Top 10: 1. Dying Light 2 - 76 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. God of War Ragnarok 4. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Kerbal Space Program 2 7. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 8. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 9. Total War: Warhammer 3 - 86 10. Triangle Strategy - 81
Top 10: 1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp 2. Chocobo GP - 65 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. F1 2022 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 7. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 8. River City Girls Zero - 69 9. Splatoon 3 10. Triangle Strategy - 81
Alternates: 1. River City Girls 2 2. Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin
Top 10: 1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp 2. Bayonetta 3 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 8. Stray 9. Total War: Warhammer 3 - 86 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. Bayonetta 3 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Football Manager 2023 4. Forza Motorsport 2022 5. God of War Ragnarok 6. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 7. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 8. Splatoon 3 9. Total War: Warhammer 3 - 86 10. Triangle Strategy - 81
Alternates: 1. F1 2022 2. Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin
Top 10: 1. Card Shark 2. Dead Space 3. Dying Light 2 - 76 4. Elden Ring - 97 5. God of War Ragnarok 6. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 7. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 8. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 10. Tunic
Top 10: 1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Ghostwire: Tokyo 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 8. Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope 9. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 10. Rainbow Six Extraction - 73
Alternates: 1. Oxenfree II 2. Triangle Strategy - 81
Top 10: 1. A Plague Tale: Requiem 2. Dying Light 2 - 76 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Mario + Rabbids Spark of Hope 7. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 8. Splatoon 3 9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 10. Triangle Strategy - 81
Top 10: 1. Babylon's Fall - 41 2. Bayonetta 3 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 10. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands
Alternates: 1. Dying Light 2 - 76 2. Ghostwire: Tokyo
Top 10: 1. Babylon's Fall - 41 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 4. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 5. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 6. King of Fighters XV - 80 7. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 8. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands 9. Vampire: The Masquerade - Swansong 10. Weird West
Top 10: 1. Elden Ring - 97 2. God of War Ragnarok 3. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 4. Hollow Knight: Silksong 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 7. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 8. Starfield 9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 10. Tiny Tina's Wonerlands
Alternates: 1. Dying Light 2 - 76 2. Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Top 10: 1. Bayonetta 3 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Ghostwire: Tokyo 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope 8. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 9. Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. A Plague Tale: Requiem 2. Bayonetta 3 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 6. Hogwarts Legacy 7. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 8. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 9. Saints Row 10. Triangle Strategy - 81
Alternates: 1. Dying Light 2 - 76 2. King of Fighters XV - 80
Top 10: 1. Bayonetta 3 2. Dying Light 2 - 76 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Hollow Knight: Silksong 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope 8. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 9. Starfield 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. A Plague Tale: Requiem 2. Baldur's Gate 3 3. Bayonetta 3 4. Elden Ring - 97 5. Ghostwire: Tokyo 6. God of War Ragnarok 7. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 8. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 9. Starfield 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. Bayonetta 3 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Forspoken 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Hollow Knight: Silksong 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 9. Starfield 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. Bayonetta 3 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. God of War Ragnarok 4. Hogwarts Legacy 5. Hollow Knight: Silksong 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 8. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 9. Splatoon 3 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. Elden Ring - 97 2. God of War Ragnarok 3. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 4. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 5. Pokemon Legends: Arceus - 83 6. Splatoon 3 7. Starfield 8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League 9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
Alternates: 1. LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 2. Sonic Frontiers
Top 10: 1. AI: The Somnium Files -- nirvanA Initiative 2. Bayonetta 3 3. Clive N' Wrench 4. Elden Ring - 97 5. God of War Ragnarok 6. Hollow Knight: Silksong 7. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 8. Sports Story 9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 10. Triangle Strategy - 81
Alternates: 1. Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope 2. TMNT: Shredder's Revenge
Top 10: 1. Dune: Spice Wars 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Glitched 4. Gotham Knights 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 7. Mario + Rabbids Spark of Hope 8. Starfield 9. Triangle Strategy - 81 10. Weird West
