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AlphakirA
  
 
| #1 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:07am (EST)
edited October 9, 2008 at 6:09am (EST) |
How is it that this story was never brought up? The first I heard about it was tonight driving home from work. Is this true or did they find this to be fake?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselect...
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"The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be more different than that of the Democratic contender.
"No-one knows who I am," he told the magazine, before claiming: "I live here on less than a dollar a month."
According to Italy's Vanity Fair his two metre by three metre shack is decorated with football posters of the Italian football giants AC Milan and Inter, as well as a calendar showing exotic beaches of the world.
Vanity Fair also noted that he had a front page newspaper picture of his famous brother - born of the same father as him, Barack Hussein Obama, but to a different mother, named only as Jael.
He told the magazine: "I live like a recluse, no-one knows I exist."
Embarrassed by his penury, he said that he does not does not mention his famous half-brother in conversation.
"If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related. I am ashamed," he said.
For ten years George Obama lived rough. However he now hopes to try to sort his life out by starting a course at a local technical college.
He has only met his famous older brother twice - once when he was just five and the last time in 2006 when Senator Obama was on a tour of East Africa and visited Nairobi.
The Illinois senator mentions his brother in his autobiography, describing him in just one passing paragraph as a "beautiful boy with a rounded head".
Of their second meeting, George Obama said: "It was very brief, we spoke for just a few minutes. It was like meeting a complete stranger."
George added he was no longer in contact with his mother and said:"I have had to learn to live and take what I need.
"Huruma is a tough place, last January during the elections there was rioting and six people were hacked to death. The police don't even arrest you they just shoot you.
"I have seen two of my friends killed. I have scars from defending myself with my fists. I am good with my fists."
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CoachMcGuirk
 
| | #2 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:26am (EST) |
Crap like this is why I don't play the lottery.... imagine winning a couple hundred million. Then everyone you know (and some you don't, or at least don't remember) comes out of the woodwork. |
AlphakirA
| | #3 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:36am (EST) |
Well, Obama has met him before and has photos with him, it's not like the guy appeared out of thin air. Obama's just never made an effort to contact his brother (apparently). On 3 cents a day I don't think the brother had much of an ability to do the same.
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CoachMcGuirk
| | #4 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:47am (EST) |
I dunno... it just always seems like whenever someone tries to get out there and make a name for themselves, someone else in their life (in this case, a half-brother) inadvertently is hampering his effort.
Obama's dad is Kenyan, correct? Then it's not really that surprising he has someone related to him that lives in poverty, given the fact that an overwhelming majority of the entire continent of Africa lives in poverty, at least in relation to the average US citizen. |
AlphakirA
| | #5 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:52am (EST) |
This story is probably completely skewed, I'm just surprised I haven't heard much about it.
But yeah, I have the same fear about winning the lotto; I worked at Best Buy 4-5 years ago, and though it wasn't nearly the same as winning the lottery, you had to see how many "friends" I hadn't spoke to in years found out the employee discount was incredible and found out that I worked there. Phone calls left and right like we had spoken everyday for the last 20 years...
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thatonedude
 
| #6 posted October 9, 2008 at 10:58am (EST)
edited October 9, 2008 at 10:59am (EST) |
It's not really that weird if there's any truth in this story. I have never met my biological father, he impregnated my mother, moved to Texas shortly after and never interjected himself in our life in anyway. My mother married a man, who I consider my father, when I was two and I have 4 half-sisters and a half-brother who I consider my sisters and brother. I have not known anyone else as my family, so they are my family. For a time I worked as a skiptracer for a collections company and ran a search on him and found he married and I have two other half-brothers and another half-sister. I have no desire to meet or make myself a part of my their life at all. It would just be strange. |
AlphakirA
| | #7 posted October 9, 2008 at 2:27pm (EST) |
I have a half sister, and if I found that out now and hadn't known her all these years, I'd look for her. If she were making 3 cents an hour, I'd send her a few hundred bucks. Different strokes for different folks. But a millionaire vs 3 cents an hour? Yeah....well, at least he cares about you right?
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stubby
 
| | #8 posted October 9, 2008 at 3:12pm (EST) |
I don't think Obama has any obligation, moral or otherwise, to support this man. There is no way to know how any of us would feel in this situation. |
DR_SPOCK
| | #9 posted October 9, 2008 at 3:46pm (EST) |
stubby wrote:
> I don't think Obama has any obligation, moral or otherwise, to support
> this man.
Yeah. Also: "beautiful boy with a rounded head". haha
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Chad
| | #10 posted October 9, 2008 at 4:59pm (EST) |
just sounds strange to me that a man who supposedly cares about the common man would let his own blood live on 3 cents a day. |
DR_SPOCK
| | #11 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:02pm (EST) |
They're complete strangers, makes sense to me.
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Chad
| | #12 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:11pm (EST) |
i bet obama never even gives bums change. in fact, i think i heard he routinely beats and murders panhandlers and robs them. |
DR_SPOCK
| | #13 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:14pm (EST) |
There was a video of an Obama bum beating on Youtube but it was pulled. Conspiracy???
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stubby
| | #14 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:15pm (EST) |
I've actually heard that too. I'm anti-panhandler so it's a positive for me. |
DR_SPOCK
| | #15 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:15pm (EST) |
I'm OK with panhandlers so long as they're actually holding pans. Anything less and they're just posers.
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Chad
| | #16 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:20pm (EST) |
i always give bums with dogs money. but not regular bums. |
jaric
 
