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bill
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* 8-Feb-2018(#1)
My Apple Developer Program Membership is due to expire on Feb 24 or so.

I needed it to release the GTZ app for ios last year.

I haven't updated the app in months (it seems fine/stable, no plans to work on it more at this point).
There aren't that many people using it.

I'm not sure it's worth the $99/year for the Apple dev membership.

If I don't renew, the app will still work for people who have it installed. But, I think it will get removed from the itunes store.

I don't think the Android store is like this. I think Android had a one time $25 developer fee, so it's all set.

I could just pay it and shut up, but I'm cheap and it annoys me that Apple wants this money every year.

Opinions?
tonymack21
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8-Feb-2018(#2)
every year? that's evil. doesn't seem worth it. I have it but I still usually just use chrome.

Grenadier
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8-Feb-2018(#3)
See, we told you doing the app wasn't worth it. smile
Dasgessabel
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9-Feb-2018(#4)
I haven't ever used the app, personally, and I'm iOS. Unless you have a huge subset of people with pitchforks (which I doubt you would), I say let it go. I may go download it just to have it before it goes away though.
bill
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9-Feb-2018(#5)
Yeah, grab it now if you have any interest. It's free!

I think the main thing it's good for is native notifications on your phone for GTZ stuff...
John
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* 10-Feb-2018(#6)
Indeed. I'm not a big fan of the Android app -- I prefer desktop or even Mobile. But it is very nice for quick notifications. yes

EDIT: Not because there is anything wrong with the app! I just mean that in general for MOST apps. yes
Lunar
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10-Feb-2018(#7)
Do we really need an app?

tonymack21
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* 10-Feb-2018(#8)
i think with the very well functioning mobile site the loss of the app wouldnt be as big a thing as having to pay a hundo a year to keep it listed.

i use old layout even on mobile lol. but for those that want a mobile phone solution. ive never had an iphone til last week when work gave us one for work email etc, we always had android or blackberry before, but i downloaded the app and its nice, but nothing id want bill to have to shell a hundred a year for if that cost is all on him


Lunar
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10-Feb-2018(#9)
tonymack21 wrote:
> i use old layout even on mobile lol.
>

I think it's because we are old.

tonymack21
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10-Feb-2018(#10)
Lunar wrote:
> tonymack21 wrote:
>> i use old layout even on mobile lol.
>>
>
> I think it's because we are old.
>
>

its def because we are old. i miss the internet in general looking this way. i thought it was cleaner and easier to navigate. but again, old lol


bill
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* 10-Feb-2018(#11)
I have no regrets doing the app. It was an interesting experience and decent bucket list item ("I made an app!" - put that on my tombstone and smoke it). I don't think it ever made much business sense to do it, but that's basically true for GTZ in general (the whole thing has been a terrible business idea... but it has been fun!) Such is life.
Gypsy
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10-Feb-2018(#12)
tonymack21 wrote:
> i think with the very well functioning mobile site the loss of the app wouldnt be
> as big a thing as having to pay a hundo a year to keep it listed.
>
> i use old layout even on mobile lol. but for those that want a mobile phone solution.
> ive never had an iphone til last week when work gave us one for work email etc,
> we always had android or blackberry before, but i downloaded the app and its nice,
> but nothing id want bill to have to shell a hundred a year for if that cost is all
> on him
>
>
>

How? My phone always defaults to the mobile site. I'm a phone noob though. image
tonymack21
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10-Feb-2018(#13)
thats good, it is pretty cool, i just hate the thought of you having to pay a hundred bucks a year for it

tonymack21
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10-Feb-2018(#14)
Gypsy wrote:
> tonymack21 wrote:
>> i think with the very well functioning mobile site the loss of the app wouldnt
> be
>> as big a thing as having to pay a hundo a year to keep it listed.
>>
>> i use old layout even on mobile lol. but for those that want a mobile phone solution.
>> ive never had an iphone til last week when work gave us one for work email etc,
>> we always had android or blackberry before, but i downloaded the app and its nice,
>> but nothing id want bill to have to shell a hundred a year for if that cost is
> all
>> on him
>>
>>
>>
>
> How? My phone always defaults to the mobile site. I'm a phone noob though. {imgt}http://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vidya/images/e/... 200 200{imgt}




just hit the settings gear thing in the top right and select non mobile site. old layout bill marrs style goodness :D
(not that i dont appreciate all the hard work done on the new layout and mobile sites)


Gypsy
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10-Feb-2018(#15)
@tonymack21 thanks man.
tonymack21
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10-Feb-2018(#16)
Gypsy wrote:
> @tonymack21 thanks man.

cool grin

SirConnery
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12-Feb-2018(#17)
Good thing I saw this, I quick downloaded it on my other iOS devices. It's great for message notifications, especially when I go to Midwest Gaming Classic each year. I field messages via tapatalk for CAG and the app for here.

Bill, you could try filing a program fee waiver. Technically it's supposed to only happen for government, non-profits and education but I've heard of people still getting their fees waived in some isolated cases by vowing not to submit apps for monetary gain. It sometimes helps to show proof in the waiver form that the app is also in the google play store as competition.

bill
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* 12-Feb-2018(#19)
I got "Sorry, you can't enroll at this time. Your Apple ID is already associated with a Team Agent enrolled in this program." when I clicked the enroll link.

From reading it, it doesn't sound like I fit the description, as you said. Even if I squeaked by, I'd worry that associating my personal apple id with this would get me into trouble later.

