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Danger's Xbox 360/Xbox Live Forum [by Nick]

Topic: Ninja Gaiden II

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Nick

#1 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:01pm (EDT)

Yeah, it gets its own topic, because its sweet.

Seriously though, as much as I love this game, I am terrible at it. I'm fighting Genshin, and I can beat him, but not without using like all my healing herbs and a resurrection scroll, so I keep quitting because I feel like I shouldn't be wasting all that stuff on the second boss. To make matters worse, I'm only playing on Acolyte difficulty. Whats the deal? Does he have some sort of pattern that I'm missing or something.

Cyco2oo4

#2 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:03pm (EDT)

I remember in the original NG for Xbox, the gameplay was alot of blocking, and then counterattacking. Judging from the demo, though, it seems that NG2 isn't like that. I found myself quickly ripping through enemies, barely blocking at all, and getting 60-80+ hit combos.

Maybe for the bosses, though, blocking is more required. I dunno, all I know is that I want the game!

Nick

#3 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:05pm (EDT)

I still block a lot, especially when I'm surrounded. It seems like there is more focus on offense in this one though since your health regenerates a bit after fights.

Jin

#4 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:17pm (EDT)

I ordered this game but I had it shipped home, so I can't play it until i'm done with school. I played the demo though and it was pretty damn fun.

Narclepto99

#5 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:22pm (EDT)

Yeah, now you feel my Rock Band pain Nick! I own hard at this game. I'm not at the second boss yet but it comes down to doing the block roll thing to give yourself room, a lot. And try to use jumping attacks as (or so it seems) they are less likely to be blocked. I'll have more specific info when i get to Genshin.

Nick

#6 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:26pm (EDT)

Yeah dude, I'm all about jump attacks, but this Genshin dude won't have it. The second you jump he's in the air to knock you back down.

I just beat it, I still ended up using a few of my herbs, but I managed to keep my res scroll.

SmarmySir
Run, Robbit, run!

#7 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:43pm (EDT)

I tore through the demo with 0 effort. Is the retail version just like it? Or is the demo toned down for the masses?
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Narclepto99

#8 posted June 9, 2008 at 11:45pm (EDT)

The actual game is harder, as long as you dont play on the easiest difficulty, which is what the demo forces you to do. So far Id say its about its slightly easier than the first because of the health regeneration.

Nick

#9 posted June 10, 2008 at 12:13am (EDT)

They handled the health regeneration quite well though, making it so it doesn't regen all the way if you are really getting your ass kicked in a fight. Keeps the difficulty level kind of high.

Narclepto99

#10 posted June 10, 2008 at 1:01am (EDT)

True but relatively speaking its easier since there wasnt any regen at all in the first one.

SmarmySir
Run, Robbit, run!

#11 posted June 10, 2008 at 11:35am (EDT)

But still, the max amount of healing herbs and grains you can carry is three. In the first one, you could carry nine of each kind of healing elixir.
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Narclepto99

#12 posted June 10, 2008 at 11:52am (EDT)

We're going to end up going in circles since this is a subjective thing...but...you dot need 9 of each when your health regenerates, plus you can completely refill it at each save point which there seems to be way more of.

knighthawk
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#13 posted June 10, 2008 at 1:58pm (EDT)

save points were a dog in the first one. i remember backtracking half the map just to get to some...

SmarmySir
Run, Robbit, run!

#14 posted June 10, 2008 at 2:16pm (EDT)

You can only heal once at each save point.

And no dur you don't need as many healing items because there are more other opportunities to heal... that's why it balances out.
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#15 posted June 10, 2008 at 11:08pm (EDT)

The bottom line is that the healing system/abundance of items/difficulty of enemies all tie in together really well.

This game isn't as difficult as the 1st one, but it's still really challenging. Overall, they did some great improvements on the 1st one. However, that fudging camera still drives me nuts. I wish they would have done something similar to camera system in God of War. It's like a 1/2 fixed 1/2 following camera. That's really my only complaint. The combo system is done beautifully, graphics look amazing, and overall the game is just easier and more fun to play.

Nick

#16 posted June 10, 2008 at 11:09pm (EDT)

That pretty much sums it up perfectly.

SmarmySir
Run, Robbit, run!

