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willyum
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#1 posted May 7, 2008 at 11:46pm (EDT)  

 

I had a conversation w/ a co-worker the other day, and we got to talking about WinXP and Windows Vista. Then he asked me what the difference was between Vista and Vista Ultimate edition. I said the price tag, and assumed that the Ultimate edition probably had features that were either turned off or non-existant in the other editions. Then he said that he had heard that the Windows Media Player in the Vista Ultimate edition could play movies from Xbox discs. That then, is my question for this topic:

Can Xbox discs be played (movie-wise) in Windows Vista Ultimate?

My inclination is to say, no, since I'd think that Microsoft would want to avoid the possibility of someone coming up w/ an Xbox emulator based on some functionality that they provided in their OS.


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#2 posted May 8, 2008 at 12:41am (EDT)  

No, they can't Vista ultimate has a bunch of features, that it.


willyum
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#3 posted May 8, 2008 at 12:42am (EDT)  

That's what I thought.


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#4 posted May 8, 2008 at 2:37am (EDT)  

Look at it this way, that's just one more way for MS to get "ripped" off, do you think they would do it?


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#5 posted May 8, 2008 at 2:09pm (EDT)  

My thoughts exactly.


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#6 posted May 8, 2008 at 4:59pm (EDT)  

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsv...

Under "More Entertaining" it says:

"Take Windows Media Center to the next level and enjoy all of your digital entertainment on TVs throughout your home (not just in the room where your PC resides) with support for Xbox 360..."

What's Microsoft saying here? That Windows Media Center can support Xbox 360? Or that a TV that's connected to a PC w/ Windows Media Center can support an Xbox 360? (To which one says: duh! A TV is used for Xbox 360 output.)



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#7 posted May 8, 2008 at 5:54pm (EDT)  

You will be able to play music from your PC on your 360 through the media center on your 360. That's not even an exclusive feature to ultimate. I have it with Home Premium.


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#8 posted May 8, 2008 at 6:23pm (EDT)  

I see. Thanks for the info. *yes*


xxjohnyrottenxx


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#9 posted May 10, 2008 at 12:45am (EDT)  

The differince between Ultimate and Home Premium are very small. Ultimate has remote desktop and Premium does not. Ultimate has data back up encryption and Premium does not. Ultimate has, but I have never seen it work, device failure notice(supposedly it will tell you when a part is starting to fail) and Premium does not. Ultimate also has Texas Hold 'em as a game, and Premium does not. The last thing is Ultimate has "Ultimate Extras" update. I uninstalled it a couple months back, but as of then the only Ultimate Extra was hold 'em.
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#10 posted May 10, 2008 at 9:47am (EDT)  

Thanks for the info. xxjohnyrottenxx. It kinda looks like Ultimate was just another Microsoft marketing ploy...


xxjohnyrottenxx


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#11 posted May 11, 2008 at 1:16am (EDT)  

PS You do not need a media center PC to stream media to your x-box any longer. It is actually better if you do not as in media center you need transcode 360 to play divx files, but if you use the new feature on the x-box 360(last big x-box update) you can play divx straight from the xbox.
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#12 posted May 12, 2008 at 3:47pm (EDT)  

Another difference is the RAM limitations in the 64-bit versions: 128GB for Ultimate, 16GB for Home Premium (Home Basic is 8GB). Of course, all 32-bit Windows, whether Vista or XP, are limited to barely 3GB of RAM access.
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#13 posted May 13, 2008 at 8:56am (EDT)  

Vista Ultimate isn't really worth buying unless you have an awesome PC and like having all the bells and whistles. You could get away with owning Home Premium. I'm running Ultimate and even though my PC isn't that great, I can still run it w/o too many problems. The only reason I have it in the first place is because I bought it from someone on CAG for $120

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#14 posted May 13, 2008 at 9:14am (EDT)  

Texas Hold'em is the only difference I noticed *frown*


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#15 posted May 13, 2008 at 9:50am (EDT)  

there's also a couple new sound schemes and DreamScene, which allows you to have an animated background.

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#16 posted May 13, 2008 at 10:30am (EDT)
edited May 13, 2008 at 10:30am (EDT)  

So how is Vista in your opinion? My two older sisters and my younger bro have it on their computers (2 laptops and a desktop), and don't have good things to say about it. From my limited experience, it seems as if Vista is a bit slow and cumbersome. But that may just be because everything was moved around, so time must be spent to find where everything is. I guess Microsoft likes to get us used to one OS, and then move everything for the next OS, so they can produce books of tips and such.


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#17 posted May 13, 2008 at 10:42am (EDT)  

IMO, I'm enjoying Vista. I really haven't had any major problems with it (just some minor things) but if you're satisfied with XP, stick with it.

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#18 posted May 13, 2008 at 10:54am (EDT)  

I just upgraded to Vista about a week ago and I am also enjoying it. I dont have any problems at all with it.






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#19 posted May 13, 2008 at 2:57pm (EDT)  

Cool, cool. I plan on sticking w/ XP, but I'm pretty sure down the line I'll need to upgrade to Vista.


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#20 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:13pm (EDT)  

I doubt anyone will ever need to upgrade to Vista. *raspberry*

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#21 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:40pm (EDT)  

If you ever want to use DirectX 10, you will. *smile*
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#22 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:54pm (EDT)  

I'm assuming that Fable 2 will one day be ported to the PC, and when it is, will require Vista.


xxjohnyrottenxx


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#23 posted May 16, 2008 at 9:51pm (EDT)
edited May 16, 2008 at 10:01pm (EDT)  

vDub wrote:
> I doubt anyone will ever need to upgrade to Vista. *raspberry*
>
>

Yeah as someone touched on about DX10 this is not entirely true. Not only will you need to go to Vista, but to Vista 64 bit to really use it. Some other reasons you may want to upgrade are: As some one else said ooodddles of memory. 189GB in 64...but no matter what you do in XP it is really hard to ever push 3GBs. Some hard ware that is coming out may never be used if you do not go to 64. These 1GB vid cards are useless in a 32bit environment. You will only read 512mb. A lot of the quad core and SLI advancements are only being supported by Vista or Vista 64, so if you are an upgrade addict like myself you will have to upgrade to utilize it. Last but not least it looks pretty. I was running Vista Ultimate 64 bit on my PC for a while, and Crysis and COD4 looked awesome when they did not crash. The entire OS, all colors are more vivid and you can see more detail. Kind of like the difference between SD and HD TV. The problem of course is how much slower Vista is, flaky crashes that remind me of ME, and still some driver conflicts/3rd party software will not work. At work I use the following analogy "Vista is like a super hot girl...Great to look at, but a nightmare to interact it with."
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#24 posted May 17, 2008 at 12:24pm (EDT)  

> "Vista is like a super hot girl...Great to look at, but a nightmare to interact it with."

That's an excellent analogy! *yes* Although I personally don't know any super hot girls...but I get the picture.

But what's this about Microsoft possibly unveiling a Windows next year???


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#25 posted May 17, 2008 at 2:05pm (EDT)  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

willyum
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#26 posted May 18, 2008 at 9:58am (EDT)  

Interesting....





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