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#1 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:55am (EST)  

 

This topic had many older posts which were moved here:

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#2 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:55am (EST)  

they are different kinds of movies.
Dark Knight is more thought out and dramatic, but Iron Man is just more fun.
Besides them both being comic book movies, you can't compare them.
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#3 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:59am (EST)  

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#4 posted December 20, 2008 at 1:45am (EST)  

Yes Man - 8/10 - Classic Carrey. Laughs all around.  * grin *

Shoot 'Em Up - 9/10 - It's not every day you see a non-stop action movie where guys get killed with a carrot.

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#5 posted December 20, 2008 at 3:23am (EST)  

A/k/a Tommy Chong - 8/10
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#6 posted December 20, 2008 at 7:11am (EST)  

vDub wrote:
> Yes Man - 8/10 - Classic Carrey. Laughs all around.  * grin *
>

So it is safe to say that if I've never enjoyed a Jim Carrey movie, I won't enjoy this one either??
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#7 posted December 20, 2008 at 8:40am (EST)  

Probably not.

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#8 posted December 20, 2008 at 11:00am (EST)  

boova wrote:
> Dark Knight is more thought out and dramatic, but Iron
> Man is just more fun.

Dramatic ill give you, but it was a poorly executed film from start to finish. Almost like they new Ledger was going to die so his spirit could carry TDK.

They just need to make the Batman movies R-rated and quit fudging around, the editing during scenes that would lead to gore got me more irritated than anything else.








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#9 posted December 20, 2008 at 11:37am (EST)  

I had no problem with the gore. I thought the movie was dark enough that it didn't need an R rating.
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#10 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:10pm (EST)  

Give us a Batman vs. Predator movie with no holds barred. Predator skins Alfred and hangs him in the batcave


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#11 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:27pm (EST)  

Jeffro wrote:
> Yeah, I didnt believe you at first, but now I see the light. Iron
> Man is much better overall.
>

Nope.

Iron Man is a one-time movie watching experience. You can't just pop in and play Iron Man without having to fast forward through the entire first half of the movie... b/c once you've seen the movie already, upon the second or third time watching, it's tedious watching the Tony Stark exposition.

Dark Knight opens with action and suspense and either has one of the following elements in every scene:

1. action
2. joker
3. amazing acting
4. gary oldman and/or 2-face


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#12 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:32pm (EST)  

I agree with those saying Iron Man is better. It has

1. Style
2. RDJ
3. amazing acting (and no terrible Batman voice)
4. Cool effects
5. Humor

I'll agree The Dark Knight has the better villain but, that's where it's being superior ends. I've watched Iron Man numerous times and still dig it each time. I'll probably watch The Dark Knight multiple times too but even on the first at home watch it had lost some of it's flair.





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#13 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:33pm (EST)  

I'm gonna have to agree with Lino here.
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#14 posted December 20, 2008 at 12:56pm (EST)  

PeteKelly wrote:
> I agree with those saying Iron Man is better. It has
>
> 1. Style

I disagree completely. If anyone has style it's Batman. Iron Man looks like any other movie, it looks like the new Hulk or any summer movie. The lighting and cinematography in Dark Knight is superb. There's a mood with Dark Knight, Iron Man just looks like your typical summer blockbuster.

> 2. RDJ

 * yes *

(that's one)

> 3. amazing acting (and no terrible Batman voice)

"amazing?" It's got RDJ and we already gave you a point for that one.

> 4. Cool effects

They both have cool effects, canceling each other out.

> 5. Humor

okay, that's two!



Iron Man is great for what it was. I think Dark Knight is timeless, tho.


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#15 posted December 20, 2008 at 1:39pm (EST)  

regardless of whose side you are on (i rate dark knight just ahead of iron man myself but batman is also my favorite comic hero  * cool smile * ) who would have thought we could ever say two comic movie are even worthy of rating highly? and the DC versus Marvel thing makes it all the sweeter. of course once Marvel really gets the ball rolling with the Avengers arc it will be Game-Set-Match!

