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dtp11
| | #1 posted May 6, 2008 at 12:17pm (EDT) |
This post is for anyone who's had a bad experience with EB Games (and Gamestop) or realizes that their trade in values are ridiculous and that they prey on the unknowing parents or the ignorant!
I realize it's "yay good for them" that they are able to do it, but it's only because we let them (well I don't anymore and maybe you don't either and props to you for that).
They are a disgrace to the Game Developers as well in many ways. There are numerous accounts from former EB employees on the internet about how they were trained to encourage customers to buy a used copy of a game instead of a new one because it's cheaper just so EB can get all the profit off the game they paid someone $2 for in a trade-in (among many other things they are trained to do). Meanwhile the Game Developers suffer who worked so hard to bring that game to you in the first place.
Many other things like their pushy fanboy staff (for the most part), selling broken consoles they received from trade-ins and not allowing you to return them unless you bought their one-time warranty, their horrible trade in values, or promotions where they say in fine print that you can't trade in games towards a console unless it's over $8 in hopes to get you in the store and just trade some or all of your games in anyway since you're already there (and then they try to sell you on something else that's completely ridiculous). And they won't provide you with a list of game trade-in values, nor will they tell you over the phone because they are trained to tell you to come in the store.
And not to mention their bad pre-order system (that gets refreshed after a few months and if you don't have your receipt, they wont give you your game and they steal your money) and countless other borderline illegal or bad-business ideas they have makes EB Games a place I will never shop at again!
The list goes on, but I will stop there. Feel free to ask me to further clarify on anything as well. | buffduff
 
| | #2 posted May 6, 2008 at 12:23pm (EDT) |
At least you don't have to send first.....that would just ruin everything for you. Luckily, I can just trade here and not deal with EB. | knighthawk
  
| | #3 posted May 6, 2008 at 12:31pm (EDT) |
my main problem is midnight openings. i guess i could go to walmart, but i dont like them much either.
 | Chad
 
| | #4 posted May 6, 2008 at 1:20pm (EDT) |
dtp = mewtwo. a canadian who wall of texts all the time, there can be only one. | invisibleink
| | #5 posted May 6, 2008 at 1:56pm (EDT) |
yo dusty dustin, i can wall of text too!!
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| | #6 posted May 6, 2008 at 2:01pm (EDT) |
Yeah dude, everyone here hates EB/Gamestop.
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| | #7 posted May 6, 2008 at 2:11pm (EDT) |
dtp11 wrote:
> And not to mention their bad pre-order system (that gets refreshed
> after a few months and if you don't have your receipt, they wont give
> you your game and they steal your money) and countless other borderline
> illegal or bad-business ideas they have makes EB Games a place I will
> never shop at again!
I don't know which store you go to, but when I preorder something at GameStop, they tell me to either bring in my receipt or show them my ID when I go to pick it up.
 | knighthawk
| | #8 posted May 6, 2008 at 2:20pm (EDT) |
vDub wrote:
> dtp11 wrote:
>> And not to mention their bad pre-order system (that gets refreshed
>> after a few months and if you don't have your receipt, they wont
> give
>> you your game and they steal your money) and countless other borderline
>> illegal or bad-business ideas they have makes EB Games a place
> I will
>> never shop at again!
>
> I don't know which store you go to, but when I preorder something
> at GameStop, they tell me to either bring in my receipt or show them
> my ID when I go to pick it up.
>
>
brought my receipt for GTA4 and he still asked me for my ID. probably to check age though. like EB really cares...
| Bubbler28
| | #9 posted May 6, 2008 at 3:19pm (EDT) |
If the employee doesn't card you and gets discovered, it's the pinkslip. I'm sure he cares. | knighthawk
| | #10 posted May 6, 2008 at 3:35pm (EDT) |
knighthawk wrote:
> vDub wrote:
>> dtp11 wrote:
> |>> And not to mention their bad pre-order system (that gets refreshed
> |>> after a few months and if you don't have your receipt, they wont
>> give
> |>> you your game and they steal your money) and countless other borderline
> |>> illegal or bad-business ideas they have makes EB Games a place
>> I will
> |>> never shop at again!
