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SmarmySir
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#1 posted June 24, 2008 at 11:24pm (EST)
edited June 25, 2008 at 12:07am (EST)  

 

So, a NGD is coming up soon for me. I'm selling my Strat (realized that single coil pickups are not for me... missed my humbucker-equipped guitar), and with the money, I'm getting an Agile Les Paul clone. I've narrowed it down to these two:

http://www.rondomusic.com/al-20002ts.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000blkgd.html

I'm definitely leaning towards the sunburst one, but I haven't decided for sure. What do you guys think?

If the pickups aren't up to snuff, I'll be replacing them with a pair of GFS Vintage '59's (http://store.guitarfetish.com/v59niclalpah.html).
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Richie
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#2 posted June 25, 2008 at 1:37am (EST)  

I've never been a big fan of gold hardware (gold top finish is another matter  * wink * ), so I'd suggest
the tobacco sunburst (they call it "2-tone" sunburst or whatever, but the classic name is tobacco sunburst

Actually, personally, I'd go with one of these (but it's just personal preference):
http://www.rondomusic.com/product1772.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000blackcherryflm.htm...

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000te.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000blueflame.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000goldhum.html

But really, this (or at least a guitar with this color scheme) will likely be my next guitar:

http://www.rondomusic.com/al2000slvr.html

LOVE the "black and white" look of the silverburst.  * grin *


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Richie
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#3 posted June 25, 2008 at 1:38am (EST)  

Oh yeah, but definitely a good call on going with GFS pickups.  * yes *

I plan to replace the pickups on my washburn guitar to some Fat Pats by GFS after I get the fret work done.



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SmarmySir
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#4 posted June 25, 2008 at 12:55pm (EST)  

I'm definitely going with the tobacco burst. I like the black cherry colors, but that color looks like the typical Epiphone SG/LP color that a ton of people have. I don't really like any of the flamed ones too much. I just like my guitars to look classic I guess, and I'm a sucker for more natural looking finishes (the brown part of the burst looks preeeeetty). I've never liked gold tops too much, and the silver burst just doesn't float my fancy, either. I'm too picky.
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Noltillian


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#5 posted June 26, 2008 at 12:37am (EST)  

I think you made a good choice and I like Richie's pick too. Although he doesn't know it, Richie convinced me to pick up a Xaviere guitar about a month ago. It was well worth the cheap price and will make an excellent back-up guitar for me should I ever start gigging again.

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Richie
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#6 posted June 26, 2008 at 1:03am (EST)  

 * grin *

I love my Xaviere (blemishes and all  * raspberry * ).



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Noltillian


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#7 posted June 26, 2008 at 1:09am (EST)  

Supposedly they are blemished but I couldn't find anything wrong with mine.

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Richie
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#8 posted June 26, 2008 at 1:57am (EST)  

Yeah, you really gotta look close. That's one thing I love about it. :)


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SmarmySir
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#9 posted June 26, 2008 at 11:13am (EST)  

New Xavieres will be up this evening on Guitarfetish.com. That's why I haven't taken the plunge with the Agile yet... I want to see what Jay at GF has to offer.
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Richie
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#10 posted June 26, 2008 at 1:54pm (EST)  

I'm probably gonna wish that I held off on my purchase last month or that I had more money right now for another purchase.  * raspberry *


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Richie
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#11 posted June 26, 2008 at 1:54pm (EST)  

I know the asses on the site have been saying it for awhile now, but man....I need a fudging job! lol


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SmarmySir
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#12 posted June 26, 2008 at 2:28pm (EST)  

Jobs certainly help.

I've seen a few pics of the new Xaviere thinline telecasters over at the harmony-central forums, and I think fap is a good word to describe them.

They're only $169, too.
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SmarmySir
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#13 posted June 26, 2008 at 8:18pm (EST)  

The new Xaviere's are up!

http://store.guitarfetish.com/xaviereguitars.html
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Richie
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#14 posted June 26, 2008 at 10:06pm (EST)  

I'll take one of each please.  * raspberry *


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SmarmySir
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#15 posted June 26, 2008 at 10:37pm (EST)  

DITTO!
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Richie
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#16 posted June 26, 2008 at 10:51pm (EST)  

I think the next guitar I get might be one of those tele clones.

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SmarmySir
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#17 posted June 26, 2008 at 11:12pm (EST)  

Yes, plz.

This one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvvicrmafi1.html

or this one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvsoashtrman.html

or even this one (I kind of want a guitar with P90's): http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvmoyewigfsa1.html
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Richie
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#18 posted June 27, 2008 at 1:19am (EST)  

I wish they had the pickguard style and color scheme of the second one in a semi hollow body like the first one.



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SmarmySir
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#19 posted June 27, 2008 at 6:40am (EST)  

I do too. I would get the semi-hollow and modify it to fit P90's. Gah.
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Richie
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#20 posted June 27, 2008 at 8:29pm (EST)  

What kind of sound do P90s have? I've pretty much only played on humbucker equipped guitars and
my cheapy strat clone.



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SmarmySir
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#21 posted June 27, 2008 at 9:44pm (EST)  

They're technically single coils, but dirtier, louder, and etc. Go to youtube and do a search on P90 equipped guitars to see how they sound. On second thought, here's a decent one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJ1SKPlqfQ0

It's actually the same model guitar I posted above with P90's, just a different color.
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#22 posted June 27, 2008 at 11:32pm (EST)  

I hate you guys. You make me want to spend too much money.  * winking raspberry *

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Richie
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#23 posted June 28, 2008 at 1:05am (EST)  

 * laughing out loud *

There are MUCH worse things to spend money on.  * wink *




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SmarmySir
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#24 posted June 28, 2008 at 12:26pm (EST)  

Indeed. I've definitely decided on one of the thinline Tele copies. Probably yellow.
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SmarmySir
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#25 posted July 3, 2008 at 10:54pm (EST)  

Just bought this guitar:
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-5020...

