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ChosenWarrior
  
| | #1 posted March 11, 2008 at 5:11pm (EDT) |
What are your opinions on how the they rank the characters this time around, i was surprised by the current melee ranking that ranked Mewtwo last, but pretty much agreed with the list in general |
alexander8
   
| | #2 posted March 11, 2008 at 5:50pm (EDT) |
i like dk's strength in story mode |
Uuaww
 
| | #3 posted March 11, 2008 at 7:59pm (EDT) |
post the melee one if possible, id love to see it. |
ChosenWarrior
| | #4 posted March 11, 2008 at 8:07pm (EDT) |
The current and last Melee Tier list is as follows
1. Fox
2. Falco
3. Sheik
4. Marth
5. Peach
6. Captain Falcon
7. Ice Climbers
8. Samus
9. Dr. Mario
10. Jigglypuff
11. Mario
12. Ganondorf
13. Link
14. Luigi
15. Donkey Kong
16. Roy
17. Young Link
18. Pikachu
19. Yoshi
20. Zelda
21. Mr. Game and Watch
22. Ness
23. Bowser
24. Kirby
25. Pichu
26. Mewtwo
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Windmill
 
| | #5 posted March 12, 2008 at 6:21am (EDT) |
Woah, young link rated BELOW Jigglypuff?
Who the heck decided that list?! How.. HOW?
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Electromax
| | #6 posted March 12, 2008 at 9:37am (EDT) |
jigglypuff's rest was quite the weapon in melee
that's how i beat the giga bowser event  |
sinnie
 
| | #7 posted March 12, 2008 at 10:03am (EDT) |
I could never master Jigglypuff. I'd just hit the combination for him to go to sleep all the time, then get my ass beat.
s i n n i e
http://www.ephiny.net |
Electromax
| | #8 posted March 12, 2008 at 11:29am (EDT) |
i tended to rollout off the stage a lot. but when you hit rest right on someone and one hit KO'd them, it felt great.
his "go to sleep" move is an instant kill if you do it while touching someone. well, not even touching, you have to essentially be right "on" them, with the centers of your collision boxes as close as possible. basically if you hit someone while jiggly's center of mass is on them, they'll say goodbye |
mentalpowers
 