>>
>> I don't know which store you go to, but when I preorder something
>> at GameStop, they tell me to either bring in my receipt or show
> them
>> my ID when I go to pick it up.
>>
>>
>
> brought my receipt for GTA4 and he still asked me for my ID. probably
> to check age though. like EB really cares...
>
note how i said EB...
| MolestoTheClown
| | #11 posted May 6, 2008 at 3:42pm (EDT) |
Looks like invisibleink caught someone up in the CROSSFIRE!
 | Candle_Jack
| | #12 posted May 6, 2008 at 3:46pm (EDT) |
I've only had one problem with gamestop, which was some how losing my pre-order status of Odin Sphere. (shouldn't of tossed the receipt) While on the other hand all my experiences with EB have been lackluster. The workers are rude as hell. Asshats if I ever saw'em. | Tnutty
| | #13 posted May 6, 2008 at 5:18pm (EDT) |
Do any of you guys have GameCrazy's nearby? I know GS/EB sucks, thats why I shop at my local GC. I know they don't always give the very best trade value or anything. But their customer service is awesome, they have good guarantees on all games, they often give stuff away with pre-orders and I think its just an all around good place. They have good promotions with the MVP card where you get 20% more credit when you buy a recently released game (like GTAIV, I traded in RB6:V2, which I bought for $39.99 at Fry's and got $40 at Gamecrazy for) I love my GC and have been one of their best customers for around 5 years now.
I got 99 problems but a game ain't one | DR_SPOCK
| | #14 posted May 6, 2008 at 5:38pm (EDT) |
Game Crazy has much better prices and is ideal for getting deals (I've found two copies of Pikmin 2 @ $14.99, Jedi Outcast (GC) @ $7.99, Etrian Odyssey @ $16.99, et al). I've found their employees and company practices to be only marginally superior to Gamestop/EB, however.
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| | #15 posted May 6, 2008 at 5:42pm (EDT) |
MolestoTheClown wrote:
> Looks like invisibleink caught someone up in the CROSSFIRE!
>
>
without a doubt! | seanner
| | #16 posted May 6, 2008 at 5:58pm (EDT) |
dtp11 wrote:
> This post is for anyone who's had a bad experience with EB Games (and
> Gamestop) or realizes that their trade in values are ridiculous and
> that they prey on the unknowing parents or the ignorant!
>
> I realize it's "yay good for them" that they are able to do it, but
> it's only because we let them (well I don't anymore and maybe you
> don't either and props to you for that).
>
> They are a disgrace to the Game Developers as well in many ways. There
> are numerous accounts from former EB employees on the internet about
> how they were trained to encourage customers to buy a used copy of
> a game instead of a new one because it's cheaper just so EB can get
> all the profit off the game they paid someone $2 for in a trade-in
> (among many other things they are trained to do). Meanwhile the Game
> Developers suffer who worked so hard to bring that game to you in
> the first place.
>
> Many other things like their pushy fanboy staff (for the most part),
> selling broken consoles they received from trade-ins and not allowing
> you to return them unless you bought their one-time warranty, their
> horrible trade in values, or promotions where they say in fine print
> that you can't trade in games towards a console unless it's over $8
> in hopes to get you in the store and just trade some or all of your
> games in anyway since you're already there (and then they try to sell
> you on something else that's completely ridiculous). And they won't
> provide you with a list of game trade-in values, nor will they tell
> you over the phone because they are trained to tell you to come in
> the store.
>
> And not to mention their bad pre-order system (that gets refreshed
> after a few months and if you don't have your receipt, they wont give
> you your game and they steal your money) and countless other borderline
> illegal or bad-business ideas they have makes EB Games a place I will
> never shop at again!