Alternates: 1. Nobody Saves the World 2. Sonic Frontiers
Top 10: 1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp 2. Bayonetta 3 3. Elden Ring - 97 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Shovel Knight Dig 7. Sifu - 80 8. Splatoon 3 9. Starfield 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Alternates: 1. Gran Turismo 7 - 88 2. Kirby and the Forgotten Land
Top 10: 1. A Plague's Tale: Requiem 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. God of War Ragnarok 4. Gotham Knights 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Marvel's Midnight Suns 7. Redfall 8. Sifu - 80 9. Starfield 10. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
Top 10: 1. Dying Light 2 - 76 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Forspoken 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 6. Oxenfree II 7. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 8. Starfield 9. Stray 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Alternates: 1. Hogwarts Legacy 2. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
Top 10: 1. Babylon's Fall - 41 2. Bayonetta 3 3. Bomb Rush Cyberfunk 4. Elden Ring - 97 5. Ghostwire: Tokyo 6. God of War Ragnarok 7. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 8. Hollow Knight: Silksong 9. Kirby and the Forgotten Land 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Alternates: 1. Gotham Knights 2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
Top 10: 1. A Plague Tale: Requiem 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Forspoken 4. God of War Ragnarok 5. Hogwarts Legacy 6. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 7. Marvel's Midnight Suns 8. Starfield 9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League 10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Top 10: 1. A Plague Tale: Requiem 2. Elden Ring - 97 3. Horizon Forbidden West - 88 4. Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope 5. MLB The Show 22 6. Moss: Book II 7. Sea of Stars 8. Slime Rancher 2 9. Two Point Campus 10. Weird West
Alternates: 1. LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 2. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands
Top 10: 1. EA Sports PGA Tour 2. F1 2022 3. FIFA 23 4. MLB The Show 22 5. Madden NFL 23 6. NBA 2K23 7. NHL 23 8. PGA Tour 2K23 9. WRC 11 10. WWE 2K22
Alternates: 1. Forza Motorsport 2022 2. Gran Turismo 7 - 88
Upcoming Releases:
January: Rainbow Six Extraction -- January 20 Pokemon Legends: Arceus -- January 28
February: Dying Light 2 -- February 4 Sifu -- February 8 River City Girls Zero -- February 14 King of Fighters XV -- February 17 Total War: Warhammer 3 -- February 17 Horizon Forbidden West -- February 18 Elden Ring -- February 25
March: Babylon's Fall -- March 3 Gran Turismo 7 -- March 4 Triangle Strategy -- March 4 Chocobo GP -- March 10 WWE 2K22 -- March 11 Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin -- March 18 Ghostwire: Tokyo -- March 25 Tiny Tina's Wonderlands -- March 25 Weird West -- March 31
April: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga -- April 5 MLB The Show 22 -- April 5
May: Vampire: The Masquerade -- Swansong -- May 19
August: Saints Row -- August 23
October: Forspoken -- October 11 Gotham Knights -- October 25
November: Starfield -- November 11
December: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 -- December 8
League Overview:
Welcome to Year 5 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2023. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Final Fantasy XVI and it gets pushed into 2023 (because you know it will lol), one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2022. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.
The Rules: 1. No DLC or Expansions 2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed) 3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2023. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.
The Prize: 1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card 2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card 3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card
Let me know if you guys have any issues submitting your lists or if you have any questions. I get alerts once a list is submitted so I'll add folks to the OP as the notifications come in.
Thanks for hosting again, had a lot of fun with this last year. Hopefully I don't have another Balan Wonderworld moment. A lot of games were rushed out and delayed which screwed a lot of people over last year. I'm sure there will be more of the same this year only slightly less (I hope). Anyways, after so many promising games went sour last year, I decided to go with a slightly unconventional approach and trust my indie instincts mostly with some AAA games mixed in. I'm pretty confident I will have many uniquely selected games.
> Sent my list. @Heavyd814life, didn't I tie with you in 2018? I remember using the
> eShop you sent me to buy Smash Bros Ultimate.
We tied in The Game Awards betting special thing we did back in 2018 where we tried to guess the winners of all the dumb awards. Thinking back, that was actually kinda fun!
I've had my list ready for three months, lol. I just submitted it. Probably a mistake to not check new upcoming games. But I'll roll with it. And complain in 11 months when it fails me.
I submitted my list. Admittedly I didn't put a whole lot of thought into it. I couldn't think of any indie games to include that I had enough faith in to know they'd review well, so I bet everything on my list will look similar to almost everyone else's lists.
Do we need to specify the system if it's a multiplatform game?
Likewise, do we need to get the name of the game correct? For example, if I was choosing something like Madden NFL, if they drop the Madden moniker since he passed away and it just became EA NFL, would it still count (as long as its clearly the same game just a different name)?
> Do we need to specify the system if it's a multiplatform game?
