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John
  
 
| | #1 posted May 13, 2008 at 1:59pm (EDT) |
This isn't a huge deal, but has always bugged me a bit -- especially when I have multiple trades going on.
The Status column of your Pending Trades isn't uniform when it comes to which name is on top. So, if you're just quickly trying to scan through to see that you have sent for all, for example, you have to look for your name. It just seems that the person on the left (the other trader) should always be on top and the person on the right (you) should always be on the bottom (or vice-versa), just so you can easily check all the statuses at once.
To be honest, I wish it was even more obvious than that. I've tried to think of ways to represent everything with icons even. It would just be nice to be able to very quickly glance and see if you've sent everything, which ones would be received, if they have shipped to you, and such -- instead of having to read each status line. I've never really been happy with the way it works now -- the way that it always indicates received status, but only sent half the time (because it never says "not sent"). I think it makes it hard to know quickly -- you have to read every one to really know.
So, I'd really like to see it more uniform. My original suggestion here is just a "quick and easy" one, I think. But, truth be told, I'd really like to see that column redone to make it much more easily and quickly checkable to see if each person has sent or received...
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam | bill
  
| | #2 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:30pm (EDT) |
This sounded familiar, so I did a search and found a topic you made in October 2004 that gets into this:
http://gametz.com/forum/Site_Feedback/topic/173942...
At post #8 you mention the ordering thing, and I said "OK, I made it sort like that..."
So, did things regress. Or, did I not actually fix it? Or, did I fix it in one place, but not the other? | bill
| | #3 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:32pm (EDT) |
Can you give me a link to a page that shows the inconsistent ordering? | John
| | #4 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:46pm (EDT) |
Sure. Check out the pending trades of new user sherwood3570.
The first two have sherwood on top -- then the next three have him on the bottom.
If you're trying to easily scan what has been done by yourself, for example, it jumps back and forth. (I only have one pending right now, or I'd be able to show you on mine since that is where I normally care about it most).
And, as I said, even when they are in the same order (i.e. I can find myself on top every time), it still isn't a great view, methinks.
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam | John
| | #5 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:48pm (EDT) |
But, yes, looking at the old thread -- it looks like I did explain that having yourself in the same position each time made sense -- and you said that you did it in #9 -- and then I seemed to acknowledge it. So, my guess would be that, yes, somehow, it has regressed.
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam | bill
| | #6 posted May 13, 2008 at 3:59pm (EDT) |
I think I understand... and I looked at the code. The sorting happens for your own pendings, but not when you're looking at someone else's.
The code is something like: if (user viewing page = trader2) then show trader2's status first, else show trader1 first (trader1 is who pended the trade).
So, it's just not doing it when you look at someone else's page. But, it would do it for your own pendings. | bill
| | #7 posted May 13, 2008 at 4:07pm (EDT) |
Actually, it would sort if you looked at someone else's page, but only if you are the other trader and it would put you first (which is probably not what you wanted).
It may be tricky to get the code to put the user whose page you are viewing first... the function that prints the status doesn't know that info. Also, the function is used for cases where there is no specific user being viewed. I'm not sure what all the cases are of it being called, but the function that uses this status function has an option userid. It's not always set.
But, I'm not sure how important it is to you, since it does work when you're viewing you're own pendings, just not when you're viewing someone else's. | bill
| | #8 posted May 13, 2008 at 4:11pm (EDT) |
I'd certainly consider icons too... or maybe just highlighting/bolding if the status is indicating that you need to send. Though, I guess that could get a little fuzzy, given various states of a trade. If the other guy is sending first, then you not having sent you is OK. This is a little tricky as well because the offer record keeps trade of who sends first and the trade keeps track of who has sent/received. But, it should be possible. I may already be looking up the offer to get info to show the trade.
I think this got talked about in some other context. Maybe it was Raisin? He wanted the site to tell him when he still has stuff to send out. Though, I think people thought it was a bad idea because they thought traders should be able to track that themselves or something like that. | John
| | #9 posted May 13, 2008 at 4:17pm (EDT) |
Ok -- if it does it when I look at mine, then that's probably good.
Although, it came up because of the new newbie pending thing -- I wanted to be able to to quickly see who had sent to the person -- so it would be cool if they were always in the same place.
As far as icons, that'd be great -- but I'd have to give it more thought.
It might help to have a "not sent" message. Right now, there are messages for sent, received, and not received -- but "not sent" just doesn't show. If it showed and was always in the same place, that might make it easier. Not sure -- just seems weird that we don't do "not sent."
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam | bill
| | #10 posted May 13, 2008 at 4:32pm (EDT) |
Sometimes, people never click "sent", but they do send and the other side receives... So, I think the reasoning was that saying "not sent" may cause undue alarm or something like that. | John
| | #11 posted May 13, 2008 at 5:12pm (EDT) |
I don't see it being that significantly different than not marking "received". In fact, if I sent, them not marking received is even more of a concern if it continues to say "not received." That will certainly cause undue alarm or something. 
Sorry, but I just don't buy the idea that we don't put "not sent" because sometimes people send and forget to mark it. 
- John...
"Yes, but people that are quiet shoot up schools.
Do you really want him to own a dog that shoots up a school?"
- Adam |
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