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_kate_
  
| | #1 posted April 24, 2008 at 9:29am (EDT) |
This is something that's only been on my mind for the last few days now, but I would like to get some opions.
I was just wondering...where do I stand in the trading community? I mean, I've been here for almost two years and I've never had a bad trade, but at the same time I've only completed a handful of trades and a couple of those were new-to-new user trades that technically should not have happened. I also spend a lot of time in the forums, and have recently been making the effort to help out new site users given the recent string of terrible trades that resulted in BTRs and people getting ripped off, but that still leaves me in a grey area.
So basically, where do I stand as a trader? I haven't traded enough to technically build a trade reputation, but I feel that in being a regular presence in the forums I have built up somewhat of a report despite the fact that some would say its value is trivial.
As such, I'd like to know what you guys think. Thanks.
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John
 
 
| | #2 posted April 24, 2008 at 10:03am (EDT) |
I think people that know you because they use the forums a lot would have no problems trading with you and would know that things would be fine. But, if someone that does not read the forums much initiates a trade, then you look a bit "new" to them -- because you don't even have a star yet.
So, where you "stand" depends on if people know you. I think that there are quite a few users that never really use the forums and just trade here that we don't think about much. For those people, I could see them expecting you to send first and such because you don't have an established "trading" reputation -- even though you have an established "actual" reputation.
My 2c.
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam |
_kate_
| | #3 posted April 24, 2008 at 10:07am (EDT) |
That's a really excellent way to look at it, because there are indeed a lot of users that don't use the forums (whose opinions I will openly admit I wasn't taking into consideration when I was thinking about this). Then again, I'd never ask anyone with a larger trade history to send first anyway.
Thanks for your opinion. 
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Iced
  
| | #4 posted April 24, 2008 at 10:18am (EDT) |
Plus you're a woman with breasts, so I'm sure a lot of established male traders on here would send same time. I mean after all, if we're nice to you on this site, maybe you'll sleep with us someday?
Ahh, the cold, harsh mentality of GameTZ.
But in all seriousness I agree with what John said in that I would send same time with you just because I know you from the forums; I likely wouldn't even notice your lack of stars (I actually just noticed). |
mmm40x
 
| | #5 posted April 24, 2008 at 10:51am (EDT) |
John said everything I thought. I think that once you get more trades under your belt you will make an excellent mentor. |
Admiral
 
| | #6 posted April 24, 2008 at 11:09am (EDT) |
You're pretty much a nobody. Get over it.
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Noltillian
  
| | #7 posted April 24, 2008 at 4:27pm (EDT) |
I've been here for 3 1/2 years, I have a silver star, and I have 100% feedback. It bugs me quite a bit when some noob comes in and gets a gold star in 2 months with less than stellar feedback and then expects me to send first. Screw that!
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_kate_
| | #8 posted April 24, 2008 at 5:26pm (EDT) |
Thanks for your opinions, and Noltillian, I have to agree there. Seniority should could for something when you're a starred trader.
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gameplayer9
| | #9 posted April 24, 2008 at 5:44pm (EDT) |
well thats me, I've got my gold star in less then 3 months, (thank you) but I do want to say that it kind of matters if you have a star cause that means your more of an respectable trader, sorry kate, dont want to sound mean
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act stupid forum |
_kate_
| #10 posted April 24, 2008 at 6:02pm (EDT)
edited April 24, 2008 at 6:04pm (EDT) |
Oh, you're not being mean at all. You make a completely valid point. What I meant was that starred traders who had been here for a long time should have their seniority to fall back on sometimes depending on how new the user with the higher number of trades is.
Someone like myself is still technically an inexperienced trader, and of course, even having been here as long as I have, if I had a trade pending with someone like yourself, I'd be sending first. That's only fair.
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willyum
 
| | #11 posted April 24, 2008 at 8:22pm (EDT) |
I think John said it best; you've been on the forums for a long time, and so the people who frequent the forums would probably be willing to vouch for you. Plus, you helped out with the sig generator, right? That's an automatic +5 kudos points.
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Yamas
| | #12 posted April 24, 2008 at 9:51pm (EDT) |
Yeah, I do trust you, but if we traded, I would still ask you to send first,simply cause of the fact that you have few trades. There have been several examples of people who have many trades and are well known who just go bad (Crazy eights).
mackey wrote:
> One day you'll see the trade: bill gets: $50 Walmart
> Gift Card, BoB gets: GameTZ.
Check out the GameTZ Freebie Forum |
Admiral
| | #13 posted April 25, 2008 at 12:43am (EDT) |
Maybe we need a plaque or icon that stays for people that have been here past a certain amount of time...instead of just the anniversary plaque.
Oh, and congrats on y yrs Willyum |
Xena
| | #14 posted April 25, 2008 at 12:46am (EDT) |
Admiral wrote:
> Maybe we need a plaque or icon that stays for people that have been
> here past a certain amount of time...instead of just the anniversary
> plaque.
i agree.
Visit the Guild Wars Forum |
willyum
| | #15 posted April 25, 2008 at 12:50am (EDT) |
Thanks! I completely forgot! Woo-hoo! 7 yrs and counting!
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Y2k
 