>
> The list goes on, but I will stop there. Feel free to ask me to further
> clarify on anything as well.
The only thing I can agree on with all of that is the used system warranty and that is pretty dirty, but I don't buy used systems because I don't know what has been done to them and who has handled it.
I personally love EB Games, but I also like Blockbuster, you just need to shop around and figure out where the best deal is. BBV is a pretty crapty place too but I'm not gonna rant about that. | benstylus
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| | #17 posted May 6, 2008 at 8:43pm (EDT) |
dtp11 wrote:
> They are a disgrace to the Game Developers as well in many ways. There
> are numerous accounts from former EB employees on the internet about
> how they were trained to encourage customers to buy a used copy of
> a game instead of a new one because it's cheaper just so EB can get
> all the profit off the game they paid someone $2 for in a trade-in
> (among many other things they are trained to do). Meanwhile the Game
> Developers suffer who worked so hard to bring that game to you in
> the first place.
MULTIPLE CHOICE TIME!!!
If developers were really that upset and hurt by this, they would stop doing which of the following:
A - giving Gamestop any allocation of new product, and let them try to subsist on used game trade-ins alone.
B - giving Gamestop cool exclusives and preorder bonuses.
C - linking from their official site to Gamestop's site when you click to purchase their game
Since they are still doing all the above, and have not made a public plea urging people NOT to buy from Gamestop, then there is one logical conclusion one can come to from this:
Developers are not significantly upset nor hurt by Gamestop's tactics.
And if they are not upset nor hurt by Gamestop's tactics, then that means Gamestop must be earning the developers bucketloads of money.
And do you know what a lot of people who trade in their old games do? They trade them towards (you guessed it) PREORDERS FOR NEW GAMES!
I think it's quite clear that Gamestop does not have a purely parasitic relationship with the game industry.
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| | #18 posted May 6, 2008 at 9:22pm (EDT) |
Gamestop does what they do to legally make money. The only thing I hate is when they con little kids into trading 20+ games to try and get something new. | GREENKILLA
| | #19 posted May 6, 2008 at 10:51pm (EDT) |
maybe workers are dicks over at canada?
Anyways, i've had a bad experience at GS as well. I bought a PC game there, which was battlefield 1942 anthology. It came with 8 disks. I brought up the game, which was already packed, got ready to pay, but then he starts reaching under the counter to get some disks and stuff out. I just think the one i handed him is a display, so i let it go. When i get to the car i open it and like 3 disks fall out[its a 6-pack plastic case] and there is no CD_key. I go back and return it, walk to target, which is 3 min away from my gamestop, and buy it there where everything is brand new. Opened it at home, and the extra disks came in already-packed slipcases and what do you know-a cd-key. | thunderdonkey
| #20 posted May 6, 2008 at 11:13pm (EDT)
edited May 6, 2008 at 11:14pm (EDT) |
dtp11 wrote:
> This post is for anyone who's had a bad experience with EB Games (and
> Gamestop) or realizes that their trade in values are ridiculous and
> that they prey on the unknowing parents or the ignorant!
>
> I realize it's "yay good for them" that they are able to do it, but
> it's only because we let them (well I don't anymore and maybe you
> don't either and props to you for that).
>
> They are a disgrace to the Game Developers as well in many ways. There
> are numerous accounts from former EB employees on the internet about
> how they were trained to encourage customers to buy a used copy of
> a game instead of a new one because it's cheaper just so EB can get
> all the profit off the game they paid someone $2 for in a trade-in
> (among many other things they are trained to do). Meanwhile the Game
> Developers suffer who worked so hard to bring that game to you in
> the first place.
>
> Many other things like their pushy fanboy staff (for the most part),
> selling broken consoles they received from trade-ins and not allowing
> you to return them unless you bought their one-time warranty, their
> horrible trade in values, or promotions where they say in fine print
> that you can't trade in games towards a console unless it's over $8
> in hopes to get you in the store and just trade some or all of your
> games in anyway since you're already there (and then they try to sell
> you on something else that's completely ridiculous). And they won't
> provide you with a list of game trade-in values, nor will they tell
> you over the phone because they are trained to tell you to come in
> the store.
