "whitey". It's not a positive term, and drac knows it. It's why he used it umpteen times in a row in the middle of his 4chan tirade.

For the record, I find the thought of Drac or Nines getting an unwanted hard-on from a transexual woman (and thus using this "theoretical" as a political moral goalpost) absolutely fudging hilarious, so even though it's not my cup of tea, they get my thumbs-up. Like, that's your fear, that's where all this distrust and anger comes from, the thought that you might slip into bed with a woman who used to be a man, so break them down with words and policy? Absolute top kek. I love the TV and movie-based transexual references when talking about them, by the way, definitely not out of touch!

What would you do if it happened, Drac? Would you go all Ace Ventura, or would you get your rope and chair and write your Dear Sally letter? Or would you walk into a LGBT club and shoot up the place Jesus Jihad-style? How, in reality, do you deal with things you can't fathom? Let's have a real fudging discussion instead of this boring-ass crap where you're calling towing the party line and going back on your word bold. Talking about crap you have no experience with, haven't ever befriended, had a real discussion with, connected with and learned from in a non-selfish way (i.e. not Googling stats and lines to verbally break down and disenfranchise complete strangers), you can see why to the casual observer anyone not in your echo chamber of naivete might find this a dull merry-go-round.

"It's the deception." Give me a fudging break, you gonna rake a Mime over the coals because you KNOW he can talk? rolls eyes

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> no one has a right to not have their feelings hurt.

No, but being kind to people and avoiding language and labels that may be hurtful to others when it serves no purpose is the right thing to do. That's strength, not weakness.

The Golden Rule is pretty good.
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Y'all act like trans women are out there trying to seduce you left and right and then surprise you with a penis in bed. Most trans people struggle with relationships and tread on this ground VERY lightly because they tend to get violently beat or killed if they were to aggressively (or even calmly) come out to someone they were interested in.

I mean, if there are trans women out there trying to "trick" heterosexual men, they are in the extreme minority. You can't try to differentiate yourself from the neo Nazi alt right group by saying "I'm not one of THOSE white people" while simultaneously assuming all trans women are trying to dick you down. It's an inherently flawed argument.
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Yuh!
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theyrhere wrote:
> Y'all act like trans women are out there trying to seduce you left and right and
> then surprise you with a penis in bed.

Not once did I say anything like this. I said they are mentally ill. IF they are trying to deceive that is a different story.


> Most trans people struggle with relationships
> and tread on this ground VERY lightly because they tend to get violently beat or
> killed if they were to aggressively (or even calmly) come out to someone they were
> interested in.

"Aggressively beat or killed." And we're the ones out of touch? They are paraded all over the media as if they are heroes.

> I mean, if there are trans women out there trying to "trick" heterosexual men, they
> are in the extreme minority.

Yes, probably the case. As I said, if that happens... It's deception.

>You can't try to differentiate yourself from the neo
> Nazi alt right group by saying "I'm not one of THOSE white people" while simultaneously
> assuming all trans women are trying to dick you down. It's an inherently flawed argument.

