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Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #1 posted December 28, 2007 at 4:02pm (EST) |
Which Card is better?
EVGA 8600GT- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
XFX 8600GT- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
They are pretty much identical. Just let me know what you think. thanks |
sjword
(abandoned)
| | #2 posted December 28, 2007 at 4:28pm (EST) |
They're the exact same specs. I'd go with EVGA, personally, because I've used their cards before with no problems. Brand preference will win... |
Richie
  
 
| | #3 posted December 28, 2007 at 4:57pm (EST) |
Either one would be fine. I've owned cards from both brands without issue.
I would probably at least go with an 8600GTS, though, if you can squeeze another 20 bucks or so into your card budget:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...
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weissvulf
 
| | #4 posted December 28, 2007 at 8:13pm (EST) |
I noticed the XFX has a limited lifetime warranty compared to the EVGA's 1 year. I'd go with the XFX for that reason, but read the warranty's fine print first to make sure. |
xxjohnyrottenxx
(abandoned)
| | #5 posted December 28, 2007 at 10:46pm (EST) |
The card is the exact same thing. The onl differince will be the cooling device. I would look at the two fans, and also reasearch if either have had overheating issues or really loud fans. Other than that I would go with the cheaper of the two. |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #6 posted December 28, 2007 at 11:26pm (EST) |
MSI 8600GTS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
This is a better card, but do u think it is worth buying this over the XFX and EVGA cards? |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #7 posted December 28, 2007 at 11:35pm (EST) |
one more to think about
PNY 8600GT- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
Let me know which of the 4 you think is worth getting
XFX 8600GT- 109.00
EVGA 8600GT- 109.00
MSI 8600GTS- 139.99
PNY 8600GT- 149.99 |
Richie
| | #8 posted December 28, 2007 at 11:51pm (EST) |
Personally, I'd go with the MSI 8600GTS since it's $120 after a $20 mail in rebate and the 10~ difference between
that and either of the 8600GTs would be worth it.
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MyAlterEgo
(frozen)
| | #9 posted December 29, 2007 at 12:04am (EST) |
The GTS is a waste of money. Get the XFX 8600GT, it's great.
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sjword
(abandoned)
| | #10 posted December 29, 2007 at 12:31am (EST) |
The real question is whether or not you will be using DX10.0 (or need it) anytime soon? If not, save yourself ~50.00 and go for a 7900GS. I have one and they're amazing for overclocking. You'll get better performance (although lack the direct x 10.00 support) out of the 7900GS. |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #11 posted December 29, 2007 at 11:50am (EST) |
MyAlterEgo do u think the fan on the xfx 8600GT is loud?
sjword do u have a website link for a good 7900GS? |
MyAlterEgo
(frozen)
| | #12 posted December 29, 2007 at 12:38pm (EST) |
Well, the fan in the XFX 8600GT is loud enough for you to notice it, but not enough to distract you from using the computer or whatever.
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Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #13 posted December 29, 2007 at 3:54pm (EST) |
sjword all the 7900GS's ive seen are 150 and higher. do u kno a site where they are cheaper? |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #14 posted December 29, 2007 at 3:57pm (EST) |
Also MyAlterEgo wat games do u play with the xfx 8600GT? Does it run them on high settings? |
MyAlterEgo
(frozen)
| | #15 posted December 29, 2007 at 4:01pm (EST) |
I don't play too many games on my computer anymore, but it runs Counter-Strike Source on all high at 1440x900 smoothly at a high frames per second. I tried the Bioshock demo on 1440x900 and on medium-high and it ran pretty smooth.
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sjword
(abandoned)
| | #16 posted December 29, 2007 at 5:16pm (EST) |
Sure, here you go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PNY-NVIDIA-GEFORCE-7900GS-...
http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-PNY-nVidia-GeForce-7...
http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-PV-T71P-UDF3-Geforce-7900G...
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-EVGA-Nvidia-GEFORCE-7900GS...
I believe all of those are new as well. All around 90-100.00. |
Dio69
(abandoned)
| | #17 posted December 29, 2007 at 8:15pm (EST) |
i have had past experience with XFX. used an 6800xt for a long time with no problems. Nvidia's drivers worked well |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #18 posted December 29, 2007 at 11:31pm (EST) |
what the biggest thing to look at when buying a video card? is it the memory or the clock rate or something else thats most important in giving fast fps and ability to play games on high settings? |
MyAlterEgo
(frozen)
| | #19 posted December 30, 2007 at 12:35pm (EST) |
I don't in specific what to look at, as there are many things to factor in to your purchase, but the clock rate is important.
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weissvulf
| #20 posted December 30, 2007 at 2:04pm (EST)
edited December 30, 2007 at 2:08pm (EST) |
Adubs wrote:
> what the biggest thing to look at when buying a video card? is it
> the memory or the clock rate or something else thats most important
> in giving fast fps and ability to play games on high settings?
Though it can vary depending on each specific game's needs, the most important video card stats (from most to least) are VPU speed, memory amount, memory speed.
The video processors (VPU) speed is the most important thing, but unfortunately the higher VPU clock number doesn't always perform faster since there are so many other aspects of chip design that affect its speed. This website has very good info on how common VPUs compare to each other.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?m...
The amount of memory affects speed most when you play games with large, high resolution textures. If you play a game that doesn't use the entire video card's onboard memory (like old 2D games), having more memory won't speed things up at all. But, if the game you are playing maxes out your card's memory, then the frame rates will drop a little since textures will have to be continually juggled in and out of available memory. You can compare the frame rates for 256MB vs 512MB models at the above link too.
Memory speed can affect frame rates a little, but you are far more likely to be 'bottlenecked' by other video card features before memory speed makes a significant impact.
To give a simplified idea of how it works: textures, which are photos just like a JPG or BMP, are loaded from your hard drive into the hidden area of your video card's memory (limited by hard drive speed). The VPU renders a 3D polygon wireframe (VPU speed) and takes texture graphics stored in memory and transfers them (memory speed) to the visible part of your video memory (which is what you see on screen) and wraps the texture graphics around the wireframe. As it applies the texture to the wireframe, the VPU sends the texture through a shader routine which changes the final color of the texture to give the impression of lighting affects. Turning shadows off usually gives a big frame rate boost when your VPU is bottlenecked. Your computer's main processor usually takes care of physics calculations etc.
The bottom line is, there are so many variables that you can't really compare a card based on its numbers so it's best to just look up each cards performance online.
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Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #21 posted December 30, 2007 at 5:14pm (EST) |
thanks weissvulf. that helps a lot. weissvulf do u have a video card and also an opinion on a good video card? |
SSA
| | #22 posted December 30, 2007 at 6:46pm (EST) |
I currently have an XFX 8600GT xxx edition, and it's been the best video card I've had yet, and I had a 7600 EVGA before that. |
Ravaged
| | #23 posted December 30, 2007 at 7:19pm (EST) |
I currently own an XFX 7600gt XXX (whatever that means) and it has been working like a charm since I got it. Most of the games I run on it run very well at high settings. I have yet to try games like Bioshock but will eventually get around to that and I'm sure it will be able to handle it at fine settings. Seeing as everything besides the Ram and GPU on my computer are stock Compaq (including the 350w power supply) I'm really surprised how well it runs everything. The best way to find the card that's right for you is to do the research and make your own conclusions based on that. |
antwaan
 