>
> And not to mention their bad pre-order system (that gets refreshed
> after a few months and if you don't have your receipt, they wont give
> you your game and they steal your money) and countless other borderline
> illegal or bad-business ideas they have makes EB Games a place I will
> never shop at again!
>
> The list goes on, but I will stop there. Feel free to ask me to further
> clarify on anything as well.
Ok Dusty, just like before, allow me to poke some holes in your rant..... 
Last I checked, nobody at EB/GS ever held a gun to a customers head forcing them to trade in their games. If a customer doesn't like the trade values offered, they can leave. They don't take games from kids without the parents to ensure that nobody feels taken advantage of.
Trade prices aren't quoted on the phone because the values can change daily depending on inventory quantity and other factors. Price also depends on condition and completeness.
A company trying to make a profit?? God forbid....
Do you realize that no company can subsist on the profits from new games and new hardware only? The reason is that new game sales only result in a profit of around $6 per title when they're sold at the new release price. Factor in the fact that most games "drop" in price fairly quickly (ie: a $59.99 title quickly drops to $29.99) and the company then takes a hit and in effect loses money.
Selling used games is the primary form of profit for these companies. Without used games, there wouldn't be specialty game stores. We'd all be stuck shopping at Wal-Mart and having less choice.
Fanboy staff is inevitable when you have staff who are knowledgable (for the most part.) Getting some old lady at Walmart trying to sell you an Xbox 360 game is hilarious.
Used consoles have a 30-day warranty free. You have the option of buying an extra year for piece of mind. If it breaks within 30 days, just bring it in with receipt and they'll replace it.
Trade promotions are restricted to $8 and up titles to prevent people from bringing in nothing but old sports crap or cheap racing titles in order to take advantage of a promo. These game stores aren't going to take in 3 titles that they'd sell for $9.99 in exchange for GTA IV. Obviously there has to be some potential for profit.
Pre-order system gets refreshed every 90 days from what I understand. Pretty straight that you'd need proof in the form of a receipt if you want your money back or your game. having a receipt is a policy almost all stores hold. not just EB/GS.
Do some flippin research before you rant.... you come across sounding like a spoiled little idiot. Just like your other forum postings...
| GREENKILLA
| | #21 posted May 6, 2008 at 11:21pm (EDT) |
welll said!
still i think they should train their staff to pack games.
| benstylus
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| | #22 posted May 6, 2008 at 11:25pm (EDT) |
thunderdonkey wrote:
> Trade prices aren't quoted on the phone because the values can change
> daily depending on inventory quantity and other factors.
Most people would call just before going into the store. I seriously doubt the inventory and "other factors" fluctuate all that much between the time you hang up and the time you get to the store. Mostly I think they tell people to go to the store because the trade-in values are so effin' lousy that the only reason people would even bother with them is if they're already in the store and they "may as well".
> Price also
> depends on condition and completeness.
Which is pretty funny because they charge the same for a game whether it's a scratched up disc only or a gem mint/complete
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| | #23 posted May 6, 2008 at 11:59pm (EDT) |
Everyone should just stop arguing, GameStop sucks PERIOD!
I got 99 problems but a game ain't one | thunderdonkey
| | #24 posted May 7, 2008 at 12:04am (EDT) |
benstylus wrote:
> thunderdonkey wrote:
>> Trade prices aren't quoted on the phone because the values can
> change
>> daily depending on inventory quantity and other factors.
>
> Most people would call just before going into the store. I seriously
> doubt the inventory and "other factors" fluctuate all that much between
> the time you hang up and the time you get to the store. Mostly I
> think they tell people to go to the store because the trade-in values
> are so effin' lousy that the only reason people would even bother
> with them is if they're already in the store and they "may as well".