>
> Likewise, do we need to get the name of the game correct? For example, if I was choosing
> something like Madden NFL, if they drop the Madden moniker since he passed away
> and it just became EA NFL, would it still count (as long as its clearly the same
> game just a different name)?
>
>
He puts the name in on release, I think. I think someone guessed a new Metroid game for this year but obviously they didn't know the name it would actually have.
Also I put Breaking of the Weapons 2 and I'm pretty sure he knows what I'm referring to.
I think I'll give this year a try. Never really understood fantasy league stuff, but I think I understand this one. Will mull over my choices this weekend.
> To be fair, HFB was in development probably right after HZD so.....
I believe rumblings were that it was originally being made for next gen. Then there was backlash and they confirmed it would be both PS4 and PS5. Then they revealed the PS4 wouldn't have a free PS5 update and fans got mad again. Now the PS4 version WILL include a free update.
> This is just my opinion - but I don't think sports games should count... They may
> as well be remasters/remakes of the previous game....
This is a fair point. We can probably make this a rule starting next year if people are cool with that. The good thing though is that there aren't many sports games that really review well every year. So while they are definitely a safe choice because they come out every year, you don't really get the upside. Even MLB The Show which was almost consistently in the mid-80s took a dip last year and was at 77, I believe.
> Submitted! I was stuck at 14 for about a day...took a while to decide what to cut
> out
Same here! It's the reason it took me an extra day to post this new thread. I like to have my list done before other people submit theirs and I was stuck on 14 games for a couple of days. I even left my most anticipated game of the year off my list because it felt too risky.
> This is just my opinion - but I don't think sports games should count... They may
> as well be remasters/remakes of the previous game....
That applies to the FIFA games on Switch at least. I know sports games always get a bad rep for just being "nothing but roster updates", but that's literally all EA Sports does for the Switch version of FIFA.
>> This is just my opinion - but I don't think sports games should count... They
> may
>> as well be remasters/remakes of the previous game....
>
>
> That applies to the FIFA games on Switch at least. I know sports games always get
> a bad rep for just being "nothing but roster updates", but that's literally all EA
> Sports does for the Switch version of FIFA.
>
I agree. Sports games that get yearly releases shouldn't count. I know that some sports games don't always come out every year, like ufc, racing games, tennis, etc.
But then if we don't allow sports games, what about call of duty? They come out every year and imo they are mainly reskins, so that could also count as a remaster as well. Then it starts to get tricky. I vote by saying leave it as it is. If someone wants to lists sports games, go right ahead. They would only be hurting themselves in the long run
I agree with all the reasons as to why sports games should remain. While sports games are a safe bet that they're going to release, it doesn't guarantee a high score. When it comes to winning things like this, it requires people to take risks and pick games that they think will score higher than what the masses might be picking. A lesser known indie titles or obscure JRPG could be the gamble that gets you the points you need. Nobody is forced to pick titles that are unsure of being released.
Is there any way of making a quick edit as long as it's before the deadline or once it's submitted we are locked in? Forgot a smaller title that I think will review real well and was hoping to slide it in there somewhere
I want to understand the remake vs remaster thing. I'm guessing the Link's Awakening remake on Switch would have been ok (if anyone saw it coming). But what about Advance Wars 1 & 2: Re-Boot Camp? There are remaking those games, even if they are mostly the same with updated graphics.
> I want to understand the remake vs remaster thing. I'm guessing the Link's Awakening
> remake on Switch would have been ok (if anyone saw it coming). But what about Advance
> Wars 1 & 2: Re-Boot Camp? There are remaking those games, even if they are mostly
> the same with updated graphics.
I put that on my list. @Heavyd814life said he will allow it. I wasn't sure myself, but the eShop listing does refer to it as a remake so I thought it'd be fine.
>> I want to understand the remake vs remaster thing. I'm guessing the Link's Awakening
>> remake on Switch would have been ok (if anyone saw it coming). But what about
> Advance
>> Wars 1 & 2: Re-Boot Camp? There are remaking those games, even if they are mostly
>> the same with updated graphics.
>
> I put that on my list. @Heavyd814life said he will allow it.
> I wasn't sure myself, but the eShop listing does refer to it as a remake so I thought
> it'd be fine.
>
Yeah, the remake vs remaster thing seems to come up every year. I wonder if we should just do away with remakes moving forward to keep things simple, but then games like Resident Evil 2 wouldn't qualify which wouldn't feel right.
Advance Wars is a strange one. Some sites consider it a remake while others consider it a remaster. But I saw that Nintendo refers to it as a remake so I think it qualifies under the rules.
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