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Topic   N64/Mass Effect/Witcher 3/Detroit Become Hooman Haters Club

Kommie
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* 27-Mar(#1)
Welcome to the N64, Mass Effect, Witcher 3 and Detroit Become Hooman Haters Club. Discuss all things about why these games suck.

I know @DarkFact wants to vent on how awful Mass Effect truly is.

Fudge Mass Effect. Fudge The Witcher 3. Fudge Detroit Become Hooman.

Other potential members besides @DarkFact :

@Archer
@Feeb
@Heavyd814life

Nintendo 64 sucks, discuss.

DarkFact
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27-Mar(#2)
Witcher 3 fr tho
egg
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27-Mar(#3)
I'd probably hate these games too if I actually played 'em.
Lunar
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27-Mar(#4)
I'm going to start Witcher 3 today

Kommie
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27-Mar(#5)
Lunar wrote:
> I'm going to start Witcher 3 today
>
>

You'll hate it
Kommie
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27-Mar(#6)
Mass Effect, aka Dialogue Wheel Simulator w/ the false sense that choices matter.

Witcher 3: this is 85% a fetch quest to find Ciri.
loztdogs
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27-Mar(#7)
I wouldn't say I hate W3 but, I've started it 3 times and end up dropping it for something else. I did enjoy ME1&2 back in the day.

BloodPuppetX
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27-Mar(#8)
Lunar wrote:
> I'm going to start Witcher 3 today

You're going to love it!
DrizzDrizzDrizz
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27-Mar(#9)
Never played ME but will soon and I'm confident I'll enjoy

Witcher 3 is up there as a GOAT candidate for me tbh
DrizzDrizzDrizz
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27-Mar(#10)
at least you're not bashing Detroit Become Human
Kommie
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27-Mar(#11)
OP edited.
Kommie
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27-Mar(#12)
DrizzDrizzDrizz wrote:
>
>
> Witcher 3 is up there as a GOAT candidate for me tbh

Really? A fetch quest game is really GOAT material?
MrBean
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27-Mar(#13)
Agreed with Detroit and Mass Effect. Sadly haven't played Witcher 3. I have one local buddy that swears W3 is the best game ever, and we never agree about anything, so willing to say I belong in this cool kids club, haha
KCPenguins
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* 27-Mar(#14)
Haven't played Detroit. Couldn't get into Mass Effect. Tried to get into Witcher 3, put maybe 20+ hours into it, just couldn't. Geralt wasn't interesting and many decisions lead to stupid quests or terrible outcomes. Kudos to the team behind it, I'm sure that fictional era would have been a terrible place to live.
Gypsy
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27-Mar(#15)
lol
Kommie
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27-Mar(#16)
Gypsy wrote:
> lol

Welcome!
Cevil
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27-Mar(#17)
Thanks for the inspiration @Kommie, I think I'm going to create a "Dark Souls/Eldin Ring Haters" thread now.
Archer
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27-Mar(#18)
Why was I tagged for this?
Feeb
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* 27-Mar(#19)
This craphole reeks of loser. But I do dislike ME and pick your adventure garbage visual novels.
Kommie
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28-Mar(#20)
Archer wrote:
> Why was I tagged for this?
>

Secretly, everyone who claims to like Mass Effect really hates it.
Scott
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28-Mar(#21)
egg wrote:
> I'd probably hate these games too if I actually played 'em.

It's not very often I agree with egg, but this.
Kommie
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28-Mar(#22)
Dialogue Wheel Simulators and Fetch Quest games aren't fun.
Archer
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28-Mar(#23)
Kommie wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Why was I tagged for this?
> |>
>
> Secretly, everyone who claims to like Mass Effect really hates it.

So you secretly love Detroit?
Kommie
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28-Mar(#24)
I said Mass Effect. It doesn't apply to Detroit.
benstylus
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28-Mar(#25)
This whole topic is asinine.

Fitz
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28-Mar(#26)
You need help
Kommie
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28-Mar(#27)
Fitz wrote:
> You need help

It is you who needs help. Clearly, you probably like these abominations.
sa330206
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28-Mar(#28)
Mass Effect 1 is pretty good. Witcher 3 is excellent. I've never played Detroit Become Human.