This is a flawed argument ironically. You're also strawmanning almost everything that was said (like Dave) Trans people are NOT a race. I think you and others are just interested in jumping to these words that label conservatives as bigots rather than talk about the actual issue. It's gender dysphoria. Simple. I do NOT fear, nor am angered, by trannies. They need psychological help and the fact they are being used like political pawns is pretty sad.
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I got tricked by a trans person once. Worst sex of my life.
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Osiris wrote:
> Rand corp says $8.4M in additional med costs, Mattis said to be examining Deployability
> issues. Affects both current people (6400 active, 4100 reservists estimated) and
> new recruits going forward. Gender identity must be stable 18 months before enlistment.
>
> Seems like a weird thing to be taking up attention in current environment.
Master_Z
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26-Aug(#46)
If the government wants to do this sort of crap, then these same individuals who were denied shouldn't have to register for selective service or be drafted period in the event of a war. Can't have your conservative cake both ways.
dracula
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26-Aug(#47)
DiamondDave wrote:
> ninesalone wrote:
>> Dustin wrote:
> |>> I didn't know the term tranny was derogatory. Learn something new every day.
>>
>> It isn't.
>
> I'm assuming the only reason you're saying that is because you're transexual and
> you don't feel offended by the word. Otherwise you don't know what the fudge you're
> talking about. Correct?
>
> It's not a term transexuals came up with, it's a term people talking about transexuals
> came up with. You chop up the actual term and end a "y" at the end. It'd be like
> turning "black" into "blackey" or "white" into "whitey". It's not a positive term,
> and drac knows it. It's why he used it umpteen times in a row in the middle of his
> 4chan tirade.
>
> For the record, I find the thought of Drac or Nines getting an unwanted hard-on from
> a transexual woman (and thus using this "theoretical" as a political moral goalpost)
> absolutely fudging hilarious, so even though it's not my cup of tea, they get my
> thumbs-up. Like, that's your fear, that's where all this distrust and anger
> comes from, the thought that you might slip into bed with a woman who used to be
> a man, so break them down with words and policy? Absolute top kek. I love the TV
> and movie-based transexual references when talking about them, by the way, definitely
> not out of touch!
>
> What would you do if it happened, Drac? Would you go all Ace Ventura, or would you
> get your rope and chair and write your Dear Sally letter? Or would you walk into
> a LGBT club and shoot up the place Jesus Jihad-style? How, in reality, do you
> deal with things you can't fathom? Let's have a real fudging discussion instead
> of this boring-ass crap where you're calling towing the party line and going back
> on your word bold. Talking about crap you have no experience with, haven't ever
> befriended, had a real discussion with, connected with and learned from in a
> non-selfish way (i.e. not Googling stats and lines to verbally break down and disenfranchise
> complete strangers), you can see why to the casual observer anyone not in your echo
> chamber of naivete might find this a dull merry-go-round.
>
> "It's the deception." Give me a fudging break, you gonna rake a Mime over the coals
> because you KNOW he can talk? rolls eyes


I'd probably talk them into ending their life. Most trannies do that anyways.



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DiamondDave
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26-Aug(#48)
Such a fudging edge lord. rolls eyes
dracula
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26-Aug(#49)
All trannies are mentally ill, it is a mental illness, to suggest they are some sort of brave hero for being a sick fudge is a joke. On some level, even you probably understand this dave.

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"I was wondering what Blockbuster pays to begin, such as $6/7 a hour? And do they hire offen, or is it a prized job that is rarely gived up?"
ninesalone
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26-Aug(#50)
dracula wrote:

> I'd probably talk them into ending their life. Most trannies do that anyways.

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dracula
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26-Aug(#51)
To be honest, I'm not sure what I would do. Most of the ones in the USA are easy to spot. The asian trannies like in Thailand or the Philipines are much harder to spot, asian men, especially in southeast asia, have softer facial features, which makes it more difficult.

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Abeyta wrote
"I was wondering what Blockbuster pays to begin, such as $6/7 a hour? And do they hire offen, or is it a prized job that is rarely gived up?"
Grenadier
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30-Aug(#52)
dracula wrote:
> All trannies are mentally ill, it is a mental illness,

Yes, gender dysphoria is technically a psychiatric diagnosis. Treatment includes psychotherapy, and then hormone therapy and surgery if the psychotherapy proves to not be helpful. So basically, you're slamming them as "ill" but you just don't like the treatment.

The mythical hordes of transgender women waiting to "get" dracula in a bar is a bogus strawman. Current stats in for the US put them as 0.5% of the population. I'm willing to bet there are much higher numbers in say NYC or San Francisco, meaning the rest of the country has a far lower incidence. Tell us: has this actually ever been a problem for you, or are you just making up more nonsense?