The wait for it to get here will be absolute torture. I plan on swapping out the white pickguard for a black one, and get a P90 for the neck position. ME WANT NOAW!
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Richie
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#26 posted July 3, 2008 at 11:27pm (EST)  

Nice. Let me know how it sounds/plays.  * yes *



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Richie
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#27 posted July 16, 2008 at 6:58pm (EST)  

Sooooo....?



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SmarmySir
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#28 posted July 18, 2008 at 9:47pm (EST)  

Oh, haha.

It came a week ago. It's ok. I'm not as hot on the single coils as I thought I would be. Plus, the neck has way too much finish on it and my fingers don't want to slide very easily. Sounds great for wat it is though. I'm sending it back tomorrow and then getting this:

http://www.rondomusic.com/product1063.html

If that one doesn't work out I'll send it back and get a Agile AL-2000 Les Paul copy and be done with all this mess.
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Richie
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#29 posted July 18, 2008 at 11:58pm (EST)  

I sort of did the opposite. I originally ordered an SX gold top w/a set neck from Rondo, but a single fret (somewhere around the 16th fret or so)
was filed funky and so buzzed out that note completely. Obviously not a huge deal, but I'm finally being more assertive (as opposed to the
old me that would have settled), so I sent it back hoping for an exchange. They were sold out though, so they just sent a refund.  * frown *

Ended up needing that money for groceries or bills at the time anyway, so it was no big deal, really. But the next month I bought
my Xaviere guitar. Overall, I'm digging it, but the fretboard seems kind of sticky or gritty. It's kind of hard to bend strings.

I keep meaning to email the guy who runs things over there at guitar fetish about it to see what he has to say...I just don't wanna
go through the hassle of an other exchange thing...and I'm not much of a lead player, so it's really not a big deal to me.

Anyway, hope the new guitar works out better for you.  * yes *


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SaintJimmy
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#30 posted July 19, 2008 at 1:52am (EST)  

I might be getting a drum set (finally!) Tuesday. There's a guy in a town about 45 minutes away selling one on Craigslist. He's coming to town so I can look at it, but someone else has first dibs. He's selling it for $80 (so it's probably crap, but I need whatever I can get) and it's got all the basics except a ride. My dad doesn't know I'm buying it...
SmarmySir
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#31 posted July 21, 2008 at 1:23pm (EST)  

Ok, so I'm weird. I just threw all previous guitar plans out the window and... I just bought a guitar from Ebay. I'm just going back to my roots - a nice looking guitar that has humbuckers and can do shredding, blues, whatever. Plus, it's a trusted name (Ibanez). Finally, as a bonus, the guitar is neck-thru, which is something I've alway wanted. It also has a beautiful satin finish over the natural wood, which is also something I'm a sucker for. Pics:

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Richie
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#32 posted July 21, 2008 at 2:23pm (EST)  

Yeah, my Xaviere guitar has a set neck which was one of the things that impressed me considering the price.

Anyway, that's a nice looking guitar. Looks like it has some nice jumbo frets too. Ever since I played on a guitar
with jumbo frets, playing a guitar with smaller frets just feels like so much more work to me.  * raspberry *



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SmarmySir
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#33 posted July 21, 2008 at 2:54pm (EST)  

Richie, my friend, it's more than a set neck... it's a neck-thru. Which means the piece of wood that the neck is a part of runs completely through the center of the guitar. Here's a better representation of neck-thru:
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Richie
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#34 posted July 21, 2008 at 4:19pm (EST)  

Interesting. Never seen that before. Whenever I heard neck-through, I just assumed it was another way of saying set neck.

Any advantages of neck through design? I've heard the main advantage of set neck over bolt on is better sustain.

Just googled it. Guess it just comes down to preference, really, between bolt on, set or neck thru. They all seem to have
their advantages and disadvantages.

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SmarmySir
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#35 posted July 22, 2008 at 12:53am (EST)
edited July 22, 2008 at 12:53am (EST)  

Eh, I guess I just dig the concept and the looks of it really... though I'm sure it helps with tone and sustain and everything. I'm freaking pumped about this guitar. Also, the good news? I won't be tempted to return it after a while because I got it off ebay, so I'm sticking with it!  * yes *
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SmarmySir
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#36 posted July 22, 2008 at 10:12pm (EST)  

Ok, so after some research, maybe it's not neck-thru after all. It's set neck, which is fine with me anyway. Looks pretty darn convincing, though!
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SmarmySir
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#37 posted July 25, 2008 at 11:45am (EST)  

Well, it came today. IT'S OH SO VERY NICE! The wood and finish are beautiful, the action is nice and low, the neck has a thin profile, yet has a wide fretboard, so it's supremely playable. I'm happy with my choice.
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Richie
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#38 posted July 25, 2008 at 1:21pm (EST)  

 * yes *

Are the frets jumbo like it looked like in the pics?



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SmarmySir
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#39 posted July 25, 2008 at 8:20pm (EST)  

Yeah, the frets are pretty jumbo. I am pleased.
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Richie
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#40 posted July 25, 2008 at 9:41pm (EST)  

Nice

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