#17 posted June 11, 2008 at 12:14am (EDT)

The camera seems more sporadic and janky this time around than in the first one, though.
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AlphakirA

#18 posted June 11, 2008 at 4:39am (EDT)

I keep getting text messages from a friend about this game all day long. All I keep hearing is "the camera fudging suck!", "you can't counter a grab, what type of crap is that?" and numerous other "they cheese" like comments. Is it really that 'meh'? Should I not bother even renting this for a while? I still haven't played the first, but playing anything last gen is so damn hard when you have the three next gen ones sitting on the shelf, especially without ever touching two of them. Suggestions?

kzn

#19 posted June 11, 2008 at 5:16am (EDT)

The last thing you want to do is listen to your friend.

AlphakirA

#20 posted June 11, 2008 at 5:35am (EDT)

Well, for one, he's better at games than me, and yet he's having a tough time at parts. And two, he'll dog about a game and how much the A.I. cheeses, then when he beats it says how amazing it is/was. lol, so unless I wait a few weeks til he beats it, I have to ask my imaginary friends.

kzn

#21 posted June 11, 2008 at 5:38am (EDT)

This is my caring face.

AlphakirA

#22 posted June 11, 2008 at 5:40am (EDT)

The balls in your sig?

kzn

#23 posted June 11, 2008 at 6:18am (EDT)

If you want it to.

MolestoTheClown

#24 posted June 11, 2008 at 11:29am (EDT)

AlphakirA wrote:
> I keep getting text messages from a friend about this game all day
> long. All I keep hearing is "the camera fudging suck!", "you can't
> counter a grab, what type of crap is that?" and numerous other "they
> cheese" like comments. Is it really that 'meh'? Should I not bother
> even renting this for a while? I still haven't played the first, but
> playing anything last gen is so damn hard when you have the three
> next gen ones sitting on the shelf, especially without ever touching
> two of them. Suggestions?
>

Are you talking about Rob? That sounds like something his dog ass would complain about. Just tell him "stop whining" or send him a picture of the baby.

Nick

#25 posted June 11, 2008 at 12:11pm (EDT)

The game is challenging, no doubt, but I don't really think its cheap.

You can't counter grabs, true, but when you get grabbed if you're quick enough you can jam on any button and get out of it pretty quickly before taking any damage.

Yeah, the camera does suck, but thats the only thing I'd knock it for.

SmarmySir
Run, Robbit, run!

#26 posted June 11, 2008 at 12:15pm (EDT)
edited June 11, 2008 at 12:16pm (EDT)

Ninja Gaiden is one of those games that's hard because you suck, not because it's cheap.
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#27 posted June 11, 2008 at 12:17pm (EDT)

So true, so true.

LiL_Ramsey
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#28 posted June 11, 2008 at 12:37pm (EDT)

In my experience, I suck because of its cheapness.

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AlphakirA

#29 posted June 11, 2008 at 5:58pm (EDT)

MolestoTheClown wrote:
> AlphakirA wrote:
>> I keep getting text messages from a friend about this game all
> day
>> long. All I keep hearing is "the camera fudging suck!", "you can't
>> counter a grab, what type of crap is that?" and numerous other
> "they
>> cheese" like comments. Is it really that 'meh'? Should I not bother
>> even renting this for a while? I still haven't played the first,
> but
>> playing anything last gen is so damn hard when you have the three
>> next gen ones sitting on the shelf, especially without ever touching
>> two of them. Suggestions?
>>
>
> Are you talking about Rob? That sounds like something his dog ass
> would complain about. Just tell him "stop whining" or send him a
> picture of the baby.
>
>

Yeah

Typically his messages are 3 word answers. Once he picked up DMC4, then NG2, that's all I've been hearing

TahoeMax

#30 posted June 11, 2008 at 6:45pm (EDT)

I finished the game on warrior a few days ago. Continued probably 150 times (with an achievement for my lameness to boot!). I'd say 125 of those deaths were on bosses, most of which are pretty much tests of precision. Until you figure out the attack patterns, it will seem cheap...absolutely...because without perfect maneuvers you'll get annihilated in a couple of attacks. It's actually more of a throwback to the NES days. Tons of games were like this back then, but they just don't make 'em like that anymore, other than NG and a handful of others.

So yeah...it's brutally hard and frustrating, but I guess it's not really cheap, save for a handful of times you get instantly jumped as you're running around a corner.

LiL_Ramsey
Rock on Megaman!

#31 posted June 11, 2008 at 8:34pm (EDT)

I have nothing to add except that Nick is gay.