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SteveAllen
  
| | #1 posted September 19, 2008 at 3:38pm (EST) |
I just ordered the parts to my new PC and would like to tri-boot XP, Vista, and a build of Linux. Anyone have any good information on doing this or any reference sites? Thanks in advance!! |
RagingShadow07
 
 
| #2 posted September 19, 2008 at 3:42pm (EST)
edited September 19, 2008 at 3:44pm (EST) |
I'd actually like to know about this too. When I get my computer done I'd like to try this out as well... What I'd do is install Vista, then when in that, partition the hard drive into 3 partitions, then back out, install XP, then back out and install Linux and have GRUB as the boot manager since it'll show all the OS. I think that would work but I've never tried using 2 Windows OS on the same computer so I have no idea.
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Master_Z
  
| | #3 posted September 19, 2008 at 4:09pm (EST) |
Hi. My laptop has Vista Home Premium, XP Home, and Ubuntu 8.04 in a triple boot. Pop in the Vista disc, make two partitions, and install Vista. Install XP on the other partition. You might have to use a program like easybce or vistabootpro to renable the Vista bootloader. Now download wubi and use it to download and install Ubuntu Linux. The guy above's idea should work too. |
SteveAllen
| | #4 posted September 19, 2008 at 4:13pm (EST) |
Hey guys I found this tutorial that might be useful as well...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220452 |
SteveAllen
| | #5 posted September 19, 2008 at 4:13pm (EST) |
My only confusion is the above only lists minimum partition sizes. I just bought a 750 GB drive so I'd like to partition the drives quite a bit larger (but I dont know how much is necessary!) |
RagingShadow07
| #6 posted September 19, 2008 at 4:22pm (EST)
edited September 19, 2008 at 4:23pm (EST) |
SteveAllen wrote:
> My only confusion is the above only lists minimum partition sizes.
> I just bought a 750 GB drive so I'd like to partition the drives
> quite a bit larger (but I dont know how much is necessary!)
Vista uses basically 15GB for the OS itself. So I say at least 100GB. XP uses like 5 I think. Ubuntu can run off of a flash drive if you needed it to. You could go 250/250/250 but I say go 400 for Vista for gaming, 250 for XP for whatever else and 100 for Linux. I don't think you'd be using that much for Linux.
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sandpaperback
 
| | #7 posted September 19, 2008 at 11:42pm (EST) |
If you're going to be storing photos, music and video, I'd suggest a fourth partition just for those. Format it to FAT32 so that all three OSes can read and write to it. This would also be the best place to store documents as well.
I'd go with a setup like: 200GB for Vista, 150GB for XP, 50GB for Linux, and the rest for your shared partition.
Really it will depend on which OS you're likely to use most and what you're using it for. |
DefaultGen
 
