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CenturionElite
  
| | #1 posted May 15, 2008 at 2:15pm (EDT) |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080515/ap_on_re_us/hi...
HMMMM....
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_kate_
 
| | #2 posted May 15, 2008 at 2:17pm (EDT) |
Since he's HIV-positive it can fairly easily be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he had malicious intent to spread the infection.
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John
 
 
| | #3 posted May 15, 2008 at 2:41pm (EDT) |
It is an interesting situation though. Because, as far as I know, most experts still maintain that HIV cannot be passed via saliva, right?
If it can't -- then arguing that his saliva was a "deadly weapon" is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?
Plus, intent might be an issue. This guy was drunk -- I think he spit on the cop because he was an idiot -- not because he thought about the HIV. Maybe not though -- hard to say. But I'm not sure he ever had the conscious thought that he was going to try to put some HIV into someone else. I'm not sure the intent was there. Crazy stuff though.
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam |
thegill321
 
| | #4 posted May 15, 2008 at 2:45pm (EDT) |
atleast he wont be anyones dog while hes on the inside |
DR_SPOCK
 
| | #5 posted May 15, 2008 at 2:47pm (EDT) |
thegill321 wrote:
> atleast he wont be anyones dog while hes on the inside
Every cloud has a silver lining!
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kzn
 
(frozen)
| | #6 posted May 15, 2008 at 5:41pm (EDT) |
Umm...that's wacked.
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vDub
 
| | #7 posted May 15, 2008 at 7:21pm (EDT) |
John wrote:
> Plus, intent might be an issue. This guy was drunk -- I think he
> spit on the cop because he was an idiot -- not because he thought
> about the HIV. Maybe not though -- hard to say. But I'm not sure
> he ever had the conscious thought that he was going to try to put
> some HIV into someone else. I'm not sure the intent was there. Crazy
> stuff though.
>
HIV has been found at low concentrations in the saliva, tears and urine of infected individuals, but there are no recorded cases of infection by these secretions and the potential risk of transmission is negligible
HIV
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Jeffro
| | #8 posted May 15, 2008 at 7:43pm (EDT) |
Good, people that spit anything but loogies whilst sick should be put in jail for the same amount of years.
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MTeVil
| | #9 posted May 15, 2008 at 8:58pm (EDT) |
I was gonna make a " well, at least they didn't give him the death sentence" joke but there are just to many laws that protect the police. the second amendment is in place for a reason; so no one gets too arrogant, yet we have forgotten that aspect. The cop should have to prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that the man intended to cause him harm (because from what i read he was just drunk) but also that he himself is now HIV+ due to this exchange. it's also funny/sad to think that this man gets access to some decent medical care (free prison medical care) whilst the officer, if indeed infected, may not. |
John
| | #10 posted May 15, 2008 at 9:31pm (EDT) |
If the cop now had HIV, then they would have charged him with something closer to murder instead of just use of a deadly weapon.
And, the officer isn't infected. I guarantee it. There isn't any cases of someone getting infected via saliva -- I doubt that this will be the first one.
That is why I was saying before that it is a bit odd to call the guy's spit a "deadly weapon" since, as far as we know, HIV simply cannot be transmitted via saliva by spitting on someone.
Maybe if there was blood in the HIV guy's mouth and a huge open sore in the cop's mount -- then MAYBE. But, even that being said, we have no cases of this ever happening.
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam |
DefaultGen
| | #11 posted May 15, 2008 at 9:44pm (EDT) |
Lol cops like this.
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MTeVil
| | #12 posted May 15, 2008 at 11:38pm (EDT) |
John wrote:
> If the cop now had HIV, then they would have charged him with something
> closer to murder instead of just use of a deadly weapon.
>
> And, the officer isn't infected. I guarantee it. There isn't any
> cases of someone getting infected via saliva -- I doubt that this
> will be the first one.
>
> That is why I was saying before that it is a bit odd to call the guy's
> spit a "deadly weapon" since, as far as we know, HIV simply cannot
> be transmitted via saliva by spitting on someone.
>
> Maybe if there was blood in the HIV guy's mouth and a huge open sore
> in the cop's mount -- then MAYBE. But, even that being said, we have
> no cases of this ever happening.
>
i didn't mean to come off as if i was disagreeing with you, just meant to point out just how ludicrous this is. |
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