As for the repetitive use of "tranny", please stop with what you clearly know is a derogatory term. We don't tolerate the n-word or other racially slurs here, and this one is pushing towards that territory.
dracula
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* 30-Aug(#53)
Grenadier wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> All trannies are mentally ill, it is a mental illness,
>
> Yes, gender dysphoria is technically a psychiatric diagnosis. Treatment includes
> psychotherapy, and then hormone therapy and surgery if the psychotherapy proves to
> not be helpful. So basically, you're slamming them as "ill" but you just don't like
> the treatment.
>
> The mythical hordes of transgender women waiting to "get" dracula in a bar is a bogus
> strawman. Current stats in for the US put them as 0.5% of the population. I'm willing
> to bet there are much higher numbers in say NYC or San Francisco, meaning the rest
> of the country has a far lower incidence. Tell us: has this actually ever been a
> problem for you, or are you just making up more nonsense?

In a word: yes, both in bars in Los Angeles and new york, but even more so using online dating apps such as okcupid and the like. The good news is that most of them are easy to spot. Trannies or crossdressers or transgender men(men pretending to be women, who list themselves as women) have completely overrun online dating apps. I haven't met up with any of them in real life, could usually tell something was off on the phone, if it went that far. usually they just don't put up pictures that include their faces but their voice is way too low to be a womans.

Do you want pictures?

>
> As for the repetitive use of "tranny", please stop with what you clearly know is
> a derogatory term. We don't tolerate the n-word or other racially slurs here, and
> this one is pushing towards that territory.

You have to be kidding me. Transgenders aren't a race, or even a gay/lesbian group, as you just said, they are people who are mentally ill, they don't deserve special rights, or your outrage. But whatever.

They are a bunch of sick fudges. They aren't ever doing anything productive, aside from killing themselves. Most either kill themselves, or just go back to being gay men(or lesbian women) as they age. You notice that you never see an older transgender person for that reason, other than caitlyn Jenner I guess.

Edit, I'll put it to you another way: if you are out at a bar and you have a gay man hitting on you, "hey want to make out" or whatever, and I say "I'm straight, you're barking up the wrong tree", they will leave me alone. A tranny will just keep going and not leave you alone. I have nothing against lesbian and gays, but transgenders are the worst sort of bullies. Stop defending the bullies.

Abeyta wrote
"I was wondering what Blockbuster pays to begin, such as $6/7 a hour? And do they hire offen, or is it a prized job that is rarely gived up?"
DiamondDave
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31-Aug(#54)
dracula wrote:
>They aren't ever doing anything productive

You both seem to have so much in common, I honestly don't understand the vitriol
Karaiya
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31-Aug(#55)
Yeah, I don't get it either. You have a real hateful laser focus on the trans community. Whats the deal, some beautiful femme slip her cock in your mouth and not call you the next morning?
dracula
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2-Sep(#56)
Kara/dave you aren't even that good at trolling. Compared to say, dlf you get a 2/10


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Karaiya
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* 2-Sep(#57)
Theyre all beautiful.
Dustin
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2-Sep(#58)
Fudge that quiz. I would totally bang some of those chicks, provided they didn't have dicks.
dracula
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3-Sep(#59)
^^ You're both more gay than a ice cream man wrapped in a 3 dollar bill
DiamondDave
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3-Sep(#60)
dracula wrote:
> ^^ You're both more gay than a ice cream man wrapped in a 3 dollar bill

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Dustin
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3-Sep(#61)
dracula wrote:
> ^^ You're both more gay than a ice cream man wrapped in a 3 dollar bill

Wut
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3-Sep(#62)
Trying to make sense of anything dracula says gives me a headache.
Missile
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3-Sep(#63)
I think he meant to say QUEER, not gay.
DiamondDave
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3-Sep(#64)
I think he meant to throw out his mouse and keyboard and do something with his life
Karaiya
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3-Sep(#65)
I am gay.
Dustin
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3-Sep(#66)
Karaiya wrote:
> I am gay.

Yeah but are you more gay than a ice cream man wrapped in a 3 dollar bill? That is the new standard, or so I'm told.
dracula
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3-Sep(#67)
Karaiya wrote:
> I am gay.

Honestly, I figured you were probably a tranny
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* 3-Sep(#68)
dracula wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> I am gay.
>
> Honestly, I figured you were probably a tranny

Quit being such a flaming ice cream man, Drac.

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