| | #24 posted December 31, 2007 at 12:41am (EST) |
xfx and evga are both great |
weissvulf
| | #25 posted December 31, 2007 at 3:20am (EST) |
Adubs wrote:
> do u have a video card
> and also an opinion on a good video card?
Like many other people here, I try to buy cards from the
high-end of last generation (around a Nvidia 7950 or ATI x1950) because they
tend to be so much cheaper relative to their performance.
I recently bought a BFG 7900GTX because it significantly out
performs the 8600GTS but cost me less and I like BFG's lifetime warranty. :) |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #26 posted January 2, 2008 at 3:42pm (EST) |
How would a 7900GS work with vista? would it still be good even without the directx10? |
Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #27 posted January 2, 2008 at 3:44pm (EST) |
also weissvulf where did u get your bfj 7900GTX? how much was it? |
weissvulf
| | #28 posted January 3, 2008 at 3:14pm (EST) |
I got mine off ebay for $130.
Here's one that's currently listed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BFG-7900-GTX-OC-PCI-Express-51...
You can buy the card directly from BFG for $200:
http://www.bfgstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?Product...
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Adubs
(abandoned)
| | #29 posted January 6, 2008 at 7:21pm (EST) |
sjword or anybody with a 7900GS, what kind of games can they play and on what settings? What kind of fps does it get on world of warcraft. thats the game ive been playing and i want to know how a 7900GS would work on it. |
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