Thanks though


I actually suspect if you had ever downloaded the app, you may be able to get it again later, even if it's not in the store anymore. Like, it ends up in your "purchased" list. I think I did this for some drawing app my wife had gotten years ago. We couldn't find it in the store, but I got it off our "friends and family" app sharing purchased thingy screen.

SirConnery
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12-Feb-2018(#20)
Possibly but the next time it needs a update for an os release it would get pulled.
Boss
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14-Feb-2018(#21)
Let it expire, mobile site is sufficient.
Admiral
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16-Feb-2018(#22)
I still use the regular site on my Android phone. Good old white and blue with tons of tiny links...
Lunar
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16-Feb-2018(#23)
White and blue? wince

Everyone knows real GTZ looks like Frosty Penguin

Boss
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16-Feb-2018(#24)
My theme is set as My Own - i dont remember when I created it but I am so used to it. It's the default in my eyes.
Lunar
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16-Feb-2018(#25)
Its probably Frosty Penguin, I used to think it was my own "creation"

Boss
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16-Feb-2018(#26)
I remember you used to be able to pick the style of others by selecting their username. I dont want to select Frosty to see what it looks like cause I dont want to lose the custom one I have now.
Lunar
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16-Feb-2018(#27)
Screenshot?

tonymack21
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16-Feb-2018(#28)
Boss wrote:
> I remember you used to be able to pick the style of others by selecting their username.
> I dont want to select Frosty to see what it looks like cause I dont want to lose
> the custom one I have now.


The custom users theme option is still there ? On old layout anyway


Boss
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16-Feb-2018(#29)
Can't screen, I'm at work.

I am on old layout, I see custom as an option but I dont see the usernames for other users to pick their themes.
bill
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16-Feb-2018(#30)
You can do it from the "Color Scheme" page: https://gametz.com/ColorScheme.html

You can load other people's colors from here and get a preview (on the right). Just don't click the "Use This Color Scheme" button, because that will overwrite your own colors.
Boss
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16-Feb-2018(#31)
Nice.

Lunar, try mine on classic layout and see if its the same as that ice one.
Lunar
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* 16-Feb-2018(#32)
Boss wrote:
> Nice.
>
> Lunar, try mine on classic layout and see if its the same as that ice one.

Loaded yours, it's very similar to Frosty Penguin. Your trade page and forum backgrounds are white and grayish color though, where as the default of FP is two different shades of low tone blue(easier on the eyes)

Also clicked links look brighter than I am used to.

Boss's Theme
image

Frosty Penguin
image


Boss
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16-Feb-2018(#33)
So I am not a frosty penguin frown
tonymack21
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* 16-Feb-2018(#34)
bucky ohare, nice, id love a new bucky game like mass effect, but with bucky ohare. it would be huge

Lunar
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16-Feb-2018(#35)
Boss wrote:
> So I am not a frosty penguin frown
>

You're a Artic Penguin, I hear they are very loyal mates.

Lunar
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16-Feb-2018(#36)
tonymack21 wrote:
> bucky ohare, nice, id love a new bucky game like mass effect, but with bucky ohare.
> it would be huge
>

Oh man this is such a nice tangent, I'm gonna make a thread!

tonymack21
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16-Feb-2018(#37)
lol ya i saw one of the browser tabs on your screen cap lol

Lunar
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16-Feb-2018(#38)
tonymack21 wrote:
> lol ya i saw one of the browser tabs on your screen cap lol
>

The inception of this topic is so incidental(like prob 1 in 100,000 chance). I was looking up good graphic sprites on the NES to convince @Gypsy that NES has pretty graphics

tonymack21
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16-Feb-2018(#39)
like compared to other 8 bit machines?

Osiris
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17-Feb-2018(#40)
i do love the app, use it majority of time, shall we subscribe or make donation specifically for the apple fee support continuance?
bill
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17-Feb-2018(#41)
nah
John
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17-Feb-2018(#42)
And, again, his app should keep working, right? So, shouldn't be a big deal. yes
Osiris
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17-Feb-2018(#43)
new users wouldnt be able to get it though, or yes ?
tonymack21
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* 17-Feb-2018(#44)
the next time the store updated it would likely go off the store, but you wont lose it if you have it

bill
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* 17-Feb-2018(#45)
I don't have much evidence that new users have used the app. Only a handful of people have used the apps at all, most are regular long-time users as far as I know.

It seems best to let it drop from the store at least until there is demand.
Osiris
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17-Feb-2018(#46)
understood, surprised app use is not more widespread, thanks for creating it.
Admiral
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19-Feb-2018(#47)
Do whatever you want bill.
AlphakirA
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1-Mar-2018(#48)
I'm on Android but it's fairly useless for me since I can't do much in regards to sending a trade offer or marking a trade as received. I mainly keep it for PMs and because this (stupid gosh darn) site has a weird place in my heart and I feel I need an app on my phone at all times to remind me of that.

That said, did you see any new user boost when it was released? I know it was beta on android, was it ever taken out? I bet if it was a little more functional it'd have a chance at increasing the userbase quite a bit, though I'm not sure if you'd want a new younger crowd trouncing in with their rock and roll and drugs.
bill
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2-Mar-2018(#49)
There was no boost. The usage numbers for the app are quite low in general.

The app is done and out of beta.

There's zero chance adding more features would bring in more users.

It was a ton of work (months) to get the app as functional as it is and basically only a handful of people use it. So yeah. Investing a lot more effort into it seems illogical unless I just want to do it for fun or something. But, I don't. Sorry.

Topic   ios app expiring