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#16 posted December 20, 2008 at 1:56pm (EST)  

sin city, 300, v for vendetta were already awesome comic book movies.
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#17 posted December 20, 2008 at 2:06pm (EST)  

knighthawk wrote:
> regardless of whose side you are on (i rate dark knight just ahead
> of iron man myself but batman is also my favorite comic hero  * cool smile * )
> who would have thought we could ever say two comic movie are even
> worthy of rating highly? and the DC versus Marvel thing makes it all
> the sweeter. of course once Marvel really gets the ball rolling with
> the Avengers arc it will be Game-Set-Match!
>

Unless they mess up casting for Captain America/Thor, etc.

They already messed up with Nick fury imo, making him Sam jackson. Should have stuck with the older Nick Fury. As well they are supposdly going for the " ultimate" looks to all the people, which are imo some of the worst ones.

Thor - Vladimir Kulich deserves this role (He played the main viking guy in 13th Warrior, he looks like the part, he can act the part, and he's huge) however the " ultimate" thor is much younger.
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#18 posted December 20, 2008 at 2:13pm (EST)  

Shouldnt they get the main bad guy/Viking from Pathfinder to play him? I dont even know what he's suppose to look like, never read the comic.






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#19 posted December 20, 2008 at 2:21pm (EST)  

thor = HHH.
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#20 posted December 20, 2008 at 3:06pm (EST)  

You guys forget that the reason why comic movies are relatively "fresh" all of a sudden, after the success of Spiderman.............. was because they were usually lame as fudge previously.

An avengers movie sounds like it's gonna be more of the same, rather than something you haven't seen before. If a talented director like Bryan Singer could fudge up the xmen movies (they were ok, at best) and butcher Superman Returns with that budget, then I wouldn't get my hopes up for anything marvel-related.

btw, I've read Frank Miller's The Spirit is one of the worst movies ever made, they likened it to watching battlefield earth


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#21 posted December 20, 2008 at 3:19pm (EST)  

I would never call Bryan Singer talented, if he was he would of stayed the fudge away from those two IPs and waited for a million more re-writes 'til they got something more competant.






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#22 posted December 20, 2008 at 4:27pm (EST)  

 * laughing out loud * you may be right


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#23 posted December 20, 2008 at 4:42pm (EST)  

Dark Knight is the CRAP. Jeffro, upon his return to the site, is GAY.

'NUFF SAID.

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#24 posted December 20, 2008 at 5:54pm (EST)  

Your cursing has gotten out of control young man. I pitty the fool that doesnt see TDK's terrible structure, "hey, I'm the JOKER and I all the sudden pop out of nowhere due to the transporter Gene Roddenbarry gave me!!!!", "Hey, I'm Batman and he gave me one to, RAWR!!!" "hey, Harvey Dent here, hook a brotha up Gene! We'll milk your dead body for everything it's worth too."

Anywhooo,

Funny Games-no score- I would honestly rather see children die extremely slowly through various ways of being exposed to the AIDS virus. I only finished it because all the razors in the house are too dull for my liking






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#25 posted December 20, 2008 at 6:02pm (EST)  

Hahaha, that's pretty funny. I still hate you, though, lost brother...

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#26 posted December 20, 2008 at 6:06pm (EST)  

 * broken heart * I knew it would happen sooner or later






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#27 posted December 20, 2008 at 6:15pm (EST)  

PeteKelly wrote:
> Give us a Batman vs. Predator movie with no holds barred. Predator
> skins Alfred and hangs him in the batcave


Not quite what you're hoping for, but a decent attempt by some amateurs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZVp9NFhQE
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#28 posted December 20, 2008 at 9:07pm (EST)  

Sneakers -- I remembered it being a lot better when I was a kid. Still a decent movie, but not the best heist movie like I remembered it. 7/10.
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#29 posted December 20, 2008 at 11:29pm (EST)  

The Abyss-9/10-Wow, didnt remember liking this as much when I was younger. Really great sci-fi flick, just what I was in the mood for. Only bad thing was that I had to watch it on Netlfix so it looked like crap, sounded amazing on my PC setup though.