| | #8 posted September 20, 2008 at 3:09am (EST) |
Don't fudge up your partitions because Vista does some stupid crap at the tail end of your partition that doesn't let you resize it (If you use Gparted you'll screw up your Windows installation)
I tri-booted for a whlie, then just stuck with TinyXP Rev09, the only OS worth anyone's time.
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RagingShadow07
| | #9 posted September 20, 2008 at 4:36am (EST) |
Yeah, to re-size a Vista partition you have to totally delete and format it first. That's why I said install Vista then make partitions with it in the OS to save time and headaches.
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DefaultGen
| #10 posted September 20, 2008 at 4:58am (EST)
edited September 20, 2008 at 4:59am (EST) |
Why do you want to install Vista anyway? The lulz? That's the only response I ever hear from people. That and "but, but it's bettar with SP1 and teh problems are gon!! But teh Navajo experiment!!" It's just an OS that runs slower than XP (however slightly you want to point out... it runs SLOWER!), kills power user features, and contains horrid incompatibilities. If I want to use an OS that breaks my favorite Alarm clock software, my USB keyboard, and Homeworld 2, I'll switch to Vista.
I mean if you have some valid reason I'd love to hear it like for DX10 games or for 8GB of RAM, I'm just curious, and obviously an XP fanboy 
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RagingShadow07
| | #11 posted September 20, 2008 at 5:26am (EST) |
I've had Vista since a couple of months after launch and haven't had any problems with it. Compatibility wizard actually does help... Vista runs faster for me than XP did when I had it on my old laptop. I hated XP. SP1 came out like 2 months ago and I'm too lazy to upgrade to it, and I'm still not having any problems. People just hate Vista because they've never tried it,  .
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sandpaperback
| | #12 posted September 20, 2008 at 9:21am (EST) |
Default, you led me to MicroXP which looks like the bees knees. Thanks!
With a WINDOWS folder that is only 199Mb and a CD size of just 99.9Mb,
this has to be one of the smallest Windows XP installations out there. |
millenium_dare
| | #13 posted September 20, 2008 at 10:05am (EST) |
DefaultGen wrote:
> Why do you want to install Vista anyway? The lulz? That's the only
> response I ever hear from people. That and "but, but it's bettar
> with SP1 and teh problems are gon!! But teh Navajo experiment!!"
> It's just an OS that runs slower than XP (however slightly you want
> to point out... it runs SLOWER!), kills power user features, and contains
> horrid incompatibilities. If I want to use an OS that breaks my favorite
> Alarm clock software, my USB keyboard, and Homeworld 2, I'll switch
> to Vista.
>
> I mean if you have some valid reason I'd love to hear it like for
> DX10 games or for 8GB of RAM, I'm just curious, and obviously an XP
> fanboy
>
>
XP is old, it was slower than all other incarnations of Windows before it and it also had major compatibility issues before the Service Packs. Windows Vista had the same problems, but now it's a fully functioning OS with excellent security, a beautiful GUI and many new features like ReadyBoost, DX10 compatibility, instant search, etc.
btw, what Power User features are you missing? The only thing I can't seem to do is convert to the logon screen to the network type....
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SteveAllen
| | #14 posted September 20, 2008 at 1:01pm (EST) |
Well since I built a decently powerful computer (E4000 Processor (3.0 DC), EVGA 9600GT SSC Video Card, 4 GB RAM) I want to be able to run the latest games. I am also able to get Vista for $70 from the school. I do know the version of Vista I can buy is the business one so I assume it will still play DX10 games and such.. correct? I will mainly be using Ubuntu/XP but I figure I may as well pick up Vista since it is reasonably priced. |
knighthawk
| | #15 posted September 20, 2008 at 1:13pm (EST) |
SteveAllen wrote:
> I do know the version of Vista I can buy is the business one so I
> assume it will still play DX10 games and such.. correct? I will mainly
> be using Ubuntu/XP but I figure I may as well pick up Vista since
> it is reasonably priced.
correct. i figure i will do the same for when a game i really want to play is DX10 only. which probably wont be for another year or maybe more...
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willyum
 