And since when is it an unusual practice for a company to want customers to actually come into the store? Trade values are only lousy if a customer perceives them that way. Anything that you sell back used depreciates in value over time. Generaly I find them pretty fair. If I'm unhappy with a trade value, I just don't trade it. Pretty simple really. Besides, whatever EB/GS offers is always more than WalMart offers.
>
>> Price also
>> depends on condition and completeness.
>
> Which is pretty funny because they charge the same for a game whether
> it's a scratched up disc only or a gem mint/complete
>
>
True initially, but that scratched up disc only copy will sit on the shelf indefinitely without selling until the store marks it down 6 months later and sells it at a loss. The gem mint complete game will always sell first. Trade values that they offer have to take into account the overall profit that title will generate over the long run.
All companies are in business to make money. Analysts calculate potential profits and determine a price to sell or trade a game at. Taking into account way more factors than a regular joe like us are aware of. It's the way economics works. | benstylus
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| #25 posted May 7, 2008 at 12:30am (EDT)
edited May 7, 2008 at 12:32am (EDT) |
thunderdonkey wrote:
> benstylus wrote:
>> thunderdonkey wrote:
> |>> Trade prices aren't quoted on the phone because the values can
>> change
> |>> daily depending on inventory quantity and other factors.
>>
>> Most people would call just before going into the store. I seriously
>> doubt the inventory and "other factors" fluctuate all that much
> between
>> the time you hang up and the time you get to the store. Mostly
> I
>> think they tell people to go to the store because the trade-in
> values
>> are so effin' lousy that the only reason people would even bother
>> with them is if they're already in the store and they "may as well".
>
>
> And since when is it an unusual practice for a company to want customers
> to actually come into the store?
That's not unusual - the unusual thing is how Gamestop does it.
Most stores lure you in by advertising great prices - Gamestop tries to do it by saying they'll only tell you the price if you come in.
Because they know if they tell you over the phone you'll just get pissed and hang up. At least when you're in the store, there's the chance you'll get pissed and say "FINE. What a ripoff, I can't believe I'm doing this".
> Trade values are only lousy if a
> customer perceives them that way. Anything that you sell back used
> depreciates in value over time. Generaly I find them pretty fair.
You must be new to the whole internet thing then.
Trade-in values are lousy in comparison to what you could get selling it yourself. When they're giving $25 credit for a new release game, you can probably with minimal effort drop it here for $45 or ebay for $50,
> If I'm unhappy with a trade value, I just don't trade it. Pretty
> simple really. Besides, whatever EB/GS offers is always more than
> WalMart offers.
Walmart is irrelevant to this discussion, as they have a completely different business model. You'd be better off comparing GS to a store that actually accepts game trade-ins - something like GameCrazy or eStarland or something. And of course for the people willing to put 10 minutes of work into it, the value of their games magically double compared to the trade-in price when they list them here, on ebay, or on craigslist.
> All companies are in business to make money. Analysts calculate potential
> profits and determine a price to sell or trade a game at. Taking
> into account way more factors than a regular joe like us are aware
> of. It's the way economics works.
Yes, that's why I don't often complain about their trade in values - because they take in just about everything, even if it's going to sit on a shelf for years. They may only pay $25-$30 for a new release, but all the $2 sports games they buy just keep piling up.
I got a hundred other problems with the company and the way it runs (and especially the way it treats its employees and in turn the customer). Trade-in values are really a non-issue for me since I've got the intelligence not to take my used games there.
Also, just curious, but why are you so bent on defending Gamestop?
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| #26 posted May 7, 2008 at 12:34am (EDT)
edited May 7, 2008 at 12:36am (EDT) |
My favorite EB/Gameslop/Funcoclone story is seeing on several occasions a couple of years ago used copies going more than for new. On one occasion I commented about it and they said there was nothing they (the local manager) could do about it. Those prices are set by headquarters.