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#30 posted December 21, 2008 at 12:13am (EST)  

You're all wrong. Only Gigli has style. All other movies are fluff.

 
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#31 posted December 21, 2008 at 12:26am (EST)  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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#32 posted December 21, 2008 at 12:02pm (EST)  

Lino wrote:
> PeteKelly wrote:
>> I agree with those saying Iron Man is better. It has
>>
>> 1. Style
>
> I disagree completely. If anyone has style it's Batman. Iron Man looks
> like any other movie, it looks like the new Hulk or any summer movie.
> The lighting and cinematography in Dark Knight is superb. There's
> a mood with Dark Knight, Iron Man just looks like your typical summer
> blockbuster.
>
>> 2. RDJ
>
>  * yes *
>
> (that's one)
>
>> 3. amazing acting (and no terrible Batman voice)
>
> "amazing?" It's got RDJ and we already gave you a point for that one.
>
>> 4. Cool effects
>
> They both have cool effects, canceling each other out.
>
>> 5. Humor
>
> okay, that's two!
>
>
>
> Iron Man is great for what it was. I think Dark Knight is timeless,
> tho.
>
>
>

You make a good argument. Part of my mentioning of effects is how much more of a personality Iron Mans suit has than Batmans. I'm not dissing The Dark Knight by any means I just don't see myself watching it as much as Iron Man. The mood is great and Ledger did a good job and suprised the hell out of me. I didn't think he could pull it off. Christian Bale is a great actor but in The Dark Knight I didn't really feel that way. I thought he kinda just sleepwalked through. Whereas RDJ (which you've given props too so I know there's no argument on him being badass in the role) really pushed the character and did so well that I can't imagine anyone else having pulled this off as well.

Different strokes for different folks though. As someone else already said, let's just agree we got ourselves a badass comic movie package this year. These two movies are some of the best comic movies ever in my opinion.


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#33 posted December 21, 2008 at 12:05pm (EST)  

Chad wrote:
> thor = HHH.

He completely looks the part. Problem is, can he carry a whole movie? I could see him playing Thor in just an Avengers movie where he doesn't have to do much acting or anything too much more than kicking ass but they're wanting a Thor feature film. With the standards that comic movies like Iron Man and The Dark Knight have set people expect a little more out of these movies nowadays. I actually agree he'd completely fit the physical description and they probably should just leave Thor as a character in Avengers and go ahead and cast him but, I don't think they will.
Who do ya think for Captain America?

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#34 posted December 21, 2008 at 12:20pm (EST)  

Jensen Ackles would make a good younger captain america imo.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/

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#35 posted December 21, 2008 at 12:47pm (EST)  

hm.. not bad. Definately better than the ones I've heard people mention. Paul Walker, Matthew Mconaughey

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#36 posted December 21, 2008 at 3:10pm (EST)  

cap isnt supposed to be some stringy dog, hes supposed to be the peak of humanity.

not sure if he would be best for cap, but http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004770/ would play some comic book characters.
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#37 posted December 21, 2008 at 4:23pm (EST)  

Aside from not being able to act, yeah, he'd be perfect.

Did you ever see Valentine? Not good.

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#38 posted December 21, 2008 at 4:37pm (EST)  

Or every other show he's ever been in.

But yeah, Cap'n America needs to be thicker than that other dude.






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#39 posted December 21, 2008 at 5:09pm (EST)  

Captain America isn't that "big," especially compared to other super heroes.

It's not that he's extremely huge, but rather that he's very fit. At least that's how I remember him in the older comics. As well doing some quick googling yeah, he's not that big imo. If Hugh Jaackman can play wolverine I don't see the deal with a fairly normally fit person playing Captain America.
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#40 posted December 21, 2008 at 7:08pm (EST)  

hugh jackman sucked as wolverine. i wanted a midget playing him.
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