| | #16 posted April 25, 2008 at 5:39am (EDT) |
Like Johm said, it really depends on who you are dealing with. People who are familiar and comfortable with you in the forums probably wouldn't stress too much over it, but people who aren't familiar might. Also, many traders are extremely anal about # of trades being the only deciding factor to them. Less sends first regardless kind of mentality......these being some with hundreds of trades insisting a user with 20 less trades should send first.
Realistically, you haven't demonstrated many completed trades. Community involvement shouldn't be ignored, but the majority of users on the site don't go through the forums or chat. Everything they know is based on what they see on your page when they decide to look at it. Frankly, I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone with significantly more trades than you to send first or same time with you because you post a lot on the boards.
That said, I'd be more likely to send same time with you than I would some starred users based on their history, bad trade report collection, cancelled trades, flakiness, etc. For myself, I really don't need the headache of wondering about getting screwed around anymore or be expected to wait months for them to come up with $3 shipping money because of some 'family emergency' that won't allow them to ship a package but still let them be on here 24/7. I really don't care about my trade count anymore. I'm only in this to get things I can't get around here or get a good deal on things.
Y2k's Graf-X Shoppe
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_kate_
| | #17 posted April 25, 2008 at 8:00am (EDT) |
Johm.
Joooooohm.
Johmnomnomnomnomnomnom.
Sorry, I just woke up. Hahaha. Aaaaanyway...
Willyum, congrats on seven years, man! That's a lot.
I sincerely appreciate everyone's open and level-headed feedback on this topic. It was simply one of those obscure things that was bugging me, and I couldn't seem to kick a valid answer into my own head. I appreciate all of the positive things that have been said, and feel better informed in regards to my own presence within the community.
Thanks guys!
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John
| #18 posted April 25, 2008 at 8:16am (EDT)
edited April 25, 2008 at 8:16am (EDT) |
_kate_ wrote:
> Johm.
>
> Joooooohm.
>
> Johmnomnomnomnomnomnom.
>
>
>
> Sorry, I just woke up.
So, you were saying my name in your sleep? Got ya.
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam |
_kate_
| | #19 posted April 25, 2008 at 8:33am (EDT) |
-facepalm-
All right, Smartass. You win this round...
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John
| | #20 posted April 25, 2008 at 10:03am (EDT) |
If you were dreaming about me, then you won too, my friend! 
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam |
kzn
| | #21 posted April 25, 2008 at 11:36am (EDT) |
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Uuaww
| | #22 posted April 25, 2008 at 12:38pm (EDT) |
you already missed the glory days of gametz when Bill ruled with an iron fist. The site may or may not be less active than it was before. All I know is that trades seem to be harder and harder to come by now and days. |
bill
| #23 posted April 25, 2008 at 1:07pm (EDT)
edited April 25, 2008 at 1:07pm (EDT) |
my fist got rusty
you're probably making less trades because your list is small and full of old crap no one wants (no offense)
GameTZ overall has been enjoying a sustained higher-than-normal trades-per-day count. It has been consistently over 60 trades per day for months now, with some days popping up over 100 per day. In the past, 50 trade per day or less was more common. |
Shadowchemist
| | #24 posted April 25, 2008 at 1:08pm (EDT) |
Bill meant to offend you a bit. |
Grenadier
| | #25 posted April 25, 2008 at 3:46pm (EDT) |
bill wrote:
> GameTZ overall has been enjoying a sustained higher-than-normal
> trades-per-day count. It has been consistently over 60
> trades per day for months now, with some days popping up
> over 100 per day. In the past, 50 trade per day or less
> was more common.
Apples and oranges a little bit there. In the past, we had some different rules regarding what could be counted as a trade. I'm guessing some of that increase could be attributed to the rules change.
Click here to join Goozex and get a free game! |
Uuaww
| | #26 posted April 25, 2008 at 3:52pm (EDT) |
bill wrote:
> my fist got rusty
>
> you're probably making less trades because your list is small and
> full of old crap no one wants (no offense)
>
> GameTZ overall has been enjoying a sustained higher-than-normal trades-per-day
> count. It has been consistently over 60 trades per day for months
> now, with some days popping up over 100 per day. In the past, 50
> trade per day or less was more common.
It is cool, I don't really play video games anymore. |
_kate_
| | #27 posted April 25, 2008 at 4:14pm (EDT) |
bill wrote:
> my fist got rusty
>
> you're probably making less trades because your list is small and
> full of old crap no one wants (no offense)
>
> GameTZ overall has been enjoying a sustained higher-than-normal trades-per-day
> count. It has been consistently over 60 trades per day for months
> now, with some days popping up over 100 per day. In the past, 50
> trade per day or less was more common.
Oh I totally recognize that the stuff presently listed there is crap, lol. I'm planning to actually work on making it not crappy this summer, so in working theory I might actually do some trading.
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kzn
| | #28 posted April 25, 2008 at 5:12pm (EDT) |
Shadowchemist wrote:
> Bill meant to offend you a lot.
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Admiral
| | #29 posted April 26, 2008 at 10:46am (EDT) |
_kate_ wrote:
> bill wrote:
>> my fist got rusty
>>
>> you're probably making less trades because your list is small and
>> full of old crap no one wants (no offense)
>>
>> GameTZ overall has been enjoying a sustained higher-than-normal
> trades-per-day
>> count. It has been consistently over 60 trades per day for months
>> now, with some days popping up over 100 per day. In the past,
> 50
>> trade per day or less was more common.
>
> Oh I totally recognize that the stuff presently listed there is crap,
> lol. I'm planning to actually work on making it not crappy this summer,
> so in working theory I might actually do some trading.
>
>
FWIW, I don't think bill was talking to you |
bill
| | #30 posted April 26, 2008 at 12:27pm (EDT) |
But, I did mean to offend her. |
Admiral
| | #31 posted April 26, 2008 at 12:45pm (EDT) |
Of course! |
Boss
 