| | #9 posted March 12, 2008 at 11:32am (EDT) |
Jigglypuff's sleep isn't actually an instant KO, at least with handicaps on.
It is a great move though. I use it quite frequently against a friends that spams Kirby's down b move (the stone/weight); I just shield, walk toward him as he comes out of the move, and sleep for the kill. Jumping or falling into someone as Jigglypuff is the best way to use that move.
I'm shocked that Mewtwo is ranked below Pichu. |
ChosenWarrior
| | #10 posted March 12, 2008 at 11:34am (EDT) |
You have to understand this is a list of the characters after they are mastered, i was surprised to see Roy have such a big gap from Marth and the list is arguable it has been changed like 8 times give or take. You cant argue with the top 3 though, after mastered they are almost cheap. Link can be considered the average character as he is right in the middle. I have to argue that Mewtwo is better than to be the worst character |
GreenCard200
| | #11 posted March 19, 2008 at 11:37am (EDT) |
I thought it would be Fox, Shiek, Marth, Falco and I don't see why Mewtwo is last either. |
Corona
| | #12 posted March 19, 2008 at 12:02pm (EDT) |
I bet the people that came up with this tier list think they are so bad ass.  |
ChosenWarrior
| | #13 posted March 19, 2008 at 12:57pm (EDT) |
It's mostly used for tournaments for cash prizes and stuff like that |
Sartori
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| | #14 posted March 19, 2008 at 12:58pm (EDT) |
ChosenWarrior wrote:
> It's mostly used for tournaments for cash prizes and stuff like that
What? What do you mean? The list doesn't have any actual application... |
ChosenWarrior
| | #15 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:02pm (EDT) |
The top tiered fighters are usually the ones entered in tourneys, the list is also a measure of how much a character is used in such tourneys |
Sartori
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| | #16 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:03pm (EDT) |
ChosenWarrior wrote:
> The top tiered fighters are usually the ones entered in tourneys,
> the list is also a measure of how much a character is used in such
> tourneys
1. Yes
2. That is _not_ what the list is for. |
ChosenWarrior
| | #17 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:07pm (EDT) |
I know, but you can look at it that way as well, the higher up on the list the more likely they will be used in a tournament |
Sartori
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| | #18 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:14pm (EDT) |
I suppose.
Didn't really mean to argue. |
ChosenWarrior
| | #19 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:20pm (EDT) |
Now worries, actually i dont remember seeing anyone win a tournament on videos who werent on the top 4...i actually pay alittle attention to the tier list as i usually pick my main fighter out of my favorites who are highest on that list as that would be the character i would try to master first, thats why im just curious to see the SSBB list |
Sartori
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| | #20 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:28pm (EDT) |
People win outside of the top 4 often.
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ChosenWarrior
| | #21 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:32pm (EDT) |
Could be, i only watched youtube videos, i saw Fox the most, that's for sure, followed by Sheik |
Organization_XIII
| | #22 posted March 19, 2008 at 1:56pm (EDT) |
This is a tad off topic, but does anybody know if EGM reviewed Brawl yet? I don't have a sub to EGM, and I'm writing a review (on this site) for Brawl. In my reviews, I post some other scores the game(s) have gotten, and was wondering if anybody could help me out? Thanks. |
ChosenWarrior
| | #23 posted March 19, 2008 at 2:01pm (EDT) |
Yeah, i actually got a free sub. from alpha's link a couple months ago and got the 1st issue in April, they said they will review Brawl in the May issue |
Windmill
| | #24 posted March 19, 2008 at 3:31pm (EDT) |
Surely Pit will be high up on this thing, his flying abilities ROCK.
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ChosenWarrior
| | #25 posted March 19, 2008 at 6:00pm (EDT) |
Most people find him a pain in the ass to play against, so i would guess he would atleast be in the top 10, if not the top 5 |
Sartori
BTRs
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| | #26 posted March 19, 2008 at 7:06pm (EDT) |
I really despise Pit. |
Guru
| | #27 posted March 19, 2008 at 8:48pm (EDT) |
Pit is fun to play as. Not the most offensive-oriented character, but still pretty good. :) |
Organization_XIII
| | #28 posted March 19, 2008 at 8:56pm (EDT) |
Pit takes no skill to use.
You just annoy the opponent until he throws the controller and says, "Fudge this crap! I'm doing something else!" |
RDTZ
| | #29 posted March 19, 2008 at 9:22pm (EDT) |
Hey, whatever works, right?
"My cock senses are tingling!"
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Windmill
| #30 posted March 20, 2008 at 1:05am (EDT)
edited March 20, 2008 at 1:06am (EDT) |
Pit lacks attacks though.
Like his shield. WTFudge. I'd take an attack over that shield any day.
But he's pretty good for comboing if you connect the first strike, and his flight is amazing. I don't see, unless you're knocked full speed off the stage, how one could die. Its also VERY useful for jumping away from attacks.
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MyAlterEgo
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| | #31 posted March 20, 2008 at 1:08am (EDT) |
What I hate about Pit, as well as Meta Knight, is that they don't have any "finishing" A-button moves. It sucks. 
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Windmill
| | #32 posted March 20, 2008 at 2:37am (EDT) |
I dunno I can generally kick someone off at 120-150 damage easy with him.
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ChosenWarrior
| | #33 posted March 20, 2008 at 1:51pm (EDT) |
Well everyone can, but the question is can he knock them out around 70-100 that really matters |
MyAlterEgo
(frozen)
| | #34 posted March 20, 2008 at 1:59pm (EDT) |
Exactly what I'm saying, ChosenWarrior. 
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ChosenWarrior
| | #35 posted March 20, 2008 at 2:07pm (EDT) |
Haha, yeah, the reason why i like Marth and Roy back in Melee is that they both can KO easily against 60ish characters with a simple side A smash if it hits the sweet spot, since i havent played Brawl yet and all i have to go on are videos i cant say who is good at KOing at low levels |
Guru
| | #36 posted March 20, 2008 at 3:20pm (EDT) |
MyAlterEgo wrote:
> What I hate about Pit, as well as Meta Knight, is that they don't
> have any "finishing" A-button moves. It sucks.
>
His Smash Attacks are good final strikes. Kinda lame to say he takes no skill to use... |
Guru
| | #37 posted March 20, 2008 at 3:21pm (EDT) |
ChosenWarrior wrote:
> Well everyone can, but the question is can he knock them out around
> 70-100 that really matters
He's not Bowser/Ike.... That's why he's a light-mid weight character. lol |
Sartori
BTRs
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| | #38 posted March 20, 2008 at 3:33pm (EDT) |
Guru wrote:
> MyAlterEgo wrote:
>> What I hate about Pit, as well as Meta Knight, is that they don't
>> have any "finishing" A-button moves. It sucks.
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> His Smash Attacks are good final strikes. Kinda lame to say he takes
> no skill to use...
Pretty bad strategy to rely on final smash at all...
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ChosenWarrior
| | #39 posted March 20, 2008 at 3:35pm (EDT) |
Pikachu from Melee could get a KO at 70-100 with one of his smashes, and he's pretty light |
Guru
| | #40 posted March 20, 2008 at 3:36pm (EDT) |
Sartori wrote:
> Guru wrote:
>> MyAlterEgo wrote:
> |>> What I hate about Pit, as well as Meta Knight, is that they don't
> |>> have any "finishing" A-button moves. It sucks.
> |>>
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>> His Smash Attacks are good final strikes. Kinda lame to say he
> takes
>> no skill to use...
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>
> Pretty bad strategy to rely on final smash at all...
>
Smash attacks, not Final Smash. |
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