This has also happened to me at Gamecrazy's, but each time I pointed out the issue they adjusted the price. In some instances, I have found the same used game for two different prices (but still below new) in same relative condition.
Seems that managers at Blockbusters are able to manage (or mismanage) more than the Clones can.
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| | #27 posted May 7, 2008 at 12:52am (EDT) |
DR_SPOCK wrote:
> Yeah dude, everyone here hates EB/Gamestop.
>
>
It's fudging true.
 | seanner
| | #28 posted May 7, 2008 at 1:13am (EDT) |
Then you haven't been to EB in Canada, I can trade Outlaw Golf(Xbox), Shrek 2(PS2) and Halo 2 for a new release game any time I want, you can find those three games for under $20 if you look and there are many other games like those that are eligible for EB's Trade 3 deal. I haven't bought a new release anywhere else since EB started offering the Trade 3 two years ago. | DR_SPOCK
| | #29 posted May 7, 2008 at 1:30am (EDT) |
Forgotten_Freshness wrote:
> DR_SPOCK wrote:
>> Yeah dude, everyone here hates EB/Gamestop.
>>
>>
>
> It's fudging true.
I'm going to visit your store some day asking for a DS with custom casing and a fancy carrying case.
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| #30 posted May 7, 2008 at 2:33am (EDT)
edited May 7, 2008 at 2:33am (EDT) |
Gamestop does suck, but crappy trade in values are how they stay in business. I used to have a few game stores that gave you a decent value for your games, but then everyone would come in and trade games and never buy anything and the store couldn't pay rent. Eventually, they all went under. You have to keep in mind that when Gamestop already has 50 copies of Tony Hawk 3 and you want to trade yours in they are not going to value it the same as a store(or individual) that only has one copy, especially when it will sit on the shelf forever until someone's grandma randomly buys it for x-mas. This way you have the option of trading in, but you do need to spend SOME money in order to get some newer games. I'd say the only good thing about them is they take games noone else wants.....who else am I going to trade copies of madden 2004 to? If the store has a sale going on such as trade in 5 games and get an extra 10 dollars it could turn into some nice profit for me. Their employees do suck though.....all the ones in my area(we have 4 within like a 5 mile radius) are snobby as hell. EB CAN be dumb on prices.....I myself have seen them sell new games cheaper than the old ones plenty of times. In fact, I remember when I bought Rome Total War Gold edition they were selling the expansion by itself for the same price as the gold edition that included both the expansion and the original....wtf? Thundermonkey is right though....if you don't like it just don't go. | TripleElbow
| | #31 posted May 7, 2008 at 2:50am (EDT) |
I'm still surprised at Gamestop's continued success though. A substantial percentage of their profits come from used game sales and IIRC those profits keep increasing. You would think that online trading/selling via craigslist/amazon/ebay/etc. + the poor service and lousy trade values would have hurt their revenues even a little by now. | kirauzumaki
| | #32 posted May 7, 2008 at 3:50am (EDT) |
look these stores only suck if your a rube, you can just as easily take advantage of them as they do of you, well not quite, but ive got enough gems from them at bargain bin prices, so eh
besides game crazy sucks, the employees are worse than at gamestop, the have a really small selection, there discount card cost like 15 bucks, there games are in a lot shoddier condition
btw if you want to rip off gamestop you do know all you need is your gamestop number, so you can buy one card for yourself and all your friends and get the ten percent discount, and if you do it using the slip in the game informer magazine, you can even get the card for 2 bucks | AlphakirA
 
| | #33 posted May 7, 2008 at 6:15am (EDT) |
Forgotten_Freshness wrote:
> DR_SPOCK wrote:
>> Yeah dude, everyone here hates EB/Gamestop.
>>
>>
>
> It's fudging true.
>
>
>
Rent from me!! | dtp11
| | #34 posted May 7, 2008 at 8:20am (EDT) |
buffduff wrote:
> At least you don't have to send first.....that would just ruin everything
> for you. Luckily, I can just trade here and not deal with EB.