| | #16 posted September 20, 2008 at 2:47pm (EST) |
TinyXP? Is that one of those WinXP hacks floating around on the net? How well does it run?
 |
SteveAllen
| | #17 posted September 20, 2008 at 2:57pm (EST) |
Has anyone ever bought a student edition of Vista? I tried calling and asking my school if after I install once, will I be able to install again (incase my hdd fails or something) and they just said they don't know. I understand you can only put it on one computer but what if something happens and I need to reinstall will I be able to do this? I don't want to spend $70 then mess something up trying to Tri-Boot and not be able to install Vista again.. |
RagingShadow07
| | #18 posted September 20, 2008 at 3:15pm (EST) |
Student edition is OEM. Meaning if you change the motherboard, you can't re-install. But you can install it unlimited times as long as you have that board. I think, anyways, as that's how it works with OEM.
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SteveAllen
| | #19 posted September 20, 2008 at 3:44pm (EST) |
Well I found out some more information on it and the site says after June 2010, the OS will no longer work. I may just need to try and find a deal on an OEM version of Vista somewhere else... any ideas? |
RagingShadow07
| | #20 posted September 20, 2008 at 3:51pm (EST) |
Newegg has Vista Premium for 100 shipped OEM. 64 or 32 bit, your choice. Vista basic is 90, Buisness is 130, Ultimate is 170.
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sandpaperback
| | #21 posted September 20, 2008 at 7:37pm (EST) |
RagingShadow07 wrote:
> Student edition is OEM. Meaning if you change the motherboard, you
> can't re-install. But you can install it unlimited times as long as
> you have that board. I think, anyways, as that's how it works with
> OEM.
>
That's completely false. Unless you meant "can't" as in "not supposed to", then it MIGHT be true, but I still don't think so. The student editions are not OEM discs, they are student discs. There is absolutely no difference as far as functionality goes. I got XP Pro for $12 when I was in school and have installed it many times over on several computers as I upgraded. |
RagingShadow07
| | #22 posted September 20, 2008 at 7:42pm (EST) |
Oh, my bad. I thought they would be something like OEM discs. Didn't know.
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SteveAllen
| | #23 posted September 23, 2008 at 6:01pm (EST) |
Well I got all of the parts to my computer but unfortunately it is more complicated to assemble than I thought. This just so happens to be my busiest week yet of homework too so I haven't got a chance to play around with it. Can anyone recommend me a really detailed site for putting this together? I'm sure I'll eventually figure it out but first Ill need to find a few free hours to play around with it! I should also be recieving Vista this week so maybe by the weekend I'll be back with a success story of Tri booting (and assembling the computer lol). |
SteveAllen
| #24 posted September 23, 2008 at 10:12pm (EST)
edited September 23, 2008 at 11:48pm (EST) |
edit: Got it up and running! |
Master_Z
| | #25 posted September 27, 2008 at 10:25am (EST) |
Good job! I hope all goes well. |
HeyNow
| | #26 posted September 29, 2008 at 6:08pm (EST) |
Hey Millenium_Dare, if you're looking to have to press CTRL-ALT-DEL to logon in Vista. Goto Administrative Tools/Local Security Policy, expand the Local Policies Tab and select Security Options. Look for: Interactive Logon: Do Not Require CTRL+ALT+DEL double click on that bad boy select properties and set it to Disabled. |
SteveAllen
| | #27 posted September 29, 2008 at 6:43pm (EST) |
I have mine dual booted now (XP/Vista) but I can't get Ubuntu to recognize my Sata drive. I can change it to legacy drivers but then Windows doesn't recognize the drive anymore. Anyone know what builds/versions of Linux support SATA HDDs? |
HeyNow
| | #28 posted September 29, 2008 at 6:50pm (EST) |
I have SATA on my laptop running Vista and Ubuntu (ver. 8.04.1 x86) |
HeyNow
| | #29 posted September 29, 2008 at 6:53pm (EST) |
also you could run Ubuntu in something like VMWare from within you Windows environment. |
SteveAllen
| | #30 posted September 29, 2008 at 7:23pm (EST) |
HeyNow wrote:
> I have SATA on my laptop running Vista and Ubuntu (ver. 8.04.1 x86)
Is that a really new build? I have 8.04 but I dont know if the .1 at the end makes a difference. I really don't want to VM Ubuntu out of Windows... I'd rather VM Windows out of Ubuntu (since the OS is more stable). |
HeyNow
| | #31 posted September 29, 2008 at 7:38pm (EST) |
Sure is here's a d/l link straight from the site:
http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/hardy/ubu...
hope it helps. |
millenium_dare
| | #32 posted September 29, 2008 at 9:48pm (EST) |
Thanks HeyNow, that was exactly what I wanted 
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HeyNow
| | #33 posted September 30, 2008 at 8:32am (EST) |
glad to hear it millenium. |
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