| | #17 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:21pm (EST) |
But I've seen some guys try to hold pans, but they just can't seem to handle them. I still give them some change because I think their attempt justifies something in return.
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thatonedude
| | #18 posted October 9, 2008 at 5:28pm (EST) |
Live in Chicago, walk your regular routes and see the same 'bums' with the same stories and you will quickly learn you are not making a difference, only furthering their alcoholism. I've had 'bums' shove their cup in my face and demand 'Put a penny in the cup, honkey.' Dude was wearing nicer shoes than I was. I've learned to see them approaching, quickly hold out my hand and ask for a dollar and tell them I need it because I just lost my job. That always gets them riled up. |
AlphakirA
| | #19 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:17pm (EST) |
See, a real democrat would give them foodstamps that they can resell for alcohol. What kind of democrat are you Brian?!
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DR_SPOCK
| | #20 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:24pm (EST) |
I don't know why people are in the positions they're in. Many get crap on. Many make mistakes. There is this notion that every bum is either a junkie or an alcoholic, but I'm not about to make that assumption. I've never seen a bum wearing nicer clothes than me. So yes, I sometimes give money or food to bums.
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AlphakirA
| | #21 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:26pm (EST) |
I never give money when I'm in NYC, but I'll offer to buy em a hotdog from one of the vendors. I don't think I've run into a bum yet that hasn't taken me up on the offer. The only bums I wouldn't give jack to is the ones on the boardwalk in Atlantic City.
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Chad
| | #22 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:29pm (EST) |
i pay bums for sex. |
stubby
| | #23 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:31pm (EST) |
Really? They usually pay me.
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Chad
| | #24 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:32pm (EST) |
with what, cigarette butts and empty beer bottles? |
stubby
| | #25 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:34pm (EST) |
I didn't say I was expensive. |
Chad
| | #26 posted October 9, 2008 at 6:39pm (EST) |
cuz thats what i pay them. why dont we just cut out the middleman and ill pay you cig butts and empty bottles for sex? |
stubby
| | #27 posted October 9, 2008 at 10:59pm (EST) |
Done and done! |
Chad
| | #28 posted October 9, 2008 at 11:00pm (EST) |
.... OK, YOU CALLED MY BLUFF. GOOD FOR YOU. NOW LEAVE ME ALONE. |
DummyP
 
| | #29 posted October 9, 2008 at 11:08pm (EST) |
I haven't been watching the news lately. Are we still screwed?
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AlphakirA
| | #30 posted October 9, 2008 at 11:10pm (EST) |
Spoiler yeah  kinda. |
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DummyP
| | #31 posted October 9, 2008 at 11:25pm (EST) |
Awesome.
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thatonedude
| #32 posted October 10, 2008 at 2:45pm (EST)
edited October 10, 2008 at 2:48pm (EST) |
AlphakirA wrote:
> See, a real democrat would give them foodstamps that they can resell
> for alcohol. What kind of democrat are you Brian?!
I guess that explains why I don't give, I'm a independent. And all the bums in Chicago are either crackheads, alcoholics or scammers... only tourist gives these pukes anything. On top of that these people have already used up their gov't assistance on booze and crack and are spanging for more... explaining why you see them more in the latter half of each month. |
DefaultGen
 
| | #33 posted October 10, 2008 at 3:01pm (EST) |
AlphakirA wrote:
> For ten years George Obama lived rough. However he now hopes to try
> to sort his life out by starting a course at a local technical college.
>
Ehh? 3 cents a day but he's gonna be a college prof? Some standards they must have there.
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SmarmySir
| | #34 posted October 10, 2008 at 3:50pm (EST) |
DefaultGen wrote:
> AlphakirA wrote:
>> For ten years George Obama lived rough. However he now hopes to
> try
>> to sort his life out by starting a course at a local technical
> college.
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> Ehh? 3 cents a day but he's gonna be a college prof? Some standards
> they must have there.
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I'm pretty sure "starting a course" means that he will begin to take classes. Stop trying to read and make another podcast.
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Sheesh
| | #35 posted October 10, 2008 at 4:43pm (EST) |
Honest bums are the bomb. I give money to the ones that honesty say, "Need money for beer".
Fudge those that say they want money for food - for those folks I buy an extra bean burrito and give them that.
Interesting the "homeless corridor" here on the west coast. Many appear to travel from Seattle down to San Diego, migrating with the seasons. Lots end up in the Central Valley of CA where they can eat from and sleep in the orchards, and where they have easy access to urban areas for pan handling and blood letting for cash.
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stubby
| | #36 posted October 10, 2008 at 4:45pm (EST) |
It turns out this story may have been misleading...
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_br... |
AlphakirA
| | #37 posted October 10, 2008 at 4:46pm (EST) |
CptBurnout wrote:
> AlphakirA wrote:
>> See, a real democrat would give them foodstamps that they can resell
>> for alcohol. What kind of democrat are you Brian?!
>
> I guess that explains why I don't give, I'm a independent. And all
> the bums in Chicago are either crackheads, alcoholics or scammers...
> only tourist gives these pukes anything. On top of that these people
> have already used up their gov't assistance on booze and crack and
> are spanging for more... explaining why you see them more in the latter
> half of each month.
That's not very nice, your candidate isn't an alcoholic.
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thatonedude
| | #38 posted October 10, 2008 at 5:01pm (EST) |
AlphakirA wrote:
> That's not very nice, your candidate isn't an alcoholic.
Obama lost my respect at the FISA vote. I'd vote for a 3rd party candidate, but I still believe Obama > McCain.
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AlphakirA
| | #39 posted October 10, 2008 at 5:04pm (EST) |
That doesn't mean you should vote for Obama. There's likely 5-6 others running; a true independent will vote for one of them (or kzn).
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thatonedude
| | #40 posted October 10, 2008 at 5:06pm (EST) |
AlphakirA wrote:
> That doesn't mean you should vote for Obama. There's likely 5-6 others
> running; a true independent will vote for one of them (or kzn).
A true independent does what the fudge he wants. |
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