Are you proud of yourself? Did you think that up all on your own? Give yourself a pat on the back. And go eat a cookie, you deserve one. | dtp11
| | #35 posted May 7, 2008 at 8:23am (EDT) |
CHECKMATE wrote:
> dtp = mewtwo. a canadian who wall of texts all the time, there can
> be only one.
Sweet, I'll be mewtwo.
And as for walls of text - maybe if your took a break from playing pokemon for 30 minutes or so a day, your eyes and brain might be able to handle reading a few paragraphs. | dtp11
| | #36 posted May 7, 2008 at 8:25am (EDT) |
DR_SPOCK wrote:
> Yeah dude, everyone here hates EB/Gamestop.
>
>
You'd like to think that wouldn't you? Well there are always some idiots trying to defend it, so no, unfortunately not everyone hates EB/Gamestop. | dtp11
| | #37 posted May 7, 2008 at 8:41am (EDT) |
benstylus wrote:
> dtp11 wrote:
>> They are a disgrace to the Game Developers as well in many ways.
> There
>> are numerous accounts from former EB employees on the internet
> about
>> how they were trained to encourage customers to buy a used copy
> of
>> a game instead of a new one because it's cheaper just so EB can
> get
>> all the profit off the game they paid someone $2 for in a trade-in
>> (among many other things they are trained to do). Meanwhile the
> Game
>> Developers suffer who worked so hard to bring that game to you
> in
>> the first place.
>
> MULTIPLE CHOICE TIME!!!
>
> If developers were really that upset and hurt by this, they would
> stop doing which of the following:
>
> A - giving Gamestop any allocation of new product, and let them try
> to subsist on used game trade-ins alone.
> B - giving Gamestop cool exclusives and preorder bonuses.
> C - linking from their official site to Gamestop's site when you click
> to purchase their game
>
> Since they are still doing all the above, and have not made a public
> plea urging people NOT to buy from Gamestop, then there is one logical
> conclusion one can come to from this:
>
> Developers are not significantly upset nor hurt by Gamestop's tactics.
>
> And if they are not upset nor hurt by Gamestop's tactics, then that
> means Gamestop must be earning the developers bucketloads of money.
>
> And do you know what a lot of people who trade in their old games
> do? They trade them towards (you guessed it) PREORDERS FOR NEW GAMES!
>
>
> I think it's quite clear that Gamestop does not have a purely parasitic
> relationship with the game industry.
>
Good point, but I don't see any "multiple choice" in your reply!
The key word in your reply was "significantly". They (the game developers) aren't significantly upset, but yet they still ARE upset.
Of course, they aren't upset enough to go cold turkey and cut off all their games because EB is still huge and that would of course lose them more money than EB is losing for them. I guarantee they don't like what EB does though.
Who's idea is it to make it illegal to trade-in games at EB in some cities or jurisdictions? I don't think city council's sit there and talk about this unless game developers were upset about it.
Obviously EB isn't crippling game developers, but they're still hurting them. | AlphakirA
| | #38 posted May 7, 2008 at 9:12am (EDT) |
Wow. That's a lot of non-editing.
And a lot of bitterness.
Rent from me!! | HungryWolf
| | #39 posted May 7, 2008 at 9:23am (EDT) |
I like Gamestop/EB.
wah wah, their business practices suck. Who fudging cares. Go there to buy games, not complain that they'll give you a penny for your used copy of Madden 2001. They actually had a special trade-in thing where you traded in two next gen games and you would get 10 additional bucks. I traded in a bunch of crappy games, as well as two of my friends, and together we got about 500-600 bucks. I was happy with what I got. Stop doging. | AlphakirA
| | #40 posted May 7, 2008 at 9:27am (EDT) |
Why would anyone from this site ever trade a game to Gamestop unless they either need credit immediately or they found a loophole (buy at place x for $10, trade for $20, etc.)? They're just overall terrible.
Rent from me!! | | |
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