| | #32 posted April 28, 2008 at 9:27pm (EDT) |
_kate_ wrote:
> This is something that's only been on my mind for the last few days
> now, but I would like to get some opions.
>
> I was just wondering...where do I stand in the trading community?
> I mean, I've been here for almost two years and I've never had a bad
> trade, but at the same time I've only completed a handful of trades
> and a couple of those were new-to-new user trades that technically
> should not have happened. I also spend a lot of time in the forums,
> and have recently been making the effort to help out new site users
> given the recent string of terrible trades that resulted in BTRs and
> people getting ripped off, but that still leaves me in a grey area.
>
> So basically, where do I stand as a trader? I haven't traded enough
> to technically build a trade reputation, but I feel that in being
> a regular presence in the forums I have built up somewhat of a report
> despite the fact that some would say its value is trivial.
>
> As such, I'd like to know what you guys think. Thanks.
>
>
Your A-ok in my book. |
Richie
 
| | #33 posted April 29, 2008 at 12:54am (EDT) |
If it makes you feel better, kate, you're like pond scum in my book. 
Wait..not pond scum...what's that good stuff?
Oh yeah, bees knees.
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Gonchi
| | #34 posted May 3, 2008 at 4:11pm (EDT) |
bill wrote:
> you're probably making less trades because your list is small and
> full of old crap no one wants (no offense)
Actually, I do want some of their stuff (from Uuaww and Kate), though if their lists are old crap mine must be prehistoric petrified excrement in comparison. I still wrangle the odd trade every couple of months though, so go me!
I personally take into consideration more than just stars when deciding if I should ask for someone to send first or same time. How long someone's been around, if they're subscribers and their ratings all play a factor. Then again, being foreign, I'm lucky enough to find people willing to trade with me at all (prehistoric petrified excrement list notwithstanding)... That aside, I'd trade and send same time to Kate with no worries. It's amazing how well you bond with someone while chucking rockets at one another in Quake. |
_kate_
| | #35 posted May 3, 2008 at 9:02pm (EDT) |
Aww, I miss us playing Quake together. Too bad Mark turned into Captain Emo Pants and took it down because no one wanted to play with him.
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ryanflucas
 
| | #36 posted May 11, 2008 at 2:23pm (EDT) |
_kate_ wrote:
> Aww, I miss us playing Quake together. Too bad Mark turned
> into Captain Emo Pants and took it down because no one wanted
> to play with him.
This can be taken 2 ways. Me not having enough coffee in my system ignored the PG-13 meaning.
Once I get my new computer and get more organized, I'm going to contact you about logo design. I really could use one for my business.
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_kate_
| | #37 posted May 11, 2008 at 3:45pm (EDT) |
ryanflucas wrote:
> This can be taken 2 ways. Me not having enough coffee in my system
> ignored the PG-13 meaning.
Hahaha, oh dear God. Who let you out of your cage today?
> Once I get my new computer and get more organized, I'm going to contact
> you about logo design. I really could use one for my business.
And all right, just let me know and I'll see what I can do. I R DESINE.
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