I just finished ME1 (Legendary Remake Version) last night. While it has aged some, it originally came out in 2007 so that's to be expected. I thought there was too much time spent in the Mako and many of the buildings on the planets were redundant, it was still an enjoyable game. IIRC ME2 made quite a few QOL improvements so I think it will be easier to get through. I'd still give ME1 a solid 7/10, even today though.
Kommie
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29-Mar(#29)
ME1 is a solid 0/10
Lunar
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* 29-Mar(#30)
Do we need another Game of the Month thread devoted to playing these games on repeat?

Kommie
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29-Mar(#31)
Lunar wrote:
> Do we need another Game of the Month thread devoted to playing these games on repeat?
>
>

No, no, no. Torture isn't fun. Who would even want to play these more than once?
Lunar
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29-Mar(#32)
Let's plat these. Then go back on PS3 and 360 and plat the originals.

Kommie
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29-Mar(#33)
Oh yes, Mass Effect is such a rich and advanced technology universe that they still use elevators. Ella. Vaders.
Archer
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29-Mar(#34)
Red, Blue Or Green?
Heavyd814life
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29-Mar(#35)
Oh Kommie lol

Bleed_DukeBlue
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29-Mar(#36)
This thread feels like a cry for help.
Kommie
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30-Mar(#37)
Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> This thread feels like a cry for help.

It is intended for those in denial. These games are overrated junk and people need to see the truth.
Kommie
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30-Mar(#38)
Archer wrote:
> Red, Blue Or Green?

Clearly, red.
theJaw
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30-Mar(#39)
Kommie wrote:
> Mass Effect, aka Dialogue Wheel Simulator w/ the false sense that choices matter.
>

Choices do matter though. Maybe not on the third game's ending but I'm about halfway through Mass Effect 1 and already choices I made have had an impact on the game's story and which characters make it through.
Kommie
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31-Mar(#40)
Lies.
sa330206
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31-Mar(#41)
I still feel like this is a joke thread. When i asked whats wrong with ME in another thread i was told "everything." So far in this thread the only things ive heard is 1) choices dont matter and 2) they use elevators.

For 1, its not true. Some of the choices do give different outcomes. I dont want to list spoilers but there is a whole ME wiki you can browse to confirm. For 2, the game was made in 2007. Of course it has some loading/elevators.

Ill even add to the list that the Mako sucks...but i still stick with my 7/10 rating. Its a good game.
Kommie
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31-Mar(#42)
Mass Effect 1 sucked so much that I never tried the others. I'm sure they suck too.
benstylus
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31-Mar(#43)
sa330206 wrote:
> I still feel like this is a joke thread.

It's kommie, of course it's a joke thread.


Heavyd814life
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31-Mar(#44)
Kommie wrote:
> Mass Effect 1 sucked so much that I never tried the others. I'm sure they suck too.
>

You try any of the Dragon Age games? Or any other BioWare games?

You know how much I love Detroit, but I won't make a case for it. I'm guessing you don't like any of the choice-driven adventure games like Life is Strange, The Walking Dead, Until Dawn etc? I know they just aren't some people's cup of tea.

On The Witcher 3...how far into it did you get? What were your gripes? I know there are people who didn't really dig the combat and i know it's a bit of a slow burn, but beyond that, the worldbuilding, the characters, the storytelling...it's all top-tier RPG stuff.

Feeb
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* 31-Mar(#45)
If you didn't like the Witcher 3 combat then you played it like a scared itty baby. That's the problem here.

Here's your fetch quest- fetch a tissue and some pampers.
Heavyd814life
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31-Mar(#46)
Feeb wrote:
> If you didn't like the Witcher 3 combat then you played it like a scared itty baby.
> That's the problem here.

I love the combat personally, but it's a common complaint I see. It takes a bit of getting used to, but once you get a hang of it, I think it's pretty great!

Feeb
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31-Mar(#47)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> If you didn't like the Witcher 3 combat then you played it like a scared itty
> baby.
>> That's the problem here.
>
> I love the combat personally, but it's a common complaint I see. It takes a bit of
> getting used to, but once you get a hang of it, I think it's pretty great!
>
>

It's pretty deep just wish it got deeper faster. And it's definitely not very easy if you play on deathmarch- gotta know it early. But once you're OP- it feels simplistic.
Kommie
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31-Mar(#48)
I'll respond in depth on my computer later @Heavyd814life but I actually beat The Witcher 3. Kept playing it hoping it'd get better but when I beat it I went "That was it?" It felt like it was 85% a fetch quest to find Ciri.
Feeb
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31-Mar(#49)
Explain why that's a reason to hate the game in 1000 words or more please.
Kommie
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31-Mar(#50)
If the game were great, or memorable, I'd remember a lot more than the fact that it was primarily a fetch quest game.
Feeb
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* 31-Mar(#51)
You were high? Life is a fetch quest. With little sleep at times. And I can't remember last night.
Finn
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31-Mar(#52)
Reading these kinda makes me want to play them more... Though I would have to buy Mass effect... I have W3 and Detroit Become Human... I may just start one of these up after God of War.








DrizzDrizzDrizz
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31-Mar(#53)
Detroit is great for that type of game, it doesn't transcend the genre or anything (though it does feel more ambitious) so if you're not a fan of quantic Dream games and similar, you probably won't love Detroit either
Every now and then I get an itch to play it again in a totally different way
Finn
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31-Mar(#54)
Can't say I have played a QD game before...
I have everyone of them... With the exception of Indigo Prophecy. But I do like games like this. I just need to start.


dunno001
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* 2-Apr(#55)
Kommie wrote:
> Mass Effect, aka Dialogue Wheel Simulator w/ the false sense that choices matter.

Well, I do like visual novels, but the choices in those DO matter. Usually.

> Witcher 3: this is 85% a fetch quest to find Ciri.

Now that sounds pointless. All you have to do is hold home for a couple of seconds, and she'll answer your question.

Disclaimer: I have not played, and do not own, any of these games.
Kommie
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10-Apr(#56)
Detroit: Become Hooman is terrible. Why? David Cage literally just took the Civil Rights Movement and other similar racially divisive periods of American History and replaced black people with Androids. That right there is beyond lazy storytelling. The end of the game is just a rip-off of the Selma March. It's basically a retelling/allegory for the Civil Rights Movement/racism but told with Androids. Wow, you ripped off History and made a game with it. How totally unoriginal. I'm not saying all games don't rip off something or other in some way, but the way Detroit does it is way too on the nose with it. Nothing original. Connor and Hank deserved better.
benstylus
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10-Apr(#57)
Kommie wrote:
> Detroit: Become Hooman is terrible. Why? David Cage literally just took the Civil
> Rights Movement and other similar racially divisive periods of American History and
> replaced black people with Androids. That right there is beyond lazy storytelling.
> The end of the game is just a rip-off of the Selma March. It's basically a retelling/allegory
> for the Civil Rights Movement/racism but told with Androids. Wow, you ripped off
> History and made a game with it. How totally unoriginal. I'm not saying all games
> don't rip off something or other in some way, but the way Detroit does it is way
> too on the nose with it. Nothing original. Connor and Hank deserved better.

Among others, Fantasy Flight's Android universe also does that sort of thing way better.

Not just androids (bioroids in this universe), but also genetically modified clones, and the fight for and against them. Shades of both civil rights in terms of their humanity, but also of some of the fears around illegal immigration as your everyday people are being put out of work due to cheaper clone/bioroid labor purpose built for the job. Add in a dash of prime directive sort of stuff for the bioroids, cybernetic modifications, megacorporations versus hackers, and build in more story elements throughout the world of just how far people and corporations will go to serve their agendas, and you've got a really solid world to play in.

And since the best game in the universe was officially discontinued, it's legacy lives on in an unofficial capacity through Project Nisei which is doing a fantastic job.

theJaw
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10-Apr(#58)
Kommie wrote:
> Detroit: Become Hooman is terrible. Why? David Cage literally just took the Civil
> Rights Movement and other similar racially divisive periods of American History and
> replaced black people with Androids. That right there is beyond lazy storytelling.
> The end of the game is just a rip-off of the Selma March. It's basically a retelling/allegory
> for the Civil Rights Movement/racism but told with Androids. Wow, you ripped off
> History and made a game with it. How totally unoriginal. I'm not saying all games
> don't rip off something or other in some way, but the way Detroit does it is way
> too on the nose with it. Nothing original. Connor and Hank deserved better.

Tbh this write up sorta made me want to finally play Detroit.
Kommie
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10-Apr(#59)
Just read about the Civil Rights movement /MLK/Malcom X instead.

Also, David Cage is apparently a homophobe who thinks all women are whores.

https://www.dayonepatch.com/topic/11838-david-cage...

How he can make a game like Detroit and be anti gay/hates women is baffling.
theJaw
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10-Apr(#60)
I've read plenty on the civil rights movement my man, some would say I was obsessed for a while there haha. That's why I got interested in Detroit after your post.

But the homophobia/misogynistic stuff is disappointing, probably doesn't change the quality of the game but I suppose I can skip that crap. I have the game disc already (got it during a Gamestop sale) but whatev.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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10-Apr(#61)
I thought of this thread today when I heard Doja Cat's song "Woman" on the radio. I sounds like she's singing "Let me be your hooman. Hooman Hooman Hooman." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxW5yuzVi8w
DarkFact
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11-Apr(#62)
Someone couldn't figure out how to bag Miranda and ragequit
Kommie
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17-May(#63)
Re opened to discuss how crapty the Nintendo 64 is. The controller alone has to be the worst controller in existence.
Kommie
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* 17-May(#64)
Like, um what crap for brains designed this

image

Who has three hands? Much less two left hands?
PizzaTheHutt
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* 17-May(#65)
It took me a long time to get used to the default N64 controller that came with the console. Me and my friends that had an N64 all seemed to prefer 3rd party options, with this one being the most common. For the first year or two I didn't know anyone that had a N64 and didn't own this controller.
image


As for The Witcher, Mass Effect and Detroit, no comment because I haven't played them.
Feeb
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17-May(#66)
Never saw that controller. N64 controller didnt feel wrong for the library imho.
PizzaTheHutt
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17-May(#67)
Eventually I gave up on buying 3rd party controllers because a lot of them (especially the cheap crappy ones sold at BlockBuster) would last maybe a month or two before the Z buttons would break or analog sticks became loose. I realized the money I was wasting on constantly replacing those things could have been spent on more games instead. Over time my opinion changed and I preferred the 1st party controller.

I can't remember which brand controller it was, but I had a 3rd party controller on N64 where the Rumble Pak would just randomly fall out of the controller if you did anything that caused it to rumble for more than a couple seconds. It'd happen the most in racing games when you'd crash or first-person shooters when something would explode.

theJaw
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* 17-May(#68)
I had no issue with the N64 controller as a 7-year-old so I can't imagine the design was really that bad.
Scott
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17-May(#69)
I always thought it looked really dumb, but I had no problem with using it.
Frank
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* 18-May(#70)
Detroit Become Human = Good Story/Bad Game

It had a really great story but was an awful game. I played through it because the plot was engaging, however, the gameplay was very simplistic and didn't feel very polished.

I felt no satisfaction actually playing it, and felt the story could have been just as good adapted into a movie.


Kommie
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18-May(#71)
I mean, the story is just the Civil Rights Movement but replaces black people with Androids. It's so lazy. But then again, I think a lot of "android sci-fi" stuff is lazy and uses that for the story. And yeah, the "gameplay" is horrid. When I did play it I put it on the easy setting, fudging QTEs aren't gameplay.
DarkFact
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18-May(#72)
At least it's not fudging Bugsnax
Feeb
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* 18-May(#73)
DarkFact wrote:
> At least it's not fudging Bugsnax

Or the A24 version- granny fudging bugsnax.
Kommie
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18-May(#74)
DarkFact wrote:
> At least it's not fudging Bugsnax

Yes! Cause Bugsnax is good!
Fitz
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18-May(#75)
Thanks for making this post, just beat Detroit again now moving on to mass effect 3, then going to jump on over to Witcher 3
Fitz
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18-May(#76)
might even dust off the n64
Kommie
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18-May(#77)
You must enjoy torture.
DrizzDrizzDrizz
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18-May(#78)
I'm playing Mass Effect 1 for the first time and tbh so far it's not quite up to my expectations - the combat is pretty bad and it seems like every side planet has same exact formula and even identical buildings? And other minor annoyances

I'm confident i'll dig the story and the game will grow on me though, and hopefully sequels will improve some things
Frank
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18-May(#79)
DarkFact wrote:
> At least it's not fudging Bugsnax

Capturing wild creatures... Such an original idea.
Kommie
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18-May(#80)
Frank wrote:
> DarkFact wrote:
>> At least it's not fudging Bugsnax
>
> Capturing wild creatures... Such an original idea.
>

It's fun. Unlike Pokémon.

Topic   N64/Mass Effect/Witcher 3/Detroit